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Saturday, May 11, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] Link between Racism (samprodayikota) and Stupidity



Hitler wanted to get rid of the Jews for many reasons. (i) The role of the German Jewish business magnets was anti state during the !st war, (ii) The Jews had plans to conquer Germany with Turk-Mongols, (iii) Most reputed German philosophers of reputation were anti Semitic, (iv) He was proud of his Aryan ancestry(though his mother had a Jewish lineage).  Had he not spent three precious weeks in his Yugoslavian expedition before crossing Russian border, history could be written differently today, we would be full of praise for him


On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

This is why I say – religious prejudice and belief block cognitive intelligence, and makes an otherwise intelligent person stupid. Racism is a prejudice also. For example, Hitler wanted to populate Germany with a pure breed of Germans. Such prejudice was his driving force in his mind when he first started mass killing of non-Germans. Such irrational thinking is a prime example of the blockage of cognitive intelligence.  Genetically, he was not born as an idiot, but - his racial prejudice made him one.

 

Jiten Roy



--- On Fri, 5/10/13, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Link between Racism (samprodayikota) and Stupidity
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 10:40 PM


 

Hitler was a product of the !st world war imposed by the arrogant British Empire on a rising Germany.  Whether he was an idiot or not may be left to another discussion.  However, it may be taken for sure that anyone who considers racial and religious divisions as the same is definitely a blockhead.  One such person initiated this dialogue.  For example, the Hefajot leader and the people he had fought belong to the same race and differ only in the degree of faith.  They belong to the same community, yet idiotic concepts of criticizing and defending a fifteen hundred year old 'god sent' religion had antagonized them.  If we consider 'hatred' towards other community as idiotic in spite of its misdeeds, most of the messiahs and prophets had that quality.  Hadn't they?


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

"it is plausible that cognitive intelligence could be blocked by the prejudice of racism"
Not proven as far as I can see. You could be an worst kind of bigot with very high intelligence. These two characteristics are not mutually exclusive . They are separable but also can coexist within the same individual.
In regards to Hitler, I say, he lost the war and hence history calls him an idiot. The man was not an idiot but mentally deranged with huge global ambition. He almost took over the whole Europe. If he had taken over, we would have called him something different. There were many Hitlers came before the German Hitler and they are treated as heroes and liberators for many folk groups and countries. Think about Mao, Stalin and Arabs/Christians with the daggers! One man's idiot is another man's hero?
-SD
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 10:23 PM

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Link between Racism (samprodayikota) and Stupidity

 
Competitiveness between two races or the pride of one's own race is not racism. Mental competence or physical skills in a particular race could be genetic in origin, but – it is plausible that cognitive intelligence could be blocked by the prejudice of racism. Otherwise, how do you explain the stupidity of Hitler? 

Jiten Roy


--- On Thu, 5/9/13, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Link between Racism (samprodayikota) and Stupidity
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>, "bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com" <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, May 9, 2013, 9:31 PM

 
I do not think there is any connection between intelligence and racism. Both are the products of our genes and nature. These are key ingredients of our human evolution and propelled us to have different societies with different achievements and  expectations. Without that we would have become an mediocre human species. The competition to outsmart others is still on whether we see it or not!  Our German brothers and sisters are highly intelligent  people but they are also very race conscious people like many of our African brothers and sisters.  How do we explain that anomaly?
-SD

 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Link between Racism (samprodayikota) and Stupidity

 
Racism is the communality against a race, and shamprodaikota is against a religious community. They are both communality. If racism leads to stupidity, the same will be the result of shamprodaikota.
 
This study found that – rightwing racism leads to stupidity. I can't disagree completely. Racism could block many of our cognitive intelligences due to prejudice and communality. But, that's not all. I have been saying this, for a long time, that - too much of religiosity will block many of our cognitive thinking abilities due to our religious prejudices. The effect is also the same on the other side of the spectrum. Extreme leftwing ideological belief could block our rational cognitive intelligence also, and lead to making irrational decisions, as did many communists leaders (Lenin, Khrushchev, Mao, Pol Pot, etc.). These leaders ended up killing millions of ordinary people in the name of revolution. Therefore, the safest place to be in - is in the middle of the spectrum, i.e., to be a centrist.
 
Jiten Roy

--- On Thu, 5/9/13, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Link between Racism (samprodayikota) and Stupidity
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 9, 2013, 5:55 AM

 
If somebody translates racism as samprodayikata, he/she exhibits
his/her moronic intelligence.








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