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Fwd: [mukto-mona] Why do they hate us? ask Americans in exasperated innocence | My column in The Toronto Sun explains why



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Member Tarek,


But all of America's blunders in diplomacy pale when compared to how it has managed to make an adversary out of a natural ally— India.

>>>>>>>>> America is looking after it's interest. If you wish speak about "Natural ally" it used to be Pakistan. India and America are partners in south Asia but not ally. There are few lobby groups who are trying to make it into a marriage but guess this was a speed bump.

If a person like yourself (Born in Pakistan (In a Muhajer family), lived in Saudi Arabia and settled in Canada) can change your loyalty so many times, why it is a fault of America to looking after it's interest?

As far as I am concern, you will immigrate to America when you get a chance.   ;-)


the official said. "The differences are well known … but when Sujatha Singh made India's position loud and clear, the Americans were less than amused."
Only time will tell if it's true Khobragde's arrest in New York and subsequent expulsion was the result of America trying to bully India into abandoning Bangladesh to the Saudi and Turkish-backed Islamists.

>>>>>>>>>>> Well Bangladesh was the first country in modern era who stood up to autocrats and abuse of religion by a state. It was against YOUR place of birth ---Pakistan!!

If you go back into history, you will discover that, Bangladeshi made huge sacrifices to establish Pakistan and initial "Pakistan proposal" was raised by a Bengali leader.

However when Pakistan (Which should have been a democratic country) turned into a military dictatorship which openly discriminated against Bengali Muslims (Our fault was we liked Hindus and our culture), we stood up to one of the largest military machines of that time and defeated it ( America used the French to kick British Butt during independence, we used India to stand up to Pakistani assault on unarmed population).

Today you disrespect us (A paid talk head at your best) by discussing if we should be under India or Saudi Arabia?

Despite all odds Bangladesh survived and to some extant thrived in last four decades. Yes we have some political issues but it is OUR issues (Not India's, Saudi Arabia's or Canada). In future we'll sort it out.

If you really think that, Americans were going after an Indian diplomat over policy issues as some sort of revenge, please do your home work.

Maybe you should stick to your bread and butter issue (Islam bashing)
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One post takes a bizarre and hateful swipe at Indians, saying, "It's the vegetarians that are doing the raping, not the meat-eaters."

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140115/jsp/jharkhand/story_17815622.jsp#.UtZTFTOA3IU

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1131126/jsp/northeast/story_17613101.jsp#.UtZT2jOA3IU

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130830/jsp/frontpage/story_17290562.jsp#.UtZUAjOA3IU

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1131029/jsp/calcutta/story_17504610.jsp#.UtZUPDOA3IU

>>>>>>> It is ONLY bizarre because you do not know that many women (Including foreigners) were raped recently in India. It is spreading like an awful disease. Pesky Canadians never miss a chance to bash America albeit their existence pretty much depends on America. Probably you are still "New" to Canada and do not know how your heating bill money literally depends on how much Canadian goods America will buy this year. It was probably undiplomatic but not racist!! 

But an Indian diplomat can be stripped and handcuffed on questionable charges of underpaying her housemaid.
Virtually overnight, the U.S. has turned a billion Indians into adversaries.
 
>>>>>>> Probably there is more things involved in this incident or America discovered fundamental differences in polices with India. I am sure time will tell us more on this topic. State department spokesperson wanted to put this issue in the back and move on but upcoming election will keep Indians talking about it. So if there is more to it, we'll know.

If this happened because of Indian policy over Bangladesh, it will be interesting to say the least.

FYI, your adopted country (Canada) is with America on Bangladesh issue. Specifically on a credible election and state democracy in Bangladesh. Maybe you should ponder on that for a sec....

Lastly, India should be the "Natural ally" of Bangladesh for many reasons. However I am not sure Bengali population will be happy if India keeps meddling into our domestic politics again and again.


Salaam!



-----Original Message-----
From: Tarek Fatah <tarek.fatah@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2014 9:01 pm
Subject: [mukto-mona] Why do they hate us? ask Americans in exasperated innocence | My column in The Toronto Sun explains why

 

 • January 14, 2014 • 

Barack Obama's reverse Midas touch |
Turning ally India into an adversary

"… not all diplomats are created equal. U.S. diplomats can get away with murder as was the case when one of them shot dead a Pakistani man in broad daylight. Another U.S. diplomat in Kenya killed a Kenyan in a car accident, but was smuggled out of the country before the police could talk to him. U.S. diplomats, who kill, smuggle or make racist remarks, face no trials. But an Indian diplomat can be stripped and handcuffed on questionable charges of underpaying her housemaid."

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Obama and ChuckTarek Fatah
The Toronto Sun
Only U.S. President Barack Obama could manage to pull off such colossal American failures in foreign policy.
It's as if the man has the reverse Midas touch.
In fairness, it's easy for countries to be jealous of America and detest its accomplishments. However, to earn the wrath of both sides in every conflict requires a special skill. Obama has that.
In Israel, Jews and Palestinians are suspicious of Obama's motives. In Syria, where the Obama administration wanted to topple the Assad regime, it ended up creating fertile soil for Islamist jihadis, America's sworn enemies.
But all of America's blunders in diplomacy pale when compared to how it has managed to make an adversary out of a natural ally— India.
As if it was not enough that Washington was funding India's archenemy, Pakistan, with billions of dollars in military hardware, we now learn the U.S. is backing the Islamist opposition in India's eastern neighbour, Bangladesh, by undermining the legitimacy of the Muslim world's only secular, anti-Islamist government, led by Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina.
Bangladesh
We also learn from a Bangladesh news source that the arrest, strip search and subsequent expulsion of Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade from the U.S. over minor charges of visa fraud to employ an Indian maid, may have been the result of tensions between New Delhi and Washington over India's policies on Bangladesh.
The DiplomatBDNews.com quoted a senior official of the Indian Ministry of External Affairs saying the arrest of the Indian diplomat in the U.S. took place after a meeting between Indian Foreign Secretary Sujatha Singh and U.S. State Department officials, where the two sides couldn't agree on policies towards Bangladesh.
"There were several contentious issues that Sujatha Singh raised with the U.S. officials, and Bangladesh topped our list of differences," the official said. "The differences are well known … but when Sujatha Singh made India's position loud and clear, the Americans were less than amused."
Only time will tell if it's true Khobragde's arrest in New York and subsequent expulsion was the result of America trying to bully India into abandoning Bangladesh to the Saudi and Turkish-backed Islamists.
After Khobragade's expulsion, the Indians retaliated by asking two American diplomats to leave India. It turns out they had made no secret of their contempt for India and Indians.
American diplomats Alicia May husband Wayne May in New Delhi who made disparaging and racist remarks about India and Indians
American diplomats Alicia May husband Wayne May in New Delhi who made disparaging and racist remarks about India and Indians
They were caught on Facebook making racist remarks about Indian society. One post takes a bizarre and hateful swipe at Indians, saying, "It's the vegetarians that are doing the raping, not the meat-eaters."
Another boasts of arranging to smuggle beef burgers into the country and hosting the illegal sale of pearls smuggled into India from China.
But then, not all diplomats are created equal.
U.S. diplomats can get away with murder as was the case when one of them shot dead a Pakistani man in broad daylight. Another U.S. diplomat in Kenya killed a Kenyan in a car accident, but was smuggled out of the country before the police could talk to him.
U.S. diplomats, who kill, smuggle or make racist remarks, face no trials. But an Indian diplomat can be stripped and handcuffed on questionable charges of underpaying her housemaid.
Virtually overnight, the U.S. has turned a billion Indians into adversaries.
Meanwhile in Pakistan, the mullahs and military chuckle in amusement, as Americans wonder in innocent exasperation, "Why do they hate us?"


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