| Oh, you are asking me to trust the analysis of another sweet-talker, Bill Clinton; don't you think he will twist his analysis in favor of Democratic Party lines? I have seen his speech. It did not convince me, as I have done the math myself long before his speech; I think in 2011, and I have published it in my blog-site, and circulated the link in the Mukto-mona at that time. These are US government statistical data, available in the web. You can do your own analysis also, as I did. I do not need somebody from Democratic Party or Republican Party to tell me the truth about the economy. It's in the new anyway. If you are a brain-washed Democrat, you will believe in Bill Clinton. Don't ask me to do so. I voted for him twice, but he turned me off at the end of his second term. I do not like him anymore. He does not like Barak Obama also, but has to show his outpouring support just for the sake of his daughter's future in the Democratic Party. She will be the next start in the Party, as both of them will retire. Just remember this point. Jiten Roy __________________________________________________ "Sometimes ignorant people can make a change also, and when they do, it isn't good" – Rush Limbaugh "You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
--Abraham Lincoln --- On Sun, 9/9/12, Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] November Election: Disappointing News for Rush Limbaugh Fans
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, September 9, 2012, 4:32 PM
I will again refer you to DNC. Watch Bill Clinton and think about the numbers he mentioned. Think in terms of private vs privileged business.
Sent from my iPhon | Yes, how can anybody forget that abortion-pill Lady, one of the heroines at the conference. Lincoln's statements can't be any more applicable today than before for educating the politically ignorant people. Democratic Party is a neo-socialist party, which will finally implement European Socialism in the USA under the second term of the current President. The result will be a crippling debt burden from a former communist country (China), from which USA would never be able to come out. This is the best way to curtail American might. This is not an accident; this is the design. Everything is working according to the plan. Current President has the media in his pocket, so he will be able to hide his real intent, while sweet-talking with American People. In fact media will find excuses for all his failures. They are doing so quite effectively now. Even a homeless man knows – why he failed to turn around the economy; he inherited the bad situation left by George Bush, and Republicans are blocking all his good efforts to lift this economy. They know how hard this leader is trying (in between Golf games) to help the poor. They also know why there are no jobs for the 23 million people, and why a record number of people (40 million) people receive food stamps now. It's because the rich people are not creating jobs, and republicans are not cooperating with this leader. They are the "Shrenie-Shatru (Vllain-Class)." They need to be defeated in the interest of the working class. This type of rhetorics is so familiar to the people of China and Russia. What a coincidence that - these two countries are prospering, while America is declining, during this US leader. He is working hard to compensate these countries for the damage done by Regan. In his second term, these two countries will really advance in full gear. That's a victory of the common people. We need more of those common people in the USA also. This country has way too many rich people, and this leader will make sure that the number of rich people come to an equilibrium at least with those two countries. Oh, yes, we have to blame Republicans also even though they have only one branch of the government (Congress) under their control now. They are a 'party-of-no' and they are not allowing our leader to lift the poor in this country. That's why - even though this leader is working so hard to help the poor (in between Golf-games), more and more middle-class are becoming poor. Media will make sure that common people do not remember that all three branches of government were under the control of the Democrats for 2 years, yet nothing was done to confront the joblessness in the country. Who needs jobs, when people have free healthcare and robust food stamp program. In my 30 years of US residency, this is the first time I heard radio advertisements requesting people to seek more food stamps. Media will make sure that people do not know - how important the universal healthcare is under the socialism. Poor people are happy, when they have free health care and a robust food stamp program. They are the constituents of the Democratic Party, and more of them mean bigger constituent. This is a win-win situation. So, happy dream about Capitalism! Jiten Roy __________________________________________________ "Sometimes ignorant people can make a change also, and when they do, it isn't good" – Rush Limbaugh "You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
--Abraham Lincoln
From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] November Election: Disappointing News for Rush Limbaugh Fans
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, September 9, 2012, 1:56 PM
1. Rush Limbaugh made a nasty comment on a recent law graduate (Sandra Fluke?) about rape and apologized. This law graduate gave a speech in DNC in Charlotte. 2. Capitalism is the life blood of the American economy. But it is polluted and needs to be saved from those powerful who are abusing the system. Democrats do not want to destroy the rich. They simply want to eliminate corporate greed. The DNC can be an eye opener. Lincoln quote does not fit here.
"Sometimes ignorant people can make a change also, and when they do, it isn't good" – Rush Limbaugh "You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
--Abraham Lincoln --- On Sat, 9/8/12, Jaffor <jaffor@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Jaffor <jaffor@gmail.com>
Subject: [mukto-mona] November Election: Disappointing News for Rush Limbaugh Fans
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 8, 2012, 11:19 PM
The U.S. presidential election is less than 60 days from now. Both the Tampa and Charlotte conventions are history now. In a new Reuters/Ipsos poll released today (September 8, 2012) Obama-Biden ticket is gaining popularity among American voters despite a disappointing job growth stat published a day ago. A majority of American voters now agree that the job growth will be anemic going forward notwithstanding an economic meltdown brought on by George W. Bush's presidency in 2008. The tax code favored by Republicans since 2000 has helped the greedy rich at the expense of the middle class and poor folks. Americans are now cognizance of this truth and they don't want to put a Wall Street vulture by the name Mitt Romney to the White House. This is the same guy who does not want to pay a fair tax. Some even say he is a tax dodger. In my view, as election time nears, more and more American voters of independent streak would side with the Democrats and will defeat the God-fearing Republicans. In this day and age of fast Internet, it is becoming very difficult to engage in disinformation and misinformation campaign. The fact-Check folks are ever alert now telling the media who is spreading lies and dirt. In 2008, a small but vocal minority of Mukto-Mona forum opposed the candidacy of Obama by falsely thinking that Obama was a closet Muslim. Obama's middle name gave them a jolt. One of the M-M forum-goers even made some boastful comment to the effect that his American friends in New York City have told him that a black man is unelectable for the highest political position. How wrong was he? I am very surprised that these folks are very quiet these days. One of them is however very critical of Michelle Obama. Incidentally, Mrs. Obama is the most radical First Lady this nation had ever witnessed. She took a shovel and helped dig the dirt in the backyard of White House with the help of kids and turned a small plot into a beautiful community garden. All the other first ladies of last thirty years such as Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, Hillary Clinton, Laura Bush, etc. were all dolled up never venturing out in the backyard of White House. But Michelle Obama is a different breed who dance to hear own tune. She is pushing for changing the food habits of grade school students. Her initiatives to feed the students more vegetables and fruits have been hailed by many nutritionists. Thus, she has a vision for America. Contrast this, if you will, with the demeanor of Anne Romney whose hobby is dressage (an equestrian sport of yesteryears). There is no comparison between Michelle Obama and Anne Romney, really. They exist in different realm! One is a working mother and the other is a sheltered rich housewife. One is a visionary like her husband and the other is a dull housewife. I think since it is the season of presidential politics in America, Mukto-Mona forum-goers should discuss endlessly who they support and why they support one candidate over the other. All the poll results thus far indicate that Obama may beat Romney but there is no guarantee. Political wind may change very fast. Debate performance, economic data, etc. may have a profound impact on election results. Therefore, do not pay much attention to what I write here. Give your opinion and make this forum rich with your erudite remarks.
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