>>>>>>>>> Except Lord of the universe, no one can give your such "Guarantee"!!
I can share my personal observation here. All of my cousins are highly educated and lives many different parts of the world. When we were growing up NO one wear hijab and they thought only backdated or uncultured people would make to wear hijab. Today they are grown up with good education and most of them do wear hjab and NONE of them were forced. Specifically those who live in the west, they study Islam and most of their kids are also practicing Muslims. I am glad to report they are NOT hatemongers or anti-anything. They are simply interested to follow Islam as best they can. Albeit everyone knows it is not easy to be a practicing Muslima in the western world today.
Among my social friends, I see similar stories. Specifically highly educated people are taking new interest in Islam. It would be a wonderful thing if future "Islamic movements" are lead by highly educated modern Muslims. Traditionally (And sadly) most Muslims used to send the dumbest kids to study religion and smart kids were kept for making doctors, engineers etc. Now even smart professionals are interested in "Re-discovering Islam".
As far as summer heat is concern, it is a problem for people who do not observe hijab. So it is a matter of getting used to.
As far as I know, burqa was a sign of aristocracy as veil was. It was true for all cultures and religions. Hindu women living in towns or cities hardy wear veil now-a-days.
>>>>>>>>> You made a good point here. I watched a lecture on this topic by an Indian scholar. Who shown from Hindu scriptures that, veil is part of Hindu tradition as well. When I discuss this issue with my Christian friends, they said it used to be part of main stream Christians as well. If you look at any picture of "Mother Mary", you will see her in hijab.
I understand there are many women who follow popular culture. Well it is their choice. As I mentioned earlier, Malaysia is an Muslim majority democratic country (It is not perfect but doing well). Most Muslim women do observe hijab but it remains a personal choice for them.
Shalom!
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Even within Bangladesh there are many "Sub-cultures". In different families, regions we observe different norms regardless of religious backgrounds. If a graduate student thinks women should not take part in drama, let him make his case (I do not think it will be easy or even accepted by main stream). When we try to force people into our own norms, we can expect tension. However when we are able to debate or discuss our ideas freely, it promotes understanding and compassion among all people of faith (Or even people without faith).
Also culture and norms are not static. It is fluid. I was told by elders that, women of all faiths were much more restricted in the 50's in our country but today we have a women for our head of state. Despite being a Muslim majority country. Now we see more women with hijab in our country and thankfully (At least in Dhaka) they are not forced. They have taken the time to understand religion first hand and took it upon themselves to follow their faith completely. If you ask me, it is a progress (Much like Malaysia where everything goes).
Having respect for different and difficult ideas helps.
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These Bangladeshi Islamists have certain specialties of "Islamic" culture that are not noted elsewhere in the Muslim world. They will scream at you for being anti-Islamic if you do not pledge uncritical support for the atrocities against humanity and Genocide in 1971. You must also support the gruesome assassinations of political leaders including the President of the nation in 1975, otherwise you will be branded un-Islamic. Progressive-minded intellectuals who wanted to protest the insult to Islam (by depicting the obscene excesses of "Islam-lovers" in the name of religion) have been attacked by the Islamic culture-loving assassins. THAT is supposed to be "Islamic" culture. If you do not hurl insult at the President, Prime Minister, and the Cabinet of the elected Govt. and the current administation of your country on a regular basis in the most uncivilized, lewd language imaginable, you are to be blasted as an anti-Islamic person. If you want secularism in your constitution are branded as an enemy of Islam.
It is no wonder that the Pakistani politicians and intellectuals are realizing that so many of the wanton murders, cruelties and misogynist crimes in Pakistan would not have been committed if only the 1971 War Criminals were tried and punished for crimes against humanity in the name of Islam.
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Re: [mukto-mona] RE:" Nacho Bangladesh nacho " ( dance Bangladesh dance ) --why this now?
3. It has been said that religion is used as an opium. Can you guarantee that the women who are now wearing hijab are not under the spell of opium in the form of religion? Please put yourself in their shoes. Think about the summer heat and the humidity. Think about one's desire to look like a woman with nice and stylish clothings. I am aware about the differences between burqa and hijab and the former is more demanding.
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1. You are right. Healthy debates at all levels should be encouraged. Bangladesh has a great cultural heritage and tradition. You are also right when you say that stopping dance performance or acting by women will not get any support at all. These can only be stopped by resorting to Taliban style enforcement. That is my concern.
2. The young man I have mentioned did not have any problem in taking food in an "infidel's" house. But he was against women's acting in dramas. His religiosity and moral values together might have contributed to such a mindset. I hope he has changed his attitude by this time. He may be about 40 now.
3. It has been said that religion is used as an opium. Can you guarantee that the women who are now wearing hijab are not under the spell of opium in the form of religion? Please put yourself in their shoes. Think about the summer heat and the humidity. Think about one's desire to look like a woman with nice and stylish clothings. I am aware about the differences between burqa and hijab and the former is more demanding.
4. As far as I know, burqa was a sign of aristocracy as veil was. It was true for all cultures and religions. Hindu women living in towns or cities hardy wear veil now-a-days.
From: qar <qrahman@netscape.net>
In a "Free" country, people should be able to exchange different (Even difficult) ideas peacefully. As long we are not dealing with slander, distortion or hate mongering, we should be open to any new ideas. Non-violence should be promoted and different ideas should be welcomed.
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Pretty scary. A future Bangladesh to be ruled by people like Mr. Hannan and Mr. Anwar will be a nightmare. The progress that Bangladesh has made in the cultural front is exemplary. Even many in West Bengal sincerely believe that Bangladesh will be the last refuge of Bengali culture and language. They are concerned that Bollywood culture may gradually eclipse the true spirits of Bengali culture. Bangladesh also needs to worry about the same threat.
Looks like all the pogress made so far and the future prospect as well will go down the drain in the hands of this anti-culture group.
I met a youngman from Bangladesh about 15 years ago. He was here for a graduate degree. His father was a teacher in a Saudi university. This young man was a nice person. He believed that female roles in dramas or films should played by males.
From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
Moral preachings are done as if the Preachers are authorized by none other than Allah. Behind their loud preachings we only have to look at their "Islamic" practices -- encouragement of fatwa-zari for all kinds of mental and physical cruelties to women in the villages, systematic stalking and eve-teasing of school-going girls, organized acid throwing, organizing forcible hijabization of women nationwide, and in incidents of rape, blaming the victim for her "moral deprivation" rather than blaming the rapist for the crime. In fact, rape, used extensively as a war-weapon by the Jehadist razakars helping the Pak aggressors in 1971, is upheld as an "Islamic" culture.
From: nazrulic@gmail.com
Even today, you will see candle torching culture at Dhaka in Bangladesh. Does it fall in Islamic culture? Even in BD TV, you will see singing following/copying western songs. Those are destroying BD youth deviating from Islamic values. Thanks.
Mr. Abdul Hannan,
I agree with your comment.Those young girls who participationg in the so called "Nacho Bangladesh Nacho" are violating Islamic
teaching. Their Parents should discourage them from participation. In Islam gorls can't dance in Public, if they dance in front
of girls/women audience that may be accepted but in piublic it's not recommended.All non-islamic cultures destroying our
society. Now celibration of Valentine Day, Fathers Day ,Mothers Day became very popular in Bangladesh ,whicg\h went against Islaimc teaching.
In Islam everyday is Mothers day.
We muist discourage our next generation from participating such culture.
May Allah guide those girls and their parents to his right patgh.
Sincerely,
M. Anwar
From: S A Hannan [mailto:sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com]
A television channel has organized a competition "Nacho Bangladesh nacho "(dance Bangladesh dance).In various districts this competition is being organized and final will be held in Dhaka.
Mostly young and youthful girls are participating in this. Why this is being done? Such girl dancing in public has never been a feature of Muslim culture any where in the Muslim world now or in the past. A few dancers here and there are not liked. I have no argument whether it is art or not but Islam has not permitted such show of bodies of youthful girls in public.
It has no benefit in this world or Akhirat.This is not essential for life. Some argue it is an exercise. There are better ways of exercise now. I ask you to think over it. Is it a new conspiracy to take us away from Islamic decency and morals?
Please write on this
Shah Abdul Hannan
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