Border fence and even arm procurement often serve no better purpose than transaction of commissions. Through such fence tens of millions of holy cows are smuggled to feed people with Paki mindset. Thousands of poor women and other items are also smuggled through it. Historically wall and fence had served no purpose. Chinese wall did not prevent Mongolian invasion, Berlin wall had fallen apart, and I am sure barbed fence erected here would rust away soon. Radcliffe and others created a land which ultimately became Bangladesh. Average per capita income here is about half the subcontinental average while commodity price is about twice as high.
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So, Indians have been building the barbed wire fences only for decorative purposes while BNP/Jamatis hate any wall that separates them from nemesis India? Something does not add up with this flawed logic. The question is how many Indians have migrated to Bangladesh for better jobs and future?-SD"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss
On Monday, February 10, 2014 1:23 PM, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:
I want to respond to Shah Deeldar's comments on Bangladeshis leaving for India in droves in search of better life: "Many Bangladeshis are already crossing Indian border for a better life ". Here's what I wrote in 2012 in ALOCHONA discussion group:
I know this for a fact that the BJP and the Sang Parivar keep using these outrageously inflated no. of Bangladeshis in India as a part of their anti-Muslim propaganda. No one takes them seriously though. In fact, from time to time, progressive Indian journalists go out of their way to prove the Sanghis flat out wrong. This is also an anti-Bangladesh Sanghi propaganda in the sense that BD is supposed to be poor, and India is supposed to be a more developed country, hence the influx of starving Bengalis in rich India!
Funnily, most of the Hukka Hua gang of BD 'yahoogroups' communalist anti-India BNP/Jamaat bahini are parroting the same BJP/RSS Sang Parivar line! They repeat it ad nauseum. Sometimes they sound and act like the hired 'dharna' attendants and placard -bearers of the Sanghis. Oh! Poor little Bangladesh is being swallowed by big, evil, RICH India! The soppy-soppy self-pitying hides from view how un-little Bangladesh is. The world's seventh most populous country would be very hard to swallow by India, a country that is shamelessly unable to feed its own people due to sheer neglect and inefficiency!
The REALITY is that all international Human Development indicators are showing that Bangladesh is better off than India in many sectors, including food production, primary education for girl children, women in the work force, maternity healthcare and mortality rate, etc. Poverty and starvation in India has reached such a staggering proportion that last year's HD Indicators show India dropping below Sub-Saharan Africa's level. Just imagine!
Farida Majid
CC: bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com
From: shahdeeldar@yahoo.com
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 16:03:05 -0800
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] atrocities in PoK
There might be some truth in Dr. Das's prognosis. If we look at both Pakistan and Bangladesh's political culture and slow progress in wealth building since 1947, we can easily conclude that these two countries are still far away from the democracy and materializing their true potential. There will be a day when Islam itself would not be able provide any comfort to its blind subscribers and they might be totally envious of Indian progress and dynamism? With that they might take an about turn and may get on an Indian train or left behind in the darkness. Many Bangladeshis are already crossing Indian border for a better life. The question would be whether Indians would be ready for that challenge. If religious djinni is put back to the bottle, things may start looking different in the subcontinent? Who knows?
-SD
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss
On Sunday, February 9, 2014 1:22 PM, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:
Read how thirteen colonies grew into the mammoth called U. S. A., and you would have a clue to what I mean. Given that Hindu fanatics are no less dangerous than Muslim fanatics, a nation is not built of religious fanatics. All it needs is a contiguous land and common business interest, with the growth of China as a world power, India is bound to regain its former shape even if it takes a few decades. Probably you are not aware of the possibility of SARC nations being mould into a Federal state. In such a state, Z. A. Bhutto wanted to be foreign minister about four decades ago, while Bhasani opposed it due to his pro-Chinese politics.
Sent from my iPadI find most of Dr. Das's points quite flawed.Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan was a sensible man, and he wanted NWFP to be a part of the secular India, as opposed to the Islamic fanatic Pakistan. If his wish came to fruition in 1947, his people most likely would have been more civilized now, than what they are in reality now. However, looking at the reality on the ground, there is no reason to believe that the population of that land wants to be a part of India now.I believe Islam would keep the Pakistani provinces together for a long time. Even as I agree that Pakistan is destined to fragment, I believe that it would take a very very long time; just guess how long it would take to wash off the religious fanaticism from the heads of the people there. There is no shortage of Islamic fanatics in any part of Pakistan now. I am convinced that if East Bengal were a contiguous state to what is Pakistan now, there would be no Bangladesh today. East Bengal had enough collaborators in 1971 to keep the province with Pakistan, if the Pakistani military had convenient arms supply for them and for themselves.I do not believe India's leadership would be stupid enough to 'swallow fragmented parts' of what is Pakistan today. There is no vacant land to swallow; they would have to take in a lot of religious fanatics. No smart leadership would do that. And India has enough human right activists to stop anything like a mass expulsion of any kind of people from their homes, even if a crazy leadership (which is unlikely anyway) ever wanted to do that.SuBain=================================================From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] atrocities in PoKAll the rivers in Pakistan originate in Kashmir. Besides, Peswar led by Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan wanted to join India and Baluchistan wanted to remain Independent. Islam can not glue together the provinces of Pakistan, even Jiy
