If I meant to call you an avid supporter of Hasina I would not have hesitated to say so.
You are absolutely right in saying we should not blame other countries for own faults.
I blame India and Hasina for the border killings. And I blame India because it is the same as blaming Hasina.
Her supporters cannot bear cristicsm of India.
When do you plan on holding our elected government accountable for the border killings?
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@...> wrote:
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> "You are on record as a reluctant supporter of Hasina. You are not a free man."
> Reluctant supporter? You probably meant to say "an avid supporter", I suppose? No, Sir, I am neither! I would equally forceful against Hasina government.
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> You make some good points. However, blaming other countries for not accepting our people is not right. We have failed these people, not Indians or other pygmies are at fault. We need to give these real education and make them ready to contribute to our society than encouraging them to venture around beyond our boundary. There, they will be treated as misskins and commodities. What good that would do to us?
> -SD
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> "All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
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>
> ________________________________
> From: ezajur Ezajur@...
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:39 AM
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Border killing goes unabated as Delhi's 'no-fire order' falls on deaf ears
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> Bangladesh's sovereignty has always been at risk since 1971 - economically and culturally and socially, under every dictator and under every elected government. It is vulnerable to many organisations and countries â€" not just India. You know it well. So don't get hypersensitive just because Hasina is in power and someone exaggerates about Sikkim. You will find I have never talked about India annexing Bangladesh. It does not need to annexe a problematic nation that is always led by behayas. You know it.
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> Do you think American border guards should shoot to kill when they see women and children crossing over from Mexico? If they did that as a matter of policy you would be the first to condemn the US. There are many more examples like this. You know it.
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> Who asked for garlands? Can we not ask for temporary arrest? Can we not ask for the humane treatment of children and people who are not hardened criminals?
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> In the last month a five year old Indian child was released from jail. He was caught on the Bangladesh side of our border with West Bengal. He was kept in a Bangladeshi jail for one year. We are monsters. But who cares!
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> I do mind our citizens illegally crossing the border. And millions of our people flee our country â€" to all parts of the globe, not just to India. Many things are definitely not right with our politicians. And I do not suggest that our politicians should take a hike… I insist that they must take a hike.
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> You can find flaw in my arguments â€" you are most welcome to try. There is no reason why I cannot be wrong about many things. But you have no evidence that I apply one standard to AL and another to BNP, or one standard to India and another to Bangladesh.
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> Because applying values equally and avoiding hypocrisy are the two mountains upon which I rest my little pen. Our country needs many men, far better than me, to climb and rest upon these mountains.
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> You are on record as a reluctant supporter of Hasina. You are not a free man.
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> Free yourself of Hasina. Then you can help to free your country. You will not be alone.
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> Students at Jahangirnagar University went on hunger strike to protest violence on campus committed by Chatra League, the cadres of our elected governmnet. Hasina did nothing until students visited her. And she told them she would mention it to the Zillur Rahman, Chancellor of the University.
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> And our AL buddijibis keep quiet! Because they are 'pragmatic' avbout violence and murder? Because somehow Mujib's murder is relevant to everything?
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> Hey President! Prime Minister! Blind AL supporters :
> F&&& YOU TOO!!
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> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@ wrote:
> >
> > When people like you talking about Bangladeshi sovereignty being at risk and India would be annexing us very soon like Sikkim,  you do not mind our citizens crossing over the border and raise our flag across the border? How that becomes so palatable for you? Good for goose but not for gander?ÂÂ
> > If an Indian soldier violates our border and shoot our citizens inside our border, that is a different matter. Why do you think Indians would welcome you with a garland? Would you tolerate Indians crossing the border and settling inside our country? I think not. Have one standard brother! If we are incapable of managing our own country and our people do not want to stay with us, then something not right with our politicians and their blame games. They should take responsibility of our citizens or take a hike! I do not want to hear all these empty BS from people like you.
> > -SD
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> > "All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: ezajur Ezajur@
> > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 6:08 AM
> > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Border killing goes unabated as Delhi's 'no-fire order' falls on deaf ears
> >
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> > The very definiition of a bind AL supporter is someone who is not outraged when armed soldiers of another country shoot dead an unarmed citizen of Bangladesh.
> > And it doesn't matter if the victim is a 16 year old child or a 60 year old cattle trader or shot at point black or shot in the back or left to die or left hanging on barbed wire.
> > And it doesn't matter if the AL government fails to protect its citizens at the border or to be taken seriously in Delhi.
> > It only matters when AL leaders are killed. India doesn't have to give a damn because she has a lot of behayas speaking up for her in Dhaka.
> > Ignorant, shameless, lying hypocrites.ÂÂ
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> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Is India a visa free country? Should not it have the right to protect its border from intruders and smugglers? Or. we should think India as our motherland and we should be able to trespass its border whenever we wish. Can we do that to Burma or other foreign countries? Time to wake up brother. This is not pre 1947. We wanted to separate and have our own PAK paradise. But we failed! Isn't it?
> > >
> > > How many people did we kill ourselves since 1947 to make our country purer than pure? Now, our own people would like venture around than staying home?
> > > -SD
> > >
> > > ÂÂÂ
> > > "All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Isha Khan bdmailer@
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2012 4:29 AM
> > > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Border killing goes unabated as Delhi's 'no-fire order' falls on deaf ears
> > >
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> > > BSF ears wide shut
> > >
> > > Border killing goes unabated as Delhi's 'no-fire order' falls on deaf ears
> > >
> > >
> > > http://sonarbangladesh.com/blog/post/108151
> > >
> > > Indian Border Security Force has killed two Bangladeshis and injured 10 others on average per month this year despite repeated pledges by their home minister not to open fire along the border.â€Å"Under no circumstances would the Indian border security force fire upon anyone trying to cross into India from Bangladesh,� Indian Home Minister P Chidambaram said on July 30 last year during his visit to Dhaka.
> > >
> > > "The message has gone down to the last jawan," he added.But after 25 days of his directive, BSF opened fire in Kolaroa upazila of Satkhira on August 25 injuring a Bangladeshi.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://amardeshonline.com/pages/details/2012/05/06/143740
> > >
> > > The brutal killings along the border had declined only for a few months after Chidambaram's visit to Dhaka as the BSF shot dead seven Bangladeshis between August and December last year, according to data of Odhikar, a rights body.
> > >
> > > The BSF has killed 10 Bangladeshis and injured 43 others in the last four months.
> > >
> > > The BSF chief, though, in an interview with BBC on January 7 said it is not possible for them to stop firing along the border. His statement showed the BSF's lack of willingness in lowering the number of border killings to zero.
> > >
> > > Home Minister Shahara Khatun had toured India in February. During her trip, her counterpart P Chidambaram renewed his pledge. "We have reiterated that we don't intend to continue firing and killing along the border.�
> > > â€Å"We have identified 23 vulnerable border outposts. The two countries will strengthen the presence of the border guards at those points and undertake joint consultations," he added.
> > >
> > > The BSF is using lethal weapons instead of rubber bullets at many of the 23 vulnerable points, said sources at Border Guard Bangladesh (BGB).â€Å"The BSF is using rubber bullets only at some points and we cannot disclose those due to strategic reasons,� Maj Gen Anwar Hossain, director general of BGB, told The Daily Star.If the Indian border guards introduce rubber bullets at all the vulnerable areas, the killing of Bangladeshis will decline to a great extent, he said.
> > >
> > > Bangladeshi cattle traders and agricultural workers are the major victims to the BSF shooting as they work at night in the fields near the border, he pointed out.â€Å"We have initiated programmes to sensitise the vulnerable groups on the issue with the help of local elderly people, public representatives and Imams of mosques,� said Anwar.â€Å"We have advised the local cattle traders not to cross into India for fetching cattle risking their lives. Rather they should ask the Indian traders to send those to Bangladesh,� he maintained.
> > >
> > > The agricultural workers have been advised to inform the BGB personnel before going to work in bordering fields at night. The BGB members will inform the BSF about this in advance to ensure they do not open fire on the workers taking them for smugglers.These intensive awareness programmes have been very effective in reducing border killings by the BSF, said the BGB chief.
> > >
> > > The BSF in March proposed imposing curfews along the border at night, but the BGB disagreed. â€Å"Imposing curfews is only a temporary solution. It will not solve the problem at all, rather will undermine people's constitutional right to movement," he added.
> > >
> > > Contacted, State Minister for Home Shamsul Hoque Tuku said, â€Å"Killing along the border is an old issue and I don't claim that such homicides have stopped.â€�â€Å"If we look at the statistics of border killings since our independence, we will notice a declining trend,� he added.He expressed satisfaction saying that the country for the first time has been able to convince India that killing on the border is inhuman.
> > >
> > > According to statistics of Odhikar, the border killings have declined over the last few years.The BSF has killed 31 Bangladeshis last year, 74 in 2010 and 96 in 2009.
> > >
> > > http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=232928
> > >
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