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Re: [mukto-mona] Bangladesh Wins Freedom



I would like to hear from your learned readers as to who caused the liberation of Bangladesh? Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, Ziaur Rahman, Yahya Khan, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, USA, USSR, India,Indira Gandhi, the then West Pakistanis, Freedom Fighters of the territory now comprising Bangladesh, Bengali language, Mohajirs, Bengali Hindus, Bengali Muslims, Indian Army, Pakistani Army, Israel, CIA, KGB,  or other factors.


>>>>>>>> Not sure about Israeli role in liberation of Bangladesh. Rest of the parties contributed in freeing us from what morphed  into neo-colonial master on Bengali
population. Attacking our culture and identity. While Pakistan itself did not create any solid identity for itself.

For example Urdu is not a native language of Pakistan. But it was accepted as a common language of Pakistan (Like English is used to bind Indians today). If Pakistani leadership had a functioning brain they would have waited a little longer to get accepted. Our Brother and sisters from West Bengal already surrendered their culture, language etc to Indian union and from a nation it reduced itself to a "State" of India!!

But Pakistani leaders were too focused on glorifying their own sorry state and left the country to anarchy. History will tell us that, Bengali Muslims worked very hard ( Including our father of the nation Sheikh Mujibur Rahman) to create Pakistan. They were "Sold" to the promise of Pakistan only to be betrayed by the west Pakistani political structure( Note I do not blame people of Pakistan for this but leadership!). They were not the only one. Many communities were "Betrayed" by the non-functioning state.

I feel you have to do extensive research on connections between parties. There are evidences about communications among parties and many books were written on this topic. However one has to separate fiction from non-fictional history. Some of our "Authentic" narratives are not commonly known but should be preserved to stay true to our future generations. 


-----Original Message-----
From: A.B.M. Shamsud Doulah <doulah@doulah.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2011 4:19 am
Subject: [mukto-mona] Bangladesh Wins Freedom

 
BANGLADESH WINS FREEDOM
 
 
I have been studying the historic emergence of Bangladesh as a sovereign country since 1971. Considering the socio-political history of Bengal from the time of British occupation many subjects are coming up to me as the contributing factors leading to the liberation of Bangladesh.
 
I would like to hear from your learned readers as to who caused the liberation of Bangladesh? Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, Ziaur Rahman, Yahya Khan, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, USA, USSR, India,Indira Gandhi, the then West Pakistanis, Freedom Fighters of the territory now comprising Bangladesh, Bengali language, Mohajirs, Bengali Hindus, Bengali Muslims, Indian Army, Pakistani Army, Israel, CIA, KGB,  or other factors.
 
Next comes the question: Was there any explicit or implicit understanding between the above parties?
 
Your learned feedback will greatly help me in creating a good monograph which may help the future generations the truths about the appearance and reality.
 
A.B.M. Shamsud Doulah
Post Box 351
Dhaka-1000
BANGLADESH


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Re: [mukto-mona] FW: Steve Jobs an American Visionary with Arab Roots



Another point that, given the right "Creative" environment, Arabs can produce genius like Steve Jobs. Another case is with F R Khan (Who dealt with structural design of Willis Tower--tallest American building). After being rejected by the bureaucracy of the then east Pakistan, he settled in the USA and became a leading engineer of last century.

Hope these stories will "Inspire" us to create right environment in Bangladesh, so the brightest minds need not to leave our country to make their marks in history. Check out the following story.....


Bangladeshi designs largest US civil work project

 


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Subject: [mukto-mona] FW: Steve Jobs an American Visionary with Arab Roots

 

         It is a touching story!  I feel sad that Steve's biological father did not get to meet him in person, but still, Steve's loyalty towards his adoptive parents is to be admired.

Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:01:33 +0530
Subject: Steve Jobs an American Visionary with Arab Roots
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[mukto-mona] FW: Obviously, our leaders think we are idiots--commentary is partly biased



 

 

 

 

Please see the Star commentarybelow.I do not find anything wrong in the statement of Begum Khaleda  Zia.Jamaat senior leaders are not against independence after Bangladesh was created. They are working for progress of Bangladesh after its independence.

 It is also true that there is no real charge against them of any crime except hearsay. There is nothing wrong if BNP seeks Jamaat support, it being a strong legal political party of the country. Awami League did the same thing in earlier periods.

Shah Abdul Hannan

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=207392

 

Obviously, our leaders think we are idiots

Political rhetoric becoming dangerously irresponsible

Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina said that the Padma Bridge corruption is due to the activities of the last BNP government, and not due to hers. What a revelation! As if our people know nothing about the World Bank's findings. As if the World Bank has not already made its position public. As if we in the media have not printed the contents of the World Bank's letter to our government. As if her ministers have not already commented on the matter over the past few weeks. As if the Asian Development Bank, and the Japan International Cooperation Agency (Jica) have not already made public their positions.

Not to be left behind, our opposition leader said on the same day that Jamaat Ameer Motiur Rahman Nizami, Moulana Sayedee, and Jamaat Secretary General Ali Ahsan Mohammad Mojaheed did not work against our Liberation War in 1971, and that they all had been arrested under false charges. What a revelation! As if all the freedom fighters who fought in 1971 are dead. As if those who are eyewitnesses to their activities during '71 have been harbouring an illusion for the last 40 years. As if newspaper, radio and TV reports of the period, which have been preserved in the archives of international media houses, are all lies. As if those of us who lived in occupied East Pakistan and saw the daily TV reportage of Pakistan Television in which these people appeared frequently were all fictitious. As if people's demand for a trial of war criminals is meaningless and delusional. As if Al Badr, Al Shams and other such killing machines created by the Pakistanis did not exist. As if our intellectuals were not killed by the Bangladeshi collaborators of Pakistani army.

How tragic that our two foremost leaders -- and both two-time prime ministers -- can so disregard history, can be so cavalier about facts and so fundamentally irresponsible about their public statements.

If our PM has genuine evidence linking the present Padma Bridge scandal to the former BNP regime, she should make it public. Now that she has publicly said so, providing supporting evidence has become obligatory. If she fails then her credibility will greatly suffer, and all her other claims will become justly suspect. The government press note issued yesterday does not make any mention of former BNP government's corruption in the Padma Bridge scandal.

Khaleda Zia's recent statements have increasingly revealed a desperation on her part to embrace the Jamaat. Obviously it is for political gain. But does political gain have to be earned by destroying what is unquestionably our greatest achievement -- our freedom struggle? We can try to understand her desperation. But what we cannot understand is her eagerness to bring into question the facts of our Liberation War just to gain the Jamaat's favour. Why does she have to equate the War Crimes Trial with the need to try the Rakkhi Bahini? We have argued earlier that equating war crimes with crimes committed afterwards amounts to trivialising our freedom struggle, and diminishing the glory of the sacrifice of our martyrs.

We will all accept that the present ruling party has made many mistakes (abolishing the caretaker government system being a major one), and that many of their leaders are now indulging in corruption and anti-people activities. But to call them the real "anti-liberation force" is nothing but to make a mockery of our Liberation War itself. It is nothing but an attempt to delegitimize the values of our freedom struggle. Why again this tendency to compare the AL's present day failings with its role in 1971? There are many examples of political parties that played a crucial role in a country's freedom struggle but later became corrupt and anti-national (the Muslim League being a good example). But their historic role was never questioned.

So when the BNP chief says that "Awami League calls Jamaat anti-liberation, but it is AL which is the real anti-liberation force", she is turning history on its head and exonerating the Jamaat for opposing the birth of Bangladesh and collaborating with the Pakistani army in killing and destroying those who were fighting for our independence.

Why do our leaders feel that they can say just about anything they like and we, the people, will believe them? Why do they say things that are not factual? Why do they twist events in ways that are totally false? Why do they never admit that they can make a mistake? Why is it always that the other side is in the wrong? Why cannot they ever see anything positive in their opponents? Why cannot they accept criticism with grace?

It is because our leaders think that we, the people, are all idiots. We cannot judge for ourselves, so whatever they say they expect us to believe. Our leaders think that we have no memory, so they say today the very opposite of what they stood for yesterday, and still expect us to follow them.

Maybe they are right -- maybe we are idiots. Otherwise how can we flock to their meetings in the hundreds of thousands just to have them insult our intelligence, which they do every single time?

When did we last hear a speech that we would recommend to our children to study and learn from, a speech that we would like to find in the history books?

 



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[mukto-mona] FW: Obviously, our leaders think we are idiots--commentary is partly biased



 

 

 

 

Please see the Star commentarybelow.I do not find anything wrong in the statement of Begum Khaleda  Zia.Jamaat senior leaders are not against independence after Bangladesh was created. They are working for progress of Bangladesh after its independence.

 It is also true that there is no real charge against them of any crime except hearsay. There is nothing wrong if BNP seeks Jamaat support, it being a strong legal political party of the country. Awami League did the same thing in earlier periods.

Shah Abdul Hannan

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=207392

 

Obviously, our leaders think we are idiots

Political rhetoric becoming dangerously irresponsible

Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina said that the Padma Bridge corruption is due to the activities of the last BNP government, and not due to hers. What a revelation! As if our people know nothing about the World Bank's findings. As if the World Bank has not already made its position public. As if we in the media have not printed the contents of the World Bank's letter to our government. As if her ministers have not already commented on the matter over the past few weeks. As if the Asian Development Bank, and the Japan International Cooperation Agency (Jica) have not already made public their positions.

Not to be left behind, our opposition leader said on the same day that Jamaat Ameer Motiur Rahman Nizami, Moulana Sayedee, and Jamaat Secretary General Ali Ahsan Mohammad Mojaheed did not work against our Liberation War in 1971, and that they all had been arrested under false charges. What a revelation! As if all the freedom fighters who fought in 1971 are dead. As if those who are eyewitnesses to their activities during '71 have been harbouring an illusion for the last 40 years. As if newspaper, radio and TV reports of the period, which have been preserved in the archives of international media houses, are all lies. As if those of us who lived in occupied East Pakistan and saw the daily TV reportage of Pakistan Television in which these people appeared frequently were all fictitious. As if people's demand for a trial of war criminals is meaningless and delusional. As if Al Badr, Al Shams and other such killing machines created by the Pakistanis did not exist. As if our intellectuals were not killed by the Bangladeshi collaborators of Pakistani army.

How tragic that our two foremost leaders -- and both two-time prime ministers -- can so disregard history, can be so cavalier about facts and so fundamentally irresponsible about their public statements.

If our PM has genuine evidence linking the present Padma Bridge scandal to the former BNP regime, she should make it public. Now that she has publicly said so, providing supporting evidence has become obligatory. If she fails then her credibility will greatly suffer, and all her other claims will become justly suspect. The government press note issued yesterday does not make any mention of former BNP government's corruption in the Padma Bridge scandal.

Khaleda Zia's recent statements have increasingly revealed a desperation on her part to embrace the Jamaat. Obviously it is for political gain. But does political gain have to be earned by destroying what is unquestionably our greatest achievement -- our freedom struggle? We can try to understand her desperation. But what we cannot understand is her eagerness to bring into question the facts of our Liberation War just to gain the Jamaat's favour. Why does she have to equate the War Crimes Trial with the need to try the Rakkhi Bahini? We have argued earlier that equating war crimes with crimes committed afterwards amounts to trivialising our freedom struggle, and diminishing the glory of the sacrifice of our martyrs.

We will all accept that the present ruling party has made many mistakes (abolishing the caretaker government system being a major one), and that many of their leaders are now indulging in corruption and anti-people activities. But to call them the real "anti-liberation force" is nothing but to make a mockery of our Liberation War itself. It is nothing but an attempt to delegitimize the values of our freedom struggle. Why again this tendency to compare the AL's present day failings with its role in 1971? There are many examples of political parties that played a crucial role in a country's freedom struggle but later became corrupt and anti-national (the Muslim League being a good example). But their historic role was never questioned.

So when the BNP chief says that "Awami League calls Jamaat anti-liberation, but it is AL which is the real anti-liberation force", she is turning history on its head and exonerating the Jamaat for opposing the birth of Bangladesh and collaborating with the Pakistani army in killing and destroying those who were fighting for our independence.

Why do our leaders feel that they can say just about anything they like and we, the people, will believe them? Why do they say things that are not factual? Why do they twist events in ways that are totally false? Why do they never admit that they can make a mistake? Why is it always that the other side is in the wrong? Why cannot they ever see anything positive in their opponents? Why cannot they accept criticism with grace?

It is because our leaders think that we, the people, are all idiots. We cannot judge for ourselves, so whatever they say they expect us to believe. Our leaders think that we have no memory, so they say today the very opposite of what they stood for yesterday, and still expect us to follow them.

Maybe they are right -- maybe we are idiots. Otherwise how can we flock to their meetings in the hundreds of thousands just to have them insult our intelligence, which they do every single time?

When did we last hear a speech that we would recommend to our children to study and learn from, a speech that we would like to find in the history books?

 



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Re: [mukto-mona] FW: Steve Jobs an American Visionary with Arab Roots



He survived on free meals from ISKCON, became Buddhist during one of his trips to India, and never allowed his father to contact with him.  Moreover, many Syrians, in spite of being Moslems, are Greek in ethnicity.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:
 


         It is a touching story!  I feel sad that Steve's biological father did not get to meet him in person, but still, Steve's loyalty towards his adoptive parents is to be admired.

Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:01:33 +0530
Subject: Steve Jobs an American Visionary with Arab Roots
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[mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [chottala.com] Fw: Saudi Prince should be caned in the open st reet of Spain.




Any muslim opposes Shariah rule will be punished by Allah Rabbul Alamin, make no doubt about it. Be careful about criticising Shariah rule. Any Muslim  against Shariah rule  has declared war on Allah. If you donot support Shariah keep silent to escape Allah's punishment.
 
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Neyamath ullah Sikdar <neyam12345@yahoo.com>
To: "chottala@yahoogroups.com" <chottala@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Fw: [chottala.com] Fw: Saudi Prince should be caned in the open street of Spain.
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 19:09:52 -0700 (PDT)

 

 

Dear All,

I want to say that,
Islamic Law is not a Barbaric Law. But its very difficult for us to cope up with this LAW. If we follow the ISLAMIC~RULE's, then we can reduce the CRIME. Then why we feel so guilty, When we see The BARBARIC BE~HEADED VIDEO  OF OUR BANGLADESHI?? As a people of  21st century, we cant tolerate this RULES.

Md. Neyamath Ullah
----- Forwarded Message -----
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To: "chottala@yahoogroups.com" <chottala@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Fw: Saudi Prince should be caned in the open street of Spain.

 
Dear all,

I also support that if Saudi Prince proved guilty, he should be punished. But Saying Barbaric Law did Dr. Siraj Uddowlah meant the Islamic Law is a Barbaric Law ? I strongly oppose that. I believe that Islamic Law is a natural Law, full of Justice. Upon strict implementation of Islamic Shariah Law we can reduce crime.

 
Md. Mostafa

From: siraj uddowllah <siraj_58@hotmail.com>
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:10 PM
Subject: RE: [chottala.com] Fw: Saudi Prince should be caned in the open street of Spain.

 
Mr. Mohiuddin Anwar,
 
Do you think that Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud is innocent and you are trying to tell something with your silent advocacy in favour of him. During my 15 years of service as Medical Practitioner in the Ministry of Health, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia I had an opportunity to go to some of the Prince's house and saw as an eye witness how lavishly they used to drink alcohol in their house. Boxes and cartoons full of foreign made costly wine Johny Walker Whisky I have seen in their house. They can drink as much they want in their house though drinking of alcohol is strictly prohibited in Saudi Arabia whether inside or outside. But ordinary Saudis if they drink a little bit, the police used to catch them by chasing and punishing them in front of the mosque after Juma prayer by flogging 79 lashes. Why two types of law are prevailing in the same country. About Prince Walid what happened in the Spanish Mediterranean in August 2008 the case was finished by giving plenty of money at that time but later on when that Spanish model girl again complained against that Prince the case revived. I know if that rape case is proved to be true also, the case will be finished by plenty of money. Law is only for the poor people but not for the rich Saudis. It is also true if the guilt is proved the punishment will be according to Spanish law as that incident happened in Spain according to your opinion, but here the recommendation for the punishment should be in a similar way of cruel types as it is now prevailing in Saudi Arab for the poor peoples like beheading of eight Bangladeshis (about a week ago) and an Indonesian maid servant (beheaded in June 2011) because of her killing her Saudi masters for his unwanted undue maltreatment with her. This sharia law when introduced 1400 years before, at that time this Saudi Arab was passing a Ayam-e-Jaheliat era and our all Prophets (PBU them) came to this part of the world because of their barbaric 'jaheliat' activities. Now in this modern age they are still continuing their old systems of Ayam-e-Jaheliat types of one sided barbaric activities in the name of sharia law.
Dr. Siraj Uddowllah.     


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From: mohiuddin@netzero.net
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:29:13 +0000
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Fw: Saudi Prince should be caned in the open street of Spain.

 

Mr. Neyamat/Dr. Shiraj Uddowlah


How did you know that Prince Walid did the wrong. Just an allegation isn't ebough to punish someone. It has to be proved .
Before that happens one should not seek punishment on the basis of allegation.
If the allegation is wrong the accuser should be v anned in open.
If the allegation is right Prince Walid should be punished according to the Spanish law.
 
 
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To: "chottala@yahoogroups.com" <chottala@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [chottala.com] Fw: Saudi Prince should be caned in the open street of Spain.
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 08:27:30 -0700 (PDT)

 
 
 
.


I also support the suggestion of Dr. Siraj Uddowllah asking for punishment of their Prince Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud, nephew of King Abdullah of Saudi Arab should be caned in the open street of Spain for his Rape Case Against a 20-year-old model in Spain on a luxury yacht in the Spanish Mediterranean in August 2008. He should be punished in the same way as their country used to do in their Kingdom of Saudi Arabia by their court of Kazi. Their country’s law should be implemented everywhere in the world they reside. Their own law should be same everywhere.  If they can give punishment to the poor third world country's citizen by beheading why not those Saudis doing similar crime outside their country should be punished in the same way. To every action there should be an equal and opposite reaction.  
Neyamat Ullah Sikder. 


Prince Alwaleed bin Talal bin.jpg


 


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[ALOCHONA] RE: CUSTODIAN OF BANGABANDHU KILLER IS DEAD !!!!!!!!!!!



History repeats itself. He (Gaddafi) got back what he did to his people (atrocities); similarly Sheikh Mujib as well. There are good works done by Gaddafi for his people, there are good works done by Sheikh Mujib as well. The latest bad actions are being remebered by people most, Kotahi bole "Jar sesh bhalo to sob bhalo". Gaddafi did not get any reward or punishment for giving Bangladeshi Coup-detat leaders asylam.
H. Shahadat suhrawardy
 

Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 08:37:12 +1100
Subject: Re: CUSTODIAN OF BANGABANDHU KILLER IS DEAD !!!!!!!!!!!
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History never fails to treat offenders. Someday or other every offender pays for his/her misdeeds. Even Hitler had to commit suicide. In Bangladesh Khaleda Zia who opted to stay in Pakitan Army dominated cantonment rather than to join her freedom fighter hubby in the liberation war is now declaring war to protecxt war criminals. People must throw her to bins.
Best
Saleque Sufi
Dictator Gaddafi gave shelter to the notorious killers of father of nation long time ago. The killers of Bangabandhu were in safe-heaven under his custody. Some of the killers got exemplary punishment. Now their custodian Gaddafi is being killed by his own uprising mass ! Its nothing but punishment for his misdeeds! Now killers Dalim and Rashid are on RUN and punishment from Allah (SWT ) is waiting for them.
 
Respectfully,
Dr. Manik

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[ALOCHONA] CUSTODIAN OF BANGABANDHU KILLER IS DEAD !!!!!!!!!!!



Dear All,
 
Dictator Gaddafi gave shelter to the notorious killers of father of nation long time ago. The killers of Bangabandhu were in safe-heaven under his custody. Some of the killers got exemplary punishment. Now their custodian Gaddafi is being killed by his own uprising mass ! Its nothing but punishment for his misdeeds! Now killers Dalim and Rashid are on RUN and punishment from Allah (SWT ) is waiting for them.
 
Respectfully,
Dr. Manik

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[ALOCHONA] A Peace Model

PERMANENT MISSION OF BANGLADESH

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No.PMBDUN/2011/PR-1 18-11-2011

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Today 18th October 2011(local time 3 pm) "people's empowerment: A Peace Model" is presented by Honourable Adviser H.E. Prof. (Dr.) Syed Modasser Ali in United Nations 2nd Committee. The meeting was chaired by Permanent Representative of Bangladesh Permanent Mission to the United Nations H. E. Dr. A. K. Abdul Momen. Draft concept note was also presented earlier. Five country took part the discussion. Countries are Argentina, Tanzania, Liberia, Egypt, and Australia. Later different Missions Chief and delegates and representative of civil society met a dinner in Bangladesh Mission. 65 countries representatives participate in dinner.

In key note statement H.E. Prof. (Dr.) Syed Modasser Ali discussed on Honourable Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina's people's empowering model for sustainable peace and development. Our Permanent Representative H. E. Dr. A. K. Abdul Momen in his speech briefed six points of the proposal. These points are (1) eradicating poverty and hunger (2) reducing inequality (3) mitigating deprivation (4) creating jobs for all including excluded people (5) accelerating human development and (6) fighting terrorism of all kinds. For sustainable peace and development H. E. Dr. A. K. Abdul Momen expects support of all member countries of United Nations.

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Re: [mukto-mona] Capital Punishment KSA-style




Again you got all fired up for nothing. Hindu ritual of "Satidaha" was a different matter. An innocent women (Most cases) had to die to satisfy this 'Custom". Saudi Arabia persecuted criminals who murdered another person.

As far as I know no 'Abrahamic" faiths practiced 'Satidaha". Not sure why you are comparing apples and oranges. They will never add up!!

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From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Oct 19, 2011 8:48 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Capital Punishment KSA-style

 
Hindus sacrificed human beings on a large scale in the name of Satidaha and other religious rituals even two hundred years ago.  Abrahamic religious practices are amply recorded in history.  Anybody defending the atrocities by KSA should be sent there to face it.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:24 AM, Dristy Pat <dristypat5@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Mr. Mohiuddin Anwar is the epitome of what's wrong with religion. All religions have people like him. Thousands of years back, Hindus and others used to do "Norobali" (human sacrifice) in presence of deities. But, Islamic religious bigots, like Mohiuddin, stand out because they want to continue this practice in this era also for social/religious justices. The way he explains how Saudi People carryout capital punishment is beyond human nature. As Mohiuddin described – Saudi parents often take their children to see these capital punishments. You cannot call these people human. Religion is to blame for such actions. After all, Saudis are following the Sharia Law, and, they believe, it came from Allah. Religious brainwashing takes away human sentiments. The degree of loss of human sentiment depends on how much brain gets washed by religious brainwashing. The Saudis are mostly religious robots, and so is Mr. Mohiuddin. He is so at ease with Saudi-style capital punishment, I think he has done some by himself also in Bangladesh at around 1971 in the name of protecting Islam.
 
Pat



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