>>>>>>>> It is a FACT that, blogs are NOT private (Maybe e-mails are but not blogs). I am just sad, I have to write AGAIN to clarify this AGAIN.
First of all, our politics have a disturbing habit of distortion. Of course being "Nastik" or atheist is NOT a crime. It is not a crime in Islam either. HOWEVER spreading falsehood against prominent religious figures, religion etc is a DIFFERENT issue. For example, I was told Dr. Jafar Iqbal is atheist and I respect him for not reverting to attacking religion. Allah (SWT) created us as "Free people". He sent us revelation and we are free to obey Him or disobey Him. However if someone wants "Fight against religion", they should be punished.
Similarly so called "progressive" crowd is not much better. They are experts in making people into "Rajakars", "Jamaat" or BNP lovers anytime when someone disagree with them.
This childish culture needs to change!!
If you (I am saying as an EXAMPLE only) keep making personal attacks, you should not expect others will "Play nice" with you all the time.
You can go back to every post by me and see the levels of name calling and slandering followed these posts. While I was ONLY explaining Islam to people who (clearly) did not know much about it.
All those 'Hujurs' who marched to Dhaka yesterday should save their energies for a patriotic march when need arises. This is a non-issue, and does not deserve long-march.
>>>>>>>> Frankly my own expectation of a PHD holder is much higher than any average hujur. Also I was scared that, we would witness a lot of violence. Our religious leaders were able to hold a very large (mostly) peaceful rally despite many provocations. They made some passionate calls to protect religion and we know some idiot blogers pose no threat to religion. I respect their passion (Like I respect passion of students at Shahbag) but it is our political leaders who have to lead us to a much stable situation.
So, my advice to Awami-leaderships is - let them free, before you alienate your big support base.
I am sorry, if this is the mentality of someone with a PHD, why do you blame others?
We should be a "nation of law". Where NO one is above the law. If we can agree on this simple concept, we'll be protected.
Shalom!
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HOWEVER "Bolg" is NOT private. It can be access by millions (Or even billions) of people in the net.
As I mentioned earlier, we should have freedom to discuss our thoughts, ideas etc. We should not waste our freedom on making personal attacks or threats. As long we take responsibility of our works and words, we'll be fine.
Shalom!
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You said – 'blogsite' is not a private space, since anyone can access it. I agree. But, the issue is not if it is a public domain or not, it is the individual rights issue. If someone commits SIN by being a Nastik, others have only right to render counseling against such action only; they have no right to ask for punishment,
>>>>>>>> I slightly disagree with you. We should NOT make blanket statements. If any bloggers (Most of the bloggers are just fine people) commit crime, it should be examined. If any of them are criminals, they should be punished. Just because they are BAL supporters, they should not be free.
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The faith of the 'believers' is so fragile that it can't stand any honest query or criticism.
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
I wish every religionist would be like you, but - it is not. Bangladesh economy is going down; social framework in Bangladesh is cracking. And all these are going on for the political power struggle. I do not think this destructive politics started because of election season, BNP started 'Sarkar-Poton (Dethrone-Government)' movement right after their defeat in the last election. They are still shouting to dethrone the government even though election is knocking at the door. Why would they want to dethrone an elected government, unless the government has committed anti-state activities? This is an unlawful demand by a political party, which only invites violence, not healthy political environment. Those leaders need to be held accountable for misusing such a sacred political instrument. Anyone wants to use this instrument need to justify it before using it. BNP has misused it so much that people don't pay attention to this call anymore.
BNP wants to use anything and everything, including religion, to dethrone government. BNP leaders announced solidarity with Hijrat Islam yesterday, and demanded punishment for 'Nastik' Bloggers. What a naked political pandering!
You said – 'blogsite' is not a private space, since anyone can access it. I agree. But, the issue is not if it is a public domain or not, it is the individual rights issue. If someone commits SIN by being a Nastik, others have only right to render counseling against such action only; they have no right to ask for punishment, unless it is declared unlawful in the country. As far as I know, it is not unlawful to become Nastik in Bangladesh. So, don't make it a lame excuse to score political points. Many speakers in the Hefajati-rally asked for the caretaker government in their speech. What that tells you. This whole 'Nastik' issue is a political mockery of religion. All those 'Hujurs' who marched to Dhaka yesterday should save their energies for a patriotic march when need arises. This is a non-issue, and does not deserve long-march.
Awami League should understand all these under current before they act on anything. I can bet you - those bloggers and their supporters are all indirectly helping Awami League government policies, and they will be a big plus for Awami League in the coming election. So, my advice to Awami-leaderships is - let them free, before you alienate your big support base.
You have seen polarization of BNP towards center-right parties. Awami League is trying to court both sides. In doing so, they are only alienating their main support base, which is center left young generation. This generation could get turned off from politics, and that will mean victory for BNP/Jamat in the next election.
Jiten Roy
I am a firm supporter of "Freedom of speech" and like to have this "Fundamental right" protected and declare "hate speech" as illegal.
A blog is a private space
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A blog is a private space and not a public one like newspapers, radio ot TV etc.; Why should people go to blog which is not according to their mental levels? Therefore every person has the right to express any opinion in one's privae space. These arrests are the signs of Nazi-style Islamic persecution and must by condemed by all.
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