Intelligent nations do not need preachings from an English backbencher to sort their mess. Do you understand the difference? Or, your scull has gotten too thick with Saudi zakat? If only Saudis could just distribute more of their wealth with the Muslim countries, all problems will be solved? Please, do not hold your breath for such irrational dream. That won't be happening in your life time! Good day and get lost, you, dickhead.
-SD
Muzy Bhai,Dada Dildar did not understand what you meant. May be he faces the same inequality in his society as a nomosudhro. This could be a tough sentiment to grow with and to shape his thinking and world based on the inequality.SD should first fight from his own social settings (Hindu society). Someone was telling that a nomosudhro can only view world with all the negative as they are the most deprived.
Your explanation here is a lot more palatable and highlights some of the harder facts of life people have to deal with on a daily basis. You will probably realize that your point of view is not all that divergent from mine. Yes, Darwinism is still alive and well, but I prefer to high light the positive aspects rather than the negative qualities of humanity. You may call it utopian. The struggle for equal access to opportunity remains not only in the developed and industrialized nations but also in the developing countries. Agricultural slavery of the yester has been replaced by white collar slavery, thanks to newer technology and increased productivity and need for increased profit. I think there is an acute deficit of moral leadership in most nations, and most captains of the industries and social elites continue to yield to irrational greed. Yes, education is required but education in itself is not sufficient without the benevolence or cooperation of the ‘powers to be’. Unified demand for social and economic equity can only bring about change. Majority of the Palestinian emigrants are among the most highly educated, but have not been able to make much dent in their quest for a sovereign state. Look at Bangladesh. There are more schools per sq. kilometer in Dhaka, yet we continue to suffer from high rates of under employment. Governments are not half as effective as they ought to be. Take India or Pakistan. There are Phd folks in Bombay or Karachi who are driving taxis or serving in five start restaurants. Not all can be absorbed in the IT or Manufacturing sectors. The same story in South Africa or for that matter in the entire Middle East. Greece, Italy, Spain, Cyprus --- the same basic story there. Maybe the newer generation will yield more result by uniting and rallying behind core generational ideas across the globe for greater harmony across social classes and higher social & economic equity. Anyways, I don’t want to continue further with such depressing thoughts…Castle is about to start!
Peace,
MH
From: Shah DeEldar [mailto:shahdeeldar@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 2:17 PM
To: Husainy, Mozammel
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Subject: Re: Embarrassing video for all Muslims
I have no extra passion to engage you with this issue either. What I wanted to state with my post is that the inequality is the mother of all world's problem whether you believe or not. You bring any problem and I will show you the blatant connection. We have stronger countries and then, we have weaker countries. And, the very same goes with the people. Some do think that they are superior to others. Are they right to do that? I do not know. If Bangladesh could produce fifty or so Nobel laureates in Physics, Math, Chemistry and Biology, no damn country would dare to address Bangladeshis as poor Mishkins of the east. If Muslim countries could take care of their own citizens with a decent governance and good science based education, no damn Galloway would be required to deliver the sermon. Not that Galloway has really diagnosed the real disease, he just stated what people wanted to hear. But, what is Galloway's recipe to deal with Muslim problem? Unite and fight? For whom, for what and where? Please enlighten me if you care!
Declaration of Independence is a great document. The people who preach it everyday are not practicing it to its full meaning. And that is my problem. Read carefully what I wrote. No need to distort my message.
Thank you.
-SD
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Husainy, Mozammel <meh@husainy.net> wrote:
First of all, neither equality nor inferiority complex are necessary conditions for enmity. It is a matter of speech to say someone is his own enemy. It essentially speaks to behavior which is harmful for one’s own good. Unity is a virtue that is often missing (as you suggest). Mr. Galloway was simply stating a fact, and no one is jumping up & down. With respect to Saudi Arabia, being the keeper of the Holy Mosques, and being the largest and richest Muslim country, it is their moral obligation to protect the interests of all Muslims word wide. The western countries with majority Christian population are more united than the Islamic countries. It is widely believed among political scientists that the KSA has intentionally maintained disparity in the region to secure not only their regional power but maintain the strong hold of the royal family, and hence the long sufferings of the Palestinians, Syrians etc. vis-à-vis Israel and the USA.
Your disrespect for the Declaration of Independence of the USA – assuming it is your adopted country now, to say the least, is deplorable.
I do not wish to further engage with you on this issue. Let’s agree to disagree.
-MH
From: Shah DeEldar [mailto:shahdeeldar@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 6:24 PM
To: Husainy, Mozammel
Cc: bangladesh-progressives googlegroups; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Americanbangladeshi; Rezaul Karim; Nazda Alam; BDPANA@yahoogroups.com; BANGLADESH C.FORUM; bisne boston
Subject: Re: Embarrassing video for all Muslims
"Muslims are their own enemies"
Why would Muslims be their own enemies unless some consider themselves superior to others? That is why I had to jump to the equality question. Then, you castigate Saudis for their brand of Islam and Saudi nationalism. Saudis are Muslims but you can't expect sub-continental Muslim mentality from these desert people? They are simply different people with different culture and national interests, period!
The main point has been how to unite all these Muslim populations and fight the Western interests when West itself is not an united entity? This is basically nothing but some empty talk leading us no where. Galloway gives a stupid sermon and you guys are jumping up and down.
We can talk about that beautiful Declaration of Independence (1776) crap but question is, why it took another six decades to get rid of slavery (1833). Now, if that was the end of all that Black sufferings, I would be truly happy. But it did not end there. Segregation exited up until 1960s despite all these great words from 1776 declaration. So, put that thing in box and experience the true reality of the street.
"The Muslim problem" (if exists) is not any different our equality problem. Think carefully!-SD
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