Dear Sukhamaya Bain,
It is quite easy to adopt a lofty legal position that no one is above the law and try to apply that legal standard to the blatantly corrupt situation that existed in Bangladesh in 1970s. In a normal, peaceful democratic society, a man committing a murder has, of course, no impunity at all, even if that man happens to be a freedom fighter. That goes without saying.
But consider the situation: that man may have killed many people, including many innocent people, during the course of his freedom fighting only a few years back. He did those activities for the sake of the country and he was acclaimed and honoured for his actions. Now after the liberation, to which he contributed enormously by killing people, if he found someone who was destroying the country which he helped to liberate and killed that anti-state person, was he guilty? He was just applying his patriotic zeal which he nurtured during his freedom fighting period.
One must not put that freedom fighter in the category of a simple murderer and apply homicidal law verbatim. He did not kill someone for the sake of money or position. He killed a person, an elected leader for that matter who was out to destroy the very foundation of the State, to save the country. Is he not a patriot now, as he was a freedom fighter before?
I am not condoning political murders, far from it. But in a country where democracy is abused regularly then and now, accountability is totally non-existent and corruption is rampant, one should not just apply strict high more code verbatim. If all the elements of democracy would have been followed, then that situation which warranted such drastic step would not have arisen. So try to judge someone within that context, not outside it. That is my point.
Best wishes.
- Anis Rahman
From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2013, 10:49
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] বঙ্গবন্ধুর হত্যাকারী ফারুক-রশীদ গং-এর সকলেই ছিলেন খাঁটি মুক্তিযোদ্ধা
(To me, the obvious answer is that once a freedom fighter does not mean no punishment for criminal acts later
>>>>>>>> Fully agree.
No one is above the law and no one should be going around killing people with impunity. Recently Shajib Wazed Joy spoke about our culture of impunity and I agree with his statement on state of Bangladesh.
Shalom!
No one is above the law and no one should be going around killing people with impunity. Recently Shajib Wazed Joy spoke about our culture of impunity and I agree with his statement on state of Bangladesh.
Shalom!
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From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Sep 8, 2013 1:31 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] বঙ্গবন্ধুর হত্যাকারী ফারুক-রশীদ গং-এর সকলেই ছিলেন খাঁটি মুক্তিযোদ্ধা
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From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Sep 8, 2013 1:31 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] বঙ্গবন্ধুর হত্যাকারী ফারুক-রশীদ গং-এর সকলেই ছিলেন খাঁটি মুক্তিযোদ্ধা
The AL MP, Abdul Wadud Dwara, should have been able to respond to the question by the BNP MP, Nilofar Moni, in the talk show. The fact that the AL MP could not provide the obvious response probably just shows how poorly educated the Bangladeshi MPs are. Awami League, being the principal political party, should make serious efforts to recruit academically top-ranking and honest students in the colleges and universities to become future leaders of that party. Unfortunately, there are too many criminals and cronies that are part and parcel of that party now. This must change for a better Bangladesh.
(To me, the obvious answer is that once a freedom fighter does not mean no punishment for criminal acts later; and those soldiers had committed the most heinous and condemnable crime when they murdered an elected leader along with his family, including women and children, against whom even those criminals had no allegation other than they being related to Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman.)
Sukhamaya Bain
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From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 5:53 AM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] বঙ্গবন্ধুর হত্যাকারী ফারুক-রশীদ গং-এর সকলেই ছিলেন খাঁটি মুক্তিযোদ্ধা
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 5:53 AM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] বঙ্গবন্ধুর হত্যাকারী ফারুক-রশীদ গং-এর সকলেই ছিলেন খাঁটি মুক্তিযোদ্ধা
Dear Russel, I was responding to Delwar Hussain's column in Shaptahik who was reacting to the disgusting suggestion of BNP MP Nilofar Moni at a TV talk-show. Now read Mir Monaz' s response.Mir Monaz Haque
CC: bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com From: shahdeeldar@yahoo.com To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:10:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] বঙ্গবন্ধুর হত্যাকারী ফারুক-রশীদ গং-এর সকলেই ছিলেন খাঁটি মুক্তিযোদ্ধা
I can hardly find any person from that era who was not a freedom fighter. Even some dogs were fighting the war but I am not sure who they were killing/targeting?
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss
-Seuss
From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:38 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] বঙ্গবন্ধুর হত্যাকারী ফারুক-রশীদ গং-এর সকলেই ছিলেন খাঁটি মুক্তিযোদ্ধা
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2013 8:38 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] বঙ্গবন্ধুর হত্যাকারী ফারুক-রশীদ গং-এর সকলেই ছিলেন খাঁটি মুক্তিযোদ্ধা
Very good, Delwar! << বঙ্গবন্ধুর হত্যাকারী ফারুক-রশীদ গং-এর সকলেই ছিলেন খাঁটি মুক্তিযোদ্ধা। তাই তাদের কেন রাষ্ট্রীয় মর্যাদায় দাফন করা হয়নি, এই প্রশ্নটি তুলেছেন বঙ্গবন্ধুর খুনির দল বিএনপির জাঁহাবাজ এমপি নিলোফার মণি। এই প্রশ্নের তীরটি তিনি আজ ছুড়ে দিয়েছেন টকশো তৃতীয় মাত্রায় অংশগ্রহণকারী প্রতিপক্ষ রাজশাহী অঞ্চল থেকে নির্বাচিত আওয়ামী লীগের এমপি আব্দুল ওয়াদুদ দারাকে। বাংলাদেশে মুক্তিযোদ্ধারা আওয়ামী লীগ দ্বারাই হয়েছেন সবচেয়ে বেশি নিপীড়িত ও নির্যাতিত। তার অন্যতম একটি উদাহরণ হলো বঙ্গবন্ধুর খুনিদের রাষ্ট্রীয় মর্যাদা না দেয়া। মণির এই প্রশ্নের জবাব যেমন এমপি দারা দিতে পারেননি তেমনি আমারও জানা নাই এই প্রশ্নের জবাব কিভাবে দেয়া যায়। >>
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