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Sunday, April 15, 2012

Re: [mukto-mona] RE: 26 Jamaat leaders held in Satkhira: Police Excess Has No limit Now--editorial

Nobody should take Mr. Hannan's opinion about matters involving
Jamat-i-Islam. He is one of them.


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[mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [notun_bangladesh] Re: Suranjit's son Soumen awarded Tk.5-cror e te lecomm license



who says what does not matter; Mr. Gupta was not responsible for 70lakh taka episode. He was framed and latest info is that, 18 railway people and the former minister is involved in the conspiracy! After all he is Hindu and can't be that corrupt (He is not a saint) like Tariq/Koko/Babar/ or even Abullih--or Nasim? Sorry, BNP will not be able to take advantage from this SAGA!

2012/4/15 Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
 

সুরঞ্জিতকে নিয়ে কে কী বললে ন

স্টাফ রিপোর্টার
১০ এপ্রিল গভীর রাতে গাড়িতে ৭০ লাখ টাকাসহ রেলমন্ত্রী সুরঞ্জিত সেনগুপ্তের এপিএস এবং রেলওয়ের জিএম আটকের ঘটনাটি কয়েক দিন ধরে সব মহলে ছিল ব্যাপক আলোচিত বিষয়। এ প্রসঙ্গে দেশের বিশিষ্ট ব্যক্তি ও রাজনীতিকরা কঠোর ভাষায় সমালোচনা করেছেন। তারা বলেছেন, ৭০ লাখ টাকাসহ এপিএস ও জিএম আটকের পর তাদের ছেড়ে দেয়ার ঘটনা এবং তাদের বক্তব্যে প্রমাণিত হয়, রেলমন্ত্রী এই অর্থ কেলেঙ্কারির সঙ্গে জড়িত। প্রবীণ বয়সে তিনি রাজনীতিকদের অপমান করেছেন। এ ঘটনার মাধ্যমে সরকারের মন্ত্রীদের দুর্নীতির চিত্রও ফুটে উঠেছে। অর্থ কেলেঙ্কারির ঘটনার পর পরই রেলমন্ত্রীর পদত্যাগ করা উচিত ছিল বলে মন্তব্য করে বিচারবিভাগীয় তদন্তের মাধ্যমে এর প্রকৃত রহস্য উদ্ঘাটন এবং জড়িতদের শাস্তির দাবি জানান বিশিষ্ট ব্যক্তিরা।
দেশের স্বার্থে সুরঞ্জিতের অপসারণ প্রয়োজন : অধ্যাপক মোজাফফর : টিআইবির ট্রাস্টি অধ্যাপক মোজাফফর আহমদ উদ্বেগ প্রকাশ করে বৃহস্পতিবার আমার দেশ-কে বলেন, বিজিবি সদর দফতরের ভেতরে অবৈধভাবে বস্তাভর্তি অবৈধ টাকা ও মদ নিয়ে কিছু লোক প্রবেশ করল। এ নিয়ে দীর্ঘ সময় ধরে নাটক হলো। অবশেষে তাদের ছেড়ে দেয়া হলো। এখনও তাদের আইনের আওতায় আনা হয়নি। এটা সত্যিকার অর্থেই অবাক হওয়ার মতো বিষয়। তিনি বলেন, গভীর রাতে বস্তাভর্তি টাকা নিয়ে মন্ত্রীর বাসার উদ্দেশে রওনা দিয়ে আবার তা ধরা পড়ার পরও মন্ত্রী স্বপদে এখনও বহাল আছেন, তা আরও বড় আশ্চর্যের বিষয়! দেশের স্বার্থে তাকে অপসারণ করে ঘটনার প্রকৃত তদন্ত করে অপরাধী যে-ই হোক, তাকে আইনের আওতায় আনা হবে।
সুরঞ্জিতের বিন্দুমাত্র বিবেচনাবোধ থাকলে মন্ত্রিত্ব থেকে সরে দাঁড়াতেন : ড. ইফতেখার : সুরঞ্জিতকে অপসারণের দাবি করে টিআইবির নির্বাহী পরিচালক ড. ইফতেখারুজ্জামান বলেছেন, সুরঞ্জিত সেনগুপ্তের বিন্দুমাত্র বিবেচনাবোধ থাকলে ঘুষ কেলেঙ্কারির অভিযোগ ওঠার সঙ্গে সঙ্গেই তিনি নিজে থেকেই মন্ত্রিত্ব থেকে সরে দাঁড়াতেন। যেহেতু তিনি পদত্যাগ করেননি, তাই তাকে মন্ত্রিত্ব থেকে অপসারণ করে বিচারবিভাগীয় তদন্ত কমিশন গঠনের মাধ্যমে রেল বিভাগের নিয়োগবাণিজ্য, ঘুষ ও দুর্নীতির সব ঘটনার দ্রুত তদন্ত করে দায়ীদের আইনের হাতে সোপর্দ করতে আমরা সরকারের কাছে জোর দাবি জানাচ্ছি। এ কমিটি গঠনের আগে সুরঞ্জিত সেনগুপ্তকেও মন্ত্রীর পদ থেকে অবশ্যই অপসারণ করতে হবে।
সন্দেহের তীর মন্ত্রীর দিকেই যাবে : আসিফ নজরুল : গতকাল একটি পত্রিকায় লেখা উপসম্পাদকীয়তে ঢাকা বিশ্ববিদ্যালয়ের অধ্যাপক আসিফ নজরুল বলেন, ১০ এপ্রিলের প্রতিটি ঘটনা অত্যন্ত রহস্যপূর্ণ এবং স্পষ্টভাবে দুর্নীতির ইঙ্গিতবাহী। সুরঞ্জিত সেনগুপ্তের এপিএসের গাড়িতে টাকা উদ্ধারের ঘটনার পর অধিকাংশ পত্রপত্রিকায় যেসব তথ্য এসেছে, তা একত্র করলে সব সন্দেহের তীর মন্ত্রীর দিকে যাবে। ১০ এপ্রিলের ঘটনা সম্পর্কে তিনি বিভিন্ন গণমাধ্যমে যে বক্তব্য দিয়েছেন, তা চরম স্ববিরোধী। তার বক্তব্যের সঙ্গে রেলওয়ের জিএম এবং নিরাপত্তা কর্মকর্তার বক্তব্যেও প্রচুর গরমিল রয়েছে। এসব তথ্যে যা প্রতীয়মান হয়, তাতে পৃথিবীর যে কোনো প্রকৃত গণতান্ত্রিক রাষ্ট্রে অভিযুক্ত মন্ত্রী পদত্যাগ করতে বাধ্য হতেন (এমনকি সরকারকেই হয়তো পদত্যাগ করতে বাধ্য হতে হতো) এবং তাকে বিচারের সম্মুখীন হতে হতো।
মন্ত্রীর ব্যক্তিগত হিসাব চেয়ে চিঠি দেয়া হবে না : দুদক চেয়ারম্যান : দুদক চেয়ারম্যান গোলাম রহমান বৃহস্পতিবার আমার দেশ-কে বলেন, রেল বিভাগের যাবতীয় অনিয়ম, দুর্নীতি, ঘুষ লেনদেন ও নিয়োগবাণিজ্যের ঘটনা অনুসন্ধানের জন্য আমরা একটি কমিটি গঠন করে দিয়েছি। আইনশৃঙ্খলা বাহিনীর হাতে টাকাসহ যারা ধরা পড়েছে, তাদের ব্যক্তিগত সম্পদের হিসাব চাওয়া হবে। অনুসন্ধানে যারাই জড়িত বলে প্রমাণিত হবে, তাদের বিরুদ্ধে মামলা দায়েরসহ অন্যান্য আইনানুগ ব্যবস্থা নেয়া হবে। তদন্তে মন্ত্রীর বিরুদ্ধে অভিযোগ প্রমাণিত হলে, তাকেও আইনের আওতায় আনা হবে। তবে আপাতত মন্ত্রীর ব্যক্তিগত সম্পদের হিসাব চেয়ে কোনো চিঠি দেয়া হবে না বলে জানান তিনি।
কালবিলম্ব না করে সুরঞ্জিতের অপসারণ চাই : এম হাফিজউদ্দিন : তত্ত্বাবধায়ক সরকারের সাবেক উপদেষ্টা ও টিআইবির সাবেক চেয়ারম্যান এম হাফিজউদ্দিন খান বলেন, গভীর রাতে ১ কোটি কিংবা ৭০ লাখ টাকা ও অবৈধ মদ নিয়ে মন্ত্রীর বাসায় যাচ্ছিলেন তারই অধীন কিছু লোক। আর এ ঘটনা তদন্ত করার জন্য মন্ত্রীরই পিএসকে দিয়ে তদন্ত কমিটি গঠন করা হয়েছে। আমি মনে করি, এটা জাতির সঙ্গে উপহাস ছাড়া আর কিছুই নয়। তিনি বলেন, এটা কোনো ছোটখাটো বিষয় নয়। আমি মনে করি, সুরঞ্জিত সেনগুপ্তকে কালবিলম্ব না করে মন্ত্রিত্ব থেকে অপসারণ করে একটি উচ্চপর্যায়ের নিরপেক্ষ ও গ্রহণযোগ্য বিচারবিভাগীয় তদন্ত কমিটি গঠন করা উচিত।
রেল মন্ত্রণালয়ের তদন্ত কমিটি আইওয়াশ ছাড়া কিছুই নয় : ড. বদিউল আলম : সুশাসনের জন্য নাগরিক-সুজন সম্পাদক ড. বদিউল আলম মজুমদার বলেন, এপিএস ও জিএম বস্তাভর্তি টাকা নিয়ে গভীর রাতে মন্ত্রীর বাসায় যাচ্ছিলেন—এটা এখন আর গোপন বিষয় নয়। এরই মধ্যে মিডিয়াগুলো তথ্যপ্রমাণসহ তা প্রকাশ করেছে। কাজেই এটা নিয়ে তামাশার কিছু নেই। তিনি বলেন, রেল মন্ত্রণালয় যে দুটি তদন্ত কমিটি গঠন করেছে, তা আইওয়াশ ছাড়া আর কিছুই নয়। এ কমিটি যে সঠিক তদন্ত করতে পারবে না, সেটা বুঝতে কোনো বিশেষজ্ঞ লোকের প্রয়োজন নেই। দেশের মর্যাদারক্ষার স্বার্থে সরকারের উচিত হবে অনাকাঙ্ক্ষিত ও অনভিপ্রেত এই ঘটনা তদন্ত করার জন্য সত্যিকারের নিরপেক্ষ ও প্রভাবমুক্ত তদন্ত কমিটি গঠন করে প্রকৃত দোষীদের আইনের হাতে সোপর্দ করা। সরকার এটা করতে ব্যর্থ হলে এর সম্পূর্ণ দায়দায়িত্ব সরকারকেই বহন করতে হতে পারে।
অর্থ কেলেঙ্কারি দুঃখজনক : হানিফ : রেলমন্ত্রী সুরঞ্জিত সেনগুপ্তের এপিএসের অর্থ কেলেঙ্কারির ঘটনাকে দুঃখজনক বলে মন্তব্য করে বৃহস্পতিবার দলের এক বৈঠকে আওয়ামী লীগের যুগ্ম সাধারণ সম্পাদক ও প্রধানমন্ত্রীর বিশেষ সহকারী মাহবুব-উল-আলম হানিফ বলেন, দু'দিন আগের এই খবরটি আমাদেরও দৃষ্টিগোচর হয়েছে। এটা অত্যন্ত দুঃখজনক ঘটনা। এর তদন্ত হচ্ছে। তদন্ত শেষ না হওয়া পর্যন্ত কোনা প্রতিক্রিয়া জানানো যাচ্ছে না। নিরপেক্ষ তদন্ত কমিটিও গঠন করা হয়েছে। তদন্তের মাধ্যমেই বেরিয়ে আসবে, কার টাকা কীভাবে এলো। প্রয়োজনে দলীয়ভাবেও তদন্ত কমিটি গঠন করা হবে।
নিরপেক্ষ তদন্তের স্বার্থেই সুরঞ্জিতকে পদত্যাগ করা উচিত : মওদুদ : গতকাল জাতীয় প্রেস ক্লাবের এক অনুষ্ঠানে বিএনপির স্থায়ী কমিটির সদস্য ব্যারিস্টার মওদুদ আহমেদ বলেছেন, সুরঞ্জিত বাবুর নিজের আত্মসম্মানবোধ থেকেই পদত্যাগ করে দৃষ্টান্ত স্থাপন করা উচিত। সুরঞ্জিতের উদ্দেশে তিনি বলেন, আপনি এ পদে থাকলে কোনো তদন্তের সুফল জনগণ দেখতে পারবে না। তাই নিরপেক্ষ তদন্তের স্বার্থেই আপনাকে পদত্যাগ করতে হবে। তিনি বলেন, সুরঞ্জিত বাবু যদি নিজেকে নির্দোষ মনে করেন তাহলে পদত্যাগ করে কারা তার বিরুদ্ধে যড়যন্ত্র করছে, তা উন্মোচন করুক। এ ঘটনার সুষ্ঠু তদন্ত না করতে পারলে বুঝে নেব, সরকারের সবাই এটার সঙ্গে জড়িত।
পদত্যাগ করে রাজনৈতিক পরিচয় রক্ষা করুন, নইলে অন্য পেশায় যান : এ এফ ফখরুল : ঢাকা রিপোর্টার্স ইউনিটিতে গতকাল এক অনুষ্ঠানে সাবেক মন্ত্রী ও আওয়ামী লীগের সাবেক প্রেসিডিয়াম সদস্য এ এফ ফখরুল ইসলাম মুনশী সুরঞ্জিত সেনগুপ্তকে পদত্যাগ করার আহ্বান জানিয়ে বলেছেন, রাজনীতির নৈতিক দায়িত্বের বলে মন্ত্রিত্ব থেকে পদত্যাগ করুন। রাজনৈতিক পরিচয় রক্ষা করুন। না হয় অন্য পেশায় চলে যান।
রেলমন্ত্রীকে গ্রেফতার করা উচিত : কর্নেল অলি : বুধবার জাতীয় প্রেস ক্লাবে এক আলোচনা সভায় লিবারেল ডেমোক্র্যাটিক পার্টি (এলডিপি) সভাপতি ড. কর্নেল (অব.) অলি আহমদ এমপি বীরবিক্রম বলেছেন, রেলমন্ত্রী সুরঞ্জিত সেনগুপ্তের এপিএসের গাড়ির ড্রাইভার বলেছেন, 'গাড়িতে পাওয়া ৭০ লাখ টাকা ঘুষের টাকা।' এপিএস বলেছেন, 'মন্ত্রীর বাসায় যাচ্ছি।' এতে স্পষ্টভাবে প্রমাণিত হয়, ওই টাকার সঙ্গে মন্ত্রীর সম্পর্ক রয়েছে। ওই টাকা দেয়ার জন্য মন্ত্রীর বাসায় নিয়ে যাওয়া হচ্ছিল। অবৈধভাবে টাকা নেয়ার অভিযোগে রেলমন্ত্রীকে গ্রেফতার করা উচিত বলে মন্তব্য করেন তিনি।
শেষ বয়সে রাজনীতিবিদদের অপমানিত করেছেন সুরঞ্জিত : সাকা চৌধুরী : রেলমন্ত্রী সুরঞ্জিত সেনগুপ্ত শেষ বয়সে এভাবে ধরা খেয়ে রাজনীতিবিদদের অপমানিত করেছেন বলে মন্তব্য করেছেন কারাগারে আটক বিএনপির স্থায়ী কমিটির সদস্য সালাহউদ্দিন কাদের চৌধুরী এমপি। বৃহস্পতিবার তিনি আন্তর্জাতিক অপরাধ ট্রাইব্যুনালের কার্যক্রম শেষে সাংবাদিকদের প্রশ্নের জবাবে এ মন্তব্য করেন।

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Subject: Fw: [notun_bangladesh] Re: Suranjit's son Soumen awarded Tk.5-crore te lecomm license
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 18:01:21 GMT



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It's Sengupta telecoms

Regulator gives Suranjit's son lucrative interconnections licence

Rail Minister Suranjit Sengupta's son Soumen Sengupta was awarded a Tk 5-crore telecommunication gateway licence yesterday, just two days after the railwaygate scandal involving the minister's close aide and two top railway officials.

Soumen, who worked at internet service provider Agni Systems Ltd six months ago, had to pay the telecom regulator Tk 5 crore in licence fees. The amount was paid between March 2 and April 2.Prior to his joining at Agni Systems, Soumen worked for Nextgen Networks, an IT firm, from March 2010 to May 2011, according to his profile on social networking site LinkedIn.

�He [Soumen] withdrew around Tk 50,000 a month in salaries from Agni Systems,� a director of the firm told The Daily Star, wishing anonymity.

According to Suranjit's wealth statement submitted to the Election Commission before the 2008 election, his annual income amounted to Tk 7 lakh, whose sources were house rent, fisheries and farm land.

Suranjit became railway minister in December last year. Before that he was the chief of the parliamentary standing committee on law, justice and parliamentary affairs ministry.A seven-time parliamentarian, he is currently under fire following the recovery of Tk 70 lakh from the microbus of his Assistant Personal Secretary Omar Faruq Talukder on Monday night.

BGB members seized the money and detained Faruq, his driver Ali Azam, Railway General Manager (East) Yusuf Ali Mridha and railway's security officer Enamul Huq after the driver drove the microbus into BGB's Pilkhana headquarters in the capital.

At one stage, Azam started shouting that there were stashes of illegal money in the vehicle, prompting the BGB men to detain them and seize the money.A number of intelligence officials told The Daily Star on Wednesday that the microbus was actually on its way to Suranjit's Jigatola residence, a claim refuted by the minister.

The minister came to the spotlight again yesterday after Bangladesh Telecommunication Regulatory Commission (BTRC) awarded his son's company, Sengupta Telecommunication Limited, an interconnection exchange licence.BTRC Chairman Zia Ahmed said Soumen himself collected the licence and that all the due process was followed in awarding the licence. Of the 22 licences awarded, 21 were handed over yesterday, he added.

A telecom expert said setting up a telecommunication company requires an investment of Tk 30 crore at least. Despite repeated attempts, Soumen could not be reached for comments on the source of the money he paid in licence fees.


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[ALOCHONA] RE: 26 Jamaat leaders held in Satkhira: Police Excess Has No limit Now--editorial



            
        Great news!  The whole nation has been victimized most cruelly by Moududibadi Jamaat members. How much longer do we need to tolerate their oppression in the name of a religion whose basic moral precepts are not followed by the Jamaatis themselves?

              Attention!  Notice how they refer to themselves! Delawar Hossain Sayidee used to refer to Jamaat like that all the time, at every 'waz mahfil', always stressing that Jamaat is a constitutionally legal political party.   How ultra-conscious! The TRUTH is it is NOT -- not according to 1972 Constitution.

<<  What is illegal if members of a legal political party hold a meeting in a house. >>

             Complaining about Police excess? What about all the Jamaati excesses of murder and mayhem the desh-basi tolerated ever since the Independence? Any complain about those inhuman cruelties committed by Jamaat will be labeled as "anti-Islamic" and this has been going on with impunity.

             Does any body see any faint connection between this bullying tactics of Jamaat and democracy?







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Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:39:46 +0600
Subject: [mukto-mona] 26 Jamaat leaders held in Satkhira: Police Excess Has No limit Now--editorial

 

26 Jamaat leaders held in Satkhira: Police Excess Has No limit Now

UNB has reported from , Satkhira that Police arrested 26 leaders of Jamaat-e-Islami in a house at Sora village in Shyamnagar upazila of Satkhira on Saturday.Alamgri Hossain, officer-in-charge of Shyamnagar Police Station, said the Jamaat leaders, all rokons of the organisation, were arrested while holding a "clandestine" meeting to carry out subversive activities against the state.

The arrested include Shyamnagar upazila unit nayeb-e-ameer of Jamaat Maulana Oheduzzaman, Alamgir Kabir, Israfil, Abdul Aziz, Abdul Mannan, Mofazzal Hossain, Lutfar Rahman, Rafiqul Islam, Aminur Rahman, Arafat Hossain, Motaleb Hossain, Abdur Rahman, Siddique Gazi, Abu Bakkar Gazi, Hafizur Rahman, Imam Hossain and Abdul Kalam.The OC said acting on a tip-off they conducted a drive at the house of Jamaat leader Abdul Jalil in the evening and arrested them.The arrested will be charged with sedition, he added.
We deplore such police action. They are doing it all the time, particularly against Jamaate Islami.What is illegal if members of a legal political party hold a meeting in a house. This is the right of all organization under the law and the constitution. We ask the government and the police authorities to restrain the field level officers. The press should also write against such anti-democratic action. Unfortunately leftist and secular press have also become too partisan. As a result the police audacity has increased. A common front of press could stop lot of injustice.

 




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        Great news!  The whole nation has been victimized most cruelly by Moududibadi Jamaat members. How much longer do we need to tolerate their oppression in the name of a religion whose basic moral precepts are not followed by the Jamaatis themselves?

              Attention!  Notice how they refer to themselves! Delawar Hossain Sayidee used to refer to Jamaat like that all the time, at every 'waz mahfil', always stressing that Jamaat is a constitutionally legal political party.   How ultra-conscious! The TRUTH is it is NOT -- not according to 1972 Constitution.

<<  What is illegal if members of a legal political party hold a meeting in a house. >>

             Complaining about Police excess? What about all the Jamaati excesses of murder and mayhem the desh-basi tolerated ever since the Independence? Any complain about those inhuman cruelties committed by Jamaat will be labeled as "anti-Islamic" and this has been going on with impunity.

             Does any body see any faint connection between this bullying tactics of Jamaat and democracy?







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From: sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:39:46 +0600
Subject: [mukto-mona] 26 Jamaat leaders held in Satkhira: Police Excess Has No limit Now--editorial

 

26 Jamaat leaders held in Satkhira: Police Excess Has No limit Now

UNB has reported from , Satkhira that Police arrested 26 leaders of Jamaat-e-Islami in a house at Sora village in Shyamnagar upazila of Satkhira on Saturday.Alamgri Hossain, officer-in-charge of Shyamnagar Police Station, said the Jamaat leaders, all rokons of the organisation, were arrested while holding a "clandestine" meeting to carry out subversive activities against the state.

The arrested include Shyamnagar upazila unit nayeb-e-ameer of Jamaat Maulana Oheduzzaman, Alamgir Kabir, Israfil, Abdul Aziz, Abdul Mannan, Mofazzal Hossain, Lutfar Rahman, Rafiqul Islam, Aminur Rahman, Arafat Hossain, Motaleb Hossain, Abdur Rahman, Siddique Gazi, Abu Bakkar Gazi, Hafizur Rahman, Imam Hossain and Abdul Kalam.The OC said acting on a tip-off they conducted a drive at the house of Jamaat leader Abdul Jalil in the evening and arrested them.The arrested will be charged with sedition, he added.
We deplore such police action. They are doing it all the time, particularly against Jamaate Islami.What is illegal if members of a legal political party hold a meeting in a house. This is the right of all organization under the law and the constitution. We ask the government and the police authorities to restrain the field level officers. The press should also write against such anti-democratic action. Unfortunately leftist and secular press have also become too partisan. As a result the police audacity has increased. A common front of press could stop lot of injustice.

 




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Re: [mukto-mona] Allama "Mashriqi’s role eulogized"



I have been wondering for quite a while, how/why did cow slaughtering become a like a religious ritual for the Muslims in the Indian sub-continent? I could not find any answer from my readings. I asked that question in this forum also, for anyone to answer if they knew it. So far I have not gotten any answer.
 
I know, most Muslims are too religious, which would keep their underclass status in the world for a long time. I do not have much sympathy for that, because a complaining underclass, which is likely to turn into a majority in the world, can not be good for peace on Earth. I do not like a lot of things in their holy books that they want to follow literally. However, cow slaughtering is not even a religious requirement for them; yet it has become like a religious ritual.
 
With no external answer to my question, the logical answer that comes in my mind is that it probably was due to the Muslim attempt of proving that they were far from being Hindu. Thus, the animal that Hindus worshipped had to be slaughtered by the Muslims with fanfare.
 
Whatever the real reason behind the cow-slaughtering ritual, I have no doubt that at least a portion of the Hindu-hating mindset of the Muslims has its origin in the Hindu caste system. The so-called low-caste Hindus were treated like sub-humans by the so-called high-caste Hindus. Conversion of a low-caste Hindu to Islam was like a slave finding a territory where he is a free man, irrespective of whether Islam was otherwise a great religion or not. Even after that conversion, he was treated like a sub-human by the so-called high-caste Hindus. Thus, while he found a comfortable zone among the Muslims, his mind remained disgusted with the Hindus. For the so-called high-caste Hindus, he had hatred; for the so-called low-caste Hindus, he had pity.
 
Does this sound like the British colonialism? Blaming the British Colonial Rule, the Americans, and the Western Imperialism for all the woes of the subcontinent has been a poor-quality fashion for many intellectuals of the sub-continent. I think we need to look at the faults of ourselves and our forefathers more honestly and critically, for real progress in our sub-continent.
 
Sukhamaya Bain

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Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Allama "Mashriqi's role eulogized"
 
Good points. I am more inclined to believe that Hindu-Muslim communalism was a 'gift' from our British colonial masters. 
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On Apr 12, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Yes, this is a serious point. The communal hatred was first brought into the Indian society by the higher caste Hindus through their discriminatory practices towards Muslims and the lower caste Hindus, which ultimately divided India. In fact, Pakistan may not be created without the support of the lower caste Hindus. 
As you know, the birth of Pakistan has broken so many families and communities apart. Pakistani administrations knew that, and they also knew that - they will need high level of communal hatred against India to keep those families and communities apart.  As a result, they have been brainwashing their people to keep communality alive in Pakistan. If the level of hatred is reduced someday, those countries (Bangladesh, India, and Pakistan) may become confederate states.
My observation is that - Hindu-Muslims hatred, in the Indo-Pak-Bangladesh subcontinent, is now much more prominent than that of the undivided India. But, the level of hatred between Hindus and non-Muslims (Sikh, Buddhists, Christians, Jews, etc.) did not change as much from the undivided Indian period. These facts lend support for my point of view.
In fact, the Israel and Palestinian story is similar. A sovereign Palestinian state, created  through communality,  will not bring peace in that region also. The hatred and suffering will keep rising. Permanent peace cannot be attained through hatred. The best option, therefore, is amicable confederation also.
 
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RE: [mukto-mona] RE: [KHABOR] FW: Bangla New Year Day--editorial Asia Post



Respected brother,

I can argue on the points you have raised but I do not want.

 

I can only submit if Prophet Muhammad was sent in Bangladesh, the details of culture probably would have been different but not the basics such as values, creeds of faith, content of revelation, and the basic laws. I am saying this on the basis of faith but any person who does not have Islamic faith may think differently.

 

Dear brother, where do you live? I may ask you sometimes information I require or your views on certain things .

 

Shah Abdul Hannan

 

 

 


From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:08 PM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] RE: [KHABOR] FW: Bangla New Year Day--editorial Asia Post

 

 

Hannan Saheb,

Thank you for saying that the so called “Muslim-Culture” has Arabian cultural influence. You are an open minded religious person, who I can talk to for hours. May I respectfully present a few more points in this regard?

You said: “Muslim culture vary from place to place partly as Islam allows acceptance of Urf or local custom if it is not against Tauhid and does not contain Shirk and Fahisha ( indecency).”

 

When you say “…if it is not against Tauhid and does not contain Shirk and Fahisha ( indecency)” you are measuring against STANDARDs that came from a different region (Arabia), and you are trying to comply with it. You are also assuming that this is the bottom line. Before you do so please think about the following scenario – let’s assume Prophet and writers of those Islamic religious books were from Bangladesh; what kind of cultural practices they would have prescribed for the Muslim Ummah? Definitely, the religion would have been the same, but the cultural practices for Muslims would have been the local Bengali customary practices. As you see – religious culture reflects local culture, and culture is not absolute, but – the religion is.

 

Therefore, we should not mix up religion with culture. Logically, I would think - even if local practices do not comply with “Tauhid” it should be fine with Islam.  And the standard for Shirk and Fahisha ( indecency) has universal norms; I agree with you on those points.

 

Regards,

 

Jiten Roy



--- On Sat, 4/14/12, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:


From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] RE: [KHABOR] FW: Bangla New Year Day--editorial Asia Post
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 14, 2012, 8:10 PM

 

Respected Jiten sahib,

It is true time has changed. It is also true that Muslim culture has some Arab root, however ninety percent of it is based on teachings of the Quran and Sunnah and in that sense Muslim culture is universal for Muslims. Muslim culture vary from place to place partly as Islam allows acceptance of Urf or local custom if it is not against Tauhid and does not contain Shirk and Fahisha ( indecency).

 

Shah Abdul Hannan

 


From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 1:07 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: [KHABOR] FW: Bangla New Year Day--editorial Asia Post

 

 

Hannan Saheb,

 

Our childhoods were in a different era. Now it is internet era. We have many things now that we did not have then; also we do many things that we did not do then. We have cell phones now; boys and girls can talk as long as they want, which we could not do. These are modern amenities, and they are here to stay. You should not stay in your childhood forever. You cannot stop progress in the society because it was not there before.

 

Also, what you call your religious culture is not your Bengali Muslim culture; it’s the Arabian Culture. You are trying to emulate that culture as your religious culture. Every society has distinct culture. Religion is separate from culture. Our Bengali culture is richer than Arabian Culture. Don't try to shun your culture to embrace some foreign culture. Having said that, I should admit - we cannot eliminate the influence of other cultures totally in this day and age. Therefore let’s admit that truth and move on. Our kids are having fun with the New Year Celebration; you should be happy too and enjoy the festivity with them. Yet, you are suffering inside. God likes us more when we have fun. God is happy when we are happy.

 

Jiten Roy



--- On Sat, 4/14/12, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:


From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
Subject: [mukto-mona] RE: [KHABOR] FW: Bangla New Year Day--editorial Asia Post
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com , mezbahjowher@yahoo.com
Cc: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com , "'sahannan'" <sahannan@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, April 14, 2012, 7:32 AM

 

Jowher  sahib,

 

I have not said that women should stay in home only. You know Islam permits women to go even in battlefields .I have found out that most women I have talked do not like body exposures before men folk ( dress is  becoming too revealing with Urna—breast and head cover-- in hand or neck or shoulder, sometimes transparent dress ) .Most  women  I oppose this.

I am 73.In my childhood in various places (I moved with my father who was in service) I did not see any observance in Ist Baishakh, not even any rich food in home. Literature show that some melas used to be held in some places where some toys etc used to be sold.

 

What is happening now is corporate capitalists business promotion (buying new dress, new ornaments, bangles etc) and invasion of western and Indian nude culture of exploiting women’s body. The bad boys use this day to harass girls and touch their bodies. This is the truth.

Some secular elements are trying to make this an alternative to Eid in the name of so-called non-communalism which in effect means promotion of idolatry of various kinds instead of Tauhidi culture .

 

Shah Abdul Hannan  

 


From: khabor@yahoogroups.com [mailto: khabor@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mohammad Rahman
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:57 PM
To: khabor@yahoogroups com; mezbahjowher@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [KHABOR] FW: Bangla New Year Day--editorial Asia Post

 

 

I think Mr Hannan didn't advocate to kill anyone and it is against the Islamic teachings and observing Pahelabaisak is debatable. There is need of scholarly discussion to observe it in an Islamic way. We shouldn't throw the blame of arrow to someone for nothing. JAK.

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From: mezbah jowher <mezbahjowher@yahoo.com>;
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com < khabor@yahoogroups.com >;
Subject: Re: [KHABOR] FW: Bangla New Year Day--editorial Asia Post
Sent: Sat, Apr 14, 2012 9:47:09 AM

 

 

Thanks Mr. Hannan for welcoming Bengali New Year.

However, Mr. Hannan writes in his messg that it's not advisable to make concert, dances etc where there's scope of women's body exposure that might inflict lust in male's heart especially in the hearts of Islamic minded people. Very correct. Women should stay inside home & observe Baishakh in Islamic way such as cooking rich food for children, making some additional Rakaats etc.

But I'm in a puzzle. Some Muslims don't pay heed to this Islamic prescription. Instead they flock under Ramna Batomul & in NAAM Center , sing songs of non-Muslim poets (especially Kafir Tagore's), use drums-Harmoniums-flutes which is definitely un-Islamic practice.

 

What’s the Islamic way to combat these ignorant people? Is it permissible to fight against these infidels & throw bombs (as staged in 2001) so that fear afflicts in their minds in such a magnitude that they never dare to come out & participate in such congregations?

Would Mr. Hannan be kind enough to make honest comment on this issue? As he possesses great knowledge on Islamic matters than we, it would help us know the correct way.

Regards.

MJ     

 

 

 

From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
To: dahuk@yahoogroups.com; khabor@yahoogroups.com ; mahdiunite@yahoogroups.com ; 'sahannan' <sahannan@yahoogroups.com>; witness-pioneer@yahoogroups.com; political_analysts@yahoogroups.com ; progressive-muslim@yahoogroups.com ; 'Sherwani Mustafa' <sherwanimk@yahoo.com>; su_maiya1@yahoo.com; lutfulb2000@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:43 AM
Subject: [KHABOR] FW: Bangla New Year Day--editorial Asia Post

 

 

 

We welcome the new year in Bangla calendar. We wish people happiness and peace in the next year. We also urge people to uphold national and decent culture and avoid indecencies which have been imported recently from abroad. Entertainment has, in the name of concert and dancing, has become a competition of mainly women body exposures and display of costume, not only in Baishakh but also in most entertainment shows and concerts. This must be avoided. Anything contrary to Islamic culture which is the religion of a great majority of Bangladesh should not be encouraged.”

 

 

 

Bangla New Year Day

 

Different cultural organizations have taken preparation to celebrate Pahela Baishakh, first day of Bangla New Year, tomorrow in the capital. Around 14,000 members of law enforcement agencies will be deployed on the occasion in the capital to ensure security of the festival goers.The main programme of the day will begin with the sunrise at Ramna Batamul, where artistes of Chhayanaut, a cultural organisation, will sing the traditional song of Rabindranath Tagore--"Esho Hey Baishakh".A Mangal Shobhajatra, a celebratory procession on the occasion of Pahela Baishakh, also the main festival of different indigenous communities, will start from the Faculty of Fine Arts of Dhaka University in the morning.

Bangladesh Betar and television channels will air special programmes while newspapers will publish special supplements on the occasion.Bangladesh Shishu Kalyan Parishad will organise a two-day programme, including discussion and cultural function, on its premises on Topkhana Road.Songkranti Alliance will organise a concert today on Kalabagan playground, while Banani Society will organise programmes at Banani Park tomorrow.Sargam Lalitakola Academy will organise a competition for children at Sector-3 in Dhanmondi tomorrow. Westin Hotel will celebrate the occasion through holding traditional bioscope show, snakes and ladders (sap ludu) and horse ride.Dhaka Bashi (residents of Dhaka) will bring out a procession today at 11:00am from the premises of Bangladesh Shishu Academy, while Chittagong Samity will hold cultural programmes at 9:00am tomorrow on Topkhana Road.Bangladesh Paribesh Andolan (Bapa) will organise a kite flying festival and a kite exhibition on Dhaka University central playground at 10:00am today.

Bangladesh Group Theatre Federation will organise a programme at Bangladesh Shilpokala Academy tomorrow evening with the participation of leading artistes of the country, while Ananya Social Foundation will hold a discussion and a cultural programme at Jatiya Press Club at 6:00pm today.Bangladesh Shishu Academy Employees' Association has undertaken a 10-day programme, which started yesterday on its premises.

 

We welcome the new year in Bangla calendar. We wish people happiness and peace in the next year. We also urge people to uphold national and decent culture and avoid indecencies which have been imported recently from abroad. Entertainment has, in the name of concert and dancing, has become a competition of mainly women body exposures and display of costume, not only in Baishakh but also in most entertainment shows and concerts. This must be avoided. Anything contrary to Islamic culture which is the religion of a great majority of Bangladesh should not be encouraged.”

 

 

 



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[mukto-mona] Bengali culture and Islam



Culture is a vast thing. 'Indecency' is subjective. If culture means how a group leads its life in general--what the group members eat and how they eat, what they wear, what games they play, what music they listen to, how they deal with their fellow group members, and so on, then it must be mostly local. A religion has almost nothing to do about it. Hindu culture in Kerala is not exactly same as Hindu culture in Bengal. It is more appropriate to say culture in Kerala or culture in Bengal without tying it to a particular religion. There are subcultures within each culture. But we are talking about our national culture in general which must be all inclusive. Culture evolves over time in an interactive way. What I want to say I'd that a religion must not be too restrictive; it must not spoon feed what to wear and what not to  eat or drink. It should rather focus on the values that are universal.

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On Apr 15, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Hannan Saheb,

Thank you for saying that the so called "Muslim-Culture" has Arabian cultural influence. You are an open minded religious person, who I can talk to for hours. May I respectfully present a few more points in this regard?

You said: "Muslim culture vary from place to place partly as Islam allows acceptance of Urf or local custom if it is not against Tauhid and does not contain Shirk and Fahisha ( indecency)."

 

When you say "…if it is not against Tauhid and does not contain Shirk and Fahisha ( indecency)" you are measuring against STANDARDs that came from a different region (Arabia), and you are trying to comply with it. You are also assuming that this is the bottom line. Before you do so please think about the following scenario – let's assume Prophet and writers of those Islamic religious books were from Bangladesh; what kind of cultural practices they would have prescribed for the Muslim Ummah? Definitely, the religion would have been the same, but the cultural practices for Muslims would have been the local Bengali customary practices. As you see – religious culture reflects local culture, and culture is not absolute, but – the religion is.

 

Therefore, we should not mix up religion with culture. Logically, I would think - even if local practices do not comply with "Tauhid" it should be fine with Islam.  And the standard for Shirk and Fahisha ( indecency) has universal norms; I agree with you on those points.

 
Regards,
 
Jiten Roy


--- On Sat, 4/14/12, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:

From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] RE: [KHABOR] FW: Bangla New Year Day--editorial Asia Post
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 14, 2012, 8:10 PM

 

Respected Jiten sahib,

It is true time has changed. It is also true that Muslim culture has some Arab root, however ninety percent of it is based on teachings of the Quran and Sunnah and in that sense Muslim culture is universal for Muslims. Muslim culture vary from place to place partly as Islam allows acceptance of Urf or local custom if it is not against Tauhid and does not contain Shirk and Fahisha ( indecency).

 

Shah Abdul Hannan

 


From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 1:07 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: [KHABOR] FW: Bangla New Year Day--editorial Asia Post

 

 

Hannan Saheb,

 

Our childhoods were in a different era. Now it is internet era. We have many things now that we did not have then; also we do many things that we did not do then. We have cell phones now; boys and girls can talk as long as they want, which we could not do. These are modern amenities, and they are here to stay. You should not stay in your childhood forever. You cannot stop progress in the society because it was not there before.

 

Also, what you call your religious culture is not your Bengali Muslim culture; it's the Arabian Culture. You are trying to emulate that culture as your religious culture. Every society has distinct culture. Religion is separate from culture. Our Bengali culture is richer than Arabian Culture. Don't try to shun your culture to embrace some foreign culture. Having said that, I should admit - we cannot eliminate the influence of other cultures totally in this day and age. Therefore let's admit that truth and move on. Our kids are having fun with the New Year Celebration; you should be happy too and enjoy the festivity with them. Yet, you are suffering inside. God likes us more when we have fun. God is happy when we are happy.

 

Jiten Roy



--- On Sat, 4/14/12, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:


From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
Subject: [mukto-mona] RE: [KHABOR] FW: Bangla New Year Day--editorial Asia Post
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com , mezbahjowher@yahoo.com
Cc: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com , "'sahannan'" <sahannan@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, April 14, 2012, 7:32 AM

 

Jowher  sahib,

 

I have not said that women should stay in home only. You know Islam permits women to go even in battlefields .I have found out that most women I have talked do not like body exposures before men folk ( dress is  becoming too revealing with Urna—breast and head cover-- in hand or neck or shoulder, sometimes transparent dress ) .Most  women  I oppose this.

I am 73.In my childhood in various places (I moved with my father who was in service) I did not see any observance in Ist Baishakh, not even any rich food in home. Literature show that some melas used to be held in some places where some toys etc used to be sold.

 

What is happening now is corporate capitalists business promotion (buying new dress, new ornaments, bangles etc) and invasion of western and Indian nude culture of exploiting women's body. The bad boys use this day to harass girls and touch their bodies. This is the truth.

Some secular elements are trying to make this an alternative to Eid in the name of so-called non-communalism which in effect means promotion of idolatry of various kinds instead of Tauhidi culture .

 

Shah Abdul Hannan  

 


From: khabor@yahoogroups.com [mailto: khabor@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Mohammad Rahman
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:57 PM
To: khabor@yahoogroups com; mezbahjowher@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [KHABOR] FW: Bangla New Year Day--editorial Asia Post

 

 

I think Mr Hannan didn't advocate to kill anyone and it is against the Islamic teachings and observing Pahelabaisak is debatable. There is need of scholarly discussion to observe it in an Islamic way. We shouldn't throw the blame of arrow to someone for nothing. JAK.

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