Mr. Hannan is wrong again. There are more poor people in India than
anywhere else, but the percentage of poor in Bangladesh is higher.
On 10/31/11, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:
> The issues raised below are petty issues to judge a country, whether
> Pakistan, Bangladesh or India.
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> I can say about India, just as an example, that poverty is deeper there in
> large segments of population compared to Bangladesh. Top level corruption
> there is much more .. Communal tension there is daily affair. Minority
> Muslims are in much more bad condition in India compared to Bangladesh or
> Pakistan. West Bengal Muslims have two percent services there though they
> are thirty percent of the population of West Bengal.
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> Pakistan is a serious victim of international terrorism compared to India
> and Bangladesh. They are fighting that admirably. Indian home grown
> terrorism is much more and India can not solve it.
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> I may also point out that neither Islam, nor Islamic forces in Bangladesh
> are anti-minority or anti-development or anti- democracy. Too much bias
> takes us nowhere.
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> I am not responding to individual small points. I have made essentially
> broad comments.
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> Shah Abdul Hannan
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> From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Jiten Roy
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 9:39 PM
> To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] THE PARTITION AND TODAY'S PAKISTAN
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> It will be naive to think that Bangladesh is far behind the Pakistan, as far
> as those points are concerned. Many of those conditions do prevail in
> Bangladesh, either explicitly or implicitly. For example, there is no
> possibility of a non-Muslim President in Bangladesh, Ahmadiyas are not
> recognized as full-Muslms and threat against them exists, Bangladesh has
> unofficial blasphemy law and Fatwas (Sharia), etc., etc.
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> The reason for Bangladesh lagging Pakistan, in some of those conditions, is
> due to the qasi-secular politics of Awami League. Give a few years of power
> to BNP/Jamat; they will catch up with Pakistan pretty quickly. They are all
> waiting in the queue at the door-step. Bangladesh is, in fact, sitting on
> the active volcano.
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> Jiten Roy
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> From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
> To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 6:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] THE PARTITION AND TODAY'S PAKISTAN
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> Sukhamaya
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> * Pakistan is an Islamic Republic. No non-Muslim can become President
> of the country. Right?
> * Ahmadiyas have been declared non-Muslims. This country does not
> recognize Nobel Laureate Salam as a Muslim.
> * Who is running Pakistan? A very difficult question. Who controls the
> nuclear arsenal? A serious question. There are worries that this country is
> on the verge of being a failed sate. Potentially a horrific situation
> indeed.
> * Shia'ite mosques are often bombarded by suicide bombers.
> * This country has blasphemy law
> * Sectarian clashes are common
> * A country where bin Laden could hide in a cantonment city. A lot
> more are hiding, getting training, and controlling many parts of the country
> * Culturally (literature, movie, theaters, arts, painting, etc.) is
> stagnant and worse-- going backward
> * War on terrorism is a big business there for the vested interest
> groups
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> Just sit down and reflect. You will come up with many more points that make
> Pakistan much more different from Bangladesh.
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> From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
> To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] THE PARTITION AND TODAY'S PAKISTAN
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> I would not yet flatly call Raja Gopalacharya's prognosis wrong. After all
> Bangladesh has a constitution that begins with Bismillah and proclaims Islam
> as the state religion. May be Gopalacharya did not realize that Pakistan
> would go as much into the ditch as it is today. Bangladesh is better than
> Pakistan now, but it is nowhere near India in terms of respecting the
> religious minorities. It has been a semi-Pakistan for most of its life, and
> could be just one election away from there now.
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> From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
> To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:38 PM
> Subject: [mukto-mona] THE PARTITION AND TODAY'S PAKISTAN
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> Raja Gopalacharya's prognosis turned out to be wrong! To him any neighboring
> country with Muslim majority was a Pakistan. That was a political statement.
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> From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
> To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: THE PARTITION AND TODAY'S PAKISTAN
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> On Dec. 16, 1971 Raja Gopalacharya reacted to the news of the surrender of
> the Pakistan Army in Dacca, "Her father created one Pakistan, she created
> two". Secularism is a pipe dream here, with strong religious institutions
> supported by government financing it is indeed not possible. Bangladesh
> today has over ten times more madrasahs than the whole subcontinent had
> before the partition of the subcontinent. Even the Hindu fundamentalism is
> on the rise here.
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> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I am actually no fan of Napoleon Bonaparte; just used his quote to make the
> point of agreeing with Mr. Subimal Chakrabarty that re-unification of the
> Indian sub-continent is not totally impossible, while maintaining myself
> that it would be very much unlikely in the foreseeable future.
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> As for Nehru's quote, I would say that re-unification of India with today's
> Pakistan would be a much bigger problem for India than just a carbuncle on
> the butt; it would be like a huge cancerous tumor. Being born and raised up
> to 25 years and having a lot of friends and relatives there, I am reluctant
> to use the phrase "carbuncle on the butt" on Bangladesh. Moreover, I do see
> some ray of hope for Bangladesh. The country overall is certainly much
> better than Pakistan in terms of secular humanism, which seems to be in a
> growing mode there now.
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> Sukhamaya Bain
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> From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
> To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:41 PM
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> Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: THE PARTITION AND TODAY'S PAKISTAN
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> About reunification Nehru said, "I don't want a carbuncle on my butt." We
> all know what Napoleon did to himself and France.
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