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Saturday, November 30, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] Angola Bans Islam, Destroys Mosques



I have a book named "Assassins". It is about an underground extremist group that used to operate in the Arab world 8th to 12th century. The group's mission was to kill the top leaders of the rival religious group. Every mission was like a suicide squad: get inside, kill, and kill yourself if got caught (getting caught was highly likely)

>>>>>>>>>> I can ONLY speak about what Islam, Islamic scripture and scholars of Islam agreed on. There are Muslims who have ten girl friends and wives. I have no wish to speak on their behalf. All I can say Islam does NOT support suicide.

Our well respected "Crack platoon" (during 1971) worked under similar (Not exactly same but similar) ideology. Which had few members who would try to attack bases and stronghold of Pak army. As far as I know 99.9% Bangladeshi (Muslim or otherwise) do not have any issues with that. During second world war there were many groups like it.

The problem is when biased authors infers something absurd from history to blame Islam for it.

It would be idiotic for me to challenge your morality or religion (If you were practicing Hindu) about Hindus who commit genocide against Buddhist population in India. 


Looks like your Islam is different from the Islam the terrorists are practicing.

>>>>>>>>>> Islam is a very structured religion. It is based on our scriptures ( The holy Qurán, Sunnah of the last prophet as primary sources). If anyone goes beyond these structures, you have to ask them to explain their action. Most Muslims work around these parameters.

I hope my answers were of some help.


Shalom!




-----Original Message-----
From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Nov 29, 2013 8:15 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Angola Bans Islam, Destroys Mosques

 
I have a book named "Assassins". It is about an underground extremist group that used to operate in the Arab world 8th to 12th century. The group's mission was to kill the top leaders of the rival religious group. Every mission was like a suicide squad: get inside, kill, and kill yourself if got caught (getting caught was highly likely)

I am not sure if the Islamic suicide bombers learnt it from the Hindu terrorists or not, but it should be recognized that Tamil suicide bombers did not target innocent civilians while Islamic suicide  bombers do not follow any such principle. 

Looks like your Islam is different from the Islam the terrorists are practicing. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 29, 2013, at 6:17 AM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

 
  Extremism was manufactured into Islamic communities. Specifically suicide is prohibited in Islam. Suicide bombing was introduced by HINDU terrorists in Sri Lanka and during 80s fatwas were collected to support certain POLITICAL ideology in Afghanistan.

Many Christians died during WWll lead by a fanatic name Hitler. Generally Germans are known to be very rational people.

Recently we observed fanatic Buddhists engaging in ethnic cleansing mission in Myanmar against native Muslim population. 

After WWll communist ideology justified murdering millions of people during cold war era.

While I am against violence in the name of religion. I am also certain Islam does NOT support killing innocent people or attacking civilians.

With due respect, I feel you should reconsider your opinion.

Shalom!



-----Original Message-----
From: ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Nov 28, 2013 9:00 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Angola Bans Islam, Destroys Mosques

 
I beg to differ with you, Mr QR. The fanatics in religions, particularly in Islam, are not few; they are in large numbers. Just look at Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and the list goes on and on, where you will find no end of people who are happy to blow themselves up (along with some innocent bystanders) and dream of going straight into heaven! In some Islamic countries you don't see the suicide bombers only because they can't get hold of bombs. Should they get the bombs, they would do the same. This is the reality of the present day.

So, trying to eliminate 'tiny fringe fanatics' is a non-starter - this 'tiny fringe' is in fact a 'large majority' because they consider it their religious duty.

- A Rahman


From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2013, 14:51
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Angola Bans Islam, Destroys Mosques

 
Wouldn't it be smarter to go after violent fanatics?

Most "Religious" people are neither violent or fanatic, so why should they suffer for a tiny fringe fanatics?

Shalom!


-----Original Message-----
From: ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 25, 2013 6:46 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Angola Bans Islam, Destroys Mosques

 
In some countries Islam will be banned, in other countries Christianity will be banned, yet in other countries Judaism will be banned and so on and so forth. As long as there competing religions in the world and people are fanatic, these things are inevitable. 

- A Rahman


From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2013, 1:28
Subject: [mukto-mona] Angola Bans Islam, Destroys Mosques

 

Angola Bans Islam, Destroys Mosques

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Sunday, 24 November 2013 00:00
http://www.onislam.net/english/oimedia/onislamen/images/mainimages/Angola%20Bans%20Islam%20Destroys%20Mosques.jpg
Last October, Muslims from the urban municipality of Viana, Luanda, attended the destruction of the minaret of their mosque Zengo.
LUANDA – According to several Angolan newspapers, Angola has become the first country in the world to ban Islam and Muslims, taking first measures by destroying mosques in the country.

"The process of legalization of Islam has not been approved by the Ministry of Justice and Human Rights, their mosques would be closed until further notice," Rosa Cruz e Silva, the Angolan Minister of Culture, was quoted by Agence Ecofin on Friday, November 22.
Silva comments were given during her visit last Tuesday to the 6th Commission of the National Assembly.
She asserted that the decision was the latest is a series of efforts to ban 'illegal' religious sects.
According to the minister, the action was necessary to fight relentlessly against the emergence of congregations whose worshipping is contradicting with the customs of the Angolan culture.
Same as Islam, other faiths which were not legalized will face closure of their houses of worship.
"All sects on the list published by the Ministry of Justice and Human Rights in the Angolan newspaper 'Jornal de Angola' are prohibited to conduct worship, so they should keep their doors closed," she was quoted by Cameroon Voice‏.
"In addition, we also have a long list of more than a thousand legalization applications," she added.

Recurrent
The anti-Islam comments were not the first by Angolan officials.
"This is the final end of Islamic influence in our country," President José Eduardo dos Santos was quoted by Osun Defender newspaper on Sunday, November 24.
Last October, Muslims from the urban municipality of Viana, Luanda, attended the destruction of the minaret of th


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