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Friday, May 24, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: [reform-bd] HASINA SELLING BANGLADESH. STOP HER!



  And, what happened to that request? Bangladesh declined such a request, simply because of India-phobia. 


>>>>>>>>>>> If you said this about BNP leaders, I would have agreed with you. But BAL leadership do NOT have India-phobia. SOME of their leaders became "Cheer leaders" for India, when India chose to start a new dam on Tipaimukh (Eastern India). They were criticized for it.

I have discussed this before but I'll just highlight our previous discussion. BD rejected India's proposal for several reasons. They are

1) Our roads and bridges are not capable of handling current BD traffic and it will collapse if we allow Indian goods to be transported without upgrading capacity of our highways.

2) People of several Eastern states are rebelling against Delhi and if we allow Delhi to transfer goods, arms etc, they may start attacking us as an accomplice of Delhi dictatorship over them.

3) Our companies enjoys a great marker in seven sisters states and business is gaining popularity very fast. By giving access to competition, we'll destroy our own export potentials in India.

4) India still have discriminatory laws against BD companies seeking to do business in India, until these bigoted laws are removed, it does not make sense to offer Indians red-carpet and destroy our trump card in future negotiations.

5) Both countries did not agree on a "Fair tariff" for transporting goods over BD.

6) Water sharing issues HAVE to be sorted out BEFORE we agree on a structural transit process.

These are major point and minor concerns can be sorted out easily.

Let me say, I strongly feel we have to work with India about this issue and India has to work with us to make our region a prosperous one. Once India can make a shift from "Zero SUM" negotiation to "Win win" negotiation philosophy, people of both country will win.

There was a time when India used to worry about the possibility of the greater Bengal. That's no longer a worry, after the independence of Bangladesh. So, there is no Bangla-phobia in India. What I see is - India is worried about Bangladesh, not afraid of Bangladesh. Worried because, Bangladesh is politically volatile country; it has no direction or ideology.

>>>>>>>> I respectfully disagree. This could have been a valid narrative if we were in the 80's. Today India runs a huge budget deficit and BD became a very lucrative market for India. Bullying Bangladesh will hurt India in a major way. India's economy is quite weak and it is aggressively seeking more share in BD markets. If India pushes too hard against BD, people of both countries will suffer.

As far as politics is concern, despite very weak form of democracy and unstable political condition, BD made consistent progress in economy and human development. In plain English, we are doing everything right except having stable, mature and skilled political leaders.

Despite ups and down common people of our country get along fine with India. We are NOT like Pakistan.

The problem with India is they ignore our friendly spirit among common people. They have imposed many policies they would not dared to try with other nations (Even Pakistan). From sharing our water sources, border issues, descriminatory air wave policies (We get Indian TV but BD TV is not allowed), tariff barriers etc.

Comparing USA and India is not a sound one. US can shift their focus once BD become irrelevant. But we are India's neighbor and it is in India's own interest to see a more stable and prosperous Banglaldesh.

Shalom!  



-----Original Message-----
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 8:31 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: [reform-bd] HASINA SELLING BANGLADESH. STOP HER!
 
QR: "India has been requesting BD government to allow it to transport goods to eastern India."

  And, what happened to that request? Bangladesh declined such a request, simply because of India-phobia. 
 
Transit facility could be a win-win situation for both countries; it would improve friendship between these two countries, which could enhance trust level between these two countries, and put us in a better position while discussing issues relating to the Tipaimukh and Padma Barrages. Also, Bangladesh could earn huge economic benefit from the transit facility. 
 
You said - India has Bangla-phobia. There was a time when India used to worry about the possibility of the greater Bengal. That's no longer a worry, after the independence of Bangladesh. So, there is no Bangla-phobia in India. What I see is - India is worried about Bangladesh, not afraid of Bangladesh. Worried because, Bangladesh is politically volatile country; it has no direction or ideology. Therefore, it is probably in the watch-list of India. Bangladesh was also in the watch-list of USA, until recently. In this condition, no firm political stand on Bangladesh can be formed.
 
Jiten Roy
From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: [reform-bd] HASINA SELLING BANGLADESH. STOP HER!

 
There are times when India getting such contracts make sense. This is one of those cases. India has been requesting BD government to allow it to transport goods to eastern India. It seems this is part of that plan.

As far as India-phobia is concern, it does exist. Similarly Indians also have "Bangla-phobia". It is clearly seen in many of their policies and practices. As I said before these two relatively friendly countries have ONE major issues. Which is how to share water.

Rest can be solved within six months. However India seems forever unwilling to take progressive steps to make it happen. We had high hope with India many times (last time after BAL was elected and government was working with Tista water issue) and India burst our hopes most of those times.

So while we should not be denying the fact that, India-phobia exists. At the same time, we should point out it is failed Indian policies which causes most of such feelings. It is good to remind all of us that, all of India's neighbors share this "Phobia". You can talk to people from Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Pakistan and you will get similar feedback.

As I said, once India realize it has to lead the region than bully the region, we can live harmoniously.


Shalom!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, May 23, 2013 5:24 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: [reform-bd] HASINA SELLING BANGLADESH. STOP HER!

 
I have been scratching my head to find out what's wrong in the tender notice. I could not find anything unusual there. It seems like - India is building a container port in Narayongonj; nothing wrong there. They are seeking tender bids; nothing wrong there either. Then, why is it generating so much anxiety among some people? Then I realized - oh, yes – it must be the ghost of our past Pakistani mindset, the fear of India (India-phobia), still haunting many Bangladeshis. 
 
Let me ask a question - who will build Padma Bridge? Must be built with funds from some foreign governments. Let say it is  Japanese or South Korean. There will be ads for tender bids in their own country to contract out works. It's like when USA does rebuilding works, it hires their own companies to do so. The question is - would that be as worrisome to these people as it is with this particular case? I don't think so; won't you agree? This is what I called India-phobia. It's still at work, especially, among BNP/Jamat supporters. This is why Bangladesh will never be a friendly neighbor of India, ever. 
 
Let me know - where I am wrong here.
 
Jiten Roy


From: Dr. Em Pannah <epannah@yahoo.com>
To: "reform-bd@yahoogroups.com" <reform-bd@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:25 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: [reform-bd] HASINA SELLING BANGLADESH. STOP HER!

 
Dear Readers,
 
Is this a real document or a doctored one? I am worried if it is true but very difficult to believe internet contents as so much of doctored and distorted documents are flooding the Internet now.
 
With best regards,
Em Pannah (a.k.a. Muktijodha Emarat Hossain Pannah)
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