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Wednesday, May 29, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] Mercy is an important trait of Muslims



I am surprised that Middle Eastern tradition is different from our Deshi tradition. 


From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Mercy is an important trait of Muslims

 
Apparently, even Mr. Mahbub Kamal is more reasonable than the two Rahmans in discussing the religious traditions.


On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Mahbub Kamal <mahbubk2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
I am not exactly sure, but my guess is Sallallahu Alaihe Wa Sallam and PBUH are inventions from Indian sub-continent. I have never heard any Arab to add either after the name of the prophet of Islam. In Indian sub-continent it is a 'kabira gunah' if you just say Muhammad insttead of Hazrat Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihe Wa Sallam :-) Also touching Quran without performing wudhu is a big sin in this part of the world, some will not even touch any Arabic writing without wudhu.
 
Irrespecive of religion, people of the sub-continent go extra steps to show respect to prophets, deities, sadhus, 'awlia's and elders. Until recent influx of Wahabi influence (and ultra Hindutta-bad as counter-reaction - may be I am generalizing too much) introduced extremism, religion was more human and humane in the sub-continent and Malay peninsula.
 
For some of the honoured subscribers in this forum, above is just a personal observation and does not cover all details and exceptions.
 
BTW, Hazrat is not an Arabic word.
 
Dhannyabad

From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 8:12:17 AM

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Mercy is an important trait of Muslims
 
MR: "For how long will you criticize all aspects of Muslims on this forum?"
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said
"Be merciful to those on the earth, so the one in the heavens will be merciful upon you" At Tabarani
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Mr. Rahman,

All discussions stemmed from your above posting. Why did you post such message if you did not want any discussion on your comments? This is a discussion forum. 
 
Anyway, I liked rest of your reply; I am satisfied with your reasoning behind the "peace be upon him" prayer. It makes logical sense to me.
Thanks.

Jiten Roy

From: MUSTAFIZUR RAHMAN <mustafiz84@hotmail.com>
To: Mukto-mona Mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:30 AM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Mercy is an important trait of Muslims
 
In reply to Mr Sukhamaya Bain's query:

When Muslims say PBUH when the name of Muhammad is pronounced, peace is sent back to them also by Allah. It is just as when  a soldier salutes a general, the general also salutes him back. Now a soldier saluting a general is not important for the general, but when the general salutes the soldier, its is important for the soldier. He feels good. So when Allah pays back a Muslim for showing respect to HIS Prophet, its value is far more.
For how long will you criticize all aspects of Muslims on this forum?

Mustafizur Rahman
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.comFrom: jnrsr53@yahoo.comDate: Tue, 28 May 2013 17:29:20 -0700Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Mercy is an important trait of Muslims 
Logically such custom is redundant, because he is already at peace being the most favorite person of Allah. I believe this is what they were asked to do, and they just follow that without question.  

Now, Prophet has mandated Muslims to be merciful, yet so much violence we see even in the Muslim majority countries, like Pakistan, Iraq, etc. Most of these violences are caused by orthodox religious people. Almost everyday in Iraq, you will see 50/60 people are dying due to sectarian clashes. Here is the irony - orthodox Muslims may forget to be merciful, but they never forget to pray for Prophet's peace. 

Jiten Roy


From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Mercy is an important trait of Muslims
 
I have been thinking about a question for a while. While I have been quite vocal about injustices and atrocities that are being committed in the world by Muslims, using, misusing and abusing their religion, I generally do not criticize the specifics of the religion. As I wrote quite a few times, the religions do not have to be perfect, and we cannot go back in time to change any of the so-called revelations or words of wisdom. What I advocate is for people to use their own common sense to follow what is worth following, and discard what is stupid and hateful.
 
Now the question to the serious Muslims. Why PBUH (Peace Be Upon Him) after Mohammad, the prophet of Islam? He is supposed to be the most favorite human that God (Allah in Arabic) almighty has created, according to Islam. Of all humans, he is supposed to have the most peace already. He certainly does not need any human's wish. Why do humans wish him peace? Saluting him, calling him great, etc., I can understand from a believer's perspective. But wishing him peace does not make sense at all. Any logical answer to this simple question that I am asking with absolutely no malice?
 
Sukhamaya Bain 
 
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From: Mohammad Rahman <mrahman246@yahoo.com>
To: Karim Chowdhury <karim718@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:41 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Mercy is an important trait of Muslims
 
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said
"Be merciful to those on the earth, so the one in the heavens will be merciful upon you" At Tabarani
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