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Saturday, February 25, 2012

Re: [mukto-mona] Taqiya does not mean deceit. It means hiding or keeping secret one's religion. if some one feels danger if he discloses his faith



What happened to the three major waves of Jewish immigrants to India? 

>>>>>>> Tell us what exactly happened?



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From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2012 8:26 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Taqiya does not mean deceit. It means hiding or keeping secret one's religion. if some one feels danger if he discloses his faith

 

"Hinduism" and "Judaism" are "too pure" to accept an outsider.  Really???  What happened to the three major waves of Jewish immigrants to India?  What happened to the Buddhists who constituted ninety percent of Bengal populace before Adisur?

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:17 AM, subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Preaching or propagating a religion if you will is marketing of an idea. As in modern marketing you have to use all the marketing tools, strategies, and tactics to be effective. Buddhism, Christianity, and Islam have been being missionary religions. And we know what missionaries do in general. Besides the soft spoken preachers, rulers and conquerors also supplement the efforts of the preachers sometimes with sword. Historically Christian and Islamic history of preaching have not been always peaceful particularly when the rulers and conquerors have taken active roles. Buddhism although a proselytizing religion was an exception in this respect. "Hinduism" and "Judaism" are "too pure" to accept an outsider. Hinduism within its own periphery will rather suppress the lower casts obliging them to convert to another religion. In that sense Hinduism is anti-preaching. In modern times, Chaitanyadeb and Vivekananda made exceptions. While Christian missioneries risked their lives to go to remote araes in India, the custodians of Hinduism kept themselves busy with the task of making religion more and more inaccesible. Service to the distressed humanity and bringing light to the underprivileged and neglected people are the good sides of preaching. There are ugly sides too. Bribing for example is an example.     

From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:58 PM

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Taqiya does not mean deceit. It means hiding or keeping secret one's religion. if some one feels danger if he discloses his faith
 
All religions allow lying to save one's life. If that's Taqiya, it's understandable,  but I heard -  it also includes provision for any deceitful tactics for propagation of Islam, including conversion. Is that so? Could someone clarify this misunderstanding?
Jiten Roy

--- On Tue, 2/21/12, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Taqiya does not mean deceit. It means hiding or keeping secret one's religion. if some one feels danger if he discloses his faith
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2012, 9:38 PM

 
It also means telling a few lies.
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 9:18 PM, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:
 
Taqiya does not mean deceit. It means hiding or keeping secret one's religion. if some one feels danger if he discloses his faith.This is permitted by some sects in Islam, not all. I feel it appropriate in case of danger.
Nothing should be distorted.
 
Shah Abdul Hannan
 
 
 
From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kamal Das
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:33 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Fw: OP meeting on "Hindu temples and properties are d estroyed in Chittagong, Bangladesh"
 
 
Even God supports deceit in the 'interest of religion', the Arabic word for it is taquia.  About the 'referendum of 1940', the Lahore resolution was not a referendum.  It was the result of a Muslim League meeting.  The participants, e.g., Sikander Hyat Khan of the Unionist Party, G. M. Syed of Jiye Sind, and Fajlul Haque of K. S. P.,  were members of provincial parliaments elected in 1937 on the separate electorate basis.  They were coerced by the British Governors to be members of the Muslim League, else their cabinets would be dissolved (Ref.- A. J. Moore in Escape from the Empire).  According to Maulana Azad, Indian Muslims had grown weaker as a political force due to partition in 1947.
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
 




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