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Monday, May 20, 2013

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Few clarifications member Roy.

Population growth may be partially responsible for the growth in Islam. Hinduism is probably growing pretty close to Islam due to population growth alone. I was pointing to the increased conversion rate in Islam.

>>>>>>>>>> You are right about it. Also we are losing Muslims as well. Specially in the western countries. However due to increasing interest in islam, the net result shows Muslims are growing. Many Muslims do not want to "Confess" about losing Muslims to other religion or "Secularism" but it is a reality.

Passion for religion among other groups is receding, but passion for Islam among Muslims is still vibrant. I think - this is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a renewed interest in Islam among Muslims and non-Muslims. Unlike other religion Islam offers something for almost all issues an average man or woman might face in their lives. It offers a "Complete code of life". That is why some one in China, India, Indonesia, Germany or UK can practice Islam without violating laws of the land.

because of the fact that Islam is the latest religion on earth. Islam provides handsome reward for Muslims who will recruit non-Muslims for conversion.


>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually Christianity (Catholics, protestant and all denominations combined) is the largest religion groups. Islam is the second largest group. I have known quite a few people who are dealing with new Muslims but never seen they were given any money for it. Maybe some Arab countries give some money to those new Muslims who have been disowned by their family members but most people do not get money for becoming Muslims. Those who work with new Muslims loves to get their reward from their Maker not another human beings. This is the general rule.



Consequently, everyone of them is recruiting agent for Islam. This is not so in other religions. All these points need to be taken into account.


>>>>>>>>>>> Most Muslims do not even practice their own faith. Those who do, most of them are not educated about Islam. So we may look very active in recruiting but reality is very different. Albeit the young generation are studying Islam with enthusiasm and sharing it.

Media have been brutal to Muslim in post 9-11 world. However this brought up a lot of people with questions about Islam. A large number of those people gotten their spiritual answers in Islam and accepted Islam as their faith. Most of them are from the west.



Recently, there was a posting in the Mukto-mona, which you may have seen. I think the story was from France, where a minor Christian girl met someone on the web, and got converted to Islam over the phone. She eloped with that older man, and got married. There are organized efforts from mosques, targeting non-Muslim girls for conversion.
 
>>>>>>>>>>> This is a myth. I have known quite a few Muslims men and women who are married to Hindu men. Albeit it is forbidden in Islam. Similarly it is not impossible to imagine some young women are attracted to men who happens to be Muslim.

If you look into everything via religious prism, you will get the wrong picture. I think you are giving too much credit to Muslims, who do not deserve such credit.


Christianity has conversion, but – Christians are losing interest in church already. They only depend on designated recruiting agents for conversion. All these factors should be taken into account.


>>>>>>>>>> I know about this and it is just wrong. Christians spend at least 100 times more money into "Official" missions. There are "Unofficial missions" which comes as NGO and part of other aid organizations. Many Muslims do not like them but I don't.

Since I know few missionaries who became Muslims while trying to convert!

Feel free to check with Mormons (Who are VERY active), Catholics and evangelicals (Hyperactive Christians).

Muslims are very unorganized about conversion business but somehow they pull it off. A small miracle.

Shalom!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 6:59 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] [Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner] TITLE

 
Population growth may be partially responsible for the growth in Islam. Hinduism is probably growing pretty close to Islam due to population growth alone. I was pointing to the increased conversion rate in Islam.
 
Passion for religion among other groups is receding, but passion for Islam among Muslims is still vibrant. I think - this is because of the fact that Islam is the latest religion on earth. Islam provides handsome reward for Muslims who will recruit non-Muslims for conversion. Consequently, everyone of them is recruiting agent for Islam. This is not so in other religions. All these points need to be taken into account. 
 
Recently, there was a posting in the Mukto-mona, which you may have seen. I think the story was from France, where a minor Christian girl met someone on the web, and got converted to Islam over the phone. She eloped with that older man, and got married. There are organized efforts from mosques, targeting non-Muslim girls for conversion. Hinduism or Judaism does not have anything like this. They soley depend on population growth. Christianity has conversion, but – Christians are losing interest in church already. They only depend on designated recruiting agents for conversion. All these factors should be taken into account. 
 
Jiten Roy

 

From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] [Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner] TITLE

 
I think Dr. Roy is doing too much of an analysis here. Islam is the fastest growing religion because of excessive breeding by backward and irresponsible people. Look at any developed and educated society in the world; their birthrates are generally low. 


From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] [Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner] TITLE

 
We often hear - Islam is the fasted growing religion on earth, meaning Islam is the most popular religion on earth.
 
My first question is - why is that so, in spite of all negative publicity arising from the worldwide terrorisms commit mostly by the Islamist-groups? Second question is – does this growth represent a bright future for Islam going forward?
 
This is what I think. Islam is the latest major religion on earth, and it is still going through the rising evangelical renaissance, which most other contemporary religions have already gone through, and now either reached  at the plateau or facing decline due to lack of interest in them. So, I would not make wager on this growth, since the over all trend in the world is towards indifference of religious faith. It is not hard to see the difference between a religious and an irreligious people. We can look at religious people in Bangladesh and judge which way to take.  Many of their leaders are accused of crimes against humanity. Do we want more of them in the society? If you do, you must examine your head ASAP.
 
What say you?
 
Jiten Roy


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A book entitled "Islam Dismantled", written by Sujit Das, was published in
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examining and interpreting the information about the life and conducts of
Muhammad available in Qur'an, Hadith and other sources vis-à-vis information
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