Re: [mukto-mona] Does it matter if Hindus suffer?

You are wrong about everything you said.

I do not know why - you always fail to understand the meaning of Bangali-Jatiotabad. Bangali-Jatiotabad is based on secular ideals; there is no Hindu, Muslim, Buddha, Christian in the Bangali-Jatiotabad. Pakistanis did not like that.

Pakistanis wanted to make us a part of Pakistani-jati, not Bangali-jati. So, they wanted to impose Urdu on us, and that effort resulted Bangali revolt in 1952. Many people rightly refer 1952 as the starting point of our struggle for independence. The fact is - we could not assimilate with Pakistanis. That's why I said – we did not like Pakistan. Hatred and exploitation against us came upon us as a consequence. That was the reason why Pakistanis were not comfortable to hand over the power to us.

As a secularist, Mushrafi did welcome Indian soldiers, but to some other people (Razakars, Al Badrs, etc.), Indian soldiers were aggressors.

So, rest assured, Indian soldiers will be considered as aggressor again to the Razakar and Al Badrs, but secularists, like Mushrafi, will surely welcome them.

I cannot include too much detail in a comment, because that is beyond the scope of the commenting format.

Thanks.

Jiten Roy

On Friday, January 10, 2014 9:29 PM, Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Quite a few statements of Dr. Jiten Roy are too fallacious. Let me comment on two.

 

1. "We, the secular Bangalis, did not like Pakistan. So, we created Bangladesh to live in a secular environment."

 

Too simplistic and too wrong! We did not like Pakistan, not because we were secular. "We" did not like Pakistan, because "our" Muslim brothers from the western wing did not treat "us" like bothers. They exploited "us" all along during our common country of Pakistan (1947-1971). They did not hand over power to the people's representatives of "our" common country, because an absolute majority of the parliament members of the country from the 1970 election were from amongst "us." They considered "us" inferior, and instead of fairly transferring power to "us" they brutalized "us."

 

2. "You (Mushrafi) said – people of Bangladesh will resist any Indian aggression. If that is true, why did you welcome them in 1971?"

 

Did Mushrafi welcome them in 1971 to commit aggression on us? Obviously not. I have no problem in thinking that the people of Bangladesh would and should resist Indian aggression. The question really is, why would India commit aggression on us?

 

Well that's all for now.

 

Sukhamaya Bain

 

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From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Does it matter if Hindus suffer?

 

Mr. Mushrafi thinks – people of Bangladesh will not let Bangladesh to be Banglastan. Tell me - what type of country Bangladesh will be - when religious minorities are all forced out of the country, like Pakistan did? Do you think – Bangladesh will remain secular with 99% Muslim population?

 

Now, let's think about the reality, at hand; what has happened over the last 43 years of Bangladesh. Those who opposed the independence have ruled the country most of the time. They have installed religion-based politics firmly again. The secular nationalist ideals (Bangali-Jatiotabad) that motivated millions of people in 1971 are about to be instinct in Bangladesh. I do not think your confidence and nationalist pride is enough to save Bangladesh from its ruin. You need more than talks; you need to act to establish secularism. You are not ready yet, I can tell.

 

As you know - Bangladesh was not created for a particular religious sect; Pakistan was. We, the secular Bangalis, did not like Pakistan. So, we created Bangladesh to live in a secular environment. What happened now? That's my question to Mr. Mushrafi.

 

Also, India got involved in our fight because of their own national interest, not because they love us. And, that interest gets threatened, when all religious minorities, and secular people, are driven out of Bangladesh. Religious minorities from Bangladesh have been a huge burden in India already. There were 17% religious minorities in 1971, which is today 8%. Where did they go – India, isn't it? Now, once again religious minorities are flocking towards the border. At some point, this refugee pressure will be the stray that will break the camel's back, as it did in 1971.  

 

You said – people of Bangladesh will resist any Indian aggression. If that is true, why did you welcome them in 1971? The situation will be exactly the same again, when secular Muslims in Bangladesh will beg India again to save them, as they did in 1971; I was talking about that scenario.

 

I think, it was a close call this time. If Sheihk Hashina failed in her efforts, Awami League supporters, secular intellectuals, and religious minorities would have flocked to the border again by now. After that - we all would have begged India to help us.  

 

The thought of India ruling this unruly land, called Bangladesh, is utter nonsense. There is nothing to be gained from that venture, except to take the responsibility of feeding forever growing 160 million people, majority of who are religious fanatic, who will destabilize India even further. I don't think Indians are that stupid.

 

Thank you.

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