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Sunday, December 27, 2015

Re: [mukto-mona] India, Pakistan and Bangladesh will reunite to form “undivided India”



Let the bangladeshi hindutva comprador and traitor brigade domiciled in US keep their gab and fundaments in places where they belong - the bog of their masters in US. What right do they have to talk about West Bengal and what the people of West Bengal would do with their Durga Puja, Buddha Purnima, Id-ul-Ajha, Jishu Purnima and Guru-nanok Purnima ?? The people of West Bengal have proved how to keep the best of cosmopolitan culture against all sorts of odds and absurdities. Now the people of Bihar and Odisha and even the peasantry of Gujarat and Benaras have joined in . soon the people of Assam will assert .. India will raise its multitude against these NRI hindutva land and wealth greedy traitors and that would be despite all efforts of Modi... 

If the three countries ever come together , they would do so with all the neighbours turning socialist. Nepal shows the way... soon the sub-continent will break all big-brother dadagiri and will be wiped off.




From: "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] India, Pakistan and Bangladesh will reunite to form "undivided India"

 
How do you find out what is right or what is wrong? What is right thing for you may not be the right thing for someone else. For a humanist, helping someone else, regardless of his religious affiliation, is the right thing. For a religious fundamentalist, converting someone else into his own religion is the right thing!

Religion is the biggest dividing block. It obscures one judgement, it teaches highly sectarian and antagonistic values. As long as religion remains one of the ideological and theological planks of human civilisation, humanity cannot achieve its full potential. However, out of all the main stream religions, Protestantism is the most humane form of religion, in my view. But even in Protestantism there are ample opportunities to misinterpret it and misuse it. So it is better to relegate religion altogether.

- AR 


On Saturday, 26 December 2015, 23:56, "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Yes, the Mullahs of Pakistan should be invited to Durga Puja celebration in West Bengal. But it is their religious duty to desecrate the idols. What are you going to do about that?

No, you need to put some sense in them, so that they can see what is right and what is wrong, as opposed to following their religion. There is a great need, especially among the Muslims, to have lot of people with the senses of right and wrong, who would think, say and follow the motto, "I will do the right thing and not do the wrong thing, no matter what my religion prescribes." The rubbish dishonest talk of criminals misinterpreting their religion would not do. The dishonest talks often are actually for approval of the crimes.

SuBain

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On Saturday, December 26, 2015 1:23 PM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Any thing can be made possible. Obviously this must not be done through coercion. Only people of the countries can do it. We need more and more cultural exchanges among the people of the different countries. 

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On Dec 24, 2015, at 3:43 PM, ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
I tend to agree with SuBain's pragmatic view that putting these three highly polarised, brainwashed nations together, either by coercion or coaxing, would be a recipe for disaster. These people will be perpetually fighting or viciously arguing. On the other hand, if secularism takes hold or religions are abrogated completely, then these three nations together would be world's one of the major powers, if not the major power. By our mental block of religious adherence, we are pulling us backwards. We are our own enemies! 

- AR 


On Thursday, 24 December 2015, 15:01, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
 
December 24, 2015
  • The former RSS spokesman maintains that India consists of only one culture, which he terms "Hindu" and that  India's minorities should win "the goodwill of the majority"
  • Muslims, Christians and Communists described as "internal challenges"
  • Writers and intellectuals are protesting against the BJP "to defame the image of India"
Ram Madhav, the National General Secretary of India's ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), told Al Jazeera's Mehdi Hasan that he believes India, Pakistan and Bangladesh will reunite to form Akhand Bharat, or "undivided India".
Referring to the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the right-wing Hindu nationalist organisation often described as the ideological wing of the BJP, Madhav said, "The RSS still believes that one day these parts, which have for historical reasons separated only 60 years ago, will again, through popular goodwill, come together and Akhand Bharat will be created… As an RSS member I also hold…onto that view". However, he clarified, "That does not mean we wage war on any country, [or that] we annex any country… Without war, through popular consent, it can happen".
These comments were made in the final episode of the brand new series of Head to Head, Al Jazeera English's premier interview programme, which is hosted by Mehdi Hasan and filmed in front of an audience at the Oxford Union. The programme airs on Friday 25thDecember on Al Jazeera English.
Madhav was previously Spokesman and a National Executive Member at the RSS, until he was deputed to the BJP in July 2014, and then appointed National General Secretary.
Since its landslide victory in 2014, the BJP has come under fire for allegedly contributing to a "climate of intolerance" in India, which is home to the world's largest Muslim-minority population. When challenged on why a number of high-profile writers and intellectuals have returned their awards to protest against the BJP government in recent months, Madhav argued they were doing so "to defame the government and in turn to defame the image of India," and that their method of protest was "wrong".
 The BJP has also been criticised for its ties to the RSS and Hindu nationalist ideology.  When asked to respond to inflammatory statements made by the former RSS leader and influential ideologue M.S. Golwalkar in his book "Bunch of Thoughts", currently available to download from the RSS website, Madhav denied that Golwalkar referred to a "Muslim menace" or to Christians as "bloodsuckers". Challenged by Hasan on Golwalkar's identification of three "internal threats" to India, named by Golwalkar as Muslims, Christians and Communists, Madhav responded, "Yes, they are challenges, we had the three challenges in our country… No internal threats; internal challenges, yes."
 Questioned on a statement made earlier this year, in which he said India was "a Hindu country", Madhav explained, "[I]t's a land where a particular way of life, a particular culture or civilization is practiced". Pressed by Hasan on the definition of this particular culture, he said, "We call it Hindu – do you have any objection? India has one culture. We are one culture, one people, one nation."
 Challenged on why the RSS stated that the safety of Muslims "lies in the goodwill of the majority," Madhav said, "It's not about Muslims winning the goodwill of Hindus alone – it is the other way also. If you are in small number, if you feel threatened, have the goodwill of the majority in your area… You have goodwill and good relations, that's what we mean."
 Hasan also questioned Madhav, who is in charge of the BJP's "Jammu & Kashmir affairs" – which is the Indian authorities' term for Indian-administered Kashmir - , on how to bring peace to the region, and Madhav responded, "The only outstanding issue…with regard to the Kashmir problem is the Kashmir under Pakistan occupation. The Kashmir that is… an integral part of India, it has been proved time and again that it's an integral part of India." He assured the audience that "political demands in Kashmir…will be taken care of," although with the caveat: "short of separating from India".
 Pressed by Hasan on the BJP's plans for reaching a solution with Pakistan, he replied, "Have patience…We want peace," adding, "You worry about many more things that are happening. Your ISIS can catch hold of nuclear weapons".
 Hasan is joined in the Oxford Union by a panel of three experts: Dr Nitasha Kaul, a Kashmiri novelist, academic, economist and poet, who is currently Assistant Professor at the University of Westminster; Dr Gautam Sen, former Advisor to the Prime Minister's Office in Bharat and previously a lecturer in political economy at the London School of Economics; and Mehboob Khan, a former BBC journalist and Kashmir correspondent at United News of India, who is currently a Presenter at UN Radio and Editor at Asian Voice Global.
 This brand new series of Head to Head also included interviews with Paul Bremer, former US Presidential Envoy to Iraq; Natalia Narochnitskaya, former Russian politician and historian; and Hina Rabbani Khar, former Foreign Minister of Pakistan.
 Is Modi's India flirting with fascism? with Ram Madhav will be broadcast on Friday 25th December 2015 at 20:00 GMT. Repeats on December 26th at 12:00 GMT, December 27th at 01:00 GMT and December 28th at 06:00 GMT. 
This programme will be available online after it first airs on this link: http://aje.io/dr7v










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Re: [mukto-mona] সাম্প্র!



Awami league wants to show the Saudi Wahabi masters that they can better represent their interests than Khaleda's outfit can ever dream of. They now need the Saudi money. AL is now the organization to perpetrate, and inforce Islami extremism and trying to smuggle in the Shariati law .. They are showing their masters that Khaleda outfit is superfluous and AL can manage every side. There is no point in expecting anything positive from them.




From: "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] সাম্প্র!

 
It is absolutely essential that the Awami League dissociates itself from any religious groups. After all, the ruling party must uphold the Constitution which requires the regime to be secular. Any hobnobbing with religious groups will violate ruling party's constitutional responsibilities.

- AR


On Sunday, 27 December 2015, 1:07, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
[Attachment(s) from Jiten Roy included below]
I would like to assume that - there is no other reason for Awami League to patronize religious radicals except to avail political expediency. Awami League is playing with a virus of radicalism, which could infect the party beyond control, and put an end to its secular ideology. I hope, Awami-League is aware of it. If not, the consequence of it would be grievous for the country, as Bangladesh cannot survive being a rogue radical nation in that part of the world any longer. Religious radicals won't be able to conceive that, but secular progressives should be able to realize that.   




From: "'Jamal G. Khan' M.JamalGhaus@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 5:45 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] সাম্প্রদায়িক রাজনীতি করছে আওয়ামী ওলামা লীগ!

 
সাম্প্রদায়িক রাজনীতি করছে আওয়ামী ওলামা লীগ!
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আওয়ামী লীগের গঠনতন্ত্রে না থাকলেও কয়েকজন মন্ত্রী ও দলের কিছু কেন্দ্রীয় নেতার ছত্রচ্ছায়ায় গড়ে ওঠা আওয়ামী ওলামা লীগ নামে দুটি গ্রুপের অস্তিত্ব পাওয়া গেছে। বিভিন্ন সময়ে উভয় গ্রুপের কিছু কর্মসূচিতে দলের কয়েকজন কেন্দ্রীয় নেতাকে উপস্থিত থাকতে দেখা যায়।
ওলামা লীগের উভয় গ্রুপ আওয়ামী লীগের নীতি-আদর্শের পক্ষে এবং প্রধানমন্ত্রী শেখ হাসিনা তাদের নেত্রী বলে দাবি করলেও তাদের বক্তৃতা-বিবৃতি ও কার্যক্রমের সঙ্গে সাম্প্রদায়িক রাজনীতির মিল পাওয়া যায়। সংগঠনটির উভয় গ্রুপই ২৩, বঙ্গবন্ধু অ্যাভিনিউয়ে আওয়ামী লীগের কেন্দ্রীয় কার্যালয়কে তাদের দলীয় কার্যালয় বলে সংবাদ বিজ্ঞপ্তিতে প্রচার করছে।
অনুসন্ধানে দেখা গেছে, ওলামা লীগের একটি অংশের সভাপতি ও সাধারণ সম্পাদক দাবিদার যথাক্রমে মাওলানা মুহাম্মদ আখতার হোসাইন বুখারী ও মাওলানা মো. আবুল হাসান শেখ শরীয়তপুরি। অপর অংশের সভাপতি মাওলানা ইলিয়াশ হোসাইন হেলালী ও সাধারণ সম্পাদক বেলাল হোসেন। উভয় গ্রুপ নিজ নিজ অংশকে আসল ওলামা লীগ বলে দাবি করছে। তাদের সংগঠনের গঠনতন্ত্র নেই বলে দুই গ্রুপই জানায়। তবে আওয়ামী লীগের নীতি-আদর্শ তারা মেনে চলার কথা দাবি করে। এক গ্রুপ জানায়, তাদের কেন্দ্রীয় কমিটির সদস্যসংখ্যা ১৫১ এবং অপর গ্রুপের ১৬১।
ওলামা লীগের বুখারী ও শরীয়তপুরি গ্রুপ গত শনিবার জাতীয় প্রেসক্লাবের সামনে এক মানববন্ধনে পাঠ্যপুস্তকে ইসলামবিরোধী রচনা ও পাঠ্যক্রম আছে বলে দাবি করে তা বাদ দেওয়ার কথা বলেছে। বর্তমান শিক্ষানীতিকে ইসলামবিরোধী আখ্যা দিয়েছে। তারা মেয়েদের বিয়ের বয়স নির্ধারণের বিরোধিতা করেছে। ধর্ম অবমাননার জন্য মৃত্যুদণ্ডের আইন প্রণয়নের দাবিসহ পয়লা বৈশাখবিরোধী বক্তৃতা-বিবৃতিও দিয়েছে তারা।
আওয়ামী লীগের গঠনতন্ত্রের 'লক্ষ্য, উদ্দেশ্য, মূলনীতি ও উন্নয়ন দর্শন' অংশে বলা হয়েছে, 'মহান মুক্তিযুদ্ধের ভেতর দিয়ে অর্জিত সংবিধানে বিধৃত চার রাষ্ট্রীয় মূলনীতি বাঙালি জাতীয়তাবাদ, গণতন্ত্র, ধর্মনিরপেক্ষতা ও সমাজতন্ত্র পুনঃপ্রতিষ্ঠা, সকল ধর্মের সমান অধিকার নিশ্চিতকরণ ও অসাম্প্রদায়িক রাজনীতি, সাম্য ও সামাজিক ন্যায়বিচার প্রতিষ্ঠা হবে বাংলাদেশ আওয়ামী লীগের অভীষ্ট লক্ষ্য।'
কিন্তু আওয়ামী লীগের সহযোগী বা ভ্রাতৃপ্রতিম সংগঠনের নামে ওলামা লীগের সাম্প্রদায়িক রাজনীতি নিয়ে রাজনৈতিক অভিজ্ঞ মহলে প্রশ্ন উঠেছে। তা ছাড়া আওয়ামী লীগের পক্ষ থেকে এ সংগঠনের কার্যক্রম সম্পর্কে কোনো বক্তব্য-বিবৃতি বা দায়িত্বশীল কারও বক্তব্যও নেই।
ওলামা লীগের সাম্প্রতিক কার্যক্রম সম্পর্কে জানতে চাইলে আওয়ামী লীগের যুগ্ম সাধারণ সম্পাদক মাহবুব উল আলম হানিফ প্রথম আলোকে বলেন, 'ওলামা লীগ নামে আওয়ামী লীগের কোনো সহযোগী বা ভ্রাতৃপ্রতিম সংগঠন নেই। ওদের সঙ্গে দলের কোনো রাজনৈতিক সম্পর্ক নেই।' এক প্রশ্নের জবাবে তিনি বলেন, 'মাঝেমধ্যে আমাদের দলের কয়েকজন নেতা ওলামা লীগের কর্মসূচিতে যান।'
ওলামা লীগের সঙ্গে রাজনৈতিক সম্পর্ক না থাকলে দলীয় নেতারা কেন তাদের অনুষ্ঠানে যান, জানতে চাইলে তিনি বলেন, '৬ আগস্ট আমাদের দলের সাধারণ সম্পাদক সৈয়দ আশরাফুল ইসলামের সভাপতিত্বে একটি বৈঠক হয়েছে। সেই বৈঠকে দলের সহযোগী ও অনুমোদিত ভ্রাতৃপ্রতিম সংগঠন ছাড়া অন্য কোনো সংগঠন বা কোনো ভুঁইফোড় সংগঠনের কর্মসূচিতে যেতে কেন্দ্রীয় নেতাদের নিষেধ করা হয়েছে।'
ওলামা লীগের বুখারী ও শরীয়তপুরি গ্রুপের সাধারণ সম্পাদক আবুল হাসান শেখ শরীয়তপুরি প্রথম আলোর কাছে দাবি করেন, তাঁরা প্রধানমন্ত্রী শেখ হাসিনার পক্ষ থেকে সাংগঠনিক কার্যক্রম পরিচালনা করছেন। তাঁদের সংগঠনের দেখভাল করেন প্রধানমন্ত্রীর রাজনৈতিক উপদেষ্টা এইচ টি ইমাম, আওয়ামী লীগের প্রচার সম্পাদক হাছান মাহমুদ, ধর্মবিষয়ক সম্পাদক শেখ মো. আবদুল্লাহ ও দপ্তর সম্পাদক আবদুস সোবহান গোলাপ। তিনি বলেন, হেফাজতে ইসলামের আন্দোলনের সময় এইচ টি ইমাম দাওয়াত করে তাঁর বাসায় তাঁদের খাইয়েছেন। তাঁর নির্দেশে তাঁরা তখন মাঠে ছিলেন।
এইচ টি ইমাম ও হাছান মাহমুদ দেশের বাইরে এবং শেখ আবদুল্লাহ অসুস্থ থাকায় তাঁদের বক্তব্য জানা যায়নি। তবে আবদুস সোবহান গোলাপ প্রথম আলোকে বলেন, 'ওলামা লীগ আওয়ামী লীগের কোনো সহযোগী বা ভ্রাতৃপ্রতিম সংগঠন নয়। তবে আমি এ সংগঠনের কর্মসূচিতে যাই বা না যাই, সে সম্পর্কে মন্তব্য করব না।'
আবুল হাসান দাবি করেন, দলের দুর্যোগের সময় তাঁরা মাঠে থাকেন। প্রধানমন্ত্রী তাঁকে সরকারিভাবে হজে পাঠিয়েছেন, কাজী ও বিবাহ নিবন্ধক বানিয়েছেন। এমনকি এ বছর দ্বিতীয় রমজানে তাঁরা প্রধানমন্ত্রীর আমন্ত্রণে গণভবনে ইফতার মাহফিলে অংশ নেন। এক প্রশ্নের জবাবে আবুল হাসান বলেন, আগে তাঁদের দলীয় কার্যালয় বঙ্গবন্ধু অ্যাভিনিউয়ে ছিল। কিন্তু দলাদলির কারণে এখন তাঁরা আওয়ামী লীগ সভানেত্রীর ধানমন্ডির কার্যালয়ে বসেন।
আওয়ামী লীগের নীতি-আদর্শে না থাকলেও তাঁরা কেন সাম্প্রদায়িক রাজনীতি ও দাবি-দাওয়া করছেন, জানতে চাইলে আবুল হাসান বলেন, 'কারও নির্দেশে নয়, আমরা ঈমানি দায়িত্ব থেকে এসব করছি। তা ছাড়া মুসলমানদের আওয়ামী লীগের প্রতি আকৃষ্ট করার জন্য এসব বক্তব্য দিচ্ছি।' ওলামা লীগের অপর অংশের নেতাদের তিনি আলেম বলতে নারাজ। তাঁদের তিনি ট্রাকচালক ও শ্রমিক বলে মন্তব্য করেন।
অনুসন্ধানে জানা যায়, ত্রাণ ও দুর্যোগ ব্যবস্থাপনামন্ত্রী মোফাজ্জল হোসেন চৌধুরী মায়ার পৃষ্ঠপোষকতায় ইলিয়াশ হোসাইন বিন হেলালী ও বেলাল হোসেনের নেতৃত্বাধীন ওলামা লীগের অপর অংশের উত্থান ঘটেছে। বঙ্গবন্ধু অ্যাভিনিউয়ে আওয়ামী লীগের কেন্দ্রীয় কার্যালয়ের তিনতলায় এই অংশের নেতারা ওলামা লীগের সাইনবোর্ড টানিয়ে একটি অফিস খুলে বসেছেন।
এই অংশের নেতা ইলিয়াশ হোসাইন প্রথম আলোকে বলেন, ত্রাণমন্ত্রী মোফাজ্জল হোসেন চৌধুরী এবং আওয়ামী লীগের নেতা মাহবুব-উল আলম হানিফ ও হাছান মাহমুদ তাঁদের কর্মসূচিতে আসেন।
দেশের বাইরে থাকায় এ বিষয়ে মায়ার বক্তব্য পাওয়া যায়নি। তবে হানিফ তাঁদের কোনো কর্মসূচিতে যাননি বলে জানান।
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Prof Farida Majid suffers from a genuine preferential problem of hers, she is soft to hindutvavadis to some extent and redeems traitors and compradores. there are these traitor characters lurking all around US and the west, who accepted all facilities that their country provided and are now cooling their heels safely and slavishly in US and are always trying to foment some kind of a ruckus in their native land, all basically to lap some more wealth, land and properties from those who would be affected and would leave their abode. These hawks do not realize that facebook slaps do not hit back! there are different methods to retaliate facebook virtual slaps. anatomy can be separated and boiled in soups and then fed back, there are others. The bloggers who were killed dared their lives, went, fought like heroes and walked along those who are fighting their fights on a daily basis. The killers are paid by the government to kill bloggers and go scot free. On the international scale ISIS is funded by Barack O'bama's pentagonized administration and led by Mossad to create ISIS as a separate state vivisecting Syria, erstwhile Libya, Turkey, Afghanistan, Iraq and if possible Pakistan - all for a pipe line. The point is the US resident Bangladeshi hindutva brigade and the Mussalman extremist brigade is importing communal strife within Bangladesh. They try that incessently within India and the Indian people have rejected all such machinations through their recent election mandate. The people within Bangladesh is handicapped because of the ruling parties colluding with the Islami extremists for some Saudi "pool"s and dirhams, through the islamic banking system and islami NGOs, but pretty soon the people of Bangaldesh led by their peasants would relegate these compradors to their imperialist masters' country. 




From: "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Horific video--do you really want to watch?

 
I hear, loud and clear, that you want to blame the messenger, not the message.
Your view is – such acts will not be perpetrated in Bangladesh only if those messages are not circulated by Mr. Guha. But, that's a foolish thought, because – those who captured those images and posted them in the YouTube for mass circulation are fellow Muslims, not Mr. Guha. Those images have already reached everybody's computer long before Mr. Guha's mail reached your e-mail box. So, blaming him for this circulation is useless.
It appears that - you are not ready to face the reality that Bangladeshi Muslim society is severely infected by the radical religious virus. As a result, 82% of Muslims want Sharia Law in Bangladesh. What a progress in 43 years! I don't think you can blame Israel or America for that. Can you?
Jiten Roy




From: "Farida Majid farida_majid@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Horific video--do you really want to watch?

 
Sitangshu,
   I know you are only doing the bidding of your bosses who pay you. Those CIA/Mossad script-writers of ISIS have no heart, human or animal.  As long as it creates hatred towards Muslim, anything goes. I watched the video of Israeli guards torturing a Palestinian child by laying on the guard dogs attack the helpless boy.  But even the trained dogs showed glimpses of kindness.  But your heart is relentless, without any touch of mercy.

     I plead with you, as a fellow Bangalee, have some mercy!  Reducing the level of communal violence in Bangladesh should be the aim of all Bangladeshis regardless of religion, class or sect.  This propaganda of perpetrating HATRED towards Muslims does not help in that effort -- it renders all good efforts useless.

With Modi's India, and a weak Govt. in Pakistan, and a two-faced, AL led Govt in Bangladesh, communalism is having a hey-day in the subcontinent.  Bangladesh is the only country which has the citizens' power to stop the tide.  Please do not HIT us hard!

             Farida apa



From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Sitangshu Guha guhasb@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 8:40 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mukto-mona] Horific video--do you really want to watch?
 






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I found Ms. Majid's comments on Mr. Guhas posting of the video outrageous. And I found myself sympathizing with Mr. Guha's on his outburst.
   On the substance of the question on hand, this is nothing new. I have witnessed over many decades Islamic apologists at work in Bangladesh.  Ms. Majid says, "Bangladesh is the only country which has the citizen's power to stop the tide" [of Islamic extremism]. Really? Evidence suggests otherwise. "Islamic" zeal has steadily increased in the country over the years, culminating in the murder of six freethinkers in this year alone. And this has been in no small measure due to apologists who too have grown in number and who have mouthed "Islam- is- a- religion- of- peace" like  parrots. There is no critical look into the issues. Slogans  and innuendos, like Ms.Majid's, rule. I do not see any sign of "citizens' power" to stop the tide. Not with such a crowd of Islamic apologist around and growing.
 
Mahfuzur Rahman       
 
 
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From: Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 27, 2015 8:39 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Horific video--do you really want to watch?

 
I hear, loud and clear, that you want to blame the messenger, not the message.
Your view is – such acts will not be perpetrated in Bangladesh only if those messages are not circulated by Mr. Guha. But, that's a foolish thought, because – those who captured those images and posted them in the YouTube for mass circulation are fellow Muslims, not Mr. Guha. Those images have already reached everybody's computer long before Mr. Guha's mail reached your e-mail box. So, blaming him for this circulation is useless.
It appears that - you are not ready to face the reality that Bangladeshi Muslim society is severely infected by the radical religious virus. As a result, 82% of Muslims want Sharia Law in Bangladesh. What a progress in 43 years! I don't think you can blame Israel or America for that. Can you?
Jiten Roy




From: "Farida Majid farida_majid@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Horific video--do you really want to watch?

 
Sitangshu,
   I know you are only doing the bidding of your bosses who pay you. Those CIA/Mossad script-writers of ISIS have no heart, human or animal.  As long as it creates hatred towards Muslim, anything goes. I watched the video of Israeli guards torturing a Palestinian child by laying on the guard dogs attack the helpless boy.  But even the trained dogs showed glimpses of kindness.  But your heart is relentless, without any touch of mercy.

     I plead with you, as a fellow Bangalee, have some mercy!  Reducing the level of communal violence in Bangladesh should be the aim of all Bangladeshis regardless of religion, class or sect.  This propaganda of perpetrating HATRED towards Muslims does not help in that effort -- it renders all good efforts useless.

With Modi's India, and a weak Govt. in Pakistan, and a two-faced, AL led Govt in Bangladesh, communalism is having a hey-day in the subcontinent.  Bangladesh is the only country which has the citizens' power to stop the tide.  Please do not HIT us hard!

             Farida apa



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To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mukto-mona] Horific video--do you really want to watch?
 




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