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Friday, May 25, 2012

RE: [Ovimot] Re: [mukto-mona] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Dilip Barua



Dear Shah Dildar:
 
Why can't you be civil? Is it a very difficult job? (period)
 
Taj Hashmi
 
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 08:45:22 -0700
From: shahdeeldar@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Ovimot] Re: [mukto-mona] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Dilip Barua
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Brother, have your head checked before you go any further! Do you understand what we are discussing? Mr. Bahar could not even answer a simple question that he, himself raised and now, you come no-where and bring another issue. Are you nuts?
Read Bahar's first post and my question thereafter! 
This is not a kindergarten for BNP/Jamatis! Try to improve you logical thinking and to-the-point answers. It is priceless!
-SD 
 
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
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Subject: Re: [Ovimot] Re: [mukto-mona] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Dilip Barua

Dr. Abid Bahar is absolutely right in repeating that adjective in order to press home his very sensible and logical point. His repetition is qualitatively different from Hasina's parrot public repetition of false accusations against BNP, especially the CTG-related psycho-sexual phrase of "koley tuley," from where it was picked up and rightly elaborated upon by the bold and courageous and heroic BNP MP Rehana Akhtar in the Parliament and the immature and incompetent Dipu Moni completed the cycle by throwing the phrase in the Red Light District, which, to the utter delight of all quarters, bounced back on her. Good for her (DM) and cheers to Rehana Akhter! Only after that, Hasina'pa stopped. It was a great performance by RA.

Yes, time is overdue to go after Indian Razakars, who're destroying Bangladesh by turning it into a vassal state like Nepal and Bhutan. 
If Paki Razakars wanted one Pakistan, Indian Razakars have been trying to make it one India. They must be apprehended.

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mr. Bahar,
You repeat five times my "unintelligent" question and yet, I do not find an iota of intelligence in your answer. When a man/woman repeats the same question again and again without answering it, what we call him/her? I hope you get my point. If not, ask a friend!

You can carry on talking about Dadas, Mujib, Zias and your own dubious political experience but that is totally irrelevant to my question. It is not a polite practice to ask a question when one knows the answer. But, I had to that to see how much nonsense you can spew out. Yes, we, all know the answer. Mr. Bahar, if RAW wants to eliminate our notorious criminals tomorrow, it will take no more than tomorrow's time. But they won't. Nor, they should be permitted to do that as long as AL there in power. They have not thrown any grenade in any public meetings yet. No matter how bad these people (your so called true patriots) are, we need to deal with them directly and firmly.
-SD
 
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
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Subject: Re: [Ovimot] Re: [mukto-mona] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Dilip Barua

                           Razakari of the Past vs. the Present: Pakistani vs Indian

Mr Dildar,

You wrote to me:
 "How come the 71's genocide criminals are still at large and protected by BNP and Jamat? Would not these people be RAW/AL's prime targets? They seem to be doing pretty OK! Still, oiling their facial hairs and tormenting minorities in many parts of Bangladesh."

My general answer to your not so intelligent question:  Please ask your master RAW/ AL leadership for specific answers to these questions.

Your question:
"How come the 71's genocide criminals are still at large..."

 I suspect it was because of Mujib giving them general amnesty. Now why he gave them amnesty? I believe,  razakars were not punished by him because, Mujib himself had an inferiority complex that after the 7th March " if speech" "Jodi akta guli pore" he continued negotiation, and records show until the last moment tried for confederation. True, Kamal Hossain was waiting for a phone call from the generals, which never came. American classified documents also show Mujib wanted confederation. 

While there was genocide going on in the country, mysteriously Mujib's family was saved, fed by the Pakistani military. Hasina survived by the razakari money and food provided by Pakistani Generals. Mukul Chowdhury wrote: Mujib always possessed an inferiority complex. Now Mujib's amnesty to the razakars was perhaps because he thought, his role in the liberation was also not very clear.

Abul Mansur Ahamed, the historian, (the father of Daily Star's editor Mahfuz Anam) characterized Mujib's arrest as a shameful surrender. Ask Kamal Hossain, the man in black to answer your question what were the reasons behind Mujib giving amnesty to the razakars. After the independence every Bangladeshi wanted razakars to be tried. Why Mujib did otherwise.

Hero-worshipping
My advice to you ( Mr. Dildar) is to read and think about it. You seem to be a Mujibbadi suffering from the hero worshipping amnesia. You see many years ago I was a Mujib follower. I began politics as a Chatro Leaguer then left for Moni Sing communist group. During the liberation war for our underground activities, I was chased by razakars then left Bangladesh for Mizooram. One Jahangirnagar University rapist doctor now an AL advisor in USA born after 1971 calls people like us opposing the AL fascism as being razakars. Ofcourse some ALs call Zia as razakar and Hasina as the Mujib konna automatically a freedom fighter.
 
Razakar as freedom fighter
The razakar leader in my area who helped the Pakistani militray burn down Hindu houses, I suspect he also raped some Hindu women, who with his gang tried to kill me surprisingly got his freedom fighter certificate immediately after the independence. You know that Hasina's daughter Potul's father in law is a razakar. If you have connection, ask Hasina the same question you asked me. You know that if you ask Hasina an unflattering question, she is going to kick you.... Don't forget she is the daughter of Bangladesh's fascist Sher Mujib. I personally saw Mujib becoming very rude to a person who asked him a question he didn't like.

Your question"  Why? "Would not these people be RAW/AL's prime targets?"

My answer: Please ask your boss the RAW people they should have the answer for you.

Your question: " How come the 71's genocide criminals are still at large and protected by BNP and Jamat?"

My answer: Mujib and  Zia both thought the country is liberated and people should go back to work.

 Zia went a bit further, he coined the term, "Bangladeshi" "Amera Bangladeshi" him like a surgeon clearly separated Bangladesh first from Pakistan by declaring the independence, then separated from our " full of praises and promises Bengali and Indian dadas (big brother) by saying." We Bangladeshis have a territory, a country and a flag, we are Bangladeshi." He logically wanted to see the welfare of Bangladeshis only (not at all our Bengali dada Indians.)
 
Now I am answering your question in detail. "How come the 71's genocide criminals are still at large and protected by BNP and Jamat?"
 Zia saw in the razakars (who were previously given amnesty by Mujib) the potential of  future Bangladeshi patriots.

While Zia saw everybody living within Bangladesh as potential patriots ready to give their lives for the new country, some extremist ALs under the influence of Indian dada politics in Bangladesh continued to see in Bangladeshis divided as Bengalis vs razakars.  These razakars instead of sacrificing their lives for Bangladesh, they are ready to die for Indian interest in Bangladesh. This is wrong. That is why we call your type of people as the "Indian razakars."

  I hope your true name is Dildar, but if you are Syed Aslan4, I understand the reasons for your pain, because I am sure you see in my analysis the shattering of your West Bengali understanding of Bangladesh politics. You see we know why after 41 years your type of people still have heart burning pain about the 1971 razakars in Bangladesh, because you are the new and emerging "razakar."

While Pakistani razakari hurt out past, your Indian razakari is going to hurt our present. You are going to hurt the economy, politics, our water, land and the democratic development in a country we fondly call "Our Bangladesh!"

"If you have any further intelligent question only please let me know.
AB 

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:
I do not know what is your problem? You bring a different issue without answering questions regarding your previous RAW issue. Let me ask you again. How come the 71's genocide criminals are still at large and protected by BNP and Jamat? Would not these people be RAW/AL's prime targets? They seem to be doing pretty OK! Still, oiling their facial hairs and tormenting minorities in many parts of Bangladesh.

On your second issue, you want Indians to adopt an open border policy with us like EU? Would that please you if they really adopt that policy? Why not BNP and Jamat ask for that favor rather than having constant tantrum of sovereignty issue. Yeah, include Pakistan too! I am sure Indians would love that. The undivided India to be born again?  
-SD
 
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Subject: Re: [Ovimot] Re: [mukto-mona] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Dilip Barua


Weekly  BUDHBAR  report:



http://budhbar.com/?p=7445

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com> wrote:

Ashraful's comments irresponsible: citizens

Ashraf, Hasina's amba Minister
 It is time that I should let people know who I am
My wife is a Hindu- Ashraf.
But who are you?-Journalist
I am not a Muslim
OK who are you?
I am not a Christian.
Ok who are you?
I am amba.
Who are you?
I am amba.
What? Who are you"
I am amba, amba
You mean you are a cow?
I am amba.
You are a cow!
Amba Amba Syed Nazrul Islam
Stop doing that!
Ambaaaaaaaa!
Oh my god, this is a BKSALITE COW!

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Politicians, academics and rights activists have termed 'irresponsible' the comments of local government, rural development and cooperatives minister Syed Ashraful Islam on the border killings by the Indian Border Security Force.
It is the state's constitutional obligation to protect its citizen and if the state says it is not worried about the killings of its citizen, it means the state is unprotected and insecure, they said in their reaction to Ashraful's comments on the border killings.
Ashraful, also the Awami League general secretary, said on Saturday that the state was not worried over the killing and torture of Bangladeshi nationals by BSF along the border.
In the latest such incident, a Bangladeshi national was shot dead and three others were injured by the BSF in Dhannyokhola frontier of Benapole on Saturday.
The New York-based Human Rights Watch said that the BSF had killed some 1,000 Bangladeshis over the last decade.
'Ashraful's comments are not in line with the government's policy. The government has already protested at killing of Bangladeshi citizens by the BSF. It worried the government and so it reacted,' said Workers Party lawmaker Rashed Khan Menon, an ally of the ruling Awami League.
He said that it was state's constitutional obligation to protect its citizens.
The state cannot avoid its responsibility, Menon said.
Rights group Ain o Salish Kendra executive director Sultana Kamal said, 'Such comments are not acceptable. It is the state's responsibility to look after everything. It cannot say it has concern for something and not worried about other things.'    
Awami League leader Amir Hossain Amu and Tofail Ahmed, however,  declined comments on the issue.
When asked about his reaction, Jatiya Samajtantrik Dal president Hasanul Haq Inu said, 'The state cannot take these killings lightly.'
He said that the explanation given by the Indian authorities on the border killings was not acceptable and the government should take these incidents very seriously.        
Jatiya Party leader Anisul Islam Mahmud said that in an independent and sovereign country, killings of its citizens on borders should worry the government.
'The government should also take steps so that border killings do not take place in future,' he said.
Human rights organisation Odhikar's secretary Adilur Rahman Khan termed Ashraful's comments irresponsible. 
'We did not expect such remarks from a responsible person like him,' he said. 
Adilur said the comments would encourage BSF and the Indian authorities to continue their atrocities and aggressive attitude towards Bangladeshi nationals.   
Economist and social activist Anu Mohammad said, 'He [Ashraful] should have rather said that the government has no concern for its citizens. It is unfortunate that many such killings are taking place but the government is silent.'
He said that the present government did not even hesitate to destroy a river in Bangladesh for India's benefit.
'If the government is not worried about the killings of its people, then the state is unprotected and insecure,' he added.   
Dhaka University's international relations professor Imtiaz Ahmed termed Ashraful's remarks extremely irresponsible. 'Who will protect the citizens if it is not the state's responsibility to protect them,' he wondered.

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't blow it up, India says on BSF torture


With a video footage showing Indian border guards brutally torturing a Bangladeshi still a major topic of talks across the country, India on Saturday said the media should not "blow it out of proportions". "Such incidents often take place at the border. There is no need to blow them out of proportions," Indian Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee told reporters in Kolkata.
http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/latest_news.php?nid=35268
Govt unperturbed by border development: Ashraf


While attacks on Bangladeshis continue near the Indo-Bangla border, LGRD Minister Syed Ashraful Islam said on Saturday that the government is not worried over the developments. "The government cannot put aside everything and only think about what's going on there on the border," Ashraf, also the general secretary of ruling Awami League, told hours after BSF gunned down another Bangladeshi cattle trader.
http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/latest_news.php?nid=35264
In a tone quite similar, Indian Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee and Bangladesh LGRD Minister Syed Ashraful Islam yesterday downplayed Indian border guards' torture of a Bangladeshi citizen near the border.While Mukherjee asked the media in Kolkata not to blow it "out of proportions", Ashraful in Dhaka said his government is not "much worried" about such incidents along the Indo-Bangla border area.
Their statements came after the footage of a Bangladeshi cattle smuggler being stripped and tortured by, what appeared to be, Indian border guards in Murshidabad was shown by several media. Yesterday, Indian Border Security Force shot dead a Bangladeshi in Benapole of Jessore.
Hot on the heels of an outcry over the brutality shown in the footage, the Indian finance minister told reporters, "Such incidents often take place at the border. There is no need to blow them out of proportions." Mukherjee said the governments of India and Bangladesh would resolve the issue through discussion, reports our New Delhi correspondent.
According to the victim, Habibur Rahman, a 22-year-old cattle smuggler from Chapainawabganj, BSF men in uniform stripped and tortured him on December 9 last year as he refused to pay them a bribe.The video clip, which was aired on some Indian TV channels, including NDTV, earned strong criticism of the BSF personnel from people in both countries. The BSF authorities have already suspended eight of its personnel in connection with the incident and ordered a fully-fledged probe.Bangladesh has already protested the "violent action" by BSF and urged India to thoroughly probe the matter.
Asked to comment on BSF's torture on Bangladeshi citizens, LGRD Minister Syed Ashraf yesterday said, "Many such incidents are taking place in the bordering areas of the countries--cattle lifting, drug smuggling and many other things. This is nothing new. These happened in the past, are happening now and will also happen in future."
Ashraful was talking to reporters after inaugurating the orientation programme for the newly appointed zila parishad administrators in the capital. His statement drew flak from opposition BNP. "Cattle lifting, drug smuggling and many other crimes take place in border areas. We hear about these from people who live along the border and also from those who live elsewhere."
Asked if torture and killings at the border were provocative, he said, "The state is not too much concerned about it. It is not right that the state shall focus only on these issues, leaving aside all other businesses."
However, BNP acting secretary general Mirza Fakhrul Islam Alamgir yesterday criticised Ashraful's remarks about the government not being worried. "Fie on Syed Ashraf! Fie on the government which has failed to ensure security of the people and to raise any protest against the incidents," said Fakhrul during a discussion at Diploma Engineers Institute in the capital."Our brothers are being killed one after another continuously. Felani's body was hung to the fence. But our government is silent," he said. Because of the government's subservient policy, the country's sovereignty has been compromised, he claimed.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com> wrote:

BSF guns down another Bangladeshi

Indian Border Security Force (BSF) allegedly shot dead a Bangladeshi cattle trader along Dhannokhola frontier of Benapole in Jessore early Saturday.Our Benapole correspondent identified the deceased as Rashedul Islam, 25, son of one Mosharraf Hossain of Matipukur village in Sharsha upazila.
Hasan Hafezur Rahman, officer-in-charge (OC) of Benapole Port Police Station, said the BSF troops of Indian Shuta camp in 24 Parganas district of Paschimbanga opened fire on Rashedul when he was returning to Bangladesh territory from India with cattle around 5:00am.
Rashedul died on the spot, the OC said.
On information, Benapole port police rushed to the spot, recovered the body and sent it to Jessore General Hospital morgue for autopsy.
The killing came when tension is prevailing between the two neighbours following the release of a video clip that pictured some BSF men brutally torturing a Bangladeshi citizen in Murshidabad district of Paschimbanga.
The video clip which was aired on some Indian TV channels, including NDTV, showed the footage of men in BSF uniform stripping and torturing the Bangladeshi national on January 9.
The nearly five-minute video footage,whose source and authenticity could not be ascertained immediately, showed that the victim was pushed to the ground with his hands and legs tied while three to four men in BSF uniform stripped and tortured him. The Bangladeshi man was tortured as he allegedly refused to pay them a bribe.
The authorities of Indian border troops on January 18 suspended eight jawans following the brutality.








On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:
Another baloney from Mr. Bahar as usual with no rationale, reference or evidence. The man sits in his airtight bunker and babbles as if we are his students with no analyzing capacity.  Only thing one needs wonder why the war criminals and their cohorts are still alive and roaming freely around in Bangladesh? Why have not they been poisoned or killed by RAW agents? Come on, forty years on and nobody can find even a little trace of poison in those people' blood? How odd!  It looks like RAW agents are bunch of amateurs, who lost their way in treacherous jungle of Bangladesh? Give me a break, Mr Bahar! Try something better!
-SD
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
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Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Ovimot] Re: [mukto-mona] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Dilip Barua

INDIA PRACTICING ARTHOSHASTRA WITH HASINA IN BANGLADESH
Abid Bahar

When you read Arthoshastra you will find it saying:

1. Get local agents for concealed and secret war: a) to exploit internal divisions; and recruit b) the seducible through endearments and gifts, and c) the not-seducible by exploiting their disagreement and discord and applying threat, even force.

2. Employ local agents for a) assassinating leaders; b) creating divisions within the body politics; and c) spreading propaganda and disinformation.

 Pronob Mukherjee, the Brahmin dada brings expensive Indian Saree for Hasina, Dipu and Sahara and lots of promises about Tista and at the same time sends "10000 crusaders" to kill and abduct opposition members.


References:
M. Abdul Mu'min Chowdhury,PhD Lessons From Arthashastra
 
Jessica Fox, The Bengal Tigers in the R&AW cage R&AW trained Crusader 100 in action in Bangladesh, Sri Lankan Guardian, April 23, 2012,
 


On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net> wrote:


All Baksalis changed their behaviour toward only Bangladeshi Noble winner Dr. Yunus since Hasina zealously underrmining his achievments. Overnight all Baksalis(Inferrior than Khekshial I believe)
started crticizing Dr. Yunis like Hukka Hua . Threee are some intelligent Awami supporter who ne ver criticize Dr. Yunus like Hasina and her blind supporters are doing, I salute theiur coiurage, I don't
want to name them because Hasina may punish them for their silence.
Dr. Manik is new Baksali and doing his job to satisfy/please his Netri in all opportune moment. They will never change.
 

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Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Dilip Barua
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 07:21:10 -0700 (PDT)

 
Thank you Deeldar bhai for your prudent comment . My friendly advice ,  just ignore Mr. Anwar ! His IQ level is below par and he does not fit to exchange views with us !!
Dr. Yunus is the only Nobel winner who did not contribute any prize money for charity .
Regards,
Dr. Manik
 

Well, I was only trying point at Mr. Bahar's unintelligent joke. But, you seem to have another agenda with superhuman Yunus. No, I do not buy that at all. Dr. Yunus is just another economist, who happened to coin the name Grameen Bank. The name is a good sound bite but it practice, the bank is not any different from any other lender bank. The lending interest is pretty stiff and the bank has failed to deliver what it initially promised. The poorest of poor need zero interest rate and not a 25% rate. This not a Baksal or BNP/ISI issue.
Yunus is not a God and nor he should be beyond of any critic. A Norwegian  peace Nobel prize does not make anybody super human. 
-SD
 
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS

Those who criticize Dr. Yunus, they are not even compared to his nail, that's hundred percent true. Dr. Yunus does not need recognition
from Baksalis, World recongnize his ability and quality. Dilip Barua can't even win a unuion council membership election and has quality
to be a descent politician.He just wanted to please his boss Sheikh Hasinawho gave him new life with a Ministerial job (his drream of life).
He is just paying the debt to his Netri .Mr. Barua's comment  should be condemned by civil society.
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To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: [notun_bangladesh] Dilip Barua
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 21:01:08 -0000

 
Hardly any witty joke! Please confine yourself to write your opinions rather than ants/elephants stories.
The problem with Dr. Yunus is that he should stay above the politics than wrestling with politicians. It is a poor choice from his side. Good day to you!
-SD

--- In mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, Abid Bahar <abid.bahar@...> wrote:
>
> Joke: An Elephant and Hasina's Dilip Barua in a soccer game!
>
> Abid Bahar
>
> It was a boring Sunday afternoon in the jungle so Hasina the leader of ants
> decided to challenge the Elephants to a game of soccer. The game was going
> well with the Elephants beating the Ants ten goals to nil. The Ants' star
> player Barua was dribbling the ball towards the Elephants' goal; Ashraf was
> next to Barua. Sadly, the Elephants leader Yunas's' left back came
> lumbering towards Barua. It trod on the little ant, killing him instantly
> and the excited Ashraf seriously injured. The referee stopped the game.
> "What the do you think you're doing? Do you call that sportsmanship,
> killing and injuring other players?" The elephant replied, "Well, I didn't
> mean to kill him; I was just trying to trip him up."
>
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@...>wrote:
>
> > Mr.Dilip Barua has been foing left politics for long. But he can't even
> > win a Union Council Membership vote. I can challenge that.
> > I don';t know whjayt quailfy him to become a full minister in Hasina's
> > digital cabinet. In a sense he is an 'othorbo' minister.
> > He doesn't even know how to offer political speech. What is his Mamur jor
> > ? After becoming he thnks himself as"Ami Ki Honu
> > Re". Even he can't become a clerk of the Industry Ministry without any
> > recommendation from Mamu(Uncle)
> > How dare he compares himself with a noble laurate who earned his Doctorate
> > from a prestigeous U.S. University.
> > He should nbe ashamed of his comment about honorable Dr. Yunus and
> > apoligise as soon as possible.
> > It is understandable that he, did such coimment to please his Netri. In
> > doing so he even betrayed his party 'Sammyobadi Dol" the
> > party has no single member in Bangladesh Parliament ever.
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: Isha Khan <bdmailer@...>
> > To: undisclosed-recipients:;
> > Subject: [notun_bangladesh] Dilip Barua
> > Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 12:57:53 +0600
> >
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > *Popularity? Ask Barua*
> >
> >
> >
> > It was none but technocrat Minister Dilip Barua who has urged Prof
> > Muhammad Yunus and Sir Fazle Hasan Abed to join politics to test their
> > popularity before speaking about the country's politics.
> >
> > He might have forgotten his own popularity, public support behind him and
> > tried to please the prime minister by blasting the two iconic characters
> > for their suggestions for restoration of caretaker government for peaceful
> > parliamentary polls at a meeting with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
> > in Dhaka.
> >
> > It is usual that Barua will remain grateful to Prime Minister Sheikh
> > Hasina as she made him a fortunate man. In his long political career, Barua
> > was never elected an MP and even could not contest the December 29
> > parliamentary polls in 2008 as Awami League had picked its own leader to
> > contest the battle of ballots from the constituency from where Barua sought
> > to contest.
> >
> > Hasina inducted him as a minister in her cabinet and gave portfolio of the
> > industries ministry, giving much priority over Rashed Khan Menon and
> > Hasanul Haque Inu, chiefs of Workers Party and Jatiya Samajtantrik Dal, two
> > components of the AL-led alliance.
> >
> > He does not face any difficulties to continue as a technocrat minister
> > thanks to destruction of the spirit of the original constitution of 1972
> > which would compel a technocrat minister to get elected as an MP within six
> > months of being sworn in.
> >
> > In return of the favour he got, Barua, chief of Bangladesher Samyabadi Dal
> > (M.L.), apparently tried to please the premier by blasting Yunus and Abed
> > in line with the ruling AL's stance against the caretaker government system
> > which was abolished last year.
> >
> > Barua on Friday just joined the chorus as before him Finance Minister AMA
> > Muhith and AL General Secretary and LGRD Minister Syed Ashraful Islam
> > bitterly criticised Yunus and Abed. And Muhith and Ashraf spoke in line
> > with the stance of Sheikh Hasina who earlier on several times criticised
> > Yunus.
> >
> > But the way the industries minister castigated Yunus and Abed and urged
> > them to join politics first to speak about politics looks indecent. Barua
> > might have forgotten his own popularity when he was throwing a challenge to
> > Yunus and Abed to test their popularity by stepping in politics.
> >
> > Since restoration of democracy in the country in 1990 through a mass
> > upsurge against autocratic ruler HM Ershad, Barua contested three
> > parliamentary elections. The Election Commission's reports on previous
> > polls speak the reality of his polls performances.
> >
> > He contested from Chittagong-1 parliamentary constituency on ticket of
> > Bangladesher Samyabadi Dal and bagged only 1,552 votes out of 129,105 votes
> > cast in 1991 parliamentary polls. The result? Barua's security deposit was
> > forfeited.
> >
> > He contested the 1996 parliamentary polls and obtained only 511 votes,
> > one-third of the votes he obtained in 1991. His security deposit was again
> > lost. He however did not feel frustrated with his performance. He contested
> > the 2001 polls from the same parliamentary constituency and bagged 307
> > votes, almost half he got in 1996.
> >
> > The results show how Barua's popularity declined in over two decades. But
> > he was fortunate as AL needed name of his party in its strategy to
> > politically isolate past BNP-Jamaat-led alliance and to wage street
> > agitations against the then regime.
> >
> > His life sketch posted on the industries ministry website proudly claims
> > he was one of the architects of the 14-party alliance led by AL. He was one
> > of the frontline leaders to launch movement against Khaleda Zia and Matiur
> > Rahman Nizami's government. The life sketch contains detailed information
> > about Barua's long political career since his student life. But it did not
> > cite any single information about his participation in the three
> > parliamentary polls and his performance in those battles of ballots.
> >
> > He might have felt embarrassed to cite the information in his life sketch
> > on his popularity test.
> >
> > http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=234218
> >
> > *I'm different than Yunus: Dilip hits back at Rafique*
> >
> > http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=234099
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=231152326994417&set=a.129085430534441.23963.100002989534098&type=1&theater
> >
> >
> > *Barrister Rafiq on Ministers.....*
> >
> > http://www.amadershomoy2.com/content/2012/05/12/middle0468.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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