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Friday, January 10, 2014

Re: [mukto-mona] Does it matter if Hindus suffer?



I asked about your opinion also. Tell me - how India will react if Bangladesh becomes Banglastan, meaning another Taliban country. Do you really think - Indian will welcome it?

>>>>>>>>>>>> We had rajakars during 71 who put interest of foreign country over their own. We still have some rajakars among our population who are hoping for "Indian administration" in future Bangladesh.

Personally I feel, it is an old mind set. India itself betrayed Bangladesh since 72.

We are the "Natural ally" of India who have been treated like an enemy country since 72. Therefore, we did not forget India's help during 71 and it will remain part of our history as long we have a country call Bangladesh. At the same time, no country can afford to live in history forever.

Reality is harsh. India openly got involved in our domestic politics. India did same with funding terror groups in Sri Lanka. Funding political parties in Nepal and other neighboring countries.

Such help may be a "Gain" for the receiving party in the short run but history shows us it backfires all the time.

We have to have a working (And trusting relationship with India) in many areas like food security, security, environment, disease control, river management, trade (We buy a lot of Indian products) etc. So when India realizes that, the zero-sum policies does not work, we can get into win-win partnership.

Many Bangladeshis have high regards for Indian policy makers (Regardless of religious or political background). I do not!!

I think these "Our of date" and out of touch policy makers are still in cold war era and cannot bring them into 21st century.

I honestly feel, India and Bangladesh will gain a lot if we work as trusting partners.


A solid, stable Bangladesh is obviously a win for India. I do not know WHY Mamata and congress cannot see that? Once we become strong partners India can slush it's military budget (Which is one of the highest in the world) and invest those resources into development. We can HELP India with our experience in NGO, Micro-finance and many other areas where we have done well. India can help us in building infrastructures and linking us with regional power grid (A great concept) etc.

We can work as partners to improve our situations when it comes to rights of minorities as well. Our cultures are similar and India can do so much more than being the biggest bully in the region!!

Unfortunately India remains the biggest threat to it's neighbors and it is a monumental error in India's regional policies. India already lost Pakistan for a very long time. I like to think India will learn from it's past stupidity and become a solid partner of a prosperous Bangladesh. We''ll win together.

My two cents...

Shalom!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 9, 2014 8:49 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Does it matter if Hindus suffer?

 
Dr. Mushrafi,

I am talking about Banglastan, not Bangladesh. I think you reacted too swiftly. Think about it again.
I asked about your opinion also. Tell me - how India will react if Bangladesh becomes Banglastan, meaning another Taliban country. Do you really think - Indian will welcome it?
 
You were Muktijodhya, so you must be aware of the sacrifice India made to liberate this land from the grip of Pakistan. Do you think they will sit back and relax while Bangladesh again becomes Banglastan?

How could you think that - I dream of such a day when Bangladesh gets rid of religious minorities? Please read my post again with your open mind, and think about it before jumping to conclusion.

Jiten Roy




On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:45 PM, Mohammad Mushrafi <mushrafi@hotmail.com> wrote:
 
"I see Indian army marching in Banglastan"  is it a subtle threat or dream? 
 
While we fully condemn any atrocities by one people to other in the name of religion, secularism, supremacy or else,
sadly, some people of Bangladesh in illusion that India will stand by there (personal side???) side against the population of Bangladesh at some point of time if situation "goes wrong". This is a wrong notion and twisted idea. World knows the strength of Bangladesh. So as India. Bangladesh is not Afganistan, and it will never be. 71 proved it. Pakistanis tasted it. forceful cccupation does not work in Bangladesh.
 
In the liberation war I had a chance to work shoulder to shoulder with Indian army in Burimari defence.  We had many discussion while sitting in the bankers.  In conversation one habildar once told me, "India ub tomhara jamin por age barte hai, ye thore piche hotega. Agar koi char khuti por ek jhupri khara korde usko hotana mushkil hai"(India now marching on your land. It woun't retreat. If some one raise a hut on your land, they will hardly retreat.). Our answer was, as we are fighting Pakistanis now against their "Julum", we will turn our gun to fight you back as well. Ostad commented, " Tum Khatarnak ho" with praise ofcourse.
 
Some people of Bangladesh feel Pakistan is their right country, some other group of people thinks India is their right country.  But I met Bangali men in Karachi who were treated as second class people of Pakistan. I met my young teacher Ranjit in the street of Dharmatala, Calcutta. Who once secretly left Bangladesh along with his old mother to live in India. He held me on his chest tight and said, brother, I was wrong to live my own motherland. Here in India we are not accepted, we are "Bangaal". 
There are plenty of such stories I can tell you.
I now live in Australia as migrant. Who knows best then  people like me that "Janmadopi gorioshi Janani Jonmobhumi".
 
Banglesh is "Jole pure sarkhar tobu matha noyabar noi".  Even thinking of threatening Bangladesh by any nation is foolish. From Afganistan experience USA learnt it better now.  India had foresight and knew it well, that's why demolishing any such doubt in 1971 the army has left Bangladesh as soon as they have been ordered by Bangladesh authority. From East Pakistan, West Pakistan has never learnt it, but they had to surrender and leave.
 
As a born Bangladeshi keeping anything such "threat idea" against own country is a sin, a crime. Sometimes it brings hatred of other to own-self unknowingly.

Dr. Mushrafi, Muktijodhdha
Australia

To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
From: jnrsr53@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:59:50 -0800
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Does it matter if Hindus suffer?

 
Professor Hossain's article depicts harsh reality of religious minorities, especially Hindus, in Bangladesh. I agree with most of his analysis.

According to his analysis, Hindu oppression will continue until nothing is left to be taken from them. I would like to ponder on Bangladesh after that. What will happen to Awami League, BNP, Jamat, etc.?

I see the death of secularism, and death of Awami League; I see Islamic Banglastan. After that - I see Indian (or US) Army marching on the soil of Banglastan. I see smoke in the air; I hear bombs going off everywhere; etc., etc.

What do you see?

Jiten Roy


On Thursday, January 9, 2014 6:06 PM, ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com> wrote:
 

Please read the article and feel ashamed. Read Hindus as all minorities. 


- AR







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