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[mukto-mona] TISSUE IN THE A.C. ROOM

TISSUE IN THE A.C. ROOM


TISSUE IN A.C. ROOM :
Whatever good quality it could have been, in Bangladesh tissue paper is not still a costly item. In comparison to its price it needs bigger space to store. By this way it has similarity with cotton. The two are also similar in point of inflame ability. Usually this item is produced in quantity as required in the market, such that big storage space is not unnecessarily wasted. Even if a manufacturer for one reason or the other produces excess products, they would look for a less costly space for storage. In emergency these can even be stored in open space and covered with tarpaulin. No one would ever think of storing it in the air-conditioned 16-17th floor of a highly prestigious building because :
(i) Cost of transportation to this height is extremely costly in comparison to its price,
(ii) The product is extremely dangerous because of inflammable quality,
(iii) Air-conditioned room is not essential for this product,
(iv) An air-conditioned floor at that height in a prestigious building is capable of having better use with considerable financial return.

The inquiry committee formed on the fire incident opined that they did not get cooperation from the building authority and that there could have existed some conspiracy in the incident. Did the inquiry committee look into the reason for storing tissue paper at that height ?

The recently published report of the Task-force Interrogation Committee (TIF) among others mentioned the following (Quoted from the report published in News from Bangladesh NFB Sunday March 15, 2009. Some words have been witdrawn for the sake of decency) : "Under the interrogation, Jalil said …….. used to receive money regularly from Basundhara Group chairman Ahmed Akbar Sobhan Shah Alam, Yusuf Abdullah Harun, Beximco Group's vice-chairman Salman F Rahman, ….. .
Abdul Jalil said Aanbeer, youngest son of Basundhara Group chairman Shah Alam gave him Tk 6 lakh in two separate installments in 2003 and 2004.


Babar said …… he received Tk 20 crore to exempt Basundhara Group's chairman's son Shafaet Sobhan from the murder case of Basundhara Group's director Humayun Kabir Sabbir who was killed in a residence at Gulshan in July last year and his body was later found in roadside drain. …..
The investigators asked Babar how he had got an apartment at Gulshan, 20-25 residential plots at Basundhara, over 100 bighas of land and accumulated millions of taka in banks…. "

The above report is sufficient to indicate the level of honesty of the concerned company. The firm that keep such top leaders of the leading political parties in pay role does not need to cooperate with any inquiry committee formed by the government. Also storing the tissue papers in a/c floor of that height does not seem to have taken without any objective. It is known to all that after such incidents companies look for compensation from insurance and other financial organizations. If the possibility of compensation or gain from other sources seem lucrative, then it is possible for any dishonest company to go for destroying their own properties. Did the lucky tissue papers enjoyed extreme honour and then sacrificed themselves to fulfil someone's 'different type' of intention ? Was the saving of the land documents of the clients unintentional ? How would the people receiving money from this company behave in their hard days ? We shall see all these in the future days. In future we shall forget many things, but probably we shall never forget the lucky tissue papers who used to live in the air-conditioned rooms of an extremely prestigious skyscraper of this poor country and who burnt themselves to ashes for a reason we do not know.
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Prof. Bijon B. Sarma, Head Architecture Discipline, Khulna University, Khulna, Bangladesh.


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[mukto-mona] MEET DR. YUNUS IN WASHINGTON D. C.



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MEET DR.  MUHAMMAD YUNUS

2006 Nobel Laureate

WHAT:   PLANNING GRAMEEN HEALTHCARE IN BANGLADESH

WHEN:  TUESDAY,   APRIL  14, 2009,  START  3:00 pm.

WHERE:  MARRIOTT WARDMAN  HOTEL

2660 Woodley Road NW, Washington, DC.

PROGRAM:  See Details Below

CONTACT:  Shadab Mahmud

Direct: 781 939 2639

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Program Guide – Bangladeshi Professionals' Gathering

The Bangladeshi Professionals' Gathering, presided over by Professor Muhammad Yunus, will seek to leverage the expertise, intellect, leadership, and capital within the successful expatriate Bangladeshi population in the United States to build, grow, and sustain Grameen Health for the service of all people of Bangladesh.
Bangladeshi Professionals' Profile: Physicians, Pharmacists, Academicians, Researchers, Engineers, Architects, ICT Professionals, Executives, and Businesspeople, etc.
Date: Tuesday, April 14th, 2009
Location:  Marriott Wardman Park Hotel, 2660 Woodley Road NW, Washington, D.C.


Large Gathering

Time: 3:00pm – 4:00pm
Room: Washington 5
Led by Professor Muhammad Yunus
 

Parallel Breakout Sessions

Time: 4:30pm – 5:30pm
Bangladeshi Professionals' Groups
Medical and Nursing Professionals, Academicians, and Researchers
Engineers, Architects, and ICT (Information and Communication Technology) Professionals
Executives and Businesspeople, Financial service, Public service, and Development  Professionals
Room
Balcony C – 2nd floor
Balcony D – 2nd floor
Maryland C
Moderator
Dr. Santhi Swaroop Vege, Division of Gastroenterology and Hepatology, Mayo Clinic
Syed Omar Ishrak, CEO, GE Medical Systems
Ponni Subbiah, VP and Head, Global Access Strategy, Pfizer Inc.
Sebastian Fries, Director, Strategic Planning, Pfizer Inc.
 

Networking Session

Time: 5:30pm – 6:30pm
Room: Washington 5
Snacks and refreshments served

  

 

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[ALOCHONA] Amoebic self-reproduction



 
    Munshi is an amoeba for sure -- the lowest of the life form in the biological world in this planet and the highest form in the planet Krypton, where he is a Superman of the Action Comics.
 
         Many of his amoebically self-reproduced progeny carry Hindu names like the Zia-loving Avijit Dev (note the indian e-mail addres) or Sunita Paul (the South Asian expert who has changed her origin from Kolkata to Kerala).  I do not have to spell out the imbecile nature of the 'fun' Munshi derives from these nefarious communal pranks.   
 
         Zia is rhe unlawful usurper of a civilian governance whose illegally installed 'Martial Law' single handedly near-destroyed the Constitution of Bangladesh.
 
   For a mirror-image of MBI Munshi and to get an idea where he gets his communal juice, check out the following:
 
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Advani: Congress ignored infiltration from Bangladesh

Hindu - ‎Mar 25, 2009‎
Kheroni (Assam): Senior BJP leader LK Advani on Wednesday accused the Congress of ignoring the problem of unabated infiltration from Bangladesh. ...


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[mukto-mona] HUMANITY,BROTHERHOOD AND PEACE FOR ALL-- WE LOVE ALL RELIGIONS

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Its a real inner voice of Muslims because of 1 or 2 idiots who pretend to be muslims we r all under pressure y  we have same immer parts same heart same lungs same blood colour y this hatered y not love for all work for all peace for all please try to understand our situation they r not muslims who carried out bad things some are hindus some r jews some christians not all are considdered bad dur to these few terrible ppl.
We Request u all i dont care what is ur religion we need unversal brotherhood and peace please promote peace not war.
Its best for u for all for countries and nations.
 
regards
 
MUSLIM COMMUNITY (NEW GENERATION OF MUSIMS AND CARING FOR ALL)
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Hi
We are simple straight and sensible Muslims and want to ask u something

why u ppl writing all this with out reading or knowledge about religion ?
What u ppl know about religions and their real meanings?
Do u ever read bible, Quran or book from ur own religion?

I f yes than:

U know that all the religions stress on peace and humanity
Regardless of color, language or the entire human errs.

We as a Muslim believe in all the prophets and messengers of
GOD and regard and respect them believe in what they say more than our Blood relations.

We are all fed up of all this War mess and exploitation of religions like
u ppl do and want to live and let other live and work and let other
work in peace and happiness.

Y don't u ppl think about doing any good for ur own economy and good
for ur country.

We believe in Construction and Innovativeness.

We love all the ppl from all the religions colors and continents.

We regard and respect all the religions bcus all have same message
A MESSAGE OF PEACE

Please be creative in positive side and think about doing better for ur
country im not asking u to do for us or our country but for u for ur
families and for your country bcus ur country comes first and then others.
We also roam around the web but we teach the lesson of
LOVE, HUMANITY, PEACE & PROSPERITY.

If all of productive brains like urs come to positive activities u earn millions
and live a happy life.

Its a friendly advice for u in spite what u done to torture Muslims but
we are calm cool ppl and believe in forgive and forget bcus its best revenge.

We don't produce bombs, grenades or bullets they r made and invent by
Western nations why blame on others.

Look in Christians, Jews, Muslims, and Hindus and in others religions
some PPL are bad no a RELIGION or COUNTRY is
Criticized bcus Country is just a piece of sand, mud and land and Religion
is name of Antiquates and Living Standard
Classification and shows the right path to go and guide us all to do good
for all and for us, our families.

If u ppl are against Islam because of Taliban's we also dont like their way they r uneducated and living in harsh conditions its their own system y we the normal good business community doomed bcus of them we don't want them here in our side and as a educated and sensible Muslim we don't think that they know much about Islam and Its inner voice real meanings.
We don't want to push our believes on u but only want that if u r
Jew be a good. Positive minded Jew and person.
If u r Christian or Muslim be a good constructive positive and Helping person.
This is voice of all religions and also voice of Islamic Nations.

Where ever we live we do good for others and for that country and think
positive for that country in which we go for visit or reside in other
country we r ambassadors of our country so we have to be care full
about others beliefs and not touching such sensitive matters Which cause
destruction of our economy
ISLAM AND WOMEN
The nature of a woman is fundamentally different from man. Women are more timid, gentle and caring then men. This is the reason why they have been chosen (by Allah) to be the perfect bearers of children. As this is a very vast topic and it is very difficult to cover it in a single article , I am giving brief idea of them
In a truly Islamic society women have the following rights in Islam:
1. The right and duty to obtain education.
2. The right to have their own independent property.
3. The right to work to earn money if they need it or want it.
4. Equality of reward for equal deeds.
5. The right to express their opinion and be heard.
6. The right to provisions from the husband for all her needs and more.
7. The right to negotiate marriage terms of her choice.
8. The right to obtain divorce from her husband, even on the grounds that she simply can't stand him. (pls note that God deeply frowns upon divorce as a solution unless there is hardly any other alternative but it does not mean that men have more right to divorce their wives than women do.

9. The right to keep all her own money (she is not responsible to maintain any relations.

10. The right to get sexual satisfaction from her husband.

11. custody of their children after divorce.

12. to refuse any marriage that does not please them

The Social Aspect of Woman in Islam as a child and an adolescent

Despite the social acceptance of female infanticide among some Arabian tribes, the Qur'an forbade this custom, and considered it a crime like any other murder.

"And when the female (infant) buried alive - is questioned, for what crime she was killed." (Qur'an 81:8-9).


Criticizing the attitudes of such parents who reject their female children, the Qur'an states: When news is brought to one of them, of (the Birth of) a female (child), his face darkens and he is filled with inward grief! With shame does he hide himself from his people because of the bad news he has had! Shall he retain her on (sufferance) and contempt, or bury her in the dust? Ah! What an evil (choice) they decide on? (Qur'an 16: 58-59).

Far from saving the girl's life so that she may later suffer injustice and inequality, Islam requires kind and just treatment for her. Among the sayings of Prophet Muhammad (P.) in this regard are the following :

Whosoever has a daughter and he does not bury her alive, does not insult her, and does not favor his son over her, God will enter him into Paradise. (Ibn Hanbal, No. 1957). Whosoever supports two daughters till they mature, he and I will come in the day of judgment as this (and he pointed with his two fingers held together).

A similar Hadeeth deals in like manner with one who supports two sisters. (Ibn-Hanbal, No. 2104).
The right of females to seek knowledge is not different from that of males. Prophet Muhammad (P.) said:"Seeking knowledge is mandatory for every Muslim". . Muslim as used here including both males and females.
The Social Aspect of Woman in Islam
a) As a child and an adolescent
Despite the social acceptance of female infanticide among some Arabian tribes, the Qur'an forbade this custom, and considered it a crime like any other murder.
"And when the female (infant) buried alive - is questioned, for what crime she was killed." (Qur'an 81:8-9).
Criticizing the attitudes of such parents who reject their female children, the Qur'an states: When news is brought to one of them, of (the Birth of) a female (child), his face darkens and he is filled with inward grief! With shame does he hide himself from his people because of the bad news he has had! Shall he retain her on (sufferance) and contempt, or bury her in the dust? Ah! What an evil (choice) they decide on? (Qur'an 16: 58-59). Far from saving the girl's life so that she may later suffer injustice and inequality, Islam requires kind and just treatment for her. Among the sayings of Prophet Muhammad (P.) in this regard are the following :
Whosoever has a daughter and he does not bury her alive, does not insult her, and does not favor his son over her, God will enter him into Paradise. (Ibn Hanbal, No. 1957). Whosoever supports two daughters till they mature, he and I will come in the day of judgment as this (and he pointed with his two fingers held together).
A similar Hadeeth deals in like manner with one who supports two sisters. (Ibn-Hanbal, No. 2104).
The right of females to seek knowledge is not different from that of males. Prophet Muhammad (P.) said:
"Seeking knowledge is mandatory for every Muslim". (AlBayhaqi). Muslim as used here including both males and females.
b) As a wife:
The Qur'an clearly indicates that marriage is sharing between the two halves of the society, and that its objectives, beside perpetuating human life, are emotional well-being and spiritual harmony. Its bases are love and mercy. Among the most impressive verses in the Qur'an about marriage is the following. "And among His signs is this: That He created mates for you from yourselves that you may find rest, peace of mind in them, and He ordained between you love and mercy. Lo, herein indeed are signs for people who reflect." (Qur'an 30:2 1). According to Islamic Law, women cannot be forced to marry anyone without their consent. Ibn Abbas reported that a girl came to the Messenger of God, Muhammad (P.), and she reported that her father had forced her to marry without her consent. The Messenger of God gave her the choice … (between accepting the marriage or invalidating it). (Ibn Hanbal No. 2469). In another version, the girl said: "Actually I accept this marriage but I wanted to let women know that parents have no right (to force a husband on them)" (Ibn Maja, No. 1873).
Besides all other provisions for her protection at the time of marriage, it was specifically decreed that woman has the full right to her Mahr, a marriage gift, which is presented to her by her husband and is included in the nuptial contract, and that such ownership does not transfer to her father or husband. The concept of Mahr in Islam is neither an actual or symbolic price for the woman, as was the case in certain cultures, but rather it is a gift symbolizing love and affection.
The rules for married life in Islam are clear and in harmony with upright human nature. In consideration of the physiological and psychological make-up of man and woman, both have equal rights and claims on one another, except for one responsibility, that of leadership. This is a matter which is natural in any collective life and which is consistent with the nature of man.
The Qur'an thus states :
"And they (women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them, and men are a degree above them." (Qur'an 2:228). Such degree is Quiwama (maintenance and protection). This refers to that natural difference between the sexes which entitles the weaker sex to protection. It implies no superiority or advantage before the law. Yet, man's role of leadership in relation to his family does not mean the husband's dictatorship over his wife. Islam emphasizes the importance of taking counsel and mutual agreement in family decisions. The Qur'an gives us an example:
"… If they (husband wife) desire to wean the child by mutual consent and (after) consultation, there is no blame on them …" (Qur'an 2: 233). Over and above her basic rights as a wife comes the right which is emphasized by the Qur'an and is strongly recommended by the Prophet (P); kind treatment and companionship.
The Qur'an states :
"… But consort with them in kindness, for if you hate them it may happen that you hate a thing wherein God has placed much good." (Qur'an 4: l9).
Prophet Muhammad Sal al la wa alihi wasalam. (PBUH) said :
The best of you is the best to his family and I am the best among you to my family. The most perfect believers are the best in conduct and best of you are those who are best to their wives. (Ibn-Hanbal, No. 7396) Behold, many women came to Muhammad's wives complaining against their husbands (because they beat them) - those (husbands) are not the best of you. As the woman's right to decide about her marriage is recognized, so also her right to seek an end for an unsuccessful marriage is recognized. To provide for the stability of the family, however, and in order to protect it from hasty decisions under temporary emotional stress, certain steps and waiting periods should be observed by men and women seeking divorce. Considering the relatively more emotional nature of women, a good reason for asking for divorce should be brought before the judge. Like the man, however, the woman can divorce her husband with out resorting to the court, if the nuptial contract allows that. More specifically, some aspects of Islamic Law concerning marriage and divorce are interesting and are worthy of separate treatment. When the continuation of the marriage relationship is impossible for any reason, men are still taught to seek a gracious end for it.
The Qur'an states about such cases :
When you divorce women, and they reach their prescribed term, then retain them in kindness and retain them not for injury so that you transgress (the limits). (Qur'an 2:231). (See also Qur'an 2:229 and 33:49).
c) As a mother:
Islam considered kindness to parents next to the worship of God.
"And we have enjoined upon man (to be good) to his parents: His mother bears him in weakness upon weakness …" (Qur'an 31:14) (See also Qur'an 46:15, 29:8). Moreover, the Qur'an has a special recommendation for the good treatment of mothers : "Your Lord has decreed that you worship none save Him, and that you be kind to your parents …" (Qur'an 17:23).
A man came to Prophet Muhammad (P) asking : O Messenger of God, who among the people is the most worthy of my good company? The Prophet (P) said, Your mother. The man said then who else: The Prophet (P) said, Your mother. The man asked, Then who else? Only then did the Prophet (P) say, Your father. (Al-Bukhari and Muslim). A famous saying of The Prophet is "Paradise is at the feet of mothers." (In Al'Nisa'I, Ibn Majah, Ahmad).
"It is the generous (in character) who is good to women, and it is the wicked who insults them."

Friend don't do that i request u and all ur ppl joining u for bad cause.

Im sending u enough material for ur information so if u have any doubt ask openly.

Regards .

UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD & PEACE BELIEVER

 



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Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house



Politics of getting even has started.
 
Hasina can dig the grave of Zia now and drop the bones in the middle of bay of Bengal.
This is the time for her. You don't know when she will be in power next time.
In Bangladesh, if you drop few taka some one will do it.
 
For Khaleda it may be a set back but her chance will come. She can do the same thing.
Dig up the bones from tungipara and drop them in the ocean.
 
Politics of dead body is our culture . That's part of doing politics in Bangladesh.
I think I can live with that.



--- On Wed, 4/8/09, Avijit Dev <avijit_dev@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: Avijit Dev <avijit_dev@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 3:35 PM

Prime Minister Hasina did spend public fund of 19 cores for her personal purpose during 1996-2001 period and accepted bullet proof mercedez jeep as a bribe from Simon groups. Her father's house was given to him by then the ispahani's owner as a gift so that he does not bother them as a student leader.  --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Shamim Chowdhury" <veirsmill@...> wrote: > >  > Khaleda Zia and her BNP her family members act is full of disgraceful > embarrassment for the nation as well as Gen. Zia. She is the only PM in > the history of our subcontinent who stashed black money in million. She > is disgrace to politics >  >  >  > On July 31st of 2007 Khaleda Zia paid Tk 33 lakh to the National Board > of Revenue (NBR) under an amnesty offered to tax dodgers to get their > undisclosed money legalized. Can you imagine a tax dodger of her kind > still do politics and talk trash about others!!! >  >  >  > Shamim Chowdhury >  > Maryland, USA >  >  >       Committed to PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO KNOW            Vol. 5 Num 1127  > Wed. August 01, 2007               Front Page >  >  > Khaleda avails NBR amnesty > Pays Tk 33 lakh tax to legalise undisclosed money > Unb, Dhaka >  > Ex-prime minister Khaleda Zia yesterday paid Tk 33 lakh to the National > Board of Revenue (NBR) under an amnesty offered to tax dodgers to get > their undisclosed money legalised. >  > The NBR has so far received around Tk 300 crore tax under the amnesty as > a total of 8,559 people took the opportunity to whiten black money > amounting to Tk 1,622 crore, a senior > NBR official told the news agency. > The official confirmed that Khaleda, earlier notified by the > Anti-Corruption Commission for submitting her wealth statement, declared > her undisclosed money yesterday by paying the tax. >  > "She directly deposited the money with Bangladesh Bank and sent a copy > of her statement to the NBR through courier service today," he said > yesterday evening. >  > The BNP chairperson is among those who availed the last-minute chance > before the expiry of the amnesty. However, NBR extended the deadline > till September 30. > The NBR official said there is nothing illegal in this type of payment. > But he declined to give details about Khaleda's total untaxed money > declared today. >  > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, mosharraf khan <mosharrafkhokon@> > wrote: >  > > Dear brothers & sisters, > > > > Greetings from the heart of Bangladesh. >  > > If the widow of retd. Army Chief couldn't reside within > > the cantonment, how the widow of shahid Army officers will reside? Is > that > > place only for the widows? > > > > > > > > As I heard that Shahid Zia had been resided in that house till > > to death from became a major to be the Army Chief, President. The > remembrance > > of Shadhinotar Ghoshok, Shahid President Ziaur Rahman should be keep > up by any > > cost like the 32 no. house & Tongipara of Bangladesher Sthopoti > Bangobandhu > > Sheikh Mujibar Rahman. We have also seen in the past how the Bailey > bridge was > > shifted from Zia Uddan to Hobiganj. > > In near future we are going to be keeping the remembrance > > of Khaleda Bibi & Hasina Bubu!!! > > > > We request to all > > please refrain from vindictive activities and build our beloved > Bangladesh > > together. >  > > Thanks & Regards, > > Mosharraf Khokon > > Poet, Organizer > > Secretary General, WPM > > >     ------------------------------------  [Disclaimer: ALOCHONA Management is not liable for information contained in this message. The author takes full responsibility.] To unsubscribe/subscribe, send request to alochona-owner@egroups.comYahoo! Groups Links  <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alochona/  <*> Your email settings:     Individual Email | Traditional  <*> To change settings online go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alochona/join     (Yahoo! ID required)  <*> To change settings via email:     mailto:alochona-digest@yahoogroups.com      mailto:alochona-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com  <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:     alochona-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com  <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:     http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/  


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RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house



''Chile kan niye geche tai na dekhei chiler pitche dour'' is a bangla proverb, meaning, a man told a second man that a falcon snatched  away his (2nd man's) ear, the second man started running behind the falcon to get back his ear, not even checking whether he has his ear or not. The thoughts and life style that Mr. Enayetullh and people like him lead are quite similar. They have their icons and they are influenced by so much by their icons, that they never want to check whether their icon's sayings and guidances are true and valid or not. The acceptance by them is permanent and one hundred percent, and no change, and no adjustments, and no alternative better way to find or look for. This is the reason why they are so devoid of common sense, away from the truth, partiality expert, and busy only for the self benefit. While someone like this say someone else munafik or having peanut brain, is nothing but world's extreme stupidity. 
 


To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: junaid.sultan@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:54:10 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house



The gentleman puts all his arguments and in the end says he does not want to argue with a "peanut brain owner".
Typical, is not it.
 
Junaid.Sultan

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Enayet Ullah <enayet_2000@...> wrote:
>
> junaid.sultan
>  
> Your argument sound very ridiculous. While Arabesque name supposed to be connoted to be Muslim names, that's necessarily be always true. Keith Ellison, a US senator, who happened to be a Muslim.
>  
> Reverse is true, many Jews & Coptic Christians have Arabesque name, they are not necessarily Muslim.
>  
> Mohammad As[s]ghar, either a munafiq or k'afir or atheist, can be everything but believer. Name can be deceptive, specially when everyone here is very non-personal. You need to judge people by their arguments, not name, that's silly!
>  
> Well, I would not argue with a peanut brain-owner!
>  
>
>
> --- On Wed, 4/8/09, junaid.sultan junaid.sultan@... wrote:
>
>
> From: junaid.sultan junaid.sultan@...
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 9:29 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mr. Dev
>
> At the least your name suggest that you are not a muslim. Without going
> to the argument who is eligible to be called Shaheed and who is not, may
> I know background of your knowledge for the word "shaheed" from Islamic
> perspective.
>
> Mr. Avijit Dev, or what may ever your real name is, for the sake of
> religion you believe in, come out of this "munafiqat". We know, at
> present, people like you or alike you, with fake identities, are
> creating trouble in the educational campuses in particular and every
> other forum in general,only for the sake of politics. Of course with
> lies some times and half truth rest of the time.
>
> Junaid Sultan
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "Avijit Dev" <avijit_dev@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Cyrus wrote:>>I thought a "shahid" is a martyr who sacrifices himself
> or killed in a religious war.<<
> >
> > Just get this, Cyrus, that the word "religion" is foreign to Muslim
> world. The word "religion" is name for the authority of church and that
> had been replaced by political authorities in different guise in
> christian countries. And the concept of "religious war" were waged by
> the crusaders those who were/are wearing a mask of love and for them
> (crusaders) war is peace, freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength.
> >
> > There are no recorded history any Caliphate had ever waged war on to
> spread deen[knowledge] . and to spread knowledge[deen] as Koran says,
> don't compel people to accept deen[knowledge] . Compulsion is not the way
> of peace[Islam] but it is chaotic what crusaders always did and still
> does that in the name of "political economic guise" with a political
> state authority. This distinction must be recognised.
> >
> > As for who deserves to be named shahid? anyone who were wrongfully
> killed or murdered for creating chaos or spreading dogmas are deserved
> to be named shahid. And Shahid Zia is one of them for many people in
> Bangladesh. Just as Quran says: killing someone is killing all humanity
> and saving someone life is saving all humanity.
> >
> > For many people, late president Zia was decent, honest and was working
> for a "just cause" or to build pragmatic society instead of totalitarian
> concept that BAKSAList wanted to achieved.
> >
> > He was the father or architecture of democratic Bangladesh based on
> inclusion of all the members of the society. And it is imperative to
> form a country with all its inhabitants to have a peaceful society and
> otherwise it is chaotic, dogmatic and intentionally mobilising for chaos
> to perpetuate destability for alien causes.
> >
> > There are a few parties under the umbrella of BAL are mobilising for
> chaos in name of democracy for their masters and those should be
> recognised and should be awarded them with a tag "neo-rajakar" . And
> these neo-rajakars' masters' strategy is to divide and conquer and in
> effect, destroying a nation's industrial base and just as destroying the
> moral of a country while we remain infighting to each other.
> >
> > -- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, Cyrus thoughtocrat@ wrote:
> > >
> > > almost 30 years later, I still don't understand why Major Zia was
> given the posthumous title, "Shahid". I thought a "shahid" is a martyr
> who sacrifices himself or killed in a religious war. If memory serves me
> right, he was killed by his own associates. There was no religious war,
> nor there was any self sacrifice. Just curious!
> > >
> > > C
> >
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RE: [ALOCHONA] Awami Politicians Live in Cantonment



They are living in there won DOHS house,DOHS is open for public living,but number 6 moinul road is in a
resticted area.
 
HOHS has created and allocated plot for army personnel, they can live there, they can do politics there.
No one got a house or a plot in DOHS free from Govt. 
 
Kheleda got no.6 Illigally and conditionally and in a special situation. She violated conditions,in the mean time her situation has changed.
 
Govt. did not said that becuase of Kheleda's politic they have cancelled allotment. Govt. said by having 2 govt.houses
Kheleda violated Law and Moinul Rd villa did not allocated lawfully, that why they cancelled Kheleda's Cannt house.
 
So far as I know, if govt. want they can cancel any house which has allocated by previous govt.unlawfully, even it can be out side of resticted area. Hasina govt. can cancel Kheleda's Gulshan house aswell. Same thing Kheleda's govt. did in 2001
by canceling Hasina Rehena house.
 
Mr. Sajjad you are one eyed blind BNP Jamaati cader/gunda.You will never accept this lawfull moral cancel of kheleda's house.
But in "Jonomot Jorif" 75% to 80% Jonogon of Bangladesh has support this decision including some BNP supporter ofcourse.
 
Rgds
 
J.A.Chowdhury
 
 

 


To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: shossain456@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 07:33:53 -0700
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Awami Politicians Live in Cantonment



Prominent Awali politicians Col. Faruk Khan (also a sitting Minister) and Gen. (Retd.) Shafiullah live in Dhaka Cantonment. See the news link below.
So what is wrong with Khaleda Zia living there?
 


From: K. Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 7:28:03 PM
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house

All Avi-Vuths can say whatever they like, who is going to put a cage around their mouths? SKM is a man but you are an imaginary Bhuth. He talks about what he thinks right but you belong to either a Jamat, BNP, or in underground fanatic group, took an Indian name, to intentionally deceive people, and lecturing with worthless sermons. you are one of a kind. While mockery is your intention, who can help you to become normal? There is nothing to be in any religion, or any country but cheating is never appreciated by anyone.
 

To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: avijit_dev@yahoo. co.in
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:42:31 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house



Raisuddin wrote: A hidden character does not really contribute anything to the society except cheating and mockery. Who is this Avijit?

Response: Calling someone a bad name or "hidden character" is one of the first propaganda devices invented by Raisuddin. Whether a non-hidden charater can contribute to society without cheating or mockery is remains to be seen, Mr. Raisuddin. Many people thinks that you are avijit aka SKM in disguise.





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Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house



Mr. Avijit,
You made some rather serious allegations about Shiekh Hasina and her family on this forum and I simply asked you if you had any evidence to back them.
 
From your response earlier and this one I am convinced that you are neither interested in the truth nor interested in an intelligent conversation, ttherefore, this is my last response to you from me.
 
I know I do not have to point anything out, the readers of this forum are capable of seeing through your lies...
 
~Zahid

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Avijit Dev <avijit_dev@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


Those who are being afraid of my statements, are only concocting their own biased views on the matter of public records are avaiable from the registry departments of Bangladesh Govt.

For example, If he needs Hasina's SUB's dolil/record, he can avail himself to find it from the motor veichle office or taxation department to see how much tax did she pay, if any, at all and who bought the SUB for her. There is no reason for Zahid to be afraid of.

Similar thing can be said of how Mujibur Rahman - son of a krishok i.e, paddy grower - who could not afford to pay his even restaurants' dues during his student wing of political career. The owners of those restaurants were afraid of his wrath, so they had to provide foods for Mujib's causes.

If Mr. Zahid wants to sincerely finds the facts of Mujib's house record, I ask him to visit registry office and can find it out for himself and let him figure it out of why ispahani had given him the house in a prime location.

If someone should call Mujib as Bangobhondhu, then it should be anyone who are from the west-bangla because the word Bangobhondhu means friend of bangla. If the word means only to bangladeshi bangla then we are all bangobhondhu. otherwise it is a thoughtcrime in an orewllian sense of the word.

It is another blunder that bangladesh didn't divide herself due to the reason of bangla language instead of ideology of veda vs Quran. Two nation theorists should argue this ideological divide that exist not because of language but because of ideology and many people calls it religion.

Perhaps, some sort of mental divide exist in Zahid's mental prism, so may be, his vision gets blured, when he sees anything to do with his political parties' members are in an unsavory situation and i see his prepaid-patriotism makes him a intellectual prostitute.

----------------------------------------------------------



There are facts, fictions and when you mix facts and fiction to conclude something that is not factually correct(i.e., lies). I am afraid your statements fall in the third category.

Only his political opponents (who participated or benefited from 75 coup) have claimed that Mujib forced Ispahani to give him the house. This was another one of lies after 1975. There are no factual basis for this.

I suggest you do some research on how Sheikh Hasina got her MB SUV (it's not a Jeep). Your suggestion of Simon group bribe or 19 core bribe for PhD is again not factual.

You have given your opinion before, I asked to see if you had any evidence and asked me to go visit Dhanmondi Road 27, not sure how me visiting this house would prove anything...

Reagards,

Zahid

You need to go to Dhamondhi road no 27 where the house of Mujibur Rahman was given by the owner of the company Ispahani.

you got to see hasina's jeep that worth 4 cores taka, was given to her as a bribe by simon groups.

She spent almost 19 cores tk for her Ph.Ds from foreign countries that cost tax payers of bangladesh.

there are also allegations that joy wajid has recieved hefty amount of money for his education expenses according to syed Aslam and i could not find the exact posting in the fourm name khabor.






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[ALOCHONA] How did Sheikh Mujib acquire House in Dhanmondi



The story goes like this. Sheikh never intended to have a house. As a leader of the common he wanted to live in a Chapra House (Bosti).
However, when he became commerce Minister started wearing a Zinnah Cap (You can see it his picture taken during a trip to Peiking, China).
His friends wanted to have him a plot in Dhanmondi. So they raised money and got him the land. Nobody knows who these friends were. Perhaphs Ispahanis were the most important one. He also had a share in Balaka Cinema Hall.
SH

 

From: K. Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:43:23 PM
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house

It has so far been found that this person in disguise is Firoz Alam of New York. Looks like an intentional cover up to link indians and hindus.
 


To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: Chwdhury@hotmail. com
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 18:33:24 +0000
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house




Abijit dada,
Is that your evidence? Dada, u make us smile. My house is Rd#2. Road 27 is not so far. So far as I know,
Bongobondhu got this plot from DIT in 1956. It is a compleately lie,that house was given by Ispahani.What evidance do u have? or just a lie propogonda?
Sheakh Hasina's Mercedes Bullet Proof Jeep was never given by simon group.It is your another lie. This Jeep has been imported by an Awami League MP of Khulna
on his duty free cota.Care taker Govt. loaded a case against that AL MP and that Jeep, last two years was in Dhanmondi thana. What evidance do u have that She spent TK 19 core for her Phd?
 
 
Kind regards
 
J.A.Chowdhury
 
 
 
 
> To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> From: avijit_dev@yahoo. co.in
> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 10:31:29 +0000
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house
>
> You need to go to Dhamondhi road no 27 where the house of Mujibur Rahman was given by the owner of the company Ispahani. you got to see hasina's jeep that worth 4 cores taka, was given to her as a bribe by simon groups. She spent almost 19 cores tk for her Ph.Ds from foreign countries that cost tax payers of bangladesh.
>
> there are also allegations that joy wajid has recieved hefty amount of money for his education expenses according to syed Aslam and i could not find the exact posting in the fourm name khabor.
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, Zahid Hossain <hossainsmz@. ..> wrote:
> >
> > Mr. Avijit Dev,
> > Please cite evidence for your allegations. ...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Zahid
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Avijit Dev <avijit_dev@. ..> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Prime Minister Hasina did spend public fund of 19 cores for her personal
> > > purpose during 1996-2001 period and accepted bullet proof mercedez jeep as a
> > > bribe from Simon groups. Her father's house was given to him by then the
> > > ispahani's owner as a gift so that he does not bother them as a student
> > > leader.
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com <alochona%40yahoogro ups.com>, "Shamim
> > > Chowdhury" <veirsmill@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Khaleda Zia and her BNP her family members act is full of disgraceful
> > > > embarrassment for the nation as well as Gen. Zia. She is the only PM in
> > > > the history of our subcontinent who stashed black money in million. She
> > > > is disgrace to politics
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On July 31st of 2007 Khaleda Zia paid Tk 33 lakh to the National Board
> > > > of Revenue (NBR) under an amnesty offered to tax dodgers to get their
> > > > undisclosed money legalized. Can you imagine a tax dodger of her kind
> > > > still do politics and talk trash about others!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Shamim Chowdhury
> > > >
> > > > Maryland, USA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Committed to PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO KNOW Vol. 5 Num 1127
> > > > Wed. August 01, 2007 Front Page
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Khaleda avails NBR amnesty
> > > > Pays Tk 33 lakh tax to legalise undisclosed money
> > > > Unb, Dhaka
> > > >
> > > > Ex-prime minister Khaleda Zia yesterday paid Tk 33 lakh to the National
> > > > Board of Revenue (NBR) under an amnesty offered to tax dodgers to get
> > > > their undisclosed money legalised.
> > > >
> > > > The NBR has so far received around Tk 300 crore tax under the amnesty as
> > > > a total of 8,559 people took the opportunity to whiten black money
> > > > amounting to Tk 1,622 crore, a senior
> > > > NBR official told the news agency.
> > > > The official confirmed that Khaleda, earlier notified by the
> > > > Anti-Corruption Commission for submitting her wealth statement, declared
> > > > her undisclosed money yesterday by paying the tax.
> > > >
> > > > "She directly deposited the money with Bangladesh Bank and sent a copy
> > > > of her statement to the NBR through courier service today," he said
> > > > yesterday evening.
> > > >
> > > > The BNP chairperson is among those who availed the last-minute chance
> > > > before the expiry of the amnesty. However, NBR extended the deadline
> > > > till September 30.
> > > > The NBR official said there is nothing illegal in this type of payment.
> > > > But he declined to give details about Khaleda's total untaxed money
> > > > declared today.
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com <alochona%40yahoogro ups.com>, mosharraf
> > > khan <mosharrafkhokon@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear brothers & sisters,
> > > > >
> > > > > Greetings from the heart of Bangladesh.
> > > >
> > > > > If the widow of retd. Army Chief couldn't reside within
> > > > > the cantonment, how the widow of shahid Army officers will reside? Is
> > > > that
> > > > > place only for the widows?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As I heard that Shahid Zia had been resided in that house till
> > > > > to death from became a major to be the Army Chief, President. The
> > > > remembrance
> > > > > of Shadhinotar Ghoshok, Shahid President Ziaur Rahman should be keep
> > > > up by any
> > > > > cost like the 32 no. house & Tongipara of Bangladesher Sthopoti
> > > > Bangobandhu
> > > > > Sheikh Mujibar Rahman. We have also seen in the past how the Bailey
> > > > bridge was
> > > > > shifted from Zia Uddan to Hobiganj.
> > > > > In near future we are going to be keeping the remembrance
> > > > > of Khaleda Bibi & Hasina Bubu!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > We request to all
> > > > > please refrain from vindictive activities and build our beloved
> > > > Bangladesh
> > > > > together.
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks & Regards,
> > > > > Mosharraf Khokon
> > > > > Poet, Organizer
> > > > > Secretary General, WPM
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house



So far I know only two Hindus supports Zia are: Mr Gautam Chakravarty and Mr Goyeshar Chandra Roy. All other Hindus support Awami League because of its eternal ties with Bharatiya dadas.
SH

From: Cyrus <thoughtocrat@yahoo.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 4:40:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house

Why is everyone so concerned about Avijit's nationality and religion? Why do you assume that Hindus don't support Zia and only support Sheikh Mujib?
 
What's wrong if a muslim has a name like Avijit? It's a Bengali name and not a "Hindu" name. Names don't have religions, people do.
 
C


From: junaid.sultan <junaid.sultan@ yahoo.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 1:37:30 AM
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Remembrance of Shahid Zia and cantonment house

Mr. Dev.

 

 

I enjoyed your response. It is none of my business if you are a Muslim (Mumin) or not. All I said was that your name suggested that you are not a Muslim. If you were born to Muslim parents my salute to your parents for giving you this name. If you have changed your original name to this name, I pity you. And if you are neo-Muslim and were born with this name my sincerest apologies to you.  On the other hand if you are not a Muslim, say it clearly and loudly. This is absolutely OK.

 

But Mr. Dev if you or anybody else reads your posting, he/she will realize that you are not straight. With all your arguments, you have tried in vain to confuse people. You wrote you are not my kind of Muslim. Rather you prefer yourself a Mumin.  Then what type of Muslim you are? You remind me early days of Islam and I don't want to explain it here who were Munafiqs at that time because it seems you know better than me.

 

I think I wrote that I will not go to the argument of who is eligible for be called "Shaheed" and who is not. Somebody in this column questioned why Zia is called "Shaheed". You, on other hand with your wisdom, tried to justify it by quoting Quran. Mr. Dev. Is not with your logic and understanding Gen. Manzoor should also be called "Shaheed"?

 

Mr. Dev, I really appreciate your love and affection for Gen. Zia. If I have assumed properly, you are a young man with lot of understanding. I am sure a man of your potentials, with the passage of time, when you will be more mature, when you will realize the truth, when your vision will be clearer than today, will comprehend that Gen. Zia has done more harm to the nation then doing good.

 

With lot of regards

 

Junaid Sultan


--- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "Avijit Dev" <avijit_dev@. ..> wrote:
>
> Juniad wrote: At the least your name suggest that you are not a muslim.
>
> response: What makes a muslim a muslim to you, Mr. Juniad? To me to be a mumin is to accept sincerely that there is NO God or goddes but Allah is the Nur of the heaven(skies) and the earth and Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) is the messanger.
>
> Why are you into my name? And what reasons or logic on your part to think that my name is not a muslim name? Does the word mulism exist in Quran? So I m not your kind of Muslim. Rather I prefer myself a Mumin.
>
> To call someone a munafiq, just by what appears to you a uncommon name, does not necesarilly be the only reason to award such an apithet, is, in itself, deserved to be named as munafiq. But I m not going to suspect or doubt who is or who is not munafiq, because Allah knows the best. I m not here to judge people by their name. Do you know the first person who translated the quran from Arabic to Bangla?
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> Juniad wrote: may I know bacground of your knowledge for the word "shaheed" from Islamic perspective.
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> response: Can you please explain to me what the word or the symbol "islamic" means to you? As I have already given ample evidence as to what constitute shahid without any ambiguities. My knowledge of Shahid is drived from Quran and as Quran says: killing someone is killing all humanity and saving someone life is saving all humanity. Anyone who were wrongfully killed or murdered for creating chaos or spreading dogmas are deserved to be named shahid. And Shahid Zia is one of them for many people in Bangladesh.
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> Junaid wrote: Mr. Avijit Dev, or what may ever your real name is, for the sake of religion you believe in, come out of his "munafiqat".
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> response: Mr. Junaid, what is your real name? what is religion? what religion if any, you believe? Come out of what munafiqat?
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> Junaid wrote: with fake identities, are creating trouble in the educational campuses in particular.
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> response: What trouble have I stirred to you or any educational campuses or any forums? and why should i be held responsible for others people's fake identities if any, that in your opinion caused trouble for campuses ro forums? You can't held grudges against me just because someone you man know have caused trouble, or do you expect me to response for them?
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> Juniad wrote: and every other forum in general, only for the sake of politics.
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> response: How can you assure us that you didn't jump on the band wagon of other side of my political end? If people like chalabi and others can go and invite aggressors to implement their political ends by killing 3 millions of population, why can't i just speak up on behalf of the people and make my political cause, just as you'd do the same, I would assume? wouldn't you?
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> Juniad wrote: Of course with lies some times and half truth rest of the time.
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> response: What was truth to chalabi, for many was not truth at all. So who is telling lies and half truth is in the eyes of beholder.
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> Shahid Zia is my hero. He was the architecture of democratic Bangladesh. And He will always remain in my heart as my hero.
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> Down with Baksalism. And anyone who killed/kills people to achieve their political ends are my enemies. if you can refute it mr. junaid.
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> Thank you.
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