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[mukto-mona] Re: BBC article containing misinformation. Send email demaning removal of the article from the site

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Jamaat being the leading voice and platform of all the war
collaboarators and razakars during 1971 is a "misinformation" to you?
Would you please enlighten us with the information?

J.A.


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[ALOCHONA] Lahore Resolution outlined Bangladesh's separate entity

Lahore Resolution outlined Bangladesh's separate entity

M.T.Hussain


Is it not fantastic to hear from some section here that Bangladesh had its independence in March 1971 that owed everything for happenings and movements by people between 1952-1971? Did not the assertion mean that Bangladesh had only a background history of people's struggle of 18 years and nothing beyond prior to 1952 for independence?

Neither Bangladesh is a 'newfound land' nor all are newly settled people living here only after around 1952. Geographically, it is quite ancient a land and the people are equally old settlers, though composition of races changed and intermixed from time to time through millenniums of human habitation. Not only that it was so about the composition of the people but the country had also been independent as an entity, bigger in land size though, long before in the 15th century ruled by the Ilias Shah dynasty as a Muslim welfare state having everything of sovereignty at that point of history and human civility. Again soon after the weakening of the Mughals in Bengal, it is well known that our country had been similarly independent that the British conspired to take over from Seraj Ud Daula in 1757 A.D. through deep conspiracy based in the then Calcutta (now Kolkata). Our forefathers had to struggle hard afterwards for 190 years until 1947 to get rid of the British and their local henchmen. And in the struggle a critical and culminating point of history was reached in 1940, in this month of March on the 23-24, 68 years ago, meeting then in a special session of their own political organization, All India Muslim League held in Lahore, the then provincial capital of the united province of the British Indian Punjab. The session though was presided over by the Muslim League President Muhammad Ali Jinnah, the resolution that outlined among other things the location and separate identity of what is now known as Bangladesh along with what constitutes Pakistan territory was spearheaded by Sher E Bangla A K Fazlul Haq, the then Prime Minister of the British Indian province of Bengal (united) having capital at Calcutta (Kolkata). Had there been no Lahore Resolution of 1940 passed unanimously and implemented through further follow up united struggle, there would have been neither Pakistan in 1947 nor Bangladesh in 1971. It is as such really amazing that while in March the independence of Bangladesh is celebrated with all razzmatazz, the March 23 commemoration of the Lahore Resolution is kept under the carpet for our present generation to forget everything about it.

If one would go in a bit of background, one is certain to see clearly that the Muslim League until 1940 and even after sought nothing more than the minimum as equal rights of citizen as would any other have which the Congress party hardly intended to accede. On the contrary, the Congress went on doing almost everything against the interests of the Muslims in every way they could lay hands on. That was what the Muslim minorities experienced shockingly in all cultural and economic matters when following the 1937 election Congress ministries were formed the seven of the eleven provinces in the British Indian dominion.

The governments in those provinces, for instance, imposed their party chorus Bande Mataram as the compulsory song for school class starting in all academic institutions that the Muslim children did distaste for religious belief in monotheism. They imposed further in schools bowing down to the portrait of Gandhi hung in class rooms that as well the Muslim students did not relish for religious faith. In employment and business the Muslims were sidelined. The frustration for such grievances led to jubilation of the Muslims at the fall of those Congress ministries in December 1939 followed by observance of the DAY OF DELIVERNCE by the Muslim


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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: War Criminals of 1971: Time to Take Action

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Mr. Abu Sayeed Rahman

Basically, you are putting the burden on Awami League and thereby
divert the attention of the nation from the real issue
i.e the Trial of the war criminals and the collaborators of the occupation
Army during our Liberation War.

Do you agree that war criminals and the collaborators of the occupation
Army. should face trial (or should have faced) trial?

It is the failure of the whole nation, not just of Awami League [1996- 2001]
that the war criminal and collaborators have not been put under trial
and punished as yet.

All the devils should be given their due..... It is never too late....
By the way, are you a Jamaati supporter or have personal stake if the
Trial of the war-criminals happen now?

Jamaat's student front Islami Chattro Sangha was the hard core of
Al-Bodor/ Al-Shams that carried out most of the killings of innocent
civillians during our Liberation War. Jamaat was the mastermind behind
the killing of Dhaka University professors and intellectuals in 1971.

Syed Aslam

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[mukto-mona] Re: the NY TIMES editorial on Obama's speech on race & religion

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Jahed,

My question is simply this - does an idiot have to be elected to be
President of the world's wealthiest nation? :-)

Surely in a country with more than 300 million people, there are vastly
better candidates.

Mehul.


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[mukto-mona] MSNBC video link to Obama's speech on race and religion

Not sure if everyone has had a chance to listen to this speech. I believe, hearing the speech directly would be more helpful than reading others' comments on it in order to make a fair judgement (whether for or against). 
 
Obama-mania (or Obama-phobia)  apart, the speech is worth listening as it touches upon an issue which is profoundly prevailing yet often overlooked.    
 
 
 
J.A.

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[mukto-mona] Re: the NY TIMES editorial on Obama's speech on race & religion

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Mehul, don't you think that in the "land of equal opportunity", every
idiot should be given a chance to run for the white house. :-)

Jahed

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[ALOCHONA] Re: Middle East Labour: Recruiting agents blamed

Dear Zunaid

I too do not want to argue with you as I think we actually do not
differ much on substance – though perhaps we do differ much on style.

I don't care if what I write is tantamount to an insult. I write to
offend but someone needs to. Just look at what I described in the
Embassy. You may describe it as a rather unfortunate affair, which
though unusual, is simply symptomatic of a third world country. I
don't.

You should find the Embassy incident – and the many others I
mention – that are born in fact, far more insulting to our nation
than any of my words that are born in obvious rage. Rather, I find
genteel and polite discussions of such features of our nation as
insulting.

My words are more disturbing than the events in the Embassy? Therein
lies our difference. The Embassy incident – and many, many more –
cry out for scathing review, blistering rebuke and sulphuric
sarcasm. I mourn the limitations of my brain for I am simply not
acidic or clever enough to do the subject matter justice. May Allah
forgive my weakness and sear my mind with a far harsher intellect.
That I may better describe the evil of corruption and offend my
politer brothers more. Or perhaps in a nation of 130 million there
is no room for such words? Let's talk about the beast of corruption –
but first understand the nature of the beast.

I accurately described what happened. I never gave the impression
that no one else knows about Kuwait. Don't twist my words. You will
find much of what I wrote is in reply to your own earlier comments
that someone else has far more accurately described Kuwait than me
and the innuendo that somehow I do not know what I am talking about
because I am an NRB – a rather lame and tiresome opinion.

Sorry – I didn't see what you wrote about the response of any
Bangladeshi organizations in Kuwait to the plight of our labourers.
They are all far too busy with fighting between themselves and
bringing politics into everything.

I have every right to call for the removal of Hasina and Khaleda.
What on earth makes you think I have no right to do so? Many people
agree with me, including many labourers with whom I spend far more
time than you do. In fact the labourers I talk to find it quite
refreshing when I verbally assault the political establishment. They
nod their hands when I describe much of our systems as manure.

You are quite insulting to use the argument that it is difficult for
me to leave my job. To me it is a childish and cheap argument used
as a futile last resort.

Western NRBs are not responsible for the mess in Bangladesh. Rather
they have supported millions of Bangladeshis with the sweat of their
brow. Western NRBs have much to offer Bangladesh and, as the trend
shows, need not express shame or seek permission for anything that I
am aware of. I think a lot of people in Bangladesh need to get off
their high pony about Western NRBs and do something practical for
Middle Eastern labourers.

I have no inferiority complex and am fully comfortable with my love
of Bangladesh and my pride in Bangladesh. That is why I can
experience the deep sense of shame and sorrow about the failures and
excesses of my nation. I don't understand how you don't feel a lot of shame or sorrow - perhaps that is my limitation not yours. Nevermind.

How hilarious that you negate my description of events in Kuwait as
an allegation this needing an investigation that. Obviously you have
no idea about just how corrupt the system is. The CTG may get round
to it if is around much longer. Possibly not. And an investigation by
Hasina's AL or Khaleda's BNP! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

HAHAHAHAHA! So funny. So sad. There are tears in my eyes.

You may excuse as much as you want by saying third world instead of
third rate. I won't. Third rate is as third rate does. It's the
God's honest truth, untainted by limitation. Perhaps you would not feel offended if I used 'second rate'? How about 'second rate third world?'

So how many millions of our countrymen had to compromise the values taught them in elementary school in order to keep their job? Are you one of them?

I simply referred to the handicaps of Hasina and Khaleda in order for you to identify them. The real mockery is that so many are comncerned about the handicaps of nethris but care nothing about the thousands of handicapped begging on our streets. However I do appreciate that this concept would not be taught in elementary school.

So the chairman of the parliamentary standing committee on
expatriate affairs calls Kuwait before boarding his flight asking
his contacts, inside and outside the embassy, to arrange meetings
with companies needing labourers. So he can sell visas through his
own company in Bangladesh.

So 200,000 Deshis at risk in Kuwait and not one has a signed
contract!

Because EVERY Bangladeshi broker and dalal is protected by
elected politcians.

First rate manure of the third rate Parliament of a 'second' rate nation.

Quite sincerely

Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait


--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "junaid.sultan" <junaid.sultan@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Mr. Ejazur
>
> I had not intention to indulge in arguments with you but to me the
> writing like these are very disturbing and I quote" Perhaps, you
> have forgotten that during the BNP government a thousand labourers
> attacked and ransacked the Bangladesh Embassy in Kuwait. Another
great
> record for our proud nation. Rest assured that the same attack
would
> have happened under an AL government. This CTG will not last much
> longer. The questions are not about the temporary struggles of the
CTG.
> The real questions are:
> How do you feel about Hasina and Khaleda as PM again?
> What price is worth paying to be rid of Hasina and Khaleda?
> I unquote.
>
> I quote another one." The departure, or demise, of Hasina and
> Khaleda will expose AL and BNP for what they really are... Third
rate
> parties lead by third rate people - in a third rate country."
>
> And I unquote again.
>
> Is not this tantamount to insult to the nation? No sensible man or
woman
> in Bangladesh will claim that we are first rate country because we
are
> not. But under no circumstances, we call ourselves a third rate
country.
>
> Mr. Ejazur, for you it may be important to step into and stay in
manure
> to understand its texture, smell and composition. Otherwise a
common man
> knows these qualities of manure. Come on, we are not interested to
know
> the details what happened in Bangladeshi Embassy in Kuwait. We are
> interested to know why it happened, we are interested to know how
it can
> be avoided in future. You have pointed your fingers on AL. This
should
> have been investigated or still can be investigated if there is any
> substance in this allegation. Or, you are saying this out of your
> political believes. We understand that Kuwait is Kuwait. You are
not in
> Bangladesh where you can hire one thousand goons (you gave the
number)
> and buses to storm a place.
>
> I know you are an authority on Kuwait and nobody can lecture you on
> Kuwait. But don't try to give us the impression that nobody else
> know about Kuwait. Even on the net you will find many charity
> organizations in that country. There are good and bad people in all
> societies. Do you want us to believe that Kuwaitis themselves will
let
> 500 labourers to starve in their country? It is really commendable
and
> appreciable for your group for their contribution of one month's
> salary. This is lot of money. (Now we know you are spearheading a
> group).
>
> I agree that many NRB's went back to the country. But who are they.
> They are again those poor labourers from Middle East. There are
very few
> people and you can count them on your finger tips that came from
West
> with a desire to work for the country. We, in Bangladesh, salute
these
> people though I understand that these people were not awarded with
the
> due respect. People like you, living in Middle Eastern countries
will
> come back only when they will be asked by their employers to
leave. And
> in lot many cases most people working in the Middle Eastern
countries
> have their families settled in Canada or Australia. Tell me
honestly, do
> you have the right to call for the price of getting rid of Khalda
and
> Hasina. Especially from a worker in Saudi Arabia whose job is
already at
> stake. We understand your position. We understand it is extremely
> difficult to leave your job. But don't lecture others to do what is
> difficult for you to do.
>
> Mr. Ejazur, it is not at all necessary to write a song to show your
> patriotism. It is not necessary to listen to patriotic songs day
and
> night to be a patriotic. However, it is worthy to note when you are
> ashamed of your surroundings. Who is around you – your family, your
> motherland? Are you ashamed of them? As a third world country (I
said
> third world country not third rate country) don't we know our
> limitations? What makes us so ashamed?
>
> A man is known by his virtues and not by his physical disability.
This,
> we have learned in our elementary school.
>
> With all my regards
>
>
>
> Junaid
>
>
> In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:
> >
> > Come on Junaid. Do we have to still scratch the surface of words?
> >
> > I never mocked the labourers. I went to the Embassy within an
hour of
> > the disaster. I know what happened, how it happened and why it
> > happened. I know the then Defence Attaché, a Brigadier General,
was
> > mistaken for the Ambassador and beaten up. I know the then
Defence
> > Attache's office was mistaken for the Ambassador's office and
totally
> > ransacked. I know the Ambassador, a political appointee and
current
> > BNP grandee, was hiding in his office. I know the Sonali bank
> > reprentative saved the Ambassador by barricading the door. I
know the
> > then Counsellor was hiding in the bathroom and took his shirt
off to
> > appear as one of the labourers and save himself. I know which
> > manpower brokers support BNP and tried to warn the Embassy. I
know
> > which manpower brokers support AL and paid for the buses to take
the
> > labourers to the Embassy. I know which journalists support BNP
and
> > blamed the labourers. I know which journalists support AL and
blamed
> > the Embassy. I know which BNP officials were sent by the
Government
> > to investigate the incident and labour problems. I know how they
> > deliberately avoided the truth.
> >
> > To understand the texture, smell and composition of manure you
need
> > to step into it first and stay in it for a while.
> >
> > A European priest rallied the expat community in Kuwait to help
500
> > labourers starving in a camp. Many nationalities helped. Please
have
> > a guess as to how many Bangladeshi organizations helped? Come
on –
> > have a guess? NONE – and there are 150 organisations registered.
> In
> > the end it was only my group at a cost of a month's salary each.
> >
> > So please – don't try to lecture me on Kuwait.
> >
> > What do we know? That we are a first class country? I know that
too.
> > Otherwise I would have taken my heart somewhere else a long time
ago.
> > Yes we are a first class nation, with first class people and
first
> > class potential. I can write a love poem to my village in 30
minutes.
> > But that doesn't mean we spend all day and night listening to a
> > million patriotic songs with no sense of shame about what goes on
> > around us.
> >
> > We have to scream SHAME! SHAME! louder to be heard in a room
full of
> > pride and arrogance and ignorance and patriotism. And with
Bengalis
> > we have to provoke and offend and disturb – not just shout.
> >
> > The far corners of the West and the remote corners of Bangladesh
are
> > littered with the broken dreams of NRBs who went back to
Bangladesh
> > to be part of the post independence glory. If we don't know what
they
> > found and if we don't know how they were treated and if we don't
know
> > how they were robbed then we don't know the story of NRB's. Some
can
> > try to win an argument by playing on the complex guilty
complexes of
> > NRBs – but it won't work on me honey.
> >
> > I am the `people like these' that you mention. And to think we
are
> > paper tigers is to underestimate our passion and our commitment.
It
> > is to underestimate what we have done and we will do to take our
> > country back from the demons that have plagued our nation since
> > birth. Underestimate us as you want to. In a way it helps us : )
> >
> > The CTG is NOT to be excused from helping our countrymen in
trouble
> > abroad.
> >
> > Make a list of all the female leaders of the modern era and tell
me
> > which of them are intellectually brilliant and which of them are
not.
> > Go on! You will find only 3 of them are not brilliant.
> >
> > One is Winnie Mandela. The other two come from a first class
country.
> >
> > One is limping on one leg and the other is deaf in one ear.
> >
> > Ezajur Rahman
> >
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "junaid.sultan" junaid.sultan@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Mr. Saeed
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for your very informative narrative. You have
analyzed
> > the
> > > situation very correctly. Especially, when one gentleman in
this
> > column
> > > was trying to mocker the poor workers who ransacked the
Bangladesh
> > > Embassy in Kuwait and our "proud" nation. (I think this
> > > gentleman has immense love for his country. That is why he
calls it
> > a
> > > third rate country). Thanks again for making us aware the real
> > reasons
> > > behind the sad happening in Kuwait years ago.
> > >
> > > The present situation and condition of Bangladeshi workers, as
we
> > see in
> > > the newspapers, is worrying. Lack of initiative by the
Government to
> > > negotiate and resolve this issue is disturbing also. Some high-
up
> > must
> > > visit and reassure particularly the unskilled workers there.
The
> > > Government is too busy planning the exit of Khaleda and Hasina
but
> > these
> > > poor people have nothing to do with the politics of Hasina and
> > Khaleda.
> > > Why these poor people should be made to pay the price to get
rid of
> > > these ladies. Even to think about it is a crime. Those who
talk like
> > > this I invite them to leave their jobs, comeback to the country
> > (even
> > > it's a third rate country) and join the band wagon against
Khaleda
> > > and Hasina. I bet they will not. As somebody rightly said in
the
> > past,
> > > they are paper tiger only.
> > >
> > > For people like these, we also don't want Khaleda and Hasina
to be
> > > PM again. To their beloved Moeen and Fakhruddin let them be the
> > > President and PM but we want them to leave their present
positions
> > and
> > > come through proper channels (through elections).
> > >
> > > Junaid
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"
> > <saeedurrehman92@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I agree with Mr. Ejazur but I would like to add here that the
> > problem
> > > of
> > > > Bangladeshi manpower is much older than last 20 years. In
fact it
> > > > started right from the beginning, in late seventies when
> > Bangladeshis
> > > > started going to Middle Eastern countries in mass scale. The
then
> > > > Government did not have a very clear cut policy as a result a
> > skilled
> > > > Bangladeshi, even an Engineer, was paid less than his Indian
or
> > > > Pakistani counterpart. If I limit my statement to Kuwait and
Saudi
> > > > Arabia, initially, a worker could go there with relatively
low
> > > > expenditure. However, with the passage of time, the export of
> > > unskilled
> > > > workers started increasing. The manpower exporters, who also
> > started
> > > > growing like mushrooms, were more interested in exporting
> > unskilled
> > > > manpower. These were poor people with low educated, come from
> > villages
> > > > and so were easier to cheat. Imagine, as of today, an
unskilled
> > worker
> > > > has to pay Taka 200,000.00 to 300,000.00 to go to Kuwait or
Saudi
> > > > Arabia, with average monthly pay of Taka 5,000.00 and a
contract
> > of 3
> > > > years. Due to lack of a straight forward policy by any past
> > > Governments,
> > > > the sufferings of these poor people kept on multiplying. The
> > > Bangladesh
> > > > Embassy in Kuwait was stormed 3-4 years back by Bangladeshi
> > laborers.
> > > > The Kuwait media was very sympathetic to Bangladeshi workers
at
> > that
> > > > time. The Kuwaitis realized that these laborers are not only
low
> > paid
> > > > but unfortunately not timely paid also. But as usual, the
> > Government
> > > did
> > > > not pay any heed. Some time later a sitting Army Maj. Gen.
who was
> > > made
> > > > ambassador in Kuwait, and who really made some moves for the
> > > betterment
> > > > of laborers, was removed prematurely because of his alleged
> > connection
> > > > to AL. Instead, a high profile office bearer of the party in
> > power was
> > > > made the ambassador of Bangladesh in Kuwait.
> > > >
> > > > I have narrated all this to explain that all Bangladeshi
> > Governments,
> > > > the past and the present, are interested only in the
remittance of
> > > these
> > > > poor workers. It is painful to see the present regime is no
> > different
> > > if
> > > > not worse than the previous Governments. It is very
difficult to
> > > > comprehend why they are following the ostrich policy to the
> > present
> > > > problems of 1.8 millions Bangladeshi labors in Saudi Arabia?
As an
> > > > incumbent they are duty bound to tackle the issue. It is not
> > enough
> > > and
> > > > not acceptable to say that the problem was created by past
> > > Governments,
> > > > we are in power for a short time etc. etc. Perhaps they are
> > spending
> > > > all their time and energy to get rid of Hasina and Khaleda.
With
> > this
> > > > agenda in mind, they have gone completely out of their
senses.
> > Mind
> > > you
> > > > we are not interested in Hasina and Khaleda but we want to
> > survive.
> > > > Please for Heaven sake; concentrate on the welfare of the
common
> > man,
> > > > though we underatand you are accountable to none.
> > > >
> > > > Regards to all
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Saeed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" ezajur.rahman@
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > No brother - almost all labour problems have built up over
the
> > last
> > > > > two decades. Perhaps, you have forgotten that during the
BNP
> > > > > government a thousand labourers attacked and ransacked the
> > > Bangladesh
> > > > > Embassy in Kuwait. Another great record for our proud
nation.
> > Rest
> > > > > assured that the same attack would have happened under an
AL
> > > > > government.
> > > > >
> > > > > This CTG will not last much longer. The questions are not
about
> > the
> > > > > temporary struggles of the CTG. The real questions are :
> > > > >
> > > > > How do you feel about Hasina and Khaleda as PM again?
> > > > >
> > > > > What price is worth paying to be rid of Haina and Khaleda?
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes
> > > > >
> > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > Kuwait
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Sajjad Hossain
shossain456@
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But most of the labour problem started since the CTG took
> > power
> > > > > last year. The Malaysia debacle, the recent Saudi
nightmares all
> > > > > happened in the last one year. Why you blame AL and BNP.
The
> > CTG is
> > > > > seeing the GHOSTs of these two large parties. I tell you
that
> > is not
> > > > > good symptom. It is time to visit a Psychiatric.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ezajur ezajur.rahman@ wrote: Dear Robin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You accurately describe the situation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The people who betray our labourers first and then
exploit our
> > > > > > labourers the most are actually ......?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Other Bangladeshis.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is as nasty, ugly, cruel and absurd a situation as
you can
> > > > > imagine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Embassies are invariably weak but they are neither
the
> > cause
> > > > > nor
> > > > > > the solution of the problem. Can you guess where the
root of
> > the
> > > > > > problem lies?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The root of the problem lies with politicians who
PROMOTE AND
> > > > > PROTECT
> > > > > > this situation. You have to mix with the people involved
to
> > see
> > > the
> > > > > > truth in all its ulginess.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For every one labourer who commits suicide or dies from
> > depression
> > > > > or
> > > > > > hypertension (yes it happens more than you might guess)a
nail
> > > > > should
> > > > > > be buried in the coffins of our most renowned
politicians.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Watch the AL and BNP writers.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They know that AL and BNP MPs work hand in hand with
> > recruiting
> > > > > > agents - cheating and ruining our labourers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But they will never talk about it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why? Because they are clueless cowards who think that
> > attacking
> > > the
> > > > > > CTG absolves them of their own responsibility and their
own
> > guilt.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have a grown man fall at your feet crying hysterically
> > because he
> > > > > was
> > > > > > cheated by a man power agent who was protected by an
MP...
> > Then,
> > > by
> > > > > > God, you will feel some of the hatred that I feel.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe hatred solves nothing. But the lack of hatred gives
> > these
> > > > > > people all the scope they need to do what they want.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The departure, or demise, of Hasina and Khaleda will
expose
> > AL and
> > > > > > BNP for what they really are... Third rate parties lead
by
> > third
> > > > > rate
> > > > > > people - in a third rate country.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What offends us most? My last sentence? Or the weeping
grown
> > man
> > > > > > cheated by his democratically elected MP?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best wishes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > > Kuwait
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Tuesday, 25th March 2008  

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Date: Tuesday, 25th March 2008

Agenda: In support of Sector Commanders program in Dhaka & it's just announced 16 point demands. Detail later.

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Calls for Bangladesh war trials

By Mark Dummett
BBC News, Dhaka



Veterans of Bangladesh 's 1971 war of independence have called for their countrymen who collaborated with Pakistan to face war crimes trials.

Hundreds of the veterans who took part in the victorious war against Pakistan travelled to Dhaka to issue the call at the request of their former commanders.

They say Bangladeshis who collaborated with Pakistani forces caused the deaths of thousands of civilians.

Many of those they want tried are politically influential figures.

They include the leaders of Bangladesh 's largest party, Jamaat-e-Islami - which at the time opposed the break-up of Pakistan .

To this day, the leaders of the party deny a war of liberation took place, rather calling it a civil war between Pakistanis.

They also deny involvement in a youth militia which carried out many of the killings.

One of the reasons why the veterans have launched their campaign now is that elections are being organised for December.

They want Jamaat-e-Islami, which did well in the last elections, to be banned from taking part.

Lingering anger

The veterans won their country's freedom from Pakistan with the support of India in only a matter of months and are the nation's heroes.

But many wounds from the conflict are yet to heal.

Bangladesh's official records say some three million people, mostly civilians, lost their lives.

Many of the perpetrators were not Pakistani soldiers but their supporters among the local population. None have ever been tried.

Dr Mustafisa Rahman, a medic in the Bangladeshi forces, said of the collaborators: "They raped our mothers, they killed our brothers and sisters, they burned our houses, they have done everything."

Earlier governments have ignored the calls for trials, saying they would damage national unity.

 

 
 
 
 
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[mukto-mona] After imposition 5 years' US 'Democracy' over Iraq - what an Iraqi woman feels

 
The self-claimed umpire for  the internatinal 'Human Rights game'  - the USA is the greatest violator of Human rights, woman rights, child rights(not what ?). After five years of Iraq occupation/devastation, the Bush and Co.are still there and being  tolerated as if they did nothing wrong to Iraqis, rather 'established democracy'. Please see what an Iraqi  feels about 'Democracy'. 
 
The people of all countries including common Americans should resist Pentagon bosses from poking their nose into affairs of other countries.
 
I am giving the link to Layla' blogs for your reference. http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.com/2008/03/under-former-dictatorship.html
 
Regards,

Dhirendra
 
 

Layla Anwar (Iraqi Woman dares to express her feelings)

(Who am I ? The eternal Question . Have not figured it out fully yet . All you need to know about me is that I am a Middle Easterner, an Arab Woman - into my 40's and old enough to know better. I have no homeland per se. I live in Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan, Syria and Egypt simultaneously ... All the rest is icing on the cake. /Copyrights reserved, 2006-2008)

I will let you in on a secret that other Iraqi bloggers consumed with false pride and desperately attempting to save face will not dare admit to you publicly...

Namely, that they all secretly long for the Iraq under the former "Dictatorship"...

Five years on, and you can read it in between their lines...a slip of the tongue here, an allusion there, a sigh stiffled and quickly hid somewhere...

But as you have grown accustomed to by now, I shall not make you read between the lines, I will give it to you out loud, and you need not go searching for hidden meanings with me...

But before I do so, I need to tell you something else but still very related.

For the past 24 hours, I have been doing nothing but perusing websites, news articles, videos, blogs...reading on the "5th Anniversary" of the Invasion and Occupation of my country.

I have to admit that almost all of the pieces I read, ranged from very bad to despicably grotesque...

The Independent with its Cockburn's gross failures, with its reminiscing Fisk, nostalgic for the days of Churchill, to Pepe Escobar who has embraced Iranian Shi'ism, to the nauseating piece by Jim Lobe from antiwar.com, to Al Jazeerah English website with its lukewarm to frankly disgusting analysis and commentary...
I perused them all...

They were all singing the same refrain that I have gotten so used to by now -- under the former "Dictatorship" and the adjectives would follow – repressive, tyrannical, oppressive...etcetera....

Of course the intelligent reader, and as always, am assuming that you are, will understand that when a writer juxtaposes verbal images of the before and after in one and the same paragraph, what he/she is telling you is -- it was bad then and it is bad now...maybe a little worse but still, it was bad then...

The reader is left with an unconscious message -- maybe, if the occupation was not so botched up, it would have turned to be a good thing after all--It did get rid of the former "Dictatorship."

But the enlightened reader will understand that the violence that Iraq has experienced starting with the American occupation, and degenerating into a "civil war" was nothing but a spit of fire in your collective faces...

It is really telling you, over and over -- Your democracy has failed and the former "Dictatorship" has won. Think about it deeply before you blurt out more of your nonsense and lies...

A friend whose opinions I greatly respect, told me "There are good dictatorships and bad democracies..." And Iraq was a good dictatorship and yours is a very bad democracy.

For starters, under the former dictatorship, we were alive, now we are all dead corpses...

Under the former dictatorship and during and in spite of 13 years of the most inhumane sanctions ;

We had no ghettoes, we did not know each other's sect, we intermarried, we had mixed neighborhoods, we could go out without being riddled with bullets from an Iranian militia or from one of your army patrols, we had no checkpoints, we had no car bombs, we had no Al-Qaeda psychopaths, we had no sectarian Shia sadists in turbans and black uniforms, we did not have to dress like a ninja, we were not raped, we did not have acid thrown into our faces, we were free to worship in a church or a mosque, we had jobs, we had homes, our children were fed, our hospitals functioned despite your tyrannical sanctions (today 90% of Iraqi hospitals are in dire need of qualified staff) our roads were not destroyed, our bridges assured safe passages, we did not have women and children begging and sleeping in the streets, we did not have refugees (4.5 million) stranded at borders or rotting away in tents, we had electricity and water and we did not find worms floating in it either...

Our rivers were not dumping grounds for cadavers and our parks were not turned into cemeteries. Our children were not sold or trafficked. Our academics, (over 450 killed) doctors (500 murdered) and professionals (in the hundreds) did not flee or get killed. Our universities still managed to produce graduates and our schools were not attacked by mortar bombs. Our women could drive, work, marry and divorce as they pleased...

Under the former dictatorship our trees were still producing fruits and not razed to the ground. Under the former dictatorship music was still allowed, so were films. Under the former dictatorship we had no drugs,no poppy fields, no drug addicts and no drugs peddlers and traffickers. Under the former dictatorship we had no pedophile rings, no professional killers, no professional drillers and no professional rapists...

Under the former dictatorship, we had no over 100'000 detainees with no trial, no children sodomized in prisons and no women gang raped in exchange for freeing their loved ones...

Under the former dictatorship, our artists, poets, writers, singers, journalists (233 killed since 2003) were not abducted, kidnapped or assassinated...

Under the former dictatorship, we were not rejects. We still earned the respect of others. Under the former dictatorship we had no mass corruption, no public thieves, no fraud...

Under the former dictatorship we had no Israelis, no Iranians and no Americans...And sell out, treacherous Iraqis with foreign political agendas, were silenced, for the greater good.

Under the former dictatorship we had no 2 million widows, 5 million orphans, 4 million wounded, an X number of disappeared, we had no mass graves of a million plus murdered by Democracy.

Under the former dictatorship we were not considered the second most corrupt country in the world and the FIRST most dangerous country on earth...

Under the former dictatorship, we had a country called Iraq. Under the former dictatorship we had a Life. Under the former dictatorship, we were Free.

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Sign the Petition : Release the Arrested University Teachers Immediately : An Appeal to the Caretaker Government of Bangladesh

http://www.mukto-mona.com/human_rights/university_teachers_arrest.htm

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Daily Star publishes an interview with Mukto-Mona
http://www.mukto-mona.com/news/daily_star/daily_star_MM.pdf

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MM site is blocked in Islamic countries such as UAE. Members of those theocratic states, kindly use any proxy (such as http://proxy.org/) to access mukto-mona.

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Mukto-Mona Celebrates 5th Anniversary
http://www.mukto-mona.com/Special_Event_/5_yrs_anniv/index.htm

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Mukto-Mona Celebrates Earth Day:
http://www.mukto-mona.com/Special_Event_/Earth_day2006/index.htm

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Kansat Uprising : A Special Page from Mukto-Mona 
http://www.mukto-mona.com/human_rights/kansat2006/members/


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MM Project : Grand assembly of local freedom fighters at Raumari
http://www.mukto-mona.com/project/Roumari/freedom_fighters_union300306.htm

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German Bangla Radio Interviews Mukto-Mona Members:
http://www.mukto-mona.com/Special_Event_/Darwin_day/german_radio/


Mukto-Mona Celebrates Darwin Day:

http://www.mukto-mona.com/Special_Event_/Darwin_day/index.htm

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Some FAQ's about Mukto-Mona:

http://www.mukto-mona.com/new_site/mukto-mona/faq_mm.htm

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