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Sunday, December 29, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] Gay mathematician gets royal pardon



What can Dr. Rahman do if Dr. Bain does not repent?  The British people, between two Queen Elizabeths, were a bunch of pirates who conquered most of the world.  Now, the glorious days are over.  Most of the world considers the Brits butt of jokes.  Not long ago, even Princess Diana used to sleep with anybody she found willing!

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On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

First, who are you, Anisur Rahman, to give me a chance or another chance? If you want, send my message to your queen, and see if I give a damn.
 
I am going to be nice to you and remind you what exactly I wrote (see my original post below), "the British have not yet gotten civilized enough to seek an unconditional pardon from him (Alan Turing)." This does not mean I called them "uncivilized", it means I called them "not civilized enough." I have avoided any adjective on you now to try to cool you down. But you have been wrong all along here. I will ignore you unless if you rectify yourself publicly.
 
SuBain
 
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From: ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 5:03 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Gay mathematician gets royal pardon

 
Look, SuBain, you have no right to call the whole of British people 'uncivilised' and then you display arrogance and stupidity by telling me what the British law is and what it should do. 

I asked you to apologise publicly for your stupid comment and you did not do that as yet. I am giving you another chance.

- A Rahman


From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 28 December 2013, 15:29
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Gay mathematician gets royal pardon

 
Oh, stop this rubbish, Anisur Rahman. You do not know me; please do not attempt to make a stupid judgment about me. I have absolutely no racism or hatred of any kind in my mind. Obviously, some pitiable bigots and fools might interpret my criticism of religious brainwashing as 'hatred'.
 
Now, let me try to put some better senses in people like you. According to a British law of 1952 Alan Turing was a criminal, thus punished. According to the British law now, he did not do any crime. Means what? The Brits have corrected their error in the law of 1952. Very good! Now what about Alan Turing? As per the better civilized version of their law, the Brits should apologize to him. Try to put that in your head. If you cannot do that, well, that is your problem, buddy. I cannot help you.
 
SuBain

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From: ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Gay mathematician gets royal pardon

 
Thank you, SuBain. I am glad that someone like you with racist disposition is disappointed. There is no decency in making racist outburst and then adopt a 'free thinker' platitude.

- AR

From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 28 December 2013, 2:09
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Gay mathematician gets royal pardon

 
Talking about 'childish' talk, I am quite disappointed with this gentleman, who writes his name as Dr. Anisur (or A) Rahman. I did not dignify his personal attacks on this thread against me with any response.
 
SuBain 
 
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On Dec 27, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
So, Brits have perfect excuse to be bad and unapologetic because Americans are even worse? That sounds to me very childish.
-SD
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss

On Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:00 PM, ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com> wrote:
 
One must realise that Alan Turing broke the law as it was in existence in 1952. So he was convicted and castrated, not imprisoned, as per his wish. 
Now 50 or so years later that law has been changed and Alan Turing, a brilliant British mathematician, had been granted pardon retrospectively and it is the most decent thing the British government and the British Royalty can do.
The same high standards and magnanimity cannot be assigned to America. When scores of people from across the globe had been kidnapped and imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay on suspicion of terrorism and many of them had been found to be totally innocent, American government did not come up and apologised to them and compensated them for the injustice. When millions of blacks had been mistreated, segregated and denied opportunities in 1950s and 1960s, American government did not compensate them. 
So, one should not throw stone while living in a glass house!

- AR 
 
From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2013, 10:49
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Gay mathematician gets royal pardo
   I really think Sukhamay hit on the right point .  What 'pardon'?  --  The British Govt. should be paying compensation to Alan Turin . . .

From: subain1@yahoo.com
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2013 15:39:51 -0800
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Gay mathematician gets royal pardon
 
I have serious problems with the words, "pardon" and "amnesty", when they are applied to victims and fighters of injustice.
 
Alan Turing did not do any crime, and he did not need any 'pardon'. The British government did a gross injustice to him in 1952 by castrating him. The British government and their royalty are the ones that needed pardoning by him (his departed soul or his family), not the other way around. Obviously, the British have not yet gotten civilized enough to seek an unconditional pardon from him, and are talking the nonsense of pardoning him instead.
 
SuBain
 
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From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 9:33 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Gay mathematician gets royal pardon

















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