I am glad that Mr. Q. A. Rahman realized that his statements could be interpreted the way I did, even though he called my comments "creative interpretation", and asked the question "where did I say such a thing?" In any case, I have made a little grammar correction to my sentence.
Aside from that, I do not wish to say much, as there is no point in wasting too much time arguing with people who are not very logical.
However, let me say that I do not agree with Mr. Rahman's comment on Dr. Kamal Das. I think Dr. Das is a much learned person who talks rationally. His expressions occasionally insult people more that what I would consider appropriate, but that is not reason enough to doubt is erudition. I actually agree with his advice to Mr. Rahman, "To get a proper 'education', you might need to unlearn most of what you learned before."
I wish Mr. Rahman all the best too.
Sukhamaya Bain
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From: qar <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] The allegation of opposition to the establishment of Dhaka University
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] The allegation of opposition to the establishment of Dhaka University
Now let me address a side point made by Q. A. Rahman. His point was that Pakistan was needed for breaking the Hindu domination in East Bengal. His argument was utterly foolish and hateful when he was indifferent to the fact of the migration of Hindus due to discrimination, hatred and barbaric atrocities in their home of centuries.
Member Bain,
You may want to read my post before you like to reply. It seems you are trying to have a "Creative interpretation" of what I said. Kindly READ the post first. On the discussion starting with Dhaka University, I said our forefathers felt Pakistan was needed. I was NOT there, so it is impossible to "Support" or "Oppose" such a concept.
As I said, I ONLY shared an observation. The Pakistan movement was popular and had enough support to get attention from the policy makers. It did not work out for us and looking as an outsider still not working for most Pakistanis either. But that is HISTORY!!
Discrimination has been an unfortunate part of our collective history and Hindus and Muslims have done some of it in the past. I never even tried to deny reality but if you ever try to sell me that, ONLY Hindus were discriminated and Muslims were only torturing them, I have to say it is not an honest narrative.
He was essentially saying that it was OK to displace the Hindus for giving the Muslims some privilege.
>>>>>>> Where did I say such a thing??
If you keep Assuming the worst things in others, maybe it is time for you to look in the mirror. :-)
Dr. Kamal Das has also made some comments. He reasoned that Muslims were not up to education, and were not expected to have a large share of teachers and students at Dhaka University
>>>>>>> not exactly an example of a well educated person, he should be the last one talking about education to anyone. I would advise people like Mr. Rahman to wake up for progress for all people, especially for the Muslims. Sprouting madrasahs in Bangladesh like wild mushrooms in dirty soil, and promoting hateful religious stupidity will not help the Muslims; real education in humanities, science and technology will.
>>>>>>>> My "Request" to you would be to read the posts before you reply. I did not promote "Sprouting" madrassas RATHER I spoke about modernizing/improving them. Give them authentic quality education so people who come out of it will promote peace and be more tolerant. I have a feeling despite what you wrote here, you would not mind promoting tolerance and peace in BD. The only difference with our views is I do not see madrassahs as "wild mushrooms in dirty soil, and promoting hateful religious stupidity" and you do. If I was busy finding faults in others, it is not too difficult to have very long posts about How Muslims and Bhuddists were abused by Hindus over the centuries. But these sort of things don't bring people closer. I make a humble effort to promote more understanding about my faith and try to support "Common grounds" among all of us.
Science and technology have their places and religion have it's own space. In my world they compliment each others and there is no conflict.
Wish you have a nice day.
Shalom!!
-----Original Message----- From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 8:28 am Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] The allegation of opposition to the establishment of Dhaka University
Sorry, I do not wish to name that person in the public forums without his permission; and since I am not in touch with him, I can not get the permission readily.
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From: Mahbub Kamal <mahbubk2002@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] The allegation of opposition to the establishment of Dhaka University
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] The allegation of opposition to the establishment of Dhaka University
Just curious - who was the Kalinarayan Scholar you mentioned about? By any chance is his name Sabyasachi Bose? Thank you --- ======================================= On Sun, 5/27/12, Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:
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