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Friday, August 16, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] FW: মিতা হকের বাঙ্গালীয়ানা ও মরু-সাম্রাজ্যবাদ



You are  absolutely correct, Sir.
 
I read the poem 'Kalapahar' by Mohit Majumdar. I don't remember it, just remember that every 5th line (or so) it was just 'kalapahar!'
 
From Nazrul - '
Kotha Chengis, Gazni Mamud, Kothai Kalapar?
 Bhenge fel oi bhojonaloy-er joto tala dewa dar.
Khodar ghore ke kopat lagae ke dey shehane tala?
Sob dar er khola robe, chala haturi-shabol chala'
 
Kalapahar was from Orissa, His name before conversion was Rajib Roy (one of Satyajit's Feluda story - probably 'Royal Bengal Rohossyo' refers to him aj Raju) before conversion.
 
Anyway, Tarashankar's story 'Kalapahar' had nothing to do with this historical personality.
 
Thank you
 
 

From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:23 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: মিতা হকের বাঙ্গালীয়ানা ও মরু-সাম্রাজ্যবাদ
 
I think in college we had a poem on Kalapahar by Mohitlal Majumdar. Nazrul has also mentioned him in one of his poems. He was a cruel Muslim commander who destructed Hindu temples in India. Probably he was a convert from Hindu. Nazrul and Mohitlal both used him as a force that destruct the places of worship where hungry people have no access. Is it not a poem by Nazrul in which call has been made to Gengish, Mahmud of Ghazni, and Kalapahar to break the  doors of the masjid which refused food and shelter to a destitute. Please correct me if I am wrong. The issue is sensitive.  I am away from home and cannot verify. 
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On Aug 15, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Mahbub Kamal <mahbubk2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Agreed.
 
Fatemolla is his pseudonym. Mr Hasan Mahmud is a very cultured and progressive person. He does a lot of research and uses the findings to fight fundamentalists.
 
He writes well, recites extremely well and appreciates classical music. I am not sure why Dr. Bain made the remark that he is a molla.
 
BTW, only once I found something misleading in Fatemolla's writing. In one message he was writing about 'Kalapahar', the historical figure. In that message he mentioned that Tarashanker had written a story named 'Kalapahar', but he did not mention that Kalapahar was name of a buffalo in that story and had nothing to do with history.
 
Thanks

From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:04:32 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: মিতা হকের বাঙ্গালীয়ানা ও মরু-সাম্রাজ্যবাদ
 
"Fatemolla is a molla" - I also thought so long before.  But then I found him very progressive and well versed in religious traditions of Islam like Anwar Shaikh, a rioter turned apostate.  The world needs more of such persons.
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
I think Mita Huque should not have brought up any Bangalee vs non-Bangalee issue while talking about women wearing excessive body covers, due to their excessively religious brain-wash and due to the force and intimidation that they get from their male-dominated family/society. What about the non-Bangalee Indian and non-Indian women who do the same thing? 

Fatemolla is a molla, and he is very much restricted by his religious brain-wash (mollar dour mosjid porjonto).

The bottom line is, people need to be rational, religion or not. In the world of reasoning, a woman would look decent, not weird or indecent. In the world of reasoning, a society would be pervert, if they have to cover up their women too much to avoid being looked at like whores by the men. A civilized man should be able to work with a decently dressed woman without feeling an undue sexual urge. (Of course, in the Western world, it is OK to feel sexual urge if you see a well-displayed female figure as long as the act of sexual advancement is controlled.)

SuBain

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From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: মিতা হকের বাঙ্গালীয়ানা ও মরু-সাম্রাজ্যবাদ
 
I will not take Mita Huque's comment literally as it is too strong, unfounded, and confusing as well. But we all need to feel the pain she feels as a woman member of the society. That's why my appeal would be to look into the spirits of her emotionally charged outburst. From Hasan Mahmud's detailed and documented clarification it should be clear that the preachers of Islam (he mentioned some names) never recommended borkha. But our male chauvinist illiterate, half literate, and politically motivated mollahs are imposing borkha on the women of the less privileged section of our society. This borkha has not only created security and professional hazards, it has snatched away from the borkha clad woman all her freedom including the economic freedom. Hasan Mahmud also seems to have used a strong phrase i.e., "desert culture". He seems to be tired of fighting against the mollahs and their medieval religious doctrines most of whom also seem to be against the spirits of our great liberation movement
Let us take both Mita Huque and Hasan Mahmud literally. Let us rather use the gist of their thoughts to enlighten our women so that they can stand up against the mollahs for their total freedom.        

From: "mahfuzur@aol.com" <mahfuzur@aol.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: মিতা হকের বাঙ্গালীয়ানা ও মরু-সাম্রাজ্যবাদ
 
I do not think it is bullshit. ( I do not know why I hear such expressions at all.) I believe Hasan Mahmud has rather hit the bull's eye. It is not irrelevant to ask what is Bengali and what is not. Perhaps we have come to this pass because we fail to ask questions like this.
 
Mahfuzur Rahman 
-----Original Message----- From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 12, 2013 6:31 pm Subject: [mukto-mona] FW: মিতা হকের বাঙ্গালীয়ানা ও মরু-সাম্রাজ্যবাদ
 
Fatemolla (Hasan Mahmud of Canada)r bull shit.  It is dangerous at this juncture to pontificate on 'what is Bangalee' or what is not.  It creates the unnecessary binary opposition of Musulman v. Bangalee.  Yet, we know that it is a fact that there is no such thing as "non-Bangalee razakar".  The ones who are facing trial for crimes committed in 1971 at the Dhaka War Crimes Tribunal right now are all Bangalee.
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 06:16:13 -0700 From: hasan@HasanMahmud.com Subject: মিতা হকের বাঙ্গালীয়ানা ও মরু-সাম্রাজ্যবাদ To: srbanunz@gmail.com; nazrulic@gmail.com; manik195709@yahoo.com CC: khabor@yahoogroups.com; Miss_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com; farida_majid@hotmail.com
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