Re: [mukto-mona] Khondoker was shopping around Park St on 16th Dec, 1971?

Saying Joy Pakistan is not the real issue here. Real issue is soft approach to Pakistan that continued for over three decades.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 14, 2014, at 12:36 AM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Well, this how lies become truth in a country where truths are not well guarded or defended with equal force and passion.

-SD

 

"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss

On Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:24 AM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I was there during the speech also, and never heard nothing about 'Joy Pakistan' at the end of his speech. How come nobody else, but Khondakar, among 20-30 thousand people in the meeting heard it? I am sure there must be a recorded version of the whole speech somewhere. Why is it not being circulated to put an end to all these confusions? 

Why don't Khondokar produce it to prove the validity of all his claims? Why don't Awami League produce it to prove that Khondakar is out of his mind, and he is saying all these to serve the interest of the anti-Mujib camp?

Until then, it does not matter who said it; this is only Khondaka's personal opinion from his recollection, just like me and others. The whole propaganda is about he-said, she said. I need proof.

Jiten Roy

On Saturday, September 13, 2014 9:20 AM, "nilu102@aol.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Everyone has freedom of speech. But it is deplorable when an individual, especially the sector commander, intentionally distorts one of the most momentous point of our liberation movement.

In 1971, I was a Master's student at Dacca University, residing at Jagannath Hall. I am so fortunate and proud to have been present at Suharawardi Uddayan on that historic day, 7th March, when Bangabhandu delivered his historic speech asking the nation to ready itself for independence. He finished his speech with the slogan 'Joy Bangla'. He never mentioned Joy Pakistan.

But Sector Commander, Air Vice Marshal A. K. Khondokar, Rtd.  (another Kkondokar, the other was Khondokar Mostaque) after 43 years states that Bangabandhu in his 7th March speech said Joy Pakistan. It is just to create a chaos and confusion to our true liberation history and to our new generation. This egredious lie indicates he joined to the conspirators or he is sold to petro dollars. But trueth can never be quieted.

Nabendu Dutta

-----Original Message-----
From: Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 12, 2014 7:19 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Khondoker was shopping around Park St on 16th Dec, 1971?

 

Sheikh Mujib was clear about country's independence before he surrendered, but he was totally blank about how the country got independence within just a few months. He had to learn it through briefings. This is the time person receiving briefing needs to be kept isolated for proper briefings. Probably, that was not done in case of Sheikh Mujib. As a result, everything started to go in the wrong direction.

People around him started to feed him concocted stories about the war of independence to mislead him. Sheikh Mujib was not a secular person, in the first place; he just pretended to be one for the sake of convenience. Islamists used his religious weakness, and complemented it with communal political ideals. He hurriedly joined OIC, and started to bring Mustaq Ahmed closer by pushing Taj Uddin away. Not only this, he started to push away the country that offered him the independence in a platter.

Thus, everything after the independence started to run based on falsehood. So, you are exactly right – most of those 'Bir-bikrams' or 'Bir-uttams' got their titles without ever firing rifles at enemies or flying fighter planes in the war of independence. These are the arm-chair generals; the real warriors never had chance to be within 100 feet of Sheikh Mujib. The history of Bangladesh is filled with falsehood.

Jiten Roy

On Friday, September 12, 2014 4:52 PM, "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Does it matter whether this 'Bir-Bikram' or any other 'Bir-Uttam' or whatever was shopping or not when Pakistani Army surrendered to the Indian Army? These 'Uttams' or 'Bikrams' are totally irrelevant or nonentities. Without India's help, these people would have been squashed as flies or ants by the Pakistani Army. Everybody knows that and they know that everybody knows. But nationally we pretend that these 'Uttams' and 'Bikrams' liberated the country and we place our achievements on these fake people, we say an utter lie that 3 million people died in the liberation war etc. It is a disgrace that lies and deceptions engulfed this nation right from its very birth and now it has flourished into a gargantuan size such that Bangladesh is always at the top of the league of corrupt nations.

So, whether these 'Uttams'; or 'Bikrams' were shopping in Park Street in Calcutta or Regent Street in London; whether the 'father of the nation' was seeping Earl Grey tea in his secure and luxurious wing of the prison in Pakistan, they are all irrelevant. Come clean and say that the country had been handed out to us by a foreign power and now we are messing it up to the maximum.

- AR

From: "Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Nuran Nabi <nurannabi@gmail.com>; Suhas Barua <suhasboston@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2014, 3:57
Subject: [mukto-mona] Khondoker was shopping around Park St on 16th Dec, 1971?

 

This is hilarious! Bir-Bikram was not even aware of the fact that Pakistanis were surrendering on 16th Dec? Park St was his battle ground? God save us from this old creep!

-SD 

http://www.thedailystar.net/letters/rewriting-liberation-war-history-40922

Letters To The Editor

Rewriting Liberation War history?

This is in reference to the controversy created by a book "1971: Bhetore Baire" written by Air Vice Marshal (retd.) A.K. Khondokar. It is a pity that since last 43 years, debates have been going on over the history of Liberation War, declaration of independence, etc. New historians are also being born to rewrite the history of Bangladesh and its War of Liberation. It is obvious that all this is being done to confuse the new generation of Bangladesh and there is a sinister force working to hold back Bangladesh from moving forward.

As for Air Vice Marshal (retd.) A. K. Khondokar, what I know is that on 16th December he was at Park Street in Calcutta when Pakistan army agreed to surrender. As most of the senior Bangladesh army officers were busy at war fronts, Indian army hurriedly located A.K. Khondokar and ferried him to Dhaka by helicopter to be a witness to the signing of the Instrument of Surrender. This was told to me by late Flt. Lt. Ahmed Reza who was a freedom fighter too. In the photograph of the signing of instrume