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Tuesday, May 7, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] One Pakistan by Nehru, Two Pakistans by Indira



The version of Islam they espoused inspired them to cause the demolition. Yes, it was politics too

>>>>>>>>> Nope. If it was "The Version of Islam" who did it. The Talebans (Who accept that version of Islam) would have done it a decade ago when they first came to power. Again like Pakistan the "Islamic label" was used but it was politics which motivated the action.

Like most of Pakistan, Afghanistan is run by "Land lords", "Clan lords" and "War lords". Therefore average Afghan (who are GREAT people!) do not get to make choices. If common people were against such statues, it would have gone long time ago.

There were "Such proposals" from both sides. One Afghan minister even visited USA (Before 9-11) but no one was talking to him. He gave a long interview to Charlie Rose (PBS) as well.

Social equity is one of the most urgent "Islamic priority". Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) even made painful compromises to avoid conflict (The Hudaibiya treaty is one great example). Looking back I would say Afghans were always influenced from out side. From Russia, Pakistan, India, Iran and many other nations consistently influenced their policies. Having said that, Talebans had SOME good policies (Like war against drugs) but they did not have necessary skills to run the country successfully.


Shalom!





-----Original Message-----
From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2013 6:51 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] One Pakistan by Nehru, Two Pakistans by Indira

 
Mr. Rahman
Islam itself did not demolish the Bamiyan Buddha. It were the Taliban who did it. The version of Islam they espoused inspired them to cause the demolition. Yes, it was politics too. Locally it was political Islam. Internationally the politics of indifference. The indifference was so blind that it could nor see the importance of preserving the world heritage. I remember there were some proposals for engaging in talks. 
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On May 7, 2013, at 4:51 AM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

 


Shameless and communal defense of Taliban misdeed by Mr. Rahman. Mr. Rahman, could they destroy some Islamic symbol or establishment to show their anger? How do you call this misdeed childish? Don't you want call this a crime?

>>>>>>>> Now you are being 'Childish". Please grow up!!

Talebans are no more in Afghanistan and no one with any sort of knowledge of Islam cannot support some of the most "Controversial" steps they have taken.


As  I have said, if "Islam" caused these status to be destroyed, it would have been long gone. It was done to make a POLITICAL statement. Similar attacks were done in a Shrine in Mali few months ago. More to do with current politics than anything else.


Shalom!


-----Original Message-----
From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, May 7, 2013 7:25 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] One Pakistan by Nehru, Two Pakistans by Indira

 
Shameless and communal defense of Taliban misdeed by Mr. Rahman. Mr. Rahman, could they destroy some Islamic symbol or establishment to show their anger? How do you call this misdeed childish? Don't you want call this a crime? 

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On May 6, 2013, at 4:20 AM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

 
 
Did the Bamiyan Buddha statues tango with the Islamic fanatics in Afghanistan?


>>>>>>>>>> Guess you are trying VERY hard to "Justify" your hate for Muslims. The political situation is the culprit behind Bamiyan incident.

IF this was done for Islam, these statues would have been gone at least 1000 years ago!!

You sound like "Rush Limbaugh" than an intelligent Bangladeshi. You are not from Idaho, you are from Bangladesh.

In fact, even Taliban's did not destroy it for almost 10 years. When they felt threatened by western powers, they just played a childish game by destroying these statues.


Religious extremism from your religion has destabilized the entire world, Mr. QR. Even Muslim majority countries are victims of such religious extremism. You still don't see it. You have a philosophy of hearing no evil, seeing no evil; therefore, there is no evil. 


>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindly READ my posts BEFORE you make such inaccurate statements member Roy!!

If you are ignorant about Christian puritan movement, Jewish extremists or want to cover up Hindu RSS murderers, it is YOUR problem. I have NEVER wanted to defend Muslim criminals and always support punishing criminals of all religions.

Telling truth requires some work and dedication, it seems you take the "Easy way" and simple make stuffs up about people. WHY?

If you are unable to understand a simple fact that, ALL religions have fanatics among them, you really need some healing. First of all just read Mukto-mona posts. Randomly take 10 posts about religion. You will see who spread more hate.

You inability to understand FACTS should not cause you to go down for "Personal attacks".

The childish allegations cannot even be proven. Simple Islam surely is part of "All religions".

If you some better topics to discuss, kindly proceed.

Shalom!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, May 6, 2013 3:27 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] One Pakistan by Nehru, Two Pakistans by Indira

 
QR: "There are religious extremists among all religious groups."

Religious extremism from your religion has destabilized the entire world, Mr. QR. Even Muslim majority countries are victims of such religious extremism. You still don't see it. You have a philosophy of hearing no evil, seeing no evil; therefore, there is no evil.
 
Also, the fact is – whatever religious extremism exists in other religions is mostly to counter the avalanche of religious extremism from Islam. This is the fact whether you see it or not.
 
Jiten Roy


--- On Sun, 5/5/13, Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] One Pakistan by Nehru, Two Pakistans by Indira
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, May 5, 2013, 11:20 AM

 
Did the Bamiyan Buddha statues tango with the Islamic fanatics in Afghanistan?
 
I think people who are mostly rational need to be clear on the extents of uncivilized behavior in the world by various religious groups. No one or no group is perfect. But no rational person should compare a lesser barbarity with a severe one in order to try to bring the incorrigible barbarians to the world of civilization. For that has proven to be ineffective.
 
Of course, the pseudo-sensible among the hate-mongers compare lesser barbaritie


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