You consider that your values come from the Koran and the teachings of the Prophet, and, as such, they are better than those of materialists, secularists, and atheists.
My question is - how do you know it's so, when you have nothing to support your claim? Is it just another belief? Whatever examples are demonstrated so far by our religious people in the society does not validate the claim that they are any better than any of us. In fact, most cases they are at the hearts of most troubles.
I try to follow good values in my life also without using any of your means, and there are countless others, like me. I believe that – there is no 'right way' or 'wrong way' to do good things on this world. Everyone needs to find his/her way to do good things.
Thanks.
Jiten Roy
From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Do inquisitive thoughts die in a religious-mind?
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Do inquisitive thoughts die in a religious-mind?
Mr Jiten Roy. I take your criticism in proper spirit. I have more faults than you mention.
However on the substantive I hold by what I said. I have nothing new to add except that I find many religious people of all religions who believe in their respective scriptures but believe in co-existence and search for knowledge. In my case, Quran and the Prophet's teaching have given me many morally sound values than the materialists , atheists and secularists ..
With regards
Shah Abdul Hannan
From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:43 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Do inquisitive thoughts die in a religious-mind?
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:43 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Do inquisitive thoughts die in a religious-mind?
Mr. Hannan,
As you know, many religious scholars will opine that – there is no need for any other books, but the religious scriptures. Unfortunately, they are not illiterate people. Won't you think that their minds are entrapped in a cocoon? Can you expect any broad based idea from those people?
On the other hand, you are a very special religious man, with inquisitive mind. I believe – that's why you are here with us. You are quite a gentle man also. I have seen many unfair criticisms, directed at you in this forum; you took them with great stride. Unfortunately, many of us cannot do so. This quality comes from your inquisitive mind, and quest for knowledge. Yet, sometimes, it appears to me that you are channeling your thoughts in a very narrow band. In my view, it's a waste of intellect. Please do not misunderstand my friendly criticisms of you.
Regards,
Jiten Roy
From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Do inquisitive thoughts die in a religious-mind?
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Do inquisitive thoughts die in a religious-mind?
I can say about myself. My deep faith did not stop me to study everything including a few books on Atheism. I do not think religion stopped any great religious man, be he Mahatma Gandhi or Iqbal or Saint Thomas Acqinus, from studying and knowing all possible required knowledge.
Those who do not study, whether religious or not, they are themselves to blame
Shah Abdul Hannan
From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:26 AM
To: Mukto-mona
Subject: [mukto-mona] Do inquisitive thoughts die in a religious-mind?
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:26 AM
To: Mukto-mona
Subject: [mukto-mona] Do inquisitive thoughts die in a religious-mind?
Do inquisitive thoughts die in a religious-mind?
Many of us have overflowing deep passion for religion, which sometimes supersedes any other feelings or passions we may have, such as, passion for family or friends. We hear stories of people who leave family and friends to join religious cults, and, after a while, they don't even recognize their own parents and siblings. They forgo all previous attachments with everything, but religion. How and why this condition occurs to a most intelligent species on earth. How much brain-washing does it need to get there? I know non-religious ideologies, such as Nazism and Communism, have used similar form of brain-washing in the past. What's different in case of religion is that – brain-washing begins at home. After that, very little is needed to get hooked on to it. It's that much intoxicating!
Many parents send their kids to receive institutional brain-washing. After all, the institutional ones are the professional ones. The passion for religion varies from religion to religion. Passion becomes strong when people identify themselves through their religion. In this case, people could become too defensive of their religion - since it's their identity also. Those who belong to this class – are the devout religious individuals. They believe religion provides a complete code-of-life, meaning religion has prescriptions for most problems in life. They, not only believe in that, also practice it. You bring a problem to them – they will consult similar examples from their religious scripture, and come up with a solution. Is there anything wrong in doing so? Answer depends on the horizon of your quest.
Many of those super religionists cannot think outside the scriptural box, at all. They lead very simple lives, and they have ready solutions for most of their day-to-day problems. Why would they need to think at all? Sriptures provide everything for them. The problem arises for those who are not happy with such simple lives or those who have quest for unknown. That is why, I believe, scientists, inventors, entrepreneurs, etc. are not highly religious people. My hypothesis is - inquisitive thoughts die in a religious mind. I know many of you will disagree with my hypothesis. My inquisitive mind is eager to hear from you.
Jiten Roy
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