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Tuesday, December 3, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] Sajeeb Wazed Joy: The Dark Life Behind The Scene



"He was told by his team that during the war as many as 3 lakhs (i.e. 300,000) of people died - a wild exaggeration by itself."

No, Mr. Rahman; that number 300, 000 was not a wild exaggeration.  Most counts refer to the casualty of the liberation war as anything between 270,000 to 330,000.

What Shaikh Mujib did was to give a red carpet welcome to Bhutto in April 1974.  The event surely could not go with such ablood bath, be it 3 or 30 lakhs.


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Dear Dr. Rahman,
        
If you read between the lines, you would probably realize that I did not necessarily accept the 3 million deaths. I actually said the country talks about 3 million death yet does not do anything about it. To me, the talked about figures, 3 million, 3 lakh, 50 thousand, all are big enough to be called a genocide; and the country, beginning with Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, was never serious about punishing the most heinous criminal brothers who after all wanted the integrity of the largest 'Muslim country' in the world. Any way we look at this history of Bangladesh, it is disgraceful, an immensely shameful image for Bangladesh.
 
I totally agree with your last paragraph below; and the endemic corruption in the country is also a hugely shameful image for Bangladesh.
 
Thanks,
SuBain
 
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From: ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 2, 2013 6:14 AM

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Sajeeb Wazed Joy: The Dark Life Behind The Scene

 
Dear Dr. Bain,

I am a Bangladeshi by birth and I would like to see the country prosper and live with honour and dignity. But when I see that figure of 3 million deaths in the liberation war, I cringe. I cringe because of the enormity of the lie and I cringe because of the failure of knowledgeable and erudite people like you to accept facts. Let me tell you the story (and it is absolutely true) behind the 3 million.

When Sheikh Mujibur Rahman came back to Dhaka from the Pakistani prison via London, he had been briefed by politicians, civil servants, diplomats, foreign dignitaries etc. A couple of days later he had to give interview with foreign journalists. He was told by his team that during the war as many as 3 lakhs (i.e. 300,000) of people died - a wild exaggeration by itself.
Then in the interview Sheikh Mujibur Rahman said that 3 million people had died; he thought the English of lakh is million! Once uttered by the 'father of the nation', nobody wanted to contradict or correct him. So this totally bonkers figure of 3 million got stuck. A more discerning person would not quote this figure at all. The actual figure, derived from statistical studies and from survey conducted during the 1970s, is more like 50,000 to 60,000 deaths. (You compare the death figure from the battle of Stalingrad, which was bloodiest battle of the WWII. Over 1 million Nazi (Axis) soldiers with 500 most advanced tanks and 600 aircrafts faced and fought with 1.2 million Red Army soldiers with 400 tanks and 350 aircrafts over a period of six months. The Stalingrad battle was the largest and bloodiest tank battle in the world, Stalingrad was literally demolished to ground, people lived in bunkers and sewage drains eating rats. The total death at the end of it all was 1.4 million. Does Sheikh Mujibur Rahman or her daughter want to say that more than double of that number of fatalities had happened in Bangladesh, although there were no large scale battles, no tank battles, no aircraft bombings, only local skirmishes?)

This attitude of falsifying facts or evidence from the top political figures and leaders of the society to, dare I say, the common people is symptomatic of Bangladesh's malaise. What the country needs is accountability and a high dose reality and common sense. 

- A Rahman
 
From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 1 December 2013, 22:39
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Sajeeb Wazed Joy: The Dark Life Behind The Scene

 
I do not think this kind of propaganda would help the cause of the fanatics who are doing it. Even if everything in the video were factual, it does not damage much of the so-called image of Bangladesh. For Awami League, Joy is not a candidate; he is working only for promoting that party.
 
Besides, what is the 'image of Bangladesh' in the outside world? For just one example, the country talks about 3 million murdered in 1971, yet does not punish any of the murderers in more than 40 years, nor does it secure compensation, or even an apology, from any of the murderers! With this kind of value the country giving to its 3 million lives, Bangladesh has no respectable image to people who care about the image of any country/society.
 
Well Bangladesh is a jungle; all sides are doing inappropriate things. But I think, with the IT skills of people like Joy, Awami League can deliver the patriotic fervor of 1971 to the nation, which would definitely help that party and its associated progressive allies.
 
SuBain

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From: Anis Ahmed <anis.ahmed@netzero.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 6:40 AM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Sajeeb Wazed Joy: The Dark Life Behind The Scene

 
Sajeeb Wazed Joy: The Dark Life Behind The Scene
 
The Secret Stories of Writ, Wine, Women and Weapon
 
ইউটিউবে দেখুনঃ http://youtu.be/WX-ugZ2VSpo
 
 
সময়ের সাক্ষী - ShomoyerShakkhi.com এবার উপস্থাপন করল প্রধানমন্ত্রীর প্রচারমুখী আইটি উপদেষ্টা ও তথাকথিত 'বিজ্ঞানী' সজীব ওয়াজেদ জয়ের পর্দার অন্তরালের অন্ধকার জীবন, যার মূল উপাদান অপরাধ, অপসংস্কৃতি, উচ্ছৃংখলতা ও উম্মত্ততা। উম্মোচিত হল অস্ত্রবহন, মদ্যপান সহ একের পর এক মামলায় যুক্তরাষ্ট্রের আদালতে আসামীর কাঠগড়ায় দাঁড়িয়ে বহির্বিশ্বে দেশের ভাবমূর্তি বিনাশের গল্প।

এটি সজীব ওয়াজেদ জয়ের উপর সময়ের সাক্ষীর অনুসন্ধানী ও তথ্যপ্রমাণ ভিত্তিক সিরিজ প্রকাশনার প্রথম পর্ব।
 
ইউটিউবে দেখুনঃ http://youtu.be/WX-ugZ2VSpo









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