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Monday, April 29, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: [KHABOR] Hasan Madmud's film



When the British Administration introduced Permanent Settlement, Bengali Muslims were poor and backward.  Hence most properties were leased out to Hindus.  Situation changed after 1947.  The administrations in Pakistan and Bangladesh did indeed consider abandoned property of Hindus as easy grab, mal-e-ganimat.  But then, even Muslims swallowed the land of the Beharis and the Hindus did the same to Hindu property even in the guise of assorted Hindu foundations.  Even the late Justice Debesh Bhattacharya and Neem Chandra Bhowmik were once blamed for having swallowed the property of Dhakewswaree temple.


2013/4/27 Sitangshu Guha <guhasb@gmail.com>
 

হ্যালো মি: রহমান: হিন্দুর সম্পত্তি দখল করার সময় আওয়ামী লীগ-বিএনপি-জামাত-জাপা ভাই ভাই। আপনি একটু খুঁজে দেখলে হয়তো জানবেন, আপনার পৈত্রিক সম্পত্তিটিও কোনো হিন্দুর থেকে জোর করে নেয়া অথবা নামমাত্র মূল্যে কেনা। পৃথিবীতে এমন কোনো মুসলিম দেশ নাই যেদেশে অন্যধর্মিযরা ভালো আছেন; সুতারং আপনারা যেখানে শাসক সেখানে আমাদের তো গুহাতেই থাকতে হবে। 
 


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Mohammad Rahman <mrahman246@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hai Mr Guha

Where are you? Your brother Mr Rana occupied Rabindranath Saha's land and built garments factory without approval forced workers to work in the cracked building caused 365 deaths so far. Are you in the cave?


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From: Sitangshu Guha <guhasb@gmail.com>;
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Subject: [KHABOR] Hasan Madmud's film
Sent: Sat, Apr 27, 2013 12:05:49 AM

 




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[mukto-mona] Re: [KHABOR] protest in siliguri



We actually do not care who did that, we want justice; which was not served by any government. You are blaming AL; we blame BNP-Jamat. Blame game will not solve the problem. We want a solution.
 
Who knows where is that guy? Don't blame a guy for you peoples' hatred. Who cares if one guy say something! How you are sure that guy is in India? Just saw that, Rana was fleeing to India. Remember Daud Haider? He defame both Krishna & Muhammed; Bangladesh drove him out; Kolkata accepted him. That is why India is great; good or bad; they accept all. That is why US/West is great, they accept all; even you fundamentalists; who want more democracy in West & want your own country as an Islamic hub; who want destruction of the civilized world; but built Madrassa with Nasara's dollar! Can you imagine what you would do, if some Hindu/christian would do what Boston bombers did? Look your face in the mirror!
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Mohammad Rahman <mrahman246@yahoo.com> wrote:

Why they are asking for Indian intervention? Why your party Awami league did not make investigation and published the report. It was clear from news reports local awami leaders were involved and where is that guy who made defaming post in the Facebook? India gave him shelter.


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Subject: [KHABOR] protest in siliguri
Sent: Sun, Apr 28, 2013 12:44:18 AM

 



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Re: [mukto-mona] Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery [Vimana]



Dr. Das, I am talking about 'ideas' embedded in those stories, not the authenticity of those stories or their origins; may be they came from the Greek Mythologies; doesn't matter. 

 

You know how wireless transmission and communication works. To go from one place to another, you will ask a Satellite Station to – beam you off to a designated coordinate, and the operator will digitize you to transmit there wirelessly, no fuel or pilot will be needed. As I said before – these ideas are now in the science fictional stage.

 

Jiten Roy



--- On Mon, 4/29/13, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery [Vimana]
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 29, 2013, 9:04 PM

 

Sudhir Srinivasan is a Doc Pannah under a Hindu garb.  What was the fuel of the Vimana?  Will power of the pilot?  A flying carpet seems a better instrument of aviation to me.  If Dr. Roy ever compared the Hindu deities with the Greek, he would be amazed by the similarity.  If Vyas Dev is really Badrayana, a philosopher in the seventh century C.E., most Hindu religious literature might be a product of the expedition by Alexander the Great.  One can still view the Hindu or Homeric Gods by staring at the sky looking through the eye and analytical ability of the ancient people.


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Very impressive piece of News by forwarded by Sudhir-Architect. I want to thank him for that.


My belief finally is coming to fruition. I have been hypothesizing that Hindu Gods and Goddesses are nothing but odd-looking alien creatures from other planets. They were much too sophisticated. They used to visit that part of the world (India) using some sort of star-war (beaming off-and-on) traveling technologies; they used to communicate with human on earth through telepathic means. We have instances in the scriptures showing the existence of such communications with human on earth. People, at that period, used to call them Gods and Goddesses, for lack of better words, from heaven (outer space). I think, later on, Bahmins introduced worshipping of those Gods and Goddesses for business sake.

 

You might ask – why they are not visiting the earth anymore. The answer is – human-race has become much too sophisticated and dangerous since then. Earth is not safe for them anymore to pay a visit. As you know - human, at that time, did not even know how to fly or travel from one place to another.

 

The question – what Indian Air Force is doing, and why are they not the leader in the art of flying and communication?  I think they have been ignoring the wealth of information in their backyard forever, but foreigners, like US Air Force and NASA, did not; they have been studying these scriptures for ideas and clues. They have been learning Sanskrit Language to interpret Indian scriptural writings, and Indian Air Force are learning English to find out what US Air Force and NASA are doing. What a fallacy! Isn't it?

 

Jiten Roy



--- On Sun, 4/28/13, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery [Vimana]
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 28, 2013, 6:47 AM


 


According to Hindu Yogis, it is this "laghima" which enables a person to levitate. Dr. Reyna said that on board these machines, which were called "Astras" by the text, the ancient Indians could have sent a detachment of men onto any planet, according to
the document, which is thought to be thousands of years old. The manuscripts were also said to reveal the secret of "antima", "the cap of invisibility" and "garima", "how to become as heavy as a mountain of lead."



>>>>>>>> Don't know why Indian Air force spends so much money (Depriving poor Indians) buying aircraft from "Malicha" countries????


Shalom!

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From: Sudhir-Architect <ar_sudhirkumar@yahoo.com>
To: undisclosed recipients: ;
Sent: Sun, Apr 28, 2013 6:04 am
Subject: [mukto-mona] Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery [Vimana]

 

Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery with Steve Quayle


What caused the sudden rush of these most powerful leaders of the Western World to go to Afghanistan, this report continues, was to directly by I Want This"view the discovery by US Military scientists of what is described as a "Vimana" entrapped in a "Time Well" that has already caused the "disappearance" of at least 8 American Soldiers trying to remove it from the cave it has been hidden in for the past estimated 5,000 years.

Vimana

Vimāna is a word with several meanings ranging from temple or palace to mythological flying machines described in Sanskrit epics.

Reference to ancient Indian flying vehicles comes from ancient Indian sources, many are the well known ancient Indian Epics, and there are literally hundreds of them. Most of them have not even been translated into English yet from the old sanskrit.

It is claimed that a few years ago, the Chinese discovered some sanskrit documents in Lhasa, Tibet and sent them to the University of Chandrigarh to be translated. Dr. Ruth Reyna of the University said recently that the documents contain directions for building interstellar spaceships!

Their method of propulsion, she said, was "anti-gravitational" and was based upon a system analogous to that of "laghima," the unknown power of the ego existing in man's physiological makeup, "a centrifugal force strong enough to counteract all gravitational pull."

According to Hindu Yogis, it is this "laghima" which enables a person to levitate. Dr. Reyna said that on board these machines, which were called "Astras" by the text, the ancient Indians could have sent a detachment of men onto any planet, according to
the document, which is thought to be thousands of years old. The manuscripts were also said to reveal the secret of "antima", "the cap of invisibility" and "garima", "how to become as heavy as a mountain of lead."


Steve Quayle
Stephen Quayle is the author of five books. For over thirty years, he has been investigating ancient civilizations, giants, UFOs and biological warfare as they relate to the future of mankind. Stephen discusses the coming worst-case scenarios approaching this world and how they interrelate to each other. Earthquakes, volcanoes, nuclear and biological terrorism, coupled with the planned financial meltdown of the U.S. by I Want This"dollar will thrust us into unimagined tribulations. Stephen Quayle is on record as stating that we have moved from the realm of natural threats into the arena of supernaturally guided events of the unseen hand of evil orchestrating world events of unfathomable proportions.
 
Thanks & Regards,


Sudhir Srinivasan
B.Arch, MSc.CPM, Dip.ID, Dip.CAD, Dip.PM, Dip.LD
| Architect |




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Re: [mukto-mona] Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery [Vimana]



Sudhir Srinivasan is a Doc Pannah under a Hindu garb.  What was the fuel of the Vimana?  Will power of the pilot?  A flying carpet seems a better instrument of aviation to me.  If Dr. Roy ever compared the Hindu deities with the Greek, he would be amazed by the similarity.  If Vyas Dev is really Badrayana, a philosopher in the seventh century C.E., most Hindu religious literature might be a product of the expedition by Alexander the Great.  One can still view the Hindu or Homeric Gods by staring at the sky looking through the eye and analytical ability of the ancient people.


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Very impressive piece of News by forwarded by Sudhir-Architect. I want to thank him for that.


My belief finally is coming to fruition. I have been hypothesizing that Hindu Gods and Goddesses are nothing but odd-looking alien creatures from other planets. They were much too sophisticated. They used to visit that part of the world (India) using some sort of star-war (beaming off-and-on) traveling technologies; they used to communicate with human on earth through telepathic means. We have instances in the scriptures showing the existence of such communications with human on earth. People, at that period, used to call them Gods and Goddesses, for lack of better words, from heaven (outer space). I think, later on, Bahmins introduced worshipping of those Gods and Goddesses for business sake.

 

You might ask – why they are not visiting the earth anymore. The answer is – human-race has become much too sophisticated and dangerous since then. Earth is not safe for them anymore to pay a visit. As you know - human, at that time, did not even know how to fly or travel from one place to another.

 

The question – what Indian Air Force is doing, and why are they not the leader in the art of flying and communication?  I think they have been ignoring the wealth of information in their backyard forever, but foreigners, like US Air Force and NASA, did not; they have been studying these scriptures for ideas and clues. They have been learning Sanskrit Language to interpret Indian scriptural writings, and Indian Air Force are learning English to find out what US Air Force and NASA are doing. What a fallacy! Isn't it?

 

Jiten Roy



--- On Sun, 4/28/13, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery [Vimana]
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, April 28, 2013, 6:47 AM


 


According to Hindu Yogis, it is this "laghima" which enables a person to levitate. Dr. Reyna said that on board these machines, which were called "Astras" by the text, the ancient Indians could have sent a detachment of men onto any planet, according to
the document, which is thought to be thousands of years old. The manuscripts were also said to reveal the secret of "antima", "the cap of invisibility" and "garima", "how to become as heavy as a mountain of lead."



>>>>>>>> Don't know why Indian Air force spends so much money (Depriving poor Indians) buying aircraft from "Malicha" countries????


Shalom!

-----Original Message-----
From: Sudhir-Architect <ar_sudhirkumar@yahoo.com>
To: undisclosed recipients: ;
Sent: Sun, Apr 28, 2013 6:04 am
Subject: [mukto-mona] Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery [Vimana]

 

Secret 5000 Year Old Flying Machine Discovery with Steve Quayle


What caused the sudden rush of these most powerful leaders of the Western World to go to Afghanistan, this report continues, was to directly by I Want This"view the discovery by US Military scientists of what is described as a "Vimana" entrapped in a "Time Well" that has already caused the "disappearance" of at least 8 American Soldiers trying to remove it from the cave it has been hidden in for the past estimated 5,000 years.

Vimana

Vimāna is a word with several meanings ranging from temple or palace to mythological flying machines described in Sanskrit epics.

Reference to ancient Indian flying vehicles comes from ancient Indian sources, many are the well known ancient Indian Epics, and there are literally hundreds of them. Most of them have not even been translated into English yet from the old sanskrit.

It is claimed that a few years ago, the Chinese discovered some sanskrit documents in Lhasa, Tibet and sent them to the University of Chandrigarh to be translated. Dr. Ruth Reyna of the University said recently that the documents contain directions for building interstellar spaceships!

Their method of propulsion, she said, was "anti-gravitational" and was based upon a system analogous to that of "laghima," the unknown power of the ego existing in man's physiological makeup, "a centrifugal force strong enough to counteract all gravitational pull."

According to Hindu Yogis, it is this "laghima" which enables a person to levitate. Dr. Reyna said that on board these machines, which were called "Astras" by the text, the ancient Indians could have sent a detachment of men onto any planet, according to
the document, which is thought to be thousands of years old. The manuscripts were also said to reveal the secret of "antima", "the cap of invisibility" and "garima", "how to become as heavy as a mountain of lead."


Steve Quayle
Stephen Quayle is the author of five books. For over thirty years, he has been investigating ancient civilizations, giants, UFOs and biological warfare as they relate to the future of mankind. Stephen discusses the coming worst-case scenarios approaching this world and how they interrelate to each other. Earthquakes, volcanoes, nuclear and biological terrorism, coupled with the planned financial meltdown of the U.S. by I Want This"dollar will thrust us into unimagined tribulations. Stephen Quayle is on record as stating that we have moved from the realm of natural threats into the arena of supernaturally guided events of the unseen hand of evil orchestrating world events of unfathomable proportions.
 
Thanks & Regards,


Sudhir Srinivasan
B.Arch, MSc.CPM, Dip.ID, Dip.CAD, Dip.PM, Dip.LD
| Architect |




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Re: [mukto-mona] not brainwashed



A 'brain washed person' usually does not have much of a brain to speak of.  He/ she does not know the difference between having a brain and not having anything in the skull.  Such persons are usually driven by their basic instincts like sex, hunger, and the need for a shelter.  Girls who end up in being converted to Islam might have done so looking for a spouse who would stay away from drugs, not knowing that Islam is the worst of them.


On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

I don't care about her religious conversion. But - I see no reason for her to wear something that is not customary in this society during her mundane activities. This has nothing to do with her spirituality. Does she think - she can go to Behesth (Heaven) just because she wears Hijab? Her actions are results of brainwashing. 

 

I won't advice my wife to wear Sari and Vermilion for her day-to-day outings, unless it is a special social occasion. These types of behaviors are results of brainwashing. Those who do these things do not know they have been victims of brainwashing.

 

Jiten Roy



--- On Mon, 4/29/13, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
Subject: [mukto-mona] not brainwashed
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 29, 2013, 1:35 PM


 

Here is an interesting article about new converts to Islam.

http://www.iviews.com/Articles/articles.asp?ref=NB1304-5434



Not 'brainwashed': American converts to Islam speak out
4/27/2013 - Social Interfaith Religious - Article Ref: NB1304-5434
Number of comments:
By: JoNel Aleccia
NBC News* -



Lauren Schreiber, 26, converted to Islam in 2010 after a study-abroad trip. She and others want to dispel stereotypes that have sprung up after news reports about Katherine Russell, 24, the U.S.-born wife of suspected Boston bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
When an American convert to Islam was revealed as the wife of the dead Boston bombing suspect, Lauren Schreiber wasn't surprised at what came next.
Comments from former acquaintances and complete strangers immediately suggested that 24-year-old Katherine Russell, a New England doctor's daughter, must have been coerced and controlled by her husband, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who died last week in a firefight with police.
"She was a very sweet woman, but I think kind of brainwashed by him," reported the Associated Press, quoting Anne Kilzer, a Belmont, Mass., woman who said she knew Russell and her 3-year-old daughter.
That kind of assumption isn't new to Schreiber, 26, a Greenbelt, Md., woman who became a Muslim in 2010.
"The moment you put on a hijab, people assume that you've forfeited your free will," says Schreiber, who favors traditional Islamic dress. 
The Boston terror attack and the questions about whether Russell knew about her husband's deadly plans have renewed stereotypes and misconceptions that U.S. women who have chosen that faith say they want to dispel.
"It's not because somebody made me do this," explains Schreiber, who converted after a college study-abroad trip to West Africa. "It's what I choose to do and I'm happy."

Rebecca Minor, 28, of West Hartford, Conn., converted to Islam five years ago. Wearing a hijab "reminds me to be a good person," she said.
Her view is echoed by Rebecca Minor, 28, of West Hartford, Conn., a special education teacher who converted to Islam five years ago. When her students, ages 5 to 8, ask why she wears a headscarf, she always says the same thing: "It's something that's important to me and it reminds me to be a good person," says Minor, who is secretary for the Muslim Coalition of Connecticut. 

Muslims make up less than 1 percent of the U.S. population, according to studies by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. In 2011, about 1.8 million U.S. adults were Muslim, and about 20 percent had converted to the faith, Pew researchers say. Of those converts, about 54 percent were men and 46 percent were women. About 1 in 5 converts mentioned family factors, including marrying a Muslim, as a reason for adopting the faith. 

Accusations are 'harsh'
Women convert for a wide range of reasons - spiritual, intellectual and romantic - says Yvonne Haddad, a professor of the history of Islam and Christian-Muslim relations at Georgetown University.

"Islam is attractive to women that the feminist movement left behind," says Haddad, who co-authored a 2006 book, "Muslim Women in America: The Challenge of Islamic Identity Today."

Lindsey Faraj, 26, of Charlotte, N.C., converted to Islam four years ago. She says it was thoughtful, heart-felt choice that changed her life.
Women like Lindsey Faraj, 26, of Charlotte, N.C., say that wearing a headscarf and other traditional Islamic garb in public often leads people to assume she sacrificed her American life to please a man.

"'You must have converted in order to marry him,' I hear it all the time," says Faraj, who actually converted simultaneously with her husband, Wathek Faraj, who is from Damascus, about four years ago. 

She's also heard people say that her husband is allowed to beat her, that she's not free to get a divorce, that she and her two children, ages 4 months and 2, are subservient to the man. Such concepts are untrue, of course, she says.

"In the beginning, it did offend me a lot," says Faraj, who grew up in a Christian family in Florida. "But now as my sense of my new self has grown, I don't feel offended."

She's able to joke, for instance, about the woman who screamed insults from a passing car.

"They screamed: 'Go back to your own country' and I thought, 'It doesn't get more white than this, girl,'" says Faraj, indicating her fair features. 

Like all stereotypes, such views are steeped in fear, says Haddad.

"Accusations of brainwashing are harsh," she says. "They cover up the fact that we don't comprehend why people like 'us' want to change and be like 'them.'"

All three women say they came to Islam after much thought and spiritual searching.

Islam 'entered my heart'
Schreiber, who is a community outreach and events coordinator for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, says she was drawn to the religion after meeting other Muslims on her trip abroad before graduating from St. Mary's College of Maryland in 2009. 

She grew up in an agnostic family where she was encouraged to discover her own faith. 

"It was, whatever you decide to do - temple, church, mosque - I support you finding yourself," says Schreiber. She's now married to a Muslim man, Muhammad Oda, 27, whose parents were both converts to Islam. She said came to the faith before the relationship. 

Faraj, a stay-at-home mom, says she never saw herself "as a religious person, in the least," but became enthralled after trying to learn more about Islam before a visit to see her husband's family. 

"The concept of Islam hit me," Faraj recalls. "It was just something that entered my heart."

Minor, who is single, says she was intrigued by Islam in college, when she was close friends with a deployed American Marine but had Muslim friends at school.

"I saw a huge discrepancy in the negative things I heard coming from my (friend) and the actions I could see in my co-workers," she recalls. After spending 18 months learning about Islam, she decided to convert. 

The response from family and friends has been overwhelmingly supportive, Minor says. 

"The more you can do to educate people about Islam, not by preaching, but by actions, the better," she says. 

Reports that Katherine Russell might have been embroiled in an abusive relationship, or that her husband intimidated her aren't an indictment of Islam, Haddad says. 

"Abusive men come in all colors, nationalities, ethnicities and from all religions," she says. "No one says that Christianity teaches abuse of women because some Christian men are abusive."

Schreiber says she frequently gets comments from people surprised to see her fair skin and hear her American accent from beneath a scarf. She says she appreciates it when people actually ask questions instead of making assumptions.

"I just want people to know that there are American Muslim women who wear hijab by choice because they believe in it and it feels right to them, not because anyone tells them to."
Source: NBC News - JoNel Aleccia, Senior Writer, NBC News




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[mukto-mona] Re: [Dahuk]: Re: [KHABOR] Hasan Madmud's film



মাত্র ক'দিন আগে জ্যাকসন হাইটসে এক আড্ডায় একজন বললো: লক্ষ্য করেছেন যে, আমাদের কারো বউ কিন্তু সৌদি বা মধ্যপ্রাচ্যের নয়; ওরা আমাদের স্থায়ীভাবে থাকতেও দেয়না; এমনকি মরলে নিতান্ত বাধ্য না হলে মৃতদেহও দাফন করতে দেয়না। অথচ আমরা মুসলমানরা ভাই-ভাই। তিনি যোগ করলেন: অথচ ওই শালাদের জন্যে আমরা নিজেরা নিজেরা মারামারি করছি।

বন্ধুগণ, আমার প্রশ্নের পাশ কাটিয়ে অন্য প্রসংগ আনা যায়; কিন্তু উত্তর দেয়া যায়না; কারণ উত্তর নাই। আবারো একটি প্রশ্ন করি:' বাংলাদেশে ৪২ বছরে হাজার হাজার মন্দির ও মুর্ক্তি ভাঙ্গা হয়েছে; কিন্তু একজনও শাস্তি পায়নি- আছে কোনো উত্তর? নাই।
এর কারণ কি?
 
তাই আমি বারবার বলি: 'সমস্যা স্বীকার করে তবেই সমাধান সম্ভব; নইলে নয়'। ছোটবেলায় পরেছিলাম: 'অমঙ্গলকে হাসিয়া উড়াইয়া দেবার চেষ্টা করিলে মঙ্গল সমেত উড়িয়া যাইবে।' ধন্যবাদ।
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Shumon Ahmed <shumonoh@yahoo.com> wrote:
More hindus than anyone else are having excellent life style in the Middle East. They are running businesses, they are privileged in the government and private job markets, etc.

From: Mohammad Rahman <mrahman246@yahoo.com>
To: "guhasb@gmail.com" <guhasb@gmail.com>
Cc: "khabor@yahoogroups com" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>; mukto-mona Yahoogroups <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:38 PM
Subject: [Dahuk]: Re: [KHABOR] Hasan Madmud's film
 
"Like father like son" theis proverb is very appropriate for you. Jamon natri taymon shishoo. Guha tumi manush hao. My paternal property is either forcefully taken from Hindu or bought with nominal price is nothing but your hallucination. You better need help and as you live in New York there are many experienced psychologist available. Better seek help before your symptoms become severe.


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From: Sitangshu Guha <guhasb@gmail.com>; To: Mohammad Rahman <mrahman246@yahoo.com>; Cc: khabor@yahoogroups com <khabor@yahoogroups.com>; mukto-mona Yahoogroups <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; Subject: Re: [KHABOR] Hasan Madmud's film Sent: Sat, Apr 27, 2013 4:03:49 PM
হ্যালো মি: রহমান: হিন্দুর সম্পত্তি দখল করার সময় আওয়ামী লীগ-বিএনপি-জামাত-জাপা ভাই ভাই। আপনি একটু খুঁজে দেখলে হয়তো জানবেন, আপনার পৈত্রিক সম্পত্তিটিও কোনো হিন্দুর থেকে জোর করে নেয়া অথবা নামমাত্র মূল্যে কেনা। পৃথিবীতে এমন কোনো মুসলিম দেশ নাই যেদেশে অন্যধর্মিযরা ভালো আছেন; সুতারং আপনারা যেখানে শাসক সেখানে আমাদের তো গুহাতেই থাকতে হবে। 
 
On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Mohammad Rahman <mrahman246@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hai Mr Guha
Where are you? Your brother Mr Rana occupied Rabindranath Saha's land and built garments factory without approval forced workers to work in the cracked building caused 365 deaths so far. Are you in the cave?


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From: Sitangshu Guha <guhasb@gmail.com>; To: Khobor <khabor@yahoogroups.com>; mokto mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; Subject: [KHABOR] Hasan Madmud's film Sent: Sat, Apr 27, 2013 12:05:49 AM
 



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Re: [mukto-mona] Extremists (Muslim and Non-Muslim) should STOP using fowl words and spreading hatred in blogs



Trust me please, I wouldn't consider him as my punchbag.  He is more like a rotten pillow.  One punch is good enough to get him off the scene.  A person who considers Hefajoti Shafi as like his father and S. A. Hannan as his guru is really a hard core reactionary.


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Nah, I would not go that far. I bet you must be missing your punch bag?
-SD
 
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS

From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:37 PM

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Extremists (Muslim and Non-Muslim) should STOP using fowl words and spreading hatred in blogs

 
Most of his credentials are likely to be untrue.


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Professor Pannah's main problem was that he thought he would be treated differently because of his PHD (Piled Higher and Deeper). It sounds like he is a great soldier with a weak heart! He retreated before he could even get a full court of audience. 

The true Muktomonas are not obliged to agree with anything as long as the logical lines are articulated. The man just failed to respond. He should come back when he feels he is ready.
-SD
 
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS

From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "Dr. Em Pannah epannah"@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Extremists (Muslim and Non-Muslim) should STOP using fowl words and spreading hatred in blogs

 
You have seen recently several postings from a Non-Muslim blogger spreading personal hatred against me.

Blogs should be used to exchange views in a meaningful way. Although using fowl words and spreading hatred in blogs are unethical but it became a norm somehow for few extremist bloggers to use fowl words and spreading hatred there.

Instead of spoiling time in fighting with the extremist bloggers, I want to retire from these unfriendly digital environment. Before saying GOODBYE to you, please allow me to submit, for the LAST time, the following requests, recommendations, and comments to my respectable Bangladeshi brothers and sisters (from all parties) for their kind considerations:


>>>>>>>>>> Sadly this is the environment of "Mukto-mona". fowl language and personal attacks comes easily IF you dare to disagree with some of them!!

I have seen even "Freedom fighters" are not spared (Albeit they claim to be on your side) IF you dare speaking your mind or their "Political ideology".

SOME members of this forum are "Walking contradiction" to whatever they want YOU to adhere to.

If you wait long enough, you will be called "Razakar" or "Jamati". Most likly the people you fought against during 71.


I found your proposal rational and balanced. You have repeatedly spoke for democracy. I think this is the best hope for our country. Since democracy requires us to respect different point of views, we have to strive to get ourselves to that point.

Thank you for your contribution to our country.

Shalom!




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Sent: Sat, Apr 27, 2013 4:25 am
Subject: [mukto-mona] Extremists (Muslim and Non-Muslim) should STOP using fowl words and spreading hatred in blogs

 
Dear Readers,
 
You have seen recently several postings from a Non-Muslim blogger spreading personal hatred against me.

Blogs should be used to exchange views in a meaningful way. Although using fowl words and spreading hatred in blogs are unethical but it became a norm somehow for few extremist bloggers to use fowl words and spreading hatred there.

Instead of spoiling time in fighting with the extremist bloggers, I want to retire from these unfriendly digital environment. Before saying GOODBYE to you, please allow me to submit, for the LAST time, the following requests, recommendations, and comments to my respectable Bangladeshi brothers and sisters (from all parties) for their kind considerations:
 
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1. Neither the picketers attacking police nor police applying excessive force are acceptable -please save human lives
2. Bloggers should be duly punished if they write/say derogatory words against the sacred Islam/Holy Prophet (pbuh)
3. Hortal is a recipe for the destruction of Bangladesh economy and no political leader has the authority to call hortal
4. Please STOP hortal - you can stop working if you don't want to work but you must not violate others' right to work
5. All religious meeting places (Mosque, Temple, Pagoda, Church, Senegal, etc.) must be honored and protected
6. Non-Muslims are not necessarily Nastik as most of them believe in the creator in their own religious ways
7. Please let people of different religions and cultures live harmoniously in Bangladesh and in the world
8. Please STOP profanity and do not attack any religion - religions are sacred and must be honored
9. Please let religion be people's private affair and don't mingled sacred religions with state affairs
10. Bangladesh belongs to all Bangladeshis - Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, and others alike
11. Please don't destroy the hard-earned freedom of Bangladesh - let us save it jointly at any cost
12. Please maintain a good but mutually respectable relationship with all the neighboring countries
13. Please promote the freedom of speech - everybody has the right to speak but not to hurt others
14. Please compromise the political differences for the sake of the motherland - precious Bangladesh
15. Please STOP the extremism and be MODERATE - establish your right and honor the right of others
16. Bangladesh belongs to its men and women equally - nobody should try to suppress the women's rights
17. Bangladeshi women must be organized to protect them from the fanatics and to exercise their lawful rights
18. Please promote technical education in Bangladesh - don't stay behind as the world is moving fast in technology
19. Extremists (Muslim and Non-Muslim) should STOP spreading hatred - rather test their popularity in the elections
20. Create a congenial atmosphere for all parties to participate in election ensuring a truly representative government
21. Hold the next general election (as per schedule) free-and-fair under the observation of a strong international body
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GOODBYE
 
With best regards,
Muktijodha Dr. Emarat Hossain Pannah

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Doctor of Management (Cybersecurity, Privacy, and Identity Theft), MS, MSc., CISSP, CAP, CISM, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM, Foundations of Cybersecurity
Cybersecurity Professional, Textbook Writer/Publisher, and Adjunct Assistant Professor in USA
Primary email: epannah@yahoo.com | Secondary email: em.pannah@faculty.umuc.edu
Primary phone: (443) 690-3955 | Secondary phone: (301) 358-9232
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