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এক সাপ বাচ্চাকাচ্চা নিয়ে এক গর্তে বাস করতো। একদিন ঝড়-বৃষ্টিতে সাপটি দেখলো অদূরে এক সজারু আধমরা অবস্থায় পড়ে আছে। সাপটির দয়া হলো, সজারুকে নিজের গর্তে নিয়ে এলো। বললো: আপাতত: তুমি আমাদের সাথে থাকো, সুস্থ হলে চলে যেও? এরপর কিছুদিন চলে গেলো, আবহাওয়া ভালো হয়ে গেছে, সজারু সম্পূর্ণ সুস্থ হয়ে উঠেছে। কিন্তু সজারু যাচ্ছেনা। সাপ তার ছোট্ট গর্তে সজারুকে নিয়ে থাকতে লাগলো। সজারুর গায়ের কাঁটায় সাপের বাচ্চাদের অবস্থা কাহিল। অবস্থা চরমে উঠলে সাপ একদিন সজারুকে বললো: ভাই সজারু, তোমার গায়ের কাঁটার খোঁচায় আমার বাচ্চাদের খুব অসুবিধা হচ্ছে। ভাই, তুমি এবার আমাদের বাসা থেকে যাও। সজারু একটু রেগেই বললো: 'আমার তো কোন অসুবিধা হচ্ছেনা; যাদের অসুবিধা হচ্ছে তারা চলে যাকনা কেন?' মহামতি টলস্টয়ের গল্পটি কি রোহিঙ্গাদের প্রসঙ্গে একেবারেই অপ্রাসংগিক?On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:ALMIGHTY doesnot manage anybody's bad eating habit, nor do they consider that only option for health; because they will seek help of medicine. I have seen people claiming there is no adverse consequences of large abount or korbani meat, untill they have close call with blockage.
It is only smart to take preventing measure, be it health or global warming or poulation issue, than indirectly laying blame on Almighty, when it doesn't go their way.
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Date: Sunday, September 3, 2017, 10:14 PM
Salam,
What Ranu
Bhai said is correct. Animals are part of the ecosystem
planned by not only our Creator, by FMs' Creator too! Is
she a vegi only?
Many
types of animals, not only cattle are sacrificed for
"Korbani." FMs are indulged in one-way of
thinking.
Now-a-days,
I avoid red-meat. But it does not mean that is it
unnecessary (for some people there may be some reasons).
BTW, Flora and Fauna come from the Creator. What we need is
a balanced use and maintenance of ecosystem.
FM's
loved-country India did not have (still not) Fast
Bowlers!
ZA
On Sunday, September 3, 2017 2:05 PM, RANU
CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com> wrote:
Cattle is part of the global environment and ecology.
An effort to eliminate it may generate hundreds, if not
thousands, other adverse effects on the mankind.
Besides, I am not sure how
much the oat milk can compensate for
the cow milk consumed around the world, particularly in
terms of nutrients the cow milk provides. Negative effects,
if any, of cow milk is perhaps due to the artificial
management growth for the cattle in the western
world.
From: Farida Majid
<farida_majid@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 4:08 PM
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Subject: Re: Re: গরুমুক্ত
পৃথিবীর চিন্তা -
কোরবানীর
ঈদের প্রাক্কালে
গরুমুক্ত পৃথিবীর
চিন্তা --
<< The rearing of livestock
and meat consumption accounts for 14.5% of global greenhouse
gas (GHG) emissions. Alongside carbon emissions from
deforestation (for pasture or crops to
feed animals), the livestock sector is also the single
biggest human-related source of methane (from cattle) and
nitrous oxide emissions (from fertiliser and manure), two
particularly potent greenhouse gases.
On current trends, by 2050 we
will be growing more crops to feed directly to animals than
ourselves. Even small shifts to feeding crops to humans
instead of livestock would lead to significant increases in
food availability. >>
'Wow,
no cow': the Swedish farmer using oats to make
milk
Swedish drinks company helps
farmer shift away from livestock farming and cut climate
impact with his own oat milk brand
THEGUARDIAN.COM
https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/aug/ 26/wow-no-cow-swedish-farmer- oats-milk-oatly?CMP=share_btn_ fb
'Wow, no cow': the
Swedish farmer
using oats to make milk
www.theguardian.com
Swedish drinks company helps farmer shift away from
livestock farming and cut climate impact with his own oat
milk brand
From: DeEldar
<shahdeeldar@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Re:
If you think all Muslims in the third world
countries are having a steady amount of meat every week or
month, you are totally mistaken. Slaughtering millions of
animals in a single day and consume their meat in a week is
a very poor strategic
thinking. Do you really please a God with chemically
induced fatty animal? That was my point but then again, how
do we convince people who rather eat one good meal in a day
and then go on begging rest of the year.
On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at
10:18 AM, qamruddin chowdhury
<qamruddinc@yahoo.com>
wrote:
"But again, the old habits
would be very difficult to change unless and until the true
reality sets in. "
Same applies to you also brother.
On Sunday, September 3, 2017, 10:08:10 AM EDT, DeEldar
<shahdeeldar@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thank you. Eid Mubarak to you, all despite
our differences in many issues. My gentle Iranian Shia
friend does not sacrifice any animal but consume a good
amount of meat during the whole year rather than consuming a
whole animal in a week or two
weeks' time. I call it prudence, intelligent and very
sensible. But again, the old habits would be very difficult
to change unless and until the true reality sets in.
On
Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Khoniker Othithee
<khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
wrote:
EID MUBBARAK!
Not their meat, nor their blood, reaches Allah, it is your
piety and concern for all human that reaches All Mighty
- Sura Al-Hajj Verse 37
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--On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 12:58 PM, DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:I do not think average people understand how much energy and resource are being put into making a huge animal. If these were wild animals falling from the sky and free to collect and slaughter for consumption, that would have been wonderful. Feast for a and starve for months? Did prophets really introduce this odd ritual? Did Arabs sacrifice any cow to please God?On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:কোরবানীর ঈদের প্রাক্কালে গরুমুক্ত পৃথিবীর চিন্তা --<< The rearing of livestock and meat consumption accounts for 14.5% of global greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions. Alongside carbon emissions from deforestation (for pasture or crops to feed animals), the livestock sector is also the single biggest human-related source of methane (from cattle) and nitrous oxide emissions (from fertiliser and manure), two particularly potent greenhouse gases.On current trends, by 2050 we will be growing more crops to feed directly to animals than ourselves. Even small shifts to feeding crops to humans instead of livestock would lead to significant increases in food availability. >>Swedish drinks company helps farmer shift away from livestock farming and cut climate impact with his own oat milk brandhttps://www.theguardian.com/su stainable-business/2017/aug/26 /wow-no-cow-swedish-farmer-oat s-milk-oatly?CMP=share_btn_fb
Swedish drinks company helps farmer shift away from livestock farming and cut climate impact with his own oat milk brand
From: DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 8:32 PM
To: qamruddin chowdhury
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Subject: Re: Re:If you think all Muslims in the third world countries are having a steady amount of meat every week or month, you are totally mistaken. Slaughtering millions of animals in a single day and consume their meat in a week is a very poor strategic thinking. Do you really please a God with chemically induced fatty animal? That was my point but then again, how do we convince people who rather eat one good meal in a day and then go on begging rest of the year.
On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 10:18 AM, qamruddin chowdhury <qamruddinc@yahoo.com> wrote:
"But again, the old habits would be very difficult to change unless and until the true reality sets in. "
Same applies to you also brother.
On Sunday, September 3, 2017, 10:08:10 AM EDT, DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you. Eid Mubarak to you, all despite our differences in many issues. My gentle Iranian Shia friend does not sacrifice any animal but consume a good amount of meat during the whole year rather than consuming a whole animal in a week or two weeks' time. I call it prudence, intelligent and very sensible. But again, the old habits would be very difficult to change unless and until the true reality sets in.
On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:
EID MUBBARAK!
Not their meat, nor their blood, reaches Allah, it is your piety and concern for all human that reaches All Mighty
- Sura Al-Hajj Verse 37
Sitanggshu Guha
Simple minded analysis on complicated issues are always wrong.
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Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} Re: Re: গরুমুক্ত পৃথিবীর চিন্তা -
To: "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
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Date: Monday, September 4, 2017, 5:01 PM
এক সাপ
বাচ্চাকাচ্চা নিয়ে এক
গর্তে বাস করতো। একদিন
ঝড়-বৃষ্টিতে
সাপটি দেখলো অদূরে এক
সজারু আধমরা অবস্থায়
পড়ে আছে। সাপটির দয়া
হলো, সজারুকে
নিজের গর্তে নিয়ে এলো।
বললো: আপাতত: তুমি
আমাদের সাথে থাকো,
সুস্থ হলে চলে যেও?
এরপর কিছুদিন চলে গেলো,
আবহাওয়া ভালো হয়ে গেছে,
সজারু সম্পূর্ণ সুস্থ
হয়ে উঠেছে।
কিন্তু সজারু
যাচ্ছেনা। সাপ তার
ছোট্ট গর্তে সজারুকে
নিয়ে থাকতে লাগলো।
সজারুর
গায়ের কাঁটায় সাপের
বাচ্চাদের অবস্থা
কাহিল। অবস্থা চরমে
উঠলে সাপ একদিন সজারুকে
বললো: ভাই সজারু, তোমার
গায়ের কাঁটার
খোঁচায় আমার বাচ্চাদের
খুব অসুবিধা
হচ্ছে। ভাই, তুমি এবার
আমাদের বাসা থেকে যাও।
সজারু একটু রেগেই বললো:
'আমার তো কোন
অসুবিধা হচ্ছেনা; যাদের
অসুবিধা হচ্ছে তারা চলে
যাকনা কেন?' মহামতি
টলস্টয়ের
গল্পটি কি রোহিঙ্গাদের
প্রসঙ্গে একেবারেই
অপ্রাসংগিক?
On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:52
PM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
wrote:
ALMIGHTY
doesnot manage anybody's bad eating habit, nor do they
consider that only option for health; because they will seek
help of medicine. I have seen people claiming there is
no adverse consequences of large abount or korbani meat,
untill they have close call with blockage.
It is only smart to take preventing measure, be it health or
global warming or poulation issue, than indirectly laying
blame on Almighty, when it doesn't go their way.
------------------------------ --------------
On Sun, 9/3/17, 'zainul abedin' via PFC-Friends
<pfc-friends@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Subject: {PFC-Friends} Re: Re: গরুমুক্ত
পৃথিবীর চিন্তা -
To: "RANU CHOWDHURY" <ranu51@hotmail.com>,
"Farida Majid" <farida_majid@hotmail.com>,
"DeEldar" <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>,
"qamruddin chowdhury" <qamruddinc@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Razzak Syed" <amsmel@aol.com>,
"PFC-Friends" <pfc-friends+noreply@
googlegroups.com>, "rashedanam1971@gmail.com"
<rashedanam1971@gmail.com>,
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Date: Sunday, September 3, 2017, 10:14 PM
Salam,
What Ranu
Bhai said is correct. Animals are part of the ecosystem
planned by not only our Creator, by FMs' Creator too!
Is
she a vegi only?
Many
types of animals, not only cattle are sacrificed for
"Korbani." FMs are indulged in one-way of
thinking.
Now-a-days,
I avoid red-meat. But it does not mean that is it
unnecessary (for some people there may be some
reasons).
BTW, Flora and Fauna come from the Creator. What we need
is
a balanced use and maintenance of ecosystem.
FM's
loved-country India did not have (still not) Fast
Bowlers!
ZA
On Sunday, September 3, 2017 2:05 PM, RANU
CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Cattle is part of the global environment and ecology.
An effort to eliminate it may generate hundreds, if not
thousands, other adverse effects on the mankind.
Besides, I am not sure how
much the oat milk can compensate for
the cow milk consumed around the world, particularly
in
terms of nutrients the cow milk provides. Negative
effects,
if any, of cow milk is perhaps due to the artificial
management growth for the cattle in the western
world.
From: Farida Majid
<farida_majid@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 4:08 PM
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Subject: Re: Re: গরুমুক্ত
পৃথিবীর চিন্তা -
কোরবানীর
ঈদের প্রাক্কালে
গরুমুক্ত পৃথিবীর
চিন্তা --
<< The rearing of livestock
and meat consumption accounts for 14.5% of global
greenhouse
gas (GHG) emissions. Alongside carbon emissions from
deforestation (for pasture or crops to
feed animals), the livestock sector is also the single
biggest human-related source of methane (from cattle)
and
nitrous oxide emissions (from fertiliser and manure),
two
particularly potent greenhouse gases.
On current trends, by 2050 we
will be growing more crops to feed directly to animals
than
ourselves. Even small shifts to feeding crops to humans
instead of livestock would lead to significant increases
in
food availability. >>
'Wow,
no cow': the Swedish farmer using oats to make
milk
Swedish drinks company helps
farmer shift away from livestock farming and cut
climate
impact with his own oat milk brand
THEGUARDIAN.COM
https://www.theguardian.com/
sustainable-business/2017/aug/ 26/wow-no-cow-swedish-farmer-
oats-milk-oatly?CMP=share_btn_ fb
'Wow, no cow': the
Swedish farmer
using oats to make milk
www.theguardian.com
Swedish drinks company helps farmer shift away from
livestock farming and cut climate impact with his own
oat
milk brand
From: DeEldar
<shahdeeldar@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2017 8:32 PM
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Subject: Re: Re:
If you think all Muslims in the third world
countries are having a steady amount of meat every week
or
month, you are totally mistaken. Slaughtering millions
of
animals in a single day and consume their meat in a week
is
a very poor strategic
thinking. Do you really please a God with chemically
induced fatty animal? That was my point but then again,
how
do we convince people who rather eat one good meal in a
day
and then go on begging rest of the year.
On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at
10:18 AM, qamruddin chowdhury
<qamruddinc@yahoo.com>
wrote:
"But again, the old habits
would be very difficult to change unless and until the
true
reality sets in. "
Same applies to you also brother.
On Sunday, September 3, 2017, 10:08:10 AM EDT, DeEldar
<shahdeeldar@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thank you. Eid Mubarak to you, all despite
our differences in many issues. My gentle Iranian Shia
friend does not sacrifice any animal but consume a good
amount of meat during the whole year rather than consuming
a
whole animal in a week or two
weeks' time. I call it prudence, intelligent and
very
sensible. But again, the old habits would be very
difficult
to change unless and until the true reality sets in.
On
Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Khoniker Othithee
<khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
wrote:
EID MUBBARAK!
Not their meat, nor their blood, reaches Allah, it is
your
piety and concern for all human that reaches All
Mighty
- Sura Al-Hajj Verse 37
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