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Monday, May 20, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] [Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner] TITLE



From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] [Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner] TITLE

 
I think Dr. Roy is doing too much of an analysis here. Islam is the fastest growing religion because of excessive breeding by backward and irresponsible people. Look at any developed and educated society in the world; their birthrates are generally low.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Islam is the fastest growing religion in the globe. Population growth is only part of it. Even in the west there is interest in Islam and tons of people are reverting (We don't call it convert, since it is the "Adi dharma") back to Islam. Also in Africa, China and many other parts of the world are seeing people joining Islam ignoring hate campaigns by Islamophobe bigots.

"Excessive breeding"? Yeah, this is not how a civilized person speaks.

I saw your futile attempt to justify "Excessive breeding" comment but you should consider the mass murder Hindus commit against girl children all over India (Killing fetus of girl child by abortion). Pakistan has a higher birth rate but Bangladesh has lower birth rate than India.

I generally don't comment on religious group but can you say Hindus are not backward or irresponsible? Only illiterate ignorant people would say things like it. Guess you can take the boy out of "Garbage" but cannot take the "garbage" out of the boy!!

There are quite a few Hindus who are reverting to Islam. I know a top business executive who reverted to Islam at least 15 years ago but waited 12 years long to make it official. He did not want to hurt his parents. However once his parents came to know about his choice, they disowned him right away (Very kind progressive people).

Let me share another stat about Christians. There are millions of full time missionaries (Official) all over the world calling people to Christianity. Muslims may have few hundred full time individuals, rest are volunteers. The biggest group who speaks about Islam (Tabligue) primarily (99.9 %) goes to Muslims to remind them about our religion. Since most Muslims do not practice Islam.

Also Jews do convert. Please do some fact checking before you share your opinions.


Shalom!


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From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2013 8:26 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] [Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner] TITLE

 
Here are some numbers for Dr. Roy. These are based upon my Google search for "Demographics of India/Pakistan/Bangladesh" and "Population of India/Pakistan/Bangladesh in 1950."

Within a span of 60 years (1951-2011 or 1950-2010), the population of India has grown by about 235%, and that of Pakistan+Bangladesh has grown by about 325%. Within a span of 25 years (1975-2000), the population of India has grown by about 63%, and that of Pakistan+Bangladesh has grown by about 79%. If you do your own search, you might find slightly different numbers. But the trend would be approximately the same.

What do these numbers tell? Assuming no significant migration between India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, the Muslim-majority east and west sections of the sub-continent have seen significantly higher population growth due to birth than the Hindu-majority middle section. Taking the migration of mostly Hindus from Pakistan and Bangladesh to India into consideration, the difference in population growth due to birth would be more significant between Muslims and Hindus.

Make your own judgement as to how many Hindus have converted to Islam in the subcontinent between 1950-2010 or 1975-2000. I bet that number would be tens of thousands at the most; I personally know/heard of only a few.

Conclusion: The so-called fast growth of Islam is mostly due to excessive breeding.

Having said the above, I agree with Dr. Roy, Hindus and Jews do not care to convert others to their respective religions; nor do they stop anyone from converting to other religions. On the other hand, Muslims not only want to convert others to their religion; they even pose the danger of death to people who want to convert from Islam to other religions. These factors, however, do not change the conclusion that "The so-called fast growth of Islam is mostly due to excessive breeding."

Sukhamaya Bain

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From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] [Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner] TITLE

 
Population growth may be partially responsible for the growth in Islam. Hinduism is probably growing pretty close to Islam due to population growth alone. I was pointing to the increased conversion rate in Islam.
 
Passion for religion among other groups is receding, but passion for Islam among Muslims is still vibrant. I think - this is because of the fact that Islam is the latest religion on earth. Islam provides handsome reward for Muslims who will recruit non-Muslims for conversion. Consequently, everyone of them is recruiting agent for Islam. This is not so in other religions. All these points need to be taken into account. 
 
Recently, there was a posting in the Mukto-mona, which you may have seen. I think the story was from France, where a minor Christian girl met someone on the web, and got converted to Islam over the phone. She eloped with that older man, and got married. There are organized efforts from mosques, targeting non-Muslim girls for conversion. Hinduism or Judaism does not have anything like this. They soley depend on population growth. Christianity has conversion, but – Christians are losing interest in church already. They only depend on designated recruiting agents for conversion. All these factors should be taken into account. 
 
Jiten Roy

 

From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] [Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner] TITLE

 
I think Dr. Roy is doing too much of an analysis here. Islam is the fastest growing religion because of excessive breeding by backward and irresponsible people. Look at any developed and educated society in the world; their birthrates are generally low. 


From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] [Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner] TITLE

 
We often hear - Islam is the fasted growing religion on earth, meaning Islam is the most popular religion on earth.
 
My first question is - why is that so, in spite of all negative publicity arising from the worldwide terrorisms commit mostly by the Islamist-groups? Second question is – does this growth represent a bright future for Islam going forward?
 
This is what I think. Islam is the latest major religion on earth, and it is still going through the rising evangelical renaissance, which most other contemporary religions have already gone through, and now either reached  at the plateau or facing decline due to lack of interest in them. So, I would not make wager on this growth, since the over all trend in the world is towards indifference of religious faith. It is not hard to see the difference between a religious and an irreligious people. We can look at religious people in Bangladesh and judge which way to take.  Many of their leaders are accused of crimes against humanity. Do we want more of them in the society? If you do, you must examine your head ASAP.
 
What say you?
 
Jiten Roy


From: Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner <charbak_bd@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 3:15 AM
Subject: [mukto-mona] [Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner] TITLE

 
Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner has posted a new item, 'ISLAM DISMANTLED &
DISMANTLING SUJIT DAS'

A book entitled "Islam Dismantled", written by Sujit Das, was published in
2012. In the book Sujit has portrayed Muhammad as a narcissist. He did so by
examining and interpreting the information about the life and conducts of
Muhammad available in Qur'an, Hadith and other sources vis-à-vis information
about narcissism/narcissists available in different sources. The [...]

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