Normally a dissertation is just a little twist or an inch of advancement from what has been done in a particular field. And quite often, it is even less than that.
Getting back to the starting point of the Turkish woman who beheaded her multiple rapist. What message would the rapist get, if the victim meets her assaulter repeatedly after the first incidence, or allows him to meet her? That simple consideration is absent from a few self claimed wise man and one wise woman here.
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 2:51 AM, Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:
About a decade ago, there was a sensational news in American media. One student wrote a dissertation that was "read" by the members of the dissertation committee and the same earned him a Ph. D degree. It was later on found that that dissertation did not make any sense; it was simply full of complex concepts, equations, and cryptic language, and sounded like a very original work. This sensational news probably can still be read using google search.A Korean student I'm my school used right data but wrong program to end up with findings that did not make sense. His chair only sensed the mistake. The remaining members had the slightest idea about the topic. My friend got Ph. D. When I asked him why he was not trying to publish it. In reply he revealed what I have described above. He is now teaching in Korea.Every dissertation is not a dissertation that uncovers very fundamental truth. We may cite de Broglie or Amartya Sen. According to my friend who had a Ph. D from Pennstate that normally a dissertation is just a little twist or an inch of advancement from what has been done in a particular field.
Sent from my iPhoneNeedless to say that I have also published in many peer reviewed journals. So, I would not take your BS that the book is really peer reviewed like one that you are talking about. The author may have given it to his friends to look at it but that does not mean it was peer reviewed. That book is merely his/her opinion. Do you understand?
Do you know how scientific papers are anonymously reviewed by two to three referees? You can publish thousands books from your basement but that does not mean you are peer reviewed. Even a scientific review article is not peer reviewed. Most of the time, it is the editor, who looks through it and prints it for the public. It is never too late to learn some hard facts about scientific publication policy of our time! Books are not peer reviewed, period!
"The key finding in that book, and elsewhere also, is that no male would sustain his erection without signal to trigger it from his counterpart. "
If you believe in such BS, tell me what methodology did he use? How these experiments were done? Just make my day Professor!!! I dare you that you would not be able find any methodology in that fictional book. Take my challenge!
-SD
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Turkish Abortion Debate Renewed After Nevin Yildirim Beheads Alleged Rapist
I have given the key finding before, and you did not comprehend it. Peer reviewed scientific study, may be better in your opinion, being foolish enough not to know that no book gets published without being reviewed by peers. I have published a few scientific papers in the western world myself. I don't need a lecture from any one like you on matters involving scientific mind who defends murder against rape. The key finding in that book, and elsewhere also, is that no male would sustain his erection without signal to trigger it from his counterpart. Apparently, you don't even have the ability to search the relevant articles on the net, which is easier than looking for it elsewhere.
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:A book of 100 or 1000 pages does not prove anything but a peer reviewed scientific study does. You sound like another Rahman or Hannan who rather carry a religious book and find all their answers in that book. At least, they know all the words in that book. Do you see the problem?
It is a great shame that you can't even quote the key findings in that book. And, you call yourself a scientific mind?
You have a tendency to get into many discussions and throw some books for the forum people to read while you, yourself not knowing fully the contents of those books. Who would you like to impress with such shallow one or two liners?
-SD"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBSSent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Turkish Abortion Debate Renewed After Nevin Yildirim Beheads Alleged Rapist
The book is a short one, would need a little over an hour to read, and is available on the net. A point proved over hundred pages can not be presented by a few lines. You seem to lack that comprehension. You would not find me bright, may be because I am not so, and their might be other reasons too, like you have lost your eyesight if you ever had any. Their are other observations by reputed authors on the subject of rape or sex(which by the way are very different subjects) between opposite genders. A classic allegation was made by Julekha against Yusuf/Joseph. Luckily he could present a shirt to prove that the lady was the real attacker. Other accused are not so fortunate.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:"In this case, the 'victim' did not resort to any legal means, she silenced the 'predator' and does not deserve sympathy from any corner."Any legal means in a patriarchal country like Turkey, where rape is still a family shame and taboo? You have lost your mind. Besides, the lady might need four witnesses to testify about those rapes.
I do not know what kind of professor you are? I do not find you very bright.
If you want to cite some reference, cite some scientific findings and data. An opinion from some psychiatrist is not good enough. Besides, you are throwing a whole book for me to read and find me the answer. Why don't you exactly quote what this man has written? Tell me how he did his experiments? I do not think you are up to that task.
-SD"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBSSent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Turkish Abortion Debate Renewed After Nevin Yildirim Beheads Alleged Rapist
"According to Prof. Das's theory, a second assault would make things totally kosher because the female victim probably initiates that encounter? All of a sudden a victim becomes a predator?" This is a total misinterpretation. In this case, the 'victim' did not resort to any legal means, she silenced the 'predator' and does not deserve sympathy from any corner. The real story in a rape case is rarely exposed. Statistically, more 'rapes' are committed by acquaintances. If the first few go unreported, the instigation factor can not be ignored. It is apparent, whose argument is 'silly and stupid'. If someone does not care a professional psychiatrist or a best seller book, it is his problem, and he should look for a graceful exit before even advising others to do so.
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:I think the bone of contention for this argument is whether a predator assaults his victims once or twice? According to Prof. Das's theory, a second assault would make things totally kosher because the female victim probably initiates that encounter? All of a sudden a victim becomes a predator? I think the argument is pretty silly and stupid!
-SD"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBSSent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Turkish Abortion Debate Renewed After Nevin Yildirim Beheads Alleged Rapist
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Turkish Abortion Debate Renewed After Nevin Yildirim Beheads Alleged Rapist
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 12, 2012, 11:28 AM
Do you think I care who is professor and who is not? Some professorial positions/names do not cut with me, bro Please put some solid data to prove your point if you care. Show us some rape simulation data regarding what hormones or chemicals are being induced or secreted from the victims' brains in comparison to a normal intercourse. If you can't, please take a graceful exit from this discussion.
-SD
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
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