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Saturday, July 20, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] Goalm Azam will bring back Awami league in power!!



You have jumped to a conclusion which is wrong. I neither misunderstood nor tried to understand Mr. Bose's post. Initially I ignored it and did not make any comment on it. Re-read my response below which happens to be my first response on the debate. Now read my new response that I sent as my reaction to Bose's latest post:
 
"I don't understand what point Mr. Bose is trying to make. Has any one in the forum said that crimes of Gholam Azam are comparable to the crimes am committed by other criminals? Gholam  Azam is a criminal of the highest order. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 19, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Asoke Bose <anjbose@hotmail.com> wrote:

 
Please do not relate crime of Golam Azam and his allies with other criminals as two are opposite in  nature. Please try to understand the fundamental differences between these two concept of crimes.  
 
Crime of Golam Azam and his followers fall under this category:
 
In 1945, the United States and other Allies developed the Agreement for the Prosecution and Punishment of the Major War Criminals of the European Axis and Charter of the International Military Tribunal (IMT), sitting at Nuremberg, which contained the following definition of crimes against humanity in Article 6(c):
 
"Crimes against humanity: murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation, and other inhumane acts committed against civilian populations, before or during the war; or persecutions on political, racial or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated."
 
Golam Azam and his allies did the above mentioned crimes in 1971.
 
Crime as we are noticing in a society falls under the following category:
 
Legally, crimes usually are defined as acts or omissions forbidden by law that can
be punished by imprisonment and/or fine. Murder, robbery, burglary, rape, drunken driving, child neglect, and failure to pay your taxes all are common examples. This conception of crime explains the wide variety of criminal activity and the fact
that individuals tend not to specialize in one type of crime. It also is consistent with the
well-established tendency of people to be consistent over long periods of time in the frequency and severity of crimes they commit. Even executives who commit white collar crimes probably are more impulsive, self-centred, and indifferent to the suffering of others than those who do not take advantage of similar opportunities.
 
N:B: I have source for above mentioned writings.

Asoke"

From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Goalm Azam will bring back Awami league in power!!
 
Yes you misunderstood the post. It was a sarcastic post about Gulam Azam and many seems jumping on this member without understanding it. The poor man had to issue a clarification (Like I did many times). Moreover, it was totally immoral and unethical as well.
>>>>>>>>> Again maybe you missed out on the sarcasm part. The gentleman did not support Gulam Azam in any way. Shalom!

-----Original Message-----From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Fri, Jul 19, 2013 5:35 pmSubject: Re: [mukto-mona] Goalm Azam will bring back Awami league in power!!
 
1. It is now irrelevant to criticize Mr. Bose after he has given the clarification that the readers were misled by the subject of his post as he actually expressed diametrically opposite views as should be evidenced by his use of exclamatory sign. So we can say that he made careless, callous, irresponsible and unfortunate comment.
2. If not misunderstood, I cannot agree with Mr.Rahman and must say that this particular post had nothing to do with promoting peace. Moreover, it was totally immoral and unethical as well.
       

From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Goalm Azam will bring back Awami league in power!!
 
Mr. Bose, 
It is very clear who you are? It seems you are using this Hindu name to disguise yourself to show even Hindu suports Golam Azam? How tricky...We ain't fool.. We can track you down.
M.Islam

>>>>>>>>> I do not think expressing gratitude for people who helped a person is any kind of sin. I know there are few people who used fake name in this forum but I have not seen any reaction to it. Why this threat of tracking member Bose down? Any large community can have diverse opinion and I do not think issuing threats will help having open discussions. Besides this member seems to be very peaceful and not provoking anything immoral or illogical. I would hope, member M Islam will practice more tolerance. If you speak for freedom of speech, you have to have some moral base to protect it. Only God knows if anyone said anything controversial how some of our pseudo_Mukto-Monas will react?  Shalom!
-----Original Message----- From: GT International <gti82@hotmail.com> To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wed, Jul 17, 2013 5:50 pm Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Goalm Azam will bring back Awami league in power!!
 
Mr. Bose, 
It is very clear who you are? It seems you are using this Hindu name to disguise yourself to show even Hindu suports Golam Azam? How tricky...We ain't fool.. We can track you down.
M.Islam
 
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com CC: srbanunz@gmail.com; akhtarudduza@gmail.com From: anjbose@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 01:21:24 -0400 Subject: [mukto-mona] Goalm Azam will bring back Awami league in power!! 

 
 I know how much pain we have when, Pakistani army and collaborators launched heinous acts on us in 1971. We lost every things, we gained many things. Gain was, we were given compassionate shelter by my next door community. Our union council chairman, my beloved Kafiluddin da like a fatherly affection gave us shelter and my Altaf da of my school teacher gave a safe place for my father since he was enemy to Pakistan for connection to Bangabandhu. I have good memory with my shelter places( Bhavi, sisters , brothers and uncles ) and all were my Muslim community. Still in my heart a place is reserved for them. And so , my  country is very dear to me.
What a tragedy, we are almost lost for our leadership. We will see very soon, Shaka will be out from jail  since he is also pronouncing Mujib's name as Bangabandhu. 

http://www.cadetcollegeblog.com/rajibhappy/39647



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