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Friday, May 25, 2012

Re: [mukto-mona] RE: MuslimsTogether :: al Azhar confirms HIJAB is not a part of the religion---This is sheer propaganda. A statement of a Ph D thesis can not change the ruling of the scholars of all times.



Q. Rahman Said: "If you want to learn about Islam, kindly ask Muslims for it. As far as Hijab is concern, it is part of the Qur'an. For last 1400 years most scholars of Islam (Around 99%) agrees on Hijab requirement."
 

 

Expected answers from Muslims will not be any different from what you just said. I wanted to know the other side of the story, which can only be heard from a critic, not from a supporter.  If I want to hear criticism of Hinduism, I would rather go to a Muslim, not to a Hindu. Don't you agree? 

Of course – criticism of a critic may not always be accurate, which can be debated, but the criticism will be superior to the sugarcoated answer from a supporter.

As a critic, I think Hijab is a cultural object, not a religious issue at all. Remember - Allah did not invent clothing or dress. Clothing is the cultural development of humankind. Many people still live in the jungle; they wear almost nothing. That's how we came from God. Therefore, God could care less if we wear something or nothing on this earth. Obviously, you cannot envision this logic because of your faith. I have no such obligation, so I can see the logic very clearly.

I know – you will say – Hijab is good for the protection of woman.

This is not true at all. More you cover something, more you increase the attraction or curiosity at it. How many times have you seen sexual assault on women on the beach? How many sexual assault stories have you heard from people living in the nudist colonies? How many sexual assault stories did come out from the tribes living in the jungle? I can't recollect any. Can you?

Jiten Roy


--- On Fri, 5/25/12, qar <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

From: qar <qrahman@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: MuslimsTogether :: al Azhar confirms HIJAB is not a part of the religion---This is sheer propaganda. A statement of a Ph D thesis can not change the ruling of the scholars of all times.
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 25, 2012, 10:57 AM

 
Member Roy,

If you want to learn about Islam, kindly ask Muslims for it. As far as Hijab is concern, it is part of the Qur'an. For last 1400 years most scholars of Islam (Around 99%) agrees on Hijab requirement. Even those Muslima who do not observe hijab, even they know it is a requirement. In Bangladesh most women have the freedom to observe hijab or not observing it. But to say, it is not part of Islam comes from ignorance.

It is equally important to note, veil (Or Hijab) is one part of it. We have to keep our hearts pure and "Protected" to reflect true teachings of Islam. If someone wears cap or Hijab but wishes bad for his/her neighbor, he/she cannot be a good Muslim. If our non-Muslim neighbors are not safe from our greed, it is better not worry about Hijab. Also the very first "Hijab verse" speaks to Muslim men (Not women) asking to lower his gaze.



  Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.

[ Source: Al Qur'an 24:30]

And the following verse speaks to women...



  And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, .................................

[ Source: Al Qur'an 24:31]

Even the picture of mother Mary (Displayed by Christians all over the world) shows the veil over her head. Even other prominent religion speaks about veil as well. So it is not even unique requirement of Islam. This requirement also seen in other faiths but many do not practice it.

For those who want to practice Islam "Properly" should try to observe Hijab. If not at least be respectful to those who want to stay "Modest" in public.

Click on the link below to read an article on the topic.

HIJAB IN THE WORKPLACE



and a liberal western view on veil.

MY BODY IS MY OWN BUSINESS

By Naheed Mustafa




Shalom!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 8:13 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: MuslimsTogether :: al Azhar confirms HIJAB is not a part of the religion---This is sheer propaganda. A statement of a Ph D thesis can not change the ruling of the scholars of all times.

 
Dr. Das Said: " Mr. Hannan is advised to read the comments made by Aisha-bint-Talha regarding the matter."
 
How about rest of us? You are asking us to read the comment also? It would be appreciated if you could reveal the quote instead of making it a mystery for all of us. We intend to learn from one another. In lieu of that, it only becomes one to one communication as it has been in this case.
Thanks.
Jiten Roy


--- On Thu, 5/24/12, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: MuslimsTogether :: al Azhar confirms HIJAB is not a part of the religion---This is sheer propaganda. A statement of a Ph D thesis can not change the ruling of the scholars of all times.
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 24, 2012, 9:39 PM

 
Even children and grand children of the 'rightly guided Caliphs' were against using the hijab.  Mr. Hannan is advised to read the comments made by Aisha-bint-Talha regarding the matter.

2012/5/24 S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
 
 
This is sheer propaganda. Please give us the whole Ph D thesis for checking. A statement of a Ph D thesis can not change the ruling of the scholars of all times.
Who are these people of WMC? What is their interest?
 
Shah Abdul Hannan

From: WorldMuslimCongress@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WorldMuslimCongress@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ISLAM
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:44 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: MuslimsTogether :: al Azhar confirms HIJAB is not a part of the religion
 
 
here is my humble interpretation:

Finally al Azhar clarifies its position and announces that hijab has nothing to do with religion

al Azhar's endorsed Sheikh Mustafa Mohamed Rashid's PhD thesis on Sharia and Law for which he obtained a grade of excellent, where he stated that hijab is not an Islamic requirement (fard), and that the interpretation (tafseer) of the verses (ayat) and the circumstances during which they appeared has led to the widespread misunderstanding about the so-called 'Islamic Hijab' denoting covering the head, of which there is absolutely no mention in the Quran.

Yet some have misconstrued the intent and correct interpretation of the Sharia, refusing the logic and sequence of its appearance, abandoning the proper methods of citing and interpreting of the verses (ayat), their historical background and reason for them.  They have done so either intentionally, or with good intention but with lack of the essential analytical savvy.

This hijab issue imposed itself on the Islamic and non-Islamic psyche, and thus becoming the defining factor, meaning, and nature of the Islamic faith to non-Muslims, which led some non-Islamic nations to consider it a divisive political statement.  In consequence to the resulting friction, some female students have been expelled from universities and jobs, only due to their adherence to this false belief, thereby attaching to Islam a non existent requirement.

So inconsistent and misguided have the proofs of the supporters of the hijab theory been, that it would sometimes take the form of khimar or jalabeeb, which distanced them from what they meant by head cover, which is indicative of their restrictive set of mind.

'Hijab' was mentioned in verse (ayah) 53 of al AHzab, where it signifies 'wall' or 'what prevents view' and it was in regards to pure "ummuhat al mo'mineen" where a "hajib" is to be placed between them and any men.

As for verse (ayah) 31 of Al Khimar - Sourrat al Noor, that is also a redundant claim, as the intent here is the cover of the breast and neck - the background here is the covering of the breast whose exposure is un-Islamic, and not what is now understood by hijab for the head.

And in regards to the historical background of verse (ayah) 59 of Sourrat al AHzab was to distinguish between the pure and the promiscuous whores and slaves.

Finally, in the mis-use of the Hadith about Asma'a, daughter of Abu Bakr, when she walked in on the prophet (pbuh)s gathering, and he ordered her to not expose her face or palms - this Hadith is not a binding Hadith, as it is one of al AHaad and not one of the consistent, or the connected confirmed.


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Thu, 17 May 2012 18:33:05 +0200
 
 
 
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الازهر يؤكد : الحجاب ليس من الدين

الخميس 17 مايو 2012   12:20:02 م
أخيرا حسم الازهر موقفه ..
وأعلن صراحة ان الحجاب ليس من الدين فى شىء ..

موافقة الازهر على هذا الرأى جاءت فى منحه درجة الدكتورة للشيخ مصطفى محمد راشد في الشريعة والقانون بتقدير عام امتياز،فى رسالة قال الشيخ مصطفى فيها ان الحجاب ليس فريضة اسلامية..

وان تفسير الايات بمعزل عن ظروفها التاريخية، واسباب نزولها قد ادى إلى فهم مغلوط شاع وانتشر بشكل كبير حول ما يسمى بـ«الحجاب الاسلامي!»، والمراد به غطاء الرأس الذي لم يذكر لفظه في القرآن الكريم على الاطلاق

الا ان البعض قد اختزل مقاصد الشريعة الاسلامية وصحيح التفسير ورفض إعمال العقل في نقله وتفسيره، وأورد النصوص في غير موضعها وفسرها على هواه، مبتعدا عن المنهج الصحيح في التفسير والاستدلال الذي يفسر الآيات وفقا لظروفها التاريخية وتبعا لأسباب نزولها، إما لرغبتهم وقصدهم ان يكون التفسير هكذا، واما لحسن نيتهم لأن قدراتهم التحليلية تتوقف إمكانات فهمها عند هذا الحد لعوار عقلي أو آفة نفسية.


باتت مسألة «الحجاب!» تفرض نفسها على العقل الاسلامي وغير الاسلامي، وامست مقياسا وتحديدا لمقصد ومعنى وطبيعة الدين الاسلامي في نظر غير المسلمين مما حدا ببعض الدول غير الاسلامية الى اعتبار «الحجاب!» شعارا سياسيا يؤدي إلى التفرقة بين المواطنين والتمييز بينهم، وقد حدثت مصادمات، وفصل من الجامعات والوظائف بسبب تمسك المسلمة بفهم خاطئ لما يسمى «الحجاب!»، وتحميل للاسلام بما لم يأت به من دعوى انه فريضة اسلامية.

جاءت ادلة من يرون فرضية «الحجاب!» متخبطة وغير مرتبطة، مرة بمعنى الحجاب، وتارة بمعنى الخمار، واخرى بمعنى الجلابيب، وهو ما يوضح ابتعادهم عن المعنى الصحيح الذي يقصدونه وهو غطاء الرأس، وانهم يريدون انزال الحكم بأي شكل لهوى عندهم، وقد ورد ذكر «الحجاب!» في الآية رقم (53) من سورة الاحزاب، والمقصود به الحائط أو الساتر، وهو متعلق بأمهات المؤمنين الطاهرات المطهرات ووجوب وضع ساتر بينهن وبين الرجال من صحابة رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم، اما الاستدلال بآية الخمار التي وردت في سورة النور في الآية رقم (31) فهو أيضا استدلال باطل لأن المقصود بها وجوب ستر النحر وهو اعلى الصدر وستر العنق ايضا، وعلة نزول تلك الآية الكريمة، تصحيح وتعديل وضع خاطئ كان سائدا وقائما وقت نزولها وهو كشف صدر المرأة وهي صورة يرفضها الاسلام ومن ثم قصدت الاية تغطية الصدر وليس غطاء الرأس كما يسميه الناس الآن «الحجاب!».

اما الاستدلال بآية الجلابيب التي وردت في سورة الاحزاب في الآية رقم (59)، فإن سبب نزول الآية ان عادة النساء وقت التنزيل كانت كشف وجوههن مثل الإماء أو الجواري، فكان بعض الفجار يسترقون النظر إلى النساء فنزلت تلك الآية لتضع فارقا وتمييزا بين الحرائر والإماء الجواري حتى لا تتأذى الحرة المؤمنة العفيفة.

واخيرا استدلال البعض بحديث أسماء بنت ابي بكر رضي الله عنهما عندما دخلت على رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فأمرها بأن لا تكشف الا عن وجهها وكفيها، كدليل على فرضية «الحجاب!» أي غطاء الرأس، فهو استدلال لا يعتد به لأن هذا الحديث من احاديث الآحاد، وليس من الاحاديث المتواترة أو المتصلة السند، لكنه حديث آحاد لم يتصل سنده بالعدول الضابط
 



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