(Please publish this one, discard the one I sent earlier. Thanks.)
First, let me advise Dr. Roy to look at his writings a bit more carefully before sending. The atrocities on the Hindus by the Biharis were no revenge, because the Hindus had not committed any such thing on the Biharis. The Bihari actions on the Hindus were purely hateful barbarities on innocent people.
Second, let me offer a bit of correction to another comment by Dr. Roy. Mr. Shaheen's 'murky understanding of the liberation war' is not 'due to his lack of first hand experiences of that period'; it is due to his lack of a rational education. An educated person does not need a firsthand experience to see a problem.
Now, let me make a few comments on Mr. Shaheen's comments.
Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh would not get together any time soon to break up India into several pieces; nor would a broken up India pave the way for a South Asian Union. While India has some Muslim-appeasing politicians, it also has a lot of smart people, including some Muslims, who would never form a union with tens of millions of hateful Islamic fanatics (mostly in Pakistan and Bangladesh). Those smart people are not likely to vanish even if India were to break up into many pieces.
It is utterly ignorant to suggest that RAW played a huge role in the break-up of Pakistan in 1971. India did play a decisive (bigger than huge) role openly in the break-up of Pakistan. However, that role had no chance of being played if the western Pakistani dictators had not unleashed their heinous military criminals on the unarmed civilians of East Bengal.
Pakistan 'started out as a secular democracy'- really?
Comparing the killings of Bangalees and Biharis is foolish and dishonest, if not criminal. Mostly innocent Bangalees were killed by a state's armed forces, whereas some innocent Biharis were killed by unruly mobs and vigilante groups. Bangalees were killed systematically by a hateful military with all the weapons in their disposal; and Biharis were killed unsystematically by a tiny fraction of the victimized population in anger with no arms depot in their disposal.
Why the Bangalees in West Pakistan were spared? The short answer would be that they were not a threat against the ruling military dictators.
'Even Israel did not go after Jewish collaborators; they stuck to the Nazis because they didn't want Jews to be divided against Jews' – what an absurd statement! Was there any Jewish collaborator who sent other Jews to the gas chamber? Mr. Shaheen claims that he is for human rights! Does he have a human sense? Well, he does not want Muslims to be divided against Muslims; but he needs to educate himself with the sense that Muslims could be united with love among themselves, as opposed to hatred against non-Muslims. Stupidity, hatred, dishonesty, unfairness, injustice and irresponsibility do not work very well for unity.
Sukhamaya Bain
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From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Breaking Up Is Not Hard to Do
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Breaking Up Is Not Hard to Do
You said, "So good on us for continuing our tradition of revenge even after 42 years, on our fellow Bengalis who participated in crimes against Bengalis." Is this your interpretation of the trial against humanity? You really think that the purpose of these trials is to seek revenge. Very interesting! You should know - revenge usually does not need any trial. When victims carry out the punishment by themselves, it's revenge. But, when punishment is sought through the court system, it's not a revenge. It's called seeking justice for the crime. There is a huge difference. Your murky understanding of the liberation war is due to your lack of first hand experiences of that period. You talked about Bihari victims. Yes, Bihari Colony in our town was also attacked before Pak-Military came to town. But, after the arrival of Pak-Military, Biharis took due revenge on Bangalees, especially Hindus. They looted and burned Hindu houses and business after the arrival of Pak-military. There are many more Bihari collaborators also, who are mostly unaccounted for. Jiten Roy --- On Fri, 3/22/13, Ali Shaheen <alishaheen2010@gmail.com> wrote:
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