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Saturday, January 11, 2014

RE: [mukto-mona] Does it matter if Hindus suffer?



....by some Muslim "Dr.s" & "Muktijodhdha's" who would break five pens to write ten sentences..."
 
A ugly and nasty expression of a narcissistic and grandiose commentator in the forum without relevance.
 
Again noticeable that,
 
"... and are foolish enough to think that Bangladesh had the power to "order" Indian soldiers to get out of the country.."
 
The above is a kneel down, slavish believe driven idea. The Indian army was not an occupation army at that time. Rather was a rescuing force. Though history tells us that India was unwilling to leave initially then eventually had to leave at last.
 
We all know that no matter how large or small a nation, any sovereign government has a power to order any foreign army to leave the country as per the international law. India followed the law. Practically that actually happened.
 
Being a country man, any one who thinks that Bangladesh did not have the power to order the Indian army to leave, is again a cowardice thought, which has no explanation.
 
 
From: subain1@yahoo.com
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:05:35 -0800
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Does it matter if Hindus suffer?

 
I can see that the statement, "I see Indian army marching in Banglastan", by Dr. Roy would be interpreted as a threat against the Muslims or as a dream of power for the Hindus by some Muslim 'Dr.'s and 'Muktijodhdha's who would break five pens to write ten sentences and are foolish enough to think that Bangladesh had the power to 'order' Indian soldiers to get out of the country in 1972. People like Dr. Roy should keep this in mind while writing in public forums. We do need to realize that, for the foreseeable future, advancement of Bangladesh in terms of sensibility of people would happen through a process of educating the ignorant as well as keeping the idiots calm.  
 
If I were to venture into what India would do if Bangladesh turned into Banglastan, I would say that the Indians would not care unless the barbarity spilled over into their territory. I would be extremely reluctant to speculate that they would send their military into Bangladesh. I would rather make the point that making the country 100% Muslim would not bring internal peace there, as evidenced by many other overwhelmingly Muslim-majority countries of the world. Even that could be misinterpreted as if I cared only about the survival of the non-Muslims, when the reality is that I care about justice, peace and happiness for all people.  
 
SuBain
 
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From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Does it matter if Hindus suffer?
 
Dr. Mushrafi,
I am talking about Banglastan, not Bangladesh. I think you reacted too swiftly. Think about it again.
I asked about your opinion also. Tell me - how India will react if Bangladesh becomes Banglastan, meaning another Taliban country. Do you really think - Indian will welcome it?
 
You were Muktijodhya, so you must be aware of the sacrifice India made to liberate this land from the grip of Pakistan. Do you think they will sit back and relax while Bangladesh again becomes Banglastan?

How could you think that - I dream of such a day when Bangladesh gets rid of religious minorities? Please read my post again with your open mind, and think about it before jumping to conclusion.

Jiten Roy
On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:45 PM, Mohammad Mushrafi <mushrafi@hotmail.com> wrote:
 
"I see Indian army marching in Banglastan"  is it a subtle threat or dream?    While we fully condemn any atrocities by one people to other in the name of religion, secularism, supremacy or else, sadly, some people of Bangladesh in illusion that India will stand by there (personal side???) side against the population of Bangladesh at some point of time if situation "goes wrong". This is a wrong notion and twisted idea. World knows the strength of Bangladesh. So as India. Bangladesh is not Afganistan, and it will never be. 71 proved it. Pakistanis tasted it. forceful cccupation does not work in Bangladesh.   In the liberation war I had a chance to work shoulder to shoulder with Indian army in Burimari defence.  We had many discussion while sitting in the bankers.  In conversation one habildar once told me, "India ub tomhara jamin por age barte hai, ye thore piche hotega. Agar koi char khuti por ek jhupri khara korde usko hotana mushkil hai"(India now marching on your land. It woun't retreat. If some one raise a hut on your land, they will hardly retreat.). Our answer was, as we are fighting Pakistanis now against their "Julum", we will turn our gun to fight you back as well. Ostad commented, " Tum Khatarnak ho" with praise ofcourse.   Some people of Bangladesh feel Pakistan is their right country, some other group of people thinks India is their right country.  But I met Bangali men in Karachi who were treated as second class people of Pakistan. I met my young teacher Ranjit in the street of Dharmatala, Calcutta. Who once secretly left Bangladesh along with his old mother to live in India. He held me on his chest tight and said, brother, I was wrong to live my own motherland. Here in India we are not accepted, we are "Bangaal".  There are plenty of such stories I can tell you. I now live in Australia as migrant. Who knows best then  people like me that "Janmadopi gorioshi Janani Jonmobhumi".   Banglesh is "Jole pure sarkhar tobu matha noyabar noi".  Even thinking of threatening Bangladesh by any nation is foolish. From Afganistan experience USA learnt it better now.  India had foresight and knew it well, that's why demolishing any such doubt in 1971 the army has left Bangladesh as soon as they have been ordered by Bangladesh authority. From East Pakistan, West Pakistan has never learnt it, but they had to surrender and leave.   As a born Bangladeshi keeping anything such "threat idea" against own country is a sin, a crime. Sometimes it brings hatred of other to own-self unknowingly. Dr. Mushrafi, Muktijodhdha Australia
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com From: jnrsr53@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:59:50 -0800 Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Does it matter if Hindus suffer? 
Professor Hossain's article depicts harsh reality of religious minorities, especially Hindus, in Bangladesh. I agree with most of his analysis.

According to his analysis, Hindu oppression will continue until nothing is left to be taken from them. I would like to ponder on Bangladesh after that. What will happen to Awami League, BNP, Jamat, etc.?

I see the death of secularism, and death of Awami League; I see Islamic Banglastan. After that - I see Indian (or US) Army marching on the soil of Banglastan. I see smoke in the air; I hear bombs going off everywhere; etc., etc.

What do you see?

Jiten Roy
On Thursday, January 9, 2014 6:06 PM, ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com> wrote:
 

Please read the article and feel ashamed. Read Hindus as all minorities. 


- AR




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