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Tuesday, October 14, 2014

[mukto-mona] RE: Prophet Muhammad used to order his Jihadi gang to assassinate his rivals and most important critics of Islam



 
 
FROM THE NEWS DESK OF THE WASHINGTON POST
 

Islamic State says it is buying and selling Yazidi women, using them as concubines

 

Members of Iraq's Yazidi minority speak about the atrocities they suffered under Islamic State militants. (Reuters)
 October 12  

 — The Islamic State extremist organization boasted Sunday that it had enslaved women from an Iraqi minority group in order to use them as concubines, as a rights organization detailed teenagers being bought and sold by fighters for as little as $1,000.

An English-language propaganda magazine for the Islamic State said that Yazidi women and children were considered spoils of war after they were captured as the militants seized their towns and villages. It was the first confirmation from the group of widespread allegations of detention and sexual abuse against Yazidi women.

Hundreds of thousands of members of the ancient sect were displaced as the Islamic State swept through the Sinjar area of northern Iraq in August, prompting President Obama to warn of an unfolding genocide. Those who fled said that while men had been massacred, hundreds of women and children had been detained.

After detaining the Yazidis, the Islamic State systematically separated young women and teenage girls from their families, New York-based Human Rights Watch said in a report that also came out on Sunday.

"The Islamic State's litany of horrific crimes against the Yazidis in Iraq only keeps growing," said Fred Abrahams, a special adviser at HRW. The group documented 366 Yazidis who were being held captive but also said some detainees reached by phone reported that the number was more than 1,000. The Iraqi government said that 1,500 women were detained during the advances in the Sinjar area, which is also home to Christian and Shiite minorities.

One 15-year-old girl interviewed after she had escaped told the group that the Palestinian Islamic State militant she had been sold to bought her for $1,000.

The women and children were divided among fighters according to Islamic law, the Islamic State magazine, called Dabiq, said.

"The enslaved Yazidi families are now sold by the Islamic State soldiers," it continued. The article argued that although Christians and Jews can be offered the chance to pay a tax or convert, Yazidis, as polytheists, can be enslaved if captured during war.

It goes on to detail the argument for enslavement under its extremist interpretation of Islam, boasting that it's the largest mass-enslavement since the early days of the religion.

"One should remember that enslaving the families of the [nonbelievers] and taking their women as concubines is a firmly established aspect of Islamic law," the magazine said. "Their creed is so deviant from the truth that even cross-worshipping Christians for ages considered them devil worshippers and Satanists."

 

The rejection of slavery has led to an increase in adultery and fornication, it said, because men who can't afford marriage find themselves surrounded by temptation, including by maids. "If she were his concubine, this relationship would be legal," it said.

None of the Yazidi women interviewed by HRW said they had been raped, but sexual assault is deeply stigmatized in the conservative sect.

One interviewed by the group said she'd seen "brides" taken from both a school and prison she was held in.

"Some were as young as 12 or 13, and up to age 20," she said. "Some they had to pull away with force. Some of the young women were married but without children, so [the Islamic State soldiers] didn't believe they were married."

 

 

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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 12:53:07 -0400
Subject: shahdeeldar@gmail.com

How a God tells His followers to kill, plunder and banish if you do not belong to the 'right' religion? Either God is wrong or we humans have gotten it totally wrong? The verses are troubling and need to be modified to make sure that there is no ambiguity exists between what God has conveyed and what he did not. This is 21st century, where knowledge and facts rule!
-SD

On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Jamal Hasan <poplu@hotmail.com> wrote:
Here is a video link where Dr. Zuhdi Jasser speaks at Oslo Freedom Forum 2010: "How Islam Works with Democracy":
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P35E31THd8
 
 
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You said,
"... Good job,Dr. Jasser.  Muslims believe that Quran is the words  of God that were revealed to Prophet Muhammad by the archangel Gabriel. If they are words of God, why would you reform God's words. I understand there are scope of different interpretation.and it has been taking place for in so many different places i so many different circumstances and it will continue until it fits every culture and every society. It is a continuous process..."
 

Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 16:43:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Prophet Muhammad used to order his Jihadi gang to assassinate his rivals and most important critics of Islam
From: rezaulkarim617@gmail.com
To: poplu@hotmail.com



The debate reminded me of a great western scholar.The world knows George Bernard Shaw, a famous scholar,a writer and non-Muslim. He said this about Prophet Muhammad (P) and peace in the world, "He must be called the Savior of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it much needed peace and happiness."
[The Genuine Islam, Singapore, Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936]

Yes, what's happening in the Muslim world and middle east are horrible. But remember it has increased many fold after 9/11 and the west military campaign are mostly responsible.  and after especially after the  failed Iraq invasion to bring democracy there. 

My friends, Islam is a religion of peace. As a Muslim,let me say that Muslims do not believe that Islam is  a new religion, it's the summation and culmination of all monotheistic religions from Adam to Muhammad.(peace be on all of them). All prophets are prophets of Islam..My feeling was that this debate was an attempt and a   total set up to demonize Islam as a religion and Muslims as wanted religious minority in America that goes against the very constitution. Good job,Dr. Jasser.  Muslims believe that Quran is the words  of God that were revealed to Prophet Muhammad by the archangel Gabriel. If they are words of God, why would you reform God's words. I understand there are scope of different interpretation.and it has been taking place for in so many different places i so many different circumstances and it will continue until it fits every culture and every society. It is a continuous process.

May Allah forgive me for saying anything contrary as I'm not an authority in Islam, but I can participate with my free mind on anything, even issues with religion, my religion, my peace of mind, my connection with God, our God. May God bless us all. Hating Islam and Muslims won't take the civilization anywhere as one humanity.
Thanks..

On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Jamal Hasan <poplu@hotmail.com> wrote:
Folks,
 
Following the path of civility, let us gain the strength of agreeing to disagree. I am pasting below an interesting discussion on Islam.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns5NafChPsI
 
Published on Sep 24, 2014
Article with comments at: http://www.westernfreepress.com/?p=26...
Are you tired of sound-bite discussions on the subject of "radical Islam"? Would you like to hear a deeper discussion?

THIS VIDEO is a high-quality, Lincoln-Douglas-style debate between two articulate speakers who have deep knowledge of the subject. The title is "Understanding Islam: Threat or Faith".

Dr. Zuhdi Jasser is a devout Muslim well-known nationally from his many appearances on television, especially Fox News. Dr. Carl Goldberg is an historian who has devoted a major portion of his life to studying the Quran, the Haddith, and writings of Islamic scholars and Imams, both old and new.

This debate is moderated by Shane Krauser of www.FreedomFires.com


0:02:45 Opening statements
0:07:50 Can Islam and Political Islam be separated?
0:17:45 What is the cause of the radicalization of Islam?
0:27:30 Can Muslims be loyal Americans and US soldiers?
0:38:09 Can Sharia be consistent with American law?
0:48:30 Was Muhammed an honorable man? Does it matter?
0:59:10 Is reform of Islam possible? What would it look like?
1:09:25 Can Islam be consistent with our 1st Amendment?
1:20:50 What are short- and long-term strategies to protect America from radical Islamism
1:32:50 What should our foreign policy toward OIC nations?
1:44:20 Closing arguments
 
Enjoy viewing.
 
-Jamal Hasan

Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 10:55:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Prophet Muhammad used to order his Jihadi gang to assassinate his rivals and most important critics of Islam
From: shahdeeldar@gmail.com
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com


"There is a need for reform, review and renewal in areas of Islam. Islam is too decentralized and we need proper
leadership."-Rahman


What would you reform? The Book or the behavior of it's stringent followers, who want to go for the purest version of it to please the God? The venom of hatred and violence is well spread in the entire body that no antidote can do the magic anymore. If this is called a religion of peace, then who needs  the war?
Good luck, my friend! The new leadership would not a chance against the daggers and terror. Thank you.
-SD


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