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Monday, March 13, 2017

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: MUJIB'S 7TH MARCH SPEECH, NEGOTIATION, SURRENDER AND DEATH



Maulana might not have been a true believer of a free Bangladesh. I do not see any rationale for him to demand a free Bangladesh from Pakistan in 1971. He joined the struggle because there was no other real alternative available for him to lean on. What I see is that the situation had surprised him like many other political leaders. Maulana was a good man but not a great politician like Mujib!


On Monday, March 13, 2017 10:26 PM, "GT International gti82@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Mr. Mushrafee,
You are just bringing INSULT to Maulana Bhashani by bringing this dishonest argument. It was definitely Sk. Mujib who had shown the courtesy and respect to Mr. Bhashani over an over. Unfortunately Mujib did not get the same from narrow minded small politicians. You should stop this trash talk here which only brings down Bhashani unnecessarily. Everyone has their own place in history as it should. You can not RE-WRITE history. March 7th speech by Sheikh Mujib was essentially declaring independence which was done very SMARTLY under the situation; you can go ahead and listen again since you missed some of the key points. Then on March 25th more clearer declaring came from Mujib which we all know except few Paki boot-leaker RAZAKAR their followers. STOP you B***Sh*** here.

-Russel



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Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: MUJIB'S 7TH MARCH SPEECH, NEGOTIATION, SURRENDER AND DEATH
 
 
It is really a psychological peoblem of few so called "intelectuals". They sharpens their tongue to sting people, policies and ideas randomly. Its a strongly negative attitude with ugly habit of undermining others without any base. 

Mr.Bhashani was a historic personality who had no no intention to grab power. He lived very plainly and spoke for the interest of the people and nation. He mobilized long March against Farrakka barrage, he organised vital political dialogue "Kagmari Conference". 

The people with ill intentions always tries to sting others for no apparent reason. They are simply ill in psyche. 




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From: "DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 11/03/2017 7:25 AM (GMT+08:00)
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Post Card <abahar.canada@gmail.com>, Jalal Khan <jukhan@gmail.com>, Zoglul Husain <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com>, rashed Anam <rashedanam1971@gmail.com>, Mohamed Nazir <nazir0101@gmail.com>, Mohammad Gani <mgani69@gmail.com>, Mina Farah <farahmina@gmail.com>, Farida Hossain <druhfarida@gmail.com>, "Dr. KMA Malik" <kmamalik15@gmail.com>, New England Bnp <bnp.newengland@yahoo.com>, Bangla Press <banglapress@gmail.com>, Bangladesh Nationalist Party <bnp.canada2011@gmail.com>, mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, M.JamalGhaus@gmail.com
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: MUJIB'S 7TH MARCH SPEECH, NEGOTIATION, SURRENDER AND DEATH

 
There is no comparison between a clout-less illiterate Maulana and a struggle-hardened Mujib. While Mujib had the voters' mandate to rule, Maulana had no political power base at all except some negligible voters' support like communists and NAP parties were having at that time. People did not even vote for that poor guy. So, what Bhasani said or did was basically irrelevant to Bangladeshi independence. It was Mujib, who was courteous enough to make some space for Maulana and welcomed him to the liberation movement. Make no mistake that his absence during the liberation time would not have changed the history. Accrording to Yahya's affidavit, Bhasani's stance was rather dubious about Bangladeshi independence. He was overtly very friendly to Yahya junta and wanted to accommodate dictator's wish for an intact Pakistan. Bluntly put, the man was not a trustworthy politician. He wanted to be a communist in a Maulana garb but did not know much about real communism.
    





On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Post Card <abahar.canada@gmail.com> wrote:
MUJIB'S 7TH MARCH SPEECH, NEGOTIATION, SURRENDER AND DEATH
Abid Bahar

Mujib's 7th March speech has been hailed by members of Mujib cult as the declaration of independence. A careful examination of the speech shows
something different from what is projected for people's consumption.Although on 7th March, Mujib made a good deliberation but research shows, it
 was only an" If Speech" (Jodi Akta Goli Pora). It was not much different from Maulana Bhasani's "if speech." The latter saying if autonomy demand wasn't accepted, then "Assalamu Alikum" meaning goodbye that is independence. 

Surprisingly, what BKSALITe overenthusists Mujib worshippers are making of the speech was not seen in newspapers after the speech. On the other hand newspapers reported people's frustration for not declaring independence. Then the worst happened. The hypocrite Mujib negotiated with the enemy to save Pakistan.then as the top leader of the country even motivated by his self interest of safety for himself
 and his family even voluntarily surrendered to the enemy, making him the greatest betrayer of all times. Upon his return from
Pakistan, he should have been arrested as a razakar and like Golam Azam who was also known as the  "Bhasha Sainik," Mujib the razakar #1 and
Hasina the razakar #2 should have been tried by the court for treason. Mujib wasn't killed by the Pakistani army but died in the hand of freedom fighters.

Today, Hasina carries the burden of Mujib's razakar legacy, lately she removed from the museum Zia's medal of valor at the liberation war . This move by Hasina  says a lot. that Hasina's "Mukti Juddher Chatona" is in disguise the razakar #2's  fight against this brave Mukti juddha. It says more when we see Hasina is selling Bangladesh to India for "one dollar" what we had earned in exchange for huge pool of blood.

In not understanding Mujibbadi fascism, and not taking proper nonviolent measures, today, through Indian puppetry, Mujibbadi extremism is growing leaps and bound because it remained unabated. The Mujibbadi hero-worshippers lately even made a law for jail terms to people criticize Mujib. In this latest fascist measure, surely freedom of speech by historians taken away.

Surely, freedom struggle against fascism and razakarism still continues.
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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: MUJIB'S 7TH MARCH SPEECH, NEGOTIATION, SURRENDER AND DEATH



Dear me! I am not here to show my respect for any damn politicians. If I take the line of respect and praise for all our politicians, why  should I even write a critical opinion? If you do not agree with my version of writing, why not write your own version portraying Maulana in a more favorable way? How did Maulana contribute to the Bangladeshi freedom fighting? Please enlighten us if you care.

Mujib was not a perfect politician but his contribution to our freedom was immense and a selfless act. He could have been killed in Pakistani prison. Nobody comes near to Mujib despite some of his shortcomings. More importantly, he did not betray us and the nascent nation . Do you agree with that?


On Monday, March 13, 2017 10:28 PM, "Mohammad Mushrafi mushrafi@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
This is a little better. A sense of respectivity is civility.  Pulling some one down from respect does not harm him/her who are already placed in respect. Such huge as Mr. Bhashani. Only those, who habitually use disrespectful words, reduces to nothing.



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Date: 12/03/2017 9:48 AM (GMT+08:00)
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: MUJIB'S 7TH MARCH SPEECH, NEGOTIATION, SURRENDER AND DEATH

 
The question is rather what Maulana did for Bangladeshi independence with his weak political clout and followings. Why should we put him on the same pedestal with Mujib? Why Bashani's intention should be grabbing the power when he could not even get more than handful parliamentary seats? I do not see any of his political campaigns leading to Bangladeshi independence. That was my point.















On Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:57 AM, "Mohammad Mushrafi mushrafi@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
It is really a psychological peoblem of few so called "intelectuals". They sharpens their tongue to sting people, policies and ideas randomly. Its a strongly negative attitude with ugly habit of undermining others without any base. 

Mr.Bhashani was a historic personality who had no no intention to grab power. He lived very plainly and spoke for the interest of the people and nation. He mobilized long March against Farrakka barrage, he organised vital political dialogue "Kagmari Conference". 

The people with ill intentions always tries to sting others for no apparent reason. They are simply ill in psyche. 




Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


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From: "DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 11/03/2017 7:25 AM (GMT+08:00)
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Post Card <abahar.canada@gmail.com>, Jalal Khan <jukhan@gmail.com>, Zoglul Husain <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com>, rashed Anam <rashedanam1971@gmail.com>, Mohamed Nazir <nazir0101@gmail.com>, Mohammad Gani <mgani69@gmail.com>, Mina Farah <farahmina@gmail.com>, Farida Hossain <druhfarida@gmail.com>, "Dr. KMA Malik" <kmamalik15@gmail.com>, New England Bnp <bnp.newengland@yahoo.com>, Bangla Press <banglapress@gmail.com>, Bangladesh Nationalist Party <bnp.canada2011@gmail.com>, mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, M.JamalGhaus@gmail.com
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: MUJIB'S 7TH MARCH SPEECH, NEGOTIATION, SURRENDER AND DEATH

 
There is no comparison between a clout-less illiterate Maulana and a struggle-hardened Mujib. While Mujib had the voters' mandate to rule, Maulana had no political power base at all except some negligible voters' support like communists and NAP parties were having at that time. People did not even vote for that poor guy. So, what Bhasani said or did was basically irrelevant to Bangladeshi independence. It was Mujib, who was courteous enough to make some space for Maulana and welcomed him to the liberation movement. Make no mistake that his absence during the liberation time would not have changed the history. Accrording to Yahya's affidavit, Bhasani's stance was rather dubious about Bangladeshi independence. He was overtly very friendly to Yahya junta and wanted to accommodate dictator's wish for an intact Pakistan. Bluntly put, the man was not a trustworthy politician. He wanted to be a communist in a Maulana garb but did not know much about real communism.
    





On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Post Card <abahar.canada@gmail.com> wrote:
MUJIB'S 7TH MARCH SPEECH, NEGOTIATION, SURRENDER AND DEATH
Abid Bahar

Mujib's 7th March speech has been hailed by members of Mujib cult as the declaration of independence. A careful examination of the speech shows
something different from what is projected for people's consumption.Although on 7th March, Mujib made a good deliberation but research shows, it
 was only an" If Speech" (Jodi Akta Goli Pora). It was not much different from Maulana Bhasani's "if speech." The latter saying if autonomy demand wasn't accepted, then "Assalamu Alikum" meaning goodbye that is independence. 

Surprisingly, what BKSALITe overenthusists Mujib worshippers are making of the speech was not seen in newspapers after the speech. On the other hand newspapers reported people's frustration for not declaring independence. Then the worst happened. The hypocrite Mujib negotiated with the enemy to save Pakistan.then as the top leader of the country even motivated by his self interest of safety for himself
 and his family even voluntarily surrendered to the enemy, making him the greatest betrayer of all times. Upon his return from
Pakistan, he should have been arrested as a razakar and like Golam Azam who was also known as the  "Bhasha Sainik," Mujib the razakar #1 and
Hasina the razakar #2 should have been tried by the court for treason. Mujib wasn't killed by the Pakistani army but died in the hand of freedom fighters.

Today, Hasina carries the burden of Mujib's razakar legacy, lately she removed from the museum Zia's medal of valor at the liberation war . This move by Hasina  says a lot. that Hasina's "Mukti Juddher Chatona" is in disguise the razakar #2's  fight against this brave Mukti juddha. It says more when we see Hasina is selling Bangladesh to India for "one dollar" what we had earned in exchange for huge pool of blood.

In not understanding Mujibbadi fascism, and not taking proper nonviolent measures, today, through Indian puppetry, Mujibbadi extremism is growing leaps and bound because it remained unabated. The Mujibbadi hero-worshippers lately even made a law for jail terms to people criticize Mujib. In this latest fascist measure, surely freedom of speech by historians taken away.

Surely, freedom struggle against fascism and razakarism still continues.
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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: MUJIB'S 7TH MARCH SPEECH, NEGOTIATION, SURRENDER AND DEATH



Mr. Mushrafee,

You are just bringing INSULT to Maulana Bhashani by bringing this dishonest argument. It was definitely Sk. Mujib who had shown the courtesy and respect to Mr. Bhashani over an over. Unfortunately Mujib did not get the same from narrow minded small politicians. You should stop this trash talk here which only brings down Bhashani unnecessarily. Everyone has their own place in history as it should. You can not RE-WRITE history. March 7th speech by Sheikh Mujib was essentially declaring independence which was done very SMARTLY under the situation; you can go ahead and listen again since you missed some of the key points. Then on March 25th more clearer declaring came from Mujib which we all know except few Paki boot-leaker RAZAKAR their followers. STOP you B***Sh*** here.


-Russel




From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Mohammad Mushrafi mushrafi@hotmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:15 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: MUJIB'S 7TH MARCH SPEECH, NEGOTIATION, SURRENDER AND DEATH
 
 

It is really a psychological peoblem of few so called "intelectuals". They sharpens their tongue to sting people, policies and ideas randomly. Its a strongly negative attitude with ugly habit of undermining others without any base. 

Mr.Bhashani was a historic personality who had no no intention to grab power. He lived very plainly and spoke for the interest of the people and nation. He mobilized long March against Farrakka barrage, he organised vital political dialogue "Kagmari Conference". 

The people with ill intentions always tries to sting others for no apparent reason. They are simply ill in psyche. 




Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


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From: "DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 11/03/2017 7:25 AM (GMT+08:00)
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Post Card <abahar.canada@gmail.com>, Jalal Khan <jukhan@gmail.com>, Zoglul Husain <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com>, rashed Anam <rashedanam1971@gmail.com>, Mohamed Nazir <nazir0101@gmail.com>, Mohammad Gani <mgani69@gmail.com>, Mina Farah <farahmina@gmail.com>, Farida Hossain <druhfarida@gmail.com>, "Dr. KMA Malik" <kmamalik15@gmail.com>, New England Bnp <bnp.newengland@yahoo.com>, Bangla Press <banglapress@gmail.com>, Bangladesh Nationalist Party <bnp.canada2011@gmail.com>, mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, M.JamalGhaus@gmail.com
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: MUJIB'S 7TH MARCH SPEECH, NEGOTIATION, SURRENDER AND DEATH

 

There is no comparison between a clout-less illiterate Maulana and a struggle-hardened Mujib. While Mujib had the voters' mandate to rule, Maulana had no political power base at all except some negligible voters' support like communists and NAP parties were having at that time. People did not even vote for that poor guy. So, what Bhasani said or did was basically irrelevant to Bangladeshi independence. It was Mujib, who was courteous enough to make some space for Maulana and welcomed him to the liberation movement. Make no mistake that his absence during the liberation time would not have changed the history. Accrording to Yahya's affidavit, Bhasani's stance was rather dubious about Bangladeshi independence. He was overtly very friendly to Yahya junta and wanted to accommodate dictator's wish for an intact Pakistan. Bluntly put, the man was not a trustworthy politician. He wanted to be a communist in a Maulana garb but did not know much about real communism.
    





On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Post Card <abahar.canada@gmail.com> wrote:
MUJIB'S 7TH MARCH SPEECH, NEGOTIATION, SURRENDER AND DEATH
Abid Bahar

Mujib's 7th March speech has been hailed by members of Mujib cult as the declaration of independence. A careful examination of the speech shows
something different from what is projected for people's consumption.Although on 7th March, Mujib made a good deliberation but research shows, it
 was only an" If Speech" (Jodi Akta Goli Pora). It was not much different from Maulana Bhasani's "if speech." The latter saying if autonomy demand wasn't accepted, then "Assalamu Alikum" meaning goodbye that is independence. 

Surprisingly, what BKSALITe overenthusists Mujib worshippers are making of the speech was not seen in newspapers after the speech. On the other hand newspapers reported people's frustration for not declaring independence. Then the worst happened. The hypocrite Mujib negotiated with the enemy to save Pakistan.then as the top leader of the country even motivated by his self interest of safety for himself
 and his family even voluntarily surrendered to the enemy, making him the greatest betrayer of all times. Upon his return from
Pakistan, he should have been arrested as a razakar and like Golam Azam who was also known as the  "Bhasha Sainik," Mujib the razakar #1 and
Hasina the razakar #2 should have been tried by the court for treason. Mujib wasn't killed by the Pakistani army but died in the hand of freedom fighters.

Today, Hasina carries the burden of Mujib's razakar legacy, lately she removed from the museum Zia's medal of valor at the liberation war . This move by Hasina  says a lot. that Hasina's "Mukti Juddher Chatona" is in disguise the razakar #2's  fight against this brave Mukti juddha. It says more when we see Hasina is selling Bangladesh to India for "one dollar" what we had earned in exchange for huge pool of blood.

In not understanding Mujibbadi fascism, and not taking proper nonviolent measures, today, through Indian puppetry, Mujibbadi extremism is growing leaps and bound because it remained unabated. The Mujibbadi hero-worshippers lately even made a law for jail terms to people criticize Mujib. In this latest fascist measure, surely freedom of speech by historians taken away.

Surely, freedom struggle against fascism and razakarism still continues.

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[mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} HASINA'S RAZAKAR CABINET



Thats my grandniece Princess Zakia -- and she knows how to kick ass and the cohorts of past 2-paisa tin-soldier Military dictator -- she knows how to protect Bangladesh from EVIL forces.  She is the future generation with all the blessings of Almighty Allah!


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Ibrahim "...মুক্তিযোদ্ধার তালিকা থেকে, বীরোত্তম, মুক্তিযোদ্ধা, স্বাধাীনতার ঘোষক , শহীদ প্রেসিডেন্ট জিয়াউর রহমান এর নাম বাদ দেয়া হবে।
অবৈধ , অনির্বাচিত , ঘসেটি বিবি , হাসিনা কে সতর্ক করছি, হুশিয়ার বার্তায় বলতে চাই
যদি শহীদ প্রেসিডেস্ট জিয়াউর রহমান এর নাম মুক্তিযোদ্ধার তালিকা থেকে বাদ দেয়ার দু:সাহস দেখানো হয়।, তবে শেখ মুজিবের নাম চির তরে এ দেশের মাটি থেকে মুছে দেয়া হবে ।
ইনশাআল্লাহ্....
মনে রাখবেন, ছেলের হাতে আগুন দিয়ে খেলবেন না!---...

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