I find Jiten Roy talking about Banglastan very distasteful and dispiriting at a time when we are all struggling in the midst of utter misery, random vandalism, unsafe streets and neighborhoods and communal violence. Not a single life, rich or poor, young or old, rural or urban, is unaffected or unscathed by the present situation in Bangladesh.
Farida Majid Beyond lamenting the tragic carnage of Hindu households, which is so mindless that it did not even need the pretension of a local communal riot, we must be RESOLVED to stop it -- once and for all -- the whole pattern of using communal violence as a political tool. Please listen to Rohan Gunaratna's words and think for yourself how we can uproot the recurring cause.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6bOsHitAxU&feature=share
Listen to this clip of one of the top international experts on terrorism. Listen to every word of Rohan Gunaratna, who has spent his lifetime studying terrorism and is a very insightful analyst. He too, like me, wants to tackle communalism and religious extremism in the context of whole South Asia.
Nasir, you should get hold of Rohan Gunaratna and Peter Bergen's book on Al Quaeda and terrorism. Gunaratna sets the gold standard on how we should approach the problems of religious extremism both theoretically and on everyday level.
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From: jnrsr53@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 18:49:46 -0800
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Does it matter if Hindus suffer?
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Farida Majid Beyond lamenting the tragic carnage of Hindu households, which is so mindless that it did not even need the pretension of a local communal riot, we must be RESOLVED to stop it -- once and for all -- the whole pattern of using communal violence as a political tool. Please listen to Rohan Gunaratna's words and think for yourself how we can uproot the recurring cause.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6bOsHitAxU&feature=share
Listen to this clip of one of the top international experts on terrorism. Listen to every word of Rohan Gunaratna, who has spent his lifetime studying terrorism and is a very insightful analyst. He too, like me, wants to tackle communalism and religious extremism in the context of whole South Asia.
Nasir, you should get hold of Rohan Gunaratna and Peter Bergen's book on Al Quaeda and terrorism. Gunaratna sets the gold standard on how we should approach the problems of religious extremism both theoretically and on everyday level.
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
From: jnrsr53@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 18:49:46 -0800
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Does it matter if Hindus suffer?
Dr. Mushrafi,
You were Muktijodhya, so you must be aware of the sacrifice India made to liberate this land from the grip of Pakistan. Do you think they will sit back and relax while Bangladesh again becomes Banglastan?
I am talking about Banglastan, not Bangladesh. I think you reacted too swiftly. Think about it again.
I asked about your opinion also. Tell me - how India will react if Bangladesh becomes Banglastan, meaning another Taliban country. Do you really think - Indian will welcome it?
You were Muktijodhya, so you must be aware of the sacrifice India made to liberate this land from the grip of Pakistan. Do you think they will sit back and relax while Bangladesh again becomes Banglastan?
How could you think that - I dream of such a day when Bangladesh gets rid of religious minorities? Please read my post again with your open mind, and think about it before jumping to conclusion.
Jiten Roy
On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:45 PM, Mohammad Mushrafi <mushrafi@hotmail.com> wrote:
"I see Indian army marching in Banglastan" is it a subtle threat or dream?
While we fully condemn any atrocities by one people to other in the name of religion, secularism, supremacy or else,
sadly, some people of Bangladesh in illusion that India will stand by there (personal side???) side against the population of Bangladesh at some point of time if situation "goes wrong". This is a wrong notion and twisted idea. World knows the strength of Bangladesh. So as India. Bangladesh is not Afganistan, and it will never be. 71 proved it. Pakistanis tasted it. forceful cccupation does not work in Bangladesh.
In the liberation war I had a chance to work shoulder to shoulder with Indian army in Burimari defence. We had many discussion while sitting in the bankers. In conversation one habildar once told me, "India ub tomhara jamin por age barte hai, ye thore piche hotega. Agar koi char khuti por ek jhupri khara korde usko hotana mushkil hai"(India now marching on your land. It woun't retreat. If some one raise a hut on your land, they will hardly retreat.). Our answer was, as we are fighting Pakistanis now against their "Julum", we will turn our gun to fight you back as well. Ostad commented, " Tum Khatarnak ho" with praise ofcourse.
Some people of Bangladesh feel Pakistan is their right country, some other group of people thinks India is their right country. But I met Bangali men in Karachi who were treated as second class people of Pakistan. I met my young teacher Ranjit in the street of Dharmatala, Calcutta. Who once secretly left Bangladesh along with his old mother to live in India. He held me on his chest tight and said, brother, I was wrong to live my own motherland. Here in India we are not accepted, we are "Bangaal".
There are plenty of such stories I can tell you.
I now live in Australia as migrant. Who knows best then people like me that "Janmadopi gorioshi Janani Jonmobhumi".
Banglesh is "Jole pure sarkhar tobu matha noyabar noi". Even thinking of threatening Bangladesh by any nation is foolish. From Afganistan experience USA learnt it better now. India had foresight and knew it well, that's why demolishing any such doubt in 1971 the army has left Bangladesh as soon as they have been ordered by Bangladesh authority. From East Pakistan, West Pakistan has never learnt it, but they had to surrender and leave.
As a born Bangladeshi keeping anything such "threat idea" against own country is a sin, a crime. Sometimes it brings hatred of other to own-self unknowingly.
Dr. Mushrafi, Muktijodhdha
Australia
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
From: jnrsr53@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:59:50 -0800
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Does it matter if Hindus suffer?
While we fully condemn any atrocities by one people to other in the name of religion, secularism, supremacy or else,
sadly, some people of Bangladesh in illusion that India will stand by there (personal side???) side against the population of Bangladesh at some point of time if situation "goes wrong". This is a wrong notion and twisted idea. World knows the strength of Bangladesh. So as India. Bangladesh is not Afganistan, and it will never be. 71 proved it. Pakistanis tasted it. forceful cccupation does not work in Bangladesh.
In the liberation war I had a chance to work shoulder to shoulder with Indian army in Burimari defence. We had many discussion while sitting in the bankers. In conversation one habildar once told me, "India ub tomhara jamin por age barte hai, ye thore piche hotega. Agar koi char khuti por ek jhupri khara korde usko hotana mushkil hai"(India now marching on your land. It woun't retreat. If some one raise a hut on your land, they will hardly retreat.). Our answer was, as we are fighting Pakistanis now against their "Julum", we will turn our gun to fight you back as well. Ostad commented, " Tum Khatarnak ho" with praise ofcourse.
Some people of Bangladesh feel Pakistan is their right country, some other group of people thinks India is their right country. But I met Bangali men in Karachi who were treated as second class people of Pakistan. I met my young teacher Ranjit in the street of Dharmatala, Calcutta. Who once secretly left Bangladesh along with his old mother to live in India. He held me on his chest tight and said, brother, I was wrong to live my own motherland. Here in India we are not accepted, we are "Bangaal".
There are plenty of such stories I can tell you.
I now live in Australia as migrant. Who knows best then people like me that "Janmadopi gorioshi Janani Jonmobhumi".
Banglesh is "Jole pure sarkhar tobu matha noyabar noi". Even thinking of threatening Bangladesh by any nation is foolish. From Afganistan experience USA learnt it better now. India had foresight and knew it well, that's why demolishing any such doubt in 1971 the army has left Bangladesh as soon as they have been ordered by Bangladesh authority. From East Pakistan, West Pakistan has never learnt it, but they had to surrender and leave.
As a born Bangladeshi keeping anything such "threat idea" against own country is a sin, a crime. Sometimes it brings hatred of other to own-self unknowingly.
Dr. Mushrafi, Muktijodhdha
Australia
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
From: jnrsr53@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:59:50 -0800
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Does it matter if Hindus suffer?
Professor Hossain's article depicts harsh reality of religious minorities, especially Hindus, in Bangladesh. I agree with most of his analysis.
According to his analysis, Hindu oppression will continue until nothing is left to be taken from them. I would like to ponder on Bangladesh after that. What will happen to Awami League, BNP, Jamat, etc.?
I see the death of secularism, and death of Awami League; I see Islamic Banglastan. After that - I see Indian (or US) Army marching on the soil of Banglastan. I see smoke in the air; I hear bombs going off everywhere; etc., etc.
What do you see?
Jiten Roy
On Thursday, January 9, 2014 6:06 PM, ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com> wrote:
Please read the article and feel ashamed. Read Hindus as all minorities.
- AR
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