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Tuesday, June 2, 2015

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Does hell exits?????

Many times when I discuss religion with the religious, some form of Pascal's Wager tends to come up. Frequently, the religious person will ask me where I think I will end up after I die. The implication of the question is typically that I will go to Hell to be tortured for all eternity. The religious person will then inform me that if I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior, I will not be tortured for all eternity. To me, this sounds like a terroristic threat.

When I call attention to the threatening nature of the religious person's insinuation that I will be tortured for all eternity (which is a surprisingly long time) if I don't worship their deity, the believer backs off a little bit by shifting the blame on to their deity. They often insist that they aren't threatening me, God is. They are just passively informing me about an eminent threat. But it really isn't that simple. They aren't just passively informing me about a necessary consequence to my action or in this case inaction, they are making a value judgment about that consequence.

The believer isn't just warning me about Hell, they are making a claim that I deserve to be tortured for all eternity in Hell if I don't worship their deity. It is this value judgment that I find so disturbing. To the believer, God can do no wrong and as a result the nature of the system which believers refer to as "God's Justice" is not just some random cause and effect scenario, but rather they see it as the best and most perfect system. You would be hard pressed to find a Christian who is willing to stand up to their deity and denounce God's divine justice as barbaric and immoral.

By contrast, any warning I give about the consequence of an on coming storm would be devoid of value judgments. If I were to warn someone about in imminent storm, it would be immoral to root for the storm and yet this is precisely what believers do when it comes to the eternal torture of Hell.

A closter analogy would be a bank robber who puts a gun to the head of the teller while his accomplice "warns" that if the teller refuses to hand over all the money the teller would get shot in the face. The accomplice insists that it isn't a threat; it is just a natural consequence of the bank teller's inaction. While this analogy is extremely violent, it isn't nearly as violent as the religious assertion that non-believers will be and ought to be tortured for all eternity in Hell.

Fortunately, Hell is imaginary!


Regards,

Md. Hossain



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Re: [mukto-mona] Zia the greatest patriot of our time, where Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.



You are right, Ziaur Rahman was an infiltrator of Pakistani Army, and Khaleda Zia was a collaborator.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 4:15 PM, SyedAslam Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Zia the greatest patriot of our time, where Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

Ziaur Rahman made Shah Azizur Rahman the Prime Minister of Bangladesh. Zia's choice of
Shah Azizur Rahman, (a well known collaborator of Pakistan Army) as his Prime Minister,
was not
an isolated event. Truths are stranger than friction - it is another proof that Zia was
in reality a infiltrator in our liberation war. It shows how ISI does it's intelligence work
by the way of deceptions .....

4th Prime Minister of Bangladesh, Shah Azizur Rahman (1979-1982).jpg

President Ziaur Rahman's Prime Minister Shah Azizur Rahman
শাহ আজিজুর রহমান
Prime Minister of Bangladesh
In office 15 April 1979 – 24 March 1982


Notes:

Shah Azizur Rahman's Political career

At the outbreak of the Bangladesh Liberation War, Rahman supported the Pakistani state forces and denounced the Bengali nationalist struggle. He would lead the Pakistani delegation to the United Nations in November 1971, where he would emphatically deny that the Pakistan Army's Operation Searchlight had degenerated into genocide. In 1971, following the defeat of Pakistan in the Bangladesh Liberation War, Rahman continued to reside in Pakistan. In the post-war period, authorities estimated that over a million people had been killed in Bangladesh by Pakistani state forces and collaborating militias. Rahman would continue to lobby Muslim nations in the Middle East to decline diplomatic recognition to Bangladesh.

Shah Azizur Rahman's Return to Bangladesh

When Major General Ziaur Rahman became the President of Bangladesh, he allowed Aziz to take part in national election and appointed him to the post of Prime Minister. Rahman also helped Zia organise the Bangladesh Nationalist Party, which won the 1979 parliamentary elections. Both Zia and Azizur Rahman have been fiercely criticised for including the Khondokar Mostak Ahmed created Indemnity Act ordinance, within the 5th constitutional amendment which gave amnesty to the killers of Sheikh Mujib and legalised the military coups of 1975.


 'হিটলার থেকে জিয়া': বিএনপি একটি পাকিস্তানপন্থী দল - মিনা ফারাহ

স্বাধীনতার পক্ষ ও বিপক্ষ শক্তি
মিনা ফারাহ         বুধবার, ৩০ জুন ২০১০, ১৬ আষাঢ় ১৪১

"   বিএনপি যে স্বাধীনতাবিরোধী দল একথা তারা দলের জন্মের আগেই প্রমাণ করেছে। এর প্রতিষ্ঠাতা একজন গুপ্তচর মুক্তিযোদ্ধা যে কথা আমি বহু তথ্যপ্রমাণ ঘেঁটে 'হিটলার থেকে জিয়া' বইটিতে প্রমাণ করেছি। বিএনপির প্রতিষ্ঠাতা একজন পাকিস্তানপন্থী এবং এর দলপাকিস্তানপন্থী।  ..........২০০১ সালের সংসদে খালেদা জিয়ার পাশে মতিউর রহমান নিজামী, সাঈদী, আল মুজাহিদ এবং জিয়াউর রহমানের সংসদে শাহ্ আজিজুর রহমান ছিলেন প্রধানমন্ত্রী। এখন বলেন, অণুবীক্ষণ যন্ত্রের কি সত্যিই দরকার আছে? স্বাধীনতা যুদ্ধে শাহ্ আজিজুর রহমান এবং নিজামীর ভূমিকা একটি শিশুও জানে। ........জিয়াউর রহমান শাহ্ আজিজকে তার প্রধানমন্ত্রী করেছিল। বেগম জিয়া বড় যুদ্ধাপরাধীদের সংসদে বসিয়েছিল। জিয়াউর রহমান এদের জেল থেকে বের করে এনে রাজনীতিতে ঢুকিয়েছে। ......." মিনাফারাহ
বুধবার, ৩০ জুন ২০১০, ১৬ আষাঢ় ১৪১৭ প্রকাশিত স্বাধীনতার পক্ষ ও বিপক্ষ শক্তি -মিনা ফারাহ
http://www.dailyjanakantha.com/news_view.php?nc=16&dd=2010-06-30&ni=23956

"জিয়া থেকে হিটলার"
এই বইটির তিনটি অংশ। 
প্রথম অংশটি-"জিয়া কেন মুক্তিযোদ্ধা নয়-১৭৮টি কারণ"। 
দ্বিতীয় অংশটি-"সংবিধান সন্ত্রাসী জিয়া"। 
তৃ্তীয় অংশটি-"বইয়ের কাঠগোড়ায় জিয়া"

wRqvi c«kœwe× gyw³hy×!

http://www.amadershomoy2.com/content/2013/02/04/middle0391.htm

wRqv‡K †jLv K‡b©j †e‡Mi wPwV:

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ˆmq` †evinvb Kexi : GKwU `yj©f wPwV Avgv‡`i nv‡Z G‡m‡Q| wPwVwU 1971-Gi 29 †g †jLv| wPwV wj‡L‡Qb ZrKvjxb K‡b©j †eM, wj‡L‡Qb, †gRi wRqvDi ingvb‡K| cÖ_‡gB cvVK‡`i Rb¨ wPwVwU ûeû Dc¯'vcb KiwQ:-
Major Zia Ur Rahman, Pak Army, Dacca
We all happy with your job. We must say good job! You will get new job soon.
DonÕt worrie about your family. Your wife and kids are fine. You have to be more carefull about major Jalil.
Col. Baig Pak Army, May 29. 1971

(†gRi wRqvDi ingvb, cvK Avwg©, XvKv †Zvgvi Kv‡R Avgiv mevB Lywk| Avgv‡`i Aek¨B ej‡Z n‡e Zzwg fv‡jv KvR Ki‡Qv| Lye wkMwMiB Zzwg bZzb KvR cv‡e|†Zvgvi cwievi wb‡q DwØMœ n‡qvbv| †Zvgvi ¯¿x I ev"Pviv fv‡jv Av‡Q| †Zvgv‡K †gRi Rwjj m¤ú‡K© Av‡iv mZK© _vK‡Z n‡e| K‡b©j †eM, cvK Avwg© †g 29, 1971)....
Details at:
http://www.amadershomoy2.com/content/2013/02/04/news0586.htm
According to Pro-BNP writer এবনে গোলাম সামাদ
in মুজিবনগরের বাখানি- আত্মপক্ষ published in

নয়াদিগন্ত, তারিখ২২ এপ্রিল২০১৩

"জিয়াউর রহমান  দেশ ছেড়ে ভারতে যান, কিন্তু 
ভরতে যেয়ে তিনি ছিলেন গৃহবন্দী ....http://www.dailynayadiganta.com/?p=169150

This is because General Osmani became very suspicious about Ziaur Rahman's deceptive activities... 

জিয়াউর রহমান ছিলেন প্রকৃত পাকিস্তান প্রেমিক

He is the hero of Khemkaran sector !!!!!
In Pakistan Army he received commando training specializing in infiltration and  won the Hilal-e-Jurat for his performance in 1965-war. His transfer to East in  October 1970 was a part of Paki Military's
grand plan ....! Later on, during his regime, he started the process of Pakistanization of Bangladesh. ......!!!!!!

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Shah DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:
I am waiting to see when these cockroaches would claim that BNP/Jamat razakars as being our true liberators? The person who spearheaded Bangladeshi liberation fight had to be killed with his whole family because our beloved Pakistani major needed his kind of democracy in Bangladesh? The man got Pakistani training for democratic rules and principles to spread and practice in Bangladesh? Only blue-eyed gullible would swallow such daylight lies?

When our Awami brothers/sisters do not know the exact numbers our freedom fighters, we got BNP/Jamat cadres to lecture us about the true number of freedom fighters? That is funny! We know exactly how may were there and how many really fired a gun in the air. It is also a great tragedy that too many people have been caught as being false freedom fighters. Every old man of sixty and beyond is called freedom fighter regardless whether he was there in the front or occupying a minority owed property with no shame.

Let me be blunt here to destroy the false myth. As being a nation of cheaters and liars, we got to come clean some day with some cruel truths. More lies would not make things any better in the future. Freedom fighters were a force but they did not break the Pak army's backbone. Indian army did it at the cost of their soldiers and ammo. People should read history and watch TV reports of that time to see what was happening in Bangladesh during the liberation period. India had to secure Security council to invade East Pakistan and force Pakistanis to capitulate. General Osmani did not force Niazi to surrender. If Aurora's army forces Pak to surrender, what makes you think that he would let Osmani to take the credit when Osmani was behind the India army line? When Pakis were surrendering, the imbecile BIr-Bitam Khondoker was shopping around the Park Circus area as another clown. I can understand why the name India causes so much pain and allergic reactions to these cockroaches and clowns. Credits need to go right place even it may cause some gall bladder pain to our well documented anti-liberation forces. We got our country and lets bring civility and rule of law to her and make it better country so that nobody flees on boats. Amen!


Educational videos for our delusional friends:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8FqfHcvr0c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWQsZ2oHUoQ

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Tanvir Nowaz <tanvirnowaz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Indian govt, a typical Indian, or Indian Dalals (which we've plenty recently)  never recognized or respected our Army and brave Mukti-Joddha's role and sacrifices who fought our liberation war. India only joined in & fought the last two weeks from December 3rd to December 15th. Yet, these Indians (and their local dalals) regards the Bangladesh liberation war was a India-Pak war where Mukti-bahini, Bangladesh army, common citizens, women's help & sacrifices are not worth much and are insignificant. Bangladeshi's long 9 month of fight and preparing the context for final outcome do not matter.   

Out of that mindset, they (& dalals) celebrate and boast about Indian army & the fact that PAK surrendered to Indian Arora, where we the Bangladeshi find it repulsive, conniving, disrespecting and a back stabbing. Ideally PAK should have surrendered to our Muktijuddho chief Gen Osmani, if it ware not for the Indian typical hegemony mindset.  Our dalals do not even find it insulting.  (surrendering to Maj Zia does not even come in this context sice Zia was our chief at that time, regardless of how brave and decorated role he had in the war, totally two different issues that even a bone head can understand that. Surrendering happens chief to chief)  



On Monday, June 1, 2015 11:34 AM, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:


<< There are other accounts, from men who were among the lucky few to escape the noose but nevertheless found themselves condemned to varied terms of imprisonment. The strand of thought throughout the stories runs along similar patterns. The innocent paid for crimes they did not commit; and ruthlessness was what the Zia military dictatorship employed in its efforts to survive and to ensure that no dissent remained to threaten its grip on power. >>

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Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 15:42:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [BDPANA] Re: Zia the greatest patriot of our time
From: shahdeeldar@gmail.com
To: tanvirnowaz@yahoo.com
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Pak army surrendered to General Aurora and not to our dear Major Zia given the great leadership BS that Mr. Nawaz talks about.

The man was himself was the chief instigator of the fire that he was forced to tackle to secure his own position. What a surprise!

Zia did not establish any democracy in Bangladesh. He only secured his position as Ayub Khan-s did in the past. Every dictator have done this to please the West for recognition and aid. Zia was not an exception.

Democracy? Oh God, I do not know when that would come to this poor country.

This song and dance about Zia is rather an insult to the intelligence of people.



On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Tanvir Nowaz <tanvirnowaz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Zia rescued the nation THREE times at the most critical time of Bangladesh: 
    1) During independence war by providing critical leadership on the war field, inspiring the nation to fight on. 
    2) As deputy of Mostak/Sayem and as chief marshal law administrator, his leadership stabilized the army and the country during the upheaval of coup after coup after the death of Mujib
   3) He re-established Democracy, Media freedom and introduce market economy when all these were illegal. 

Everybody who is opining in Bangladesh news outlets (even calling Ziaur Rahman as ISI agents, Rajackers) or doing politics, or making tons of money in private businesses owe all of these to Ziaur Rahman.  Ziaur Rahman re-established Democracy, Freedom of speech in BD, post BAKSAL era and was the father of free market economy in Bangladesh. 

People who cannot acknowledge the contributions of our national fathers such as Ziaur Rahman and out of their ugly narrow 'dol kana' sewer mind try to demonize and lie, do not in fact harm or affect the history or national fathers's reputation an ounce, but their own standing. All it does is to add more dumps into the sewer politics which only effects national political culture adversely. 

One does not have to try to tear down and demonize one national hero in order to be able to appreciate the other. Only the vindictive hate mongers do those. 

Let's see the facts, in chronological order, in order to debunk the serial lying and futile attempts to re-write history in Awami ways:

1)  Mujib was the undisputed independence political movement's  leader of Bangladesh and was arrested at the beginning of the war. 

2)  Ziaur Rahman stepped up as the one of main leader of MuktiJuddho  (even AK Khondokar was inspired by Zia) when country was lost at the beginning of the fight, given Mujib was in jail & BD govt had not yet been formed. He have inspiration to fight and filled the vacuum of leadership.  he proclaimed declaration of independence, led the fight on the ground.   People who cannot admit this are simply miserable and narrow minded. 

3) After independence, Mujib became power hungry monster and became a brutal dictator, created the killer RakkhiBahini (Tofael as the killing/looting leader), put RakkhiBahini above the judicial's jurisdiction by giving it the indemnity,  denied DEMOCRACY to the people and denied FREE SPEECH & Free Media by forming BAKSAL. Mujib became the worst enemy of the everything for which we had gained our independence for and for which he so valiantly had led the movement. What a reversal of role !!! Shocking! Bangladesh's first dictator and enemy of people's rights was Mujib. 

4) JASOD's Inu, Badol, Mennon  had declared ARM WAR against the civilian Mujib govt, conspired and incited a section of army against Mujib govt. BTW, 'ARM WAR' against the state is sedition that is punishable by death. Yet our current illegal and un-elected PM Sheikh Hyena embraces her father's tormentors for current political benefit instead of hanging them for sedition. JASOD's arm war, conspiracies and incitement in Army added extra fuel to the anger the people were feeling due the BAKSAL's war against DEMOCRACY, FREEDOM, Free speeches and RakKhi Bahini Rampage of killing, looting and raping. Even Humayun Ahmed's family home was hijacked by RakkhiBahini according to his mother's memoir.

5) Mujib was killed by some Army officers, Awami Mostak (not Zia) became new president, and Awami Shafiullha(not Zia) was kept as the army chief. A lot of people suspect Awami Mostak was part of the killing plan as he so quickly became the president, instead of other bigger Awami leaders. The rest of the Awami leaders/MP had pledged allegiance to Mostak govt and did nothing to jail, try or punish Mujib killers. JASOD's Inu, Badol. Mennon, Motiya were ecstatic and were dancing in the street. The public mood seems joyous at the prospect of end of BAKAL/Rakkhi Bahini's rampage & dictatorship. 

6) Subsequent coups after coups led by col Taher, Shafaet Jamil, Khaled Mossaraf occurred in the army. Zia was imprisoned. The nation was leaderless, no stable political process (BAKSAL had lost all credibility & trust by then) or govt existed for the 3 months since Mujib's death and the army was falling apart, country was falling part. The hard earned independence was in jeopardy. The state of emergency was declared by Mostak govt, justice Abu Sayem was made chief administrator of emergency, not Zia. More than a year after the killing of Mujib, in 1976 Zia had become chief administrator of marshal law when Sayem became the president. Only in April 1977 (1 and 1/2 year later of Mujib's killing) Zia became the president. 
All these time he has helped the Mostak and Sayem administration to regain stability in the army & in the country. He made the army disciplined.      

7) Zia surely was not elected as democratic vote, nor did Mostak or Sayem as the nation was still in BAKSAL non-democratic political state and the nation was going through very unstable phase. No democractic party existed then or democratic political system developed yet at that time to have an effective multi party democracy.  This is from the wiki.... " Ziaur Rahman became the 7th President of Bangladesh on 21 April 1977. Years of disorder from the previous political administration of the Awami League and BAKSAL had left most of Bangladesh's state institutions in disarray, with constant internal and external threats. Assuming full control of the state, Zia lifted martial law and introduced massive reforms for the development of the country." .

8) One does not have ANY moral authority to criticize Zia for not being democratic while he fails to criticize Mujib for killing the democracy in the first place by the constitution and practices of BAKSAL/Rakkhibahini.  
    a) Zia gave BD stability, brought discipline in Army that was trigger happy and save from potential external threats/exploitation.
    b) Zia abolished much hated BAKSAL/RakkhiBahini and brought back DEMOCRACY for ALL. 
    c) Zia re-established FREEDOM of media and freedom of speech     
    d) Zia gave re-birth to AwamiLeague which was annulled to form BAKSAL
    e) Zia established FREE Market economy & nation building initiatives such as agriculture self-sufficiency, literacy movement etc.
    f) Zia gave national election in 1979. 

9) Had Zia wanted to be a brutal dictator, he did not need to re-introduce multi-party democracy. He could have become the president of BAKSAL and rule like dictator. Had Mujib & BAKSAL survived, Bangladesh still be an undemocratic socialist country like Cuba, Venezuela, or Zimbabwe. 

Funny to see the supporters of national election & local election robbing and theft, 154 vote-less MP, un-elected majority run parliament ,  and un-elected, undemocratic, ILLEGAL govt (by virtue of 154 un-elected parliament) who has been trying to replace democracy with development propaganda campaign and  who has been saying 'AL does not believe in too much democracy'  are now complaining why Zia was not democratically elected first. 
On Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:43 AM, "Mahbubur Rahman apurba01@gmail.com [BDPANA]" <BDPANA@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
how i can i remind you deldar the era of 72 - 75
people were desperate to get out off those fasict days. Legacy is more true to Zia than Mujib.
 
from no democracy in 74 to a rainbow parliament, any rational citizen will take that option. So demonizing Zia cannot help mujib on his deeds. That would be an excuse spare to a leader like mujib.
 
wafaderer golai ghonta porabe ke.
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Shah DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:
Chanting the mantra does not make a military dictator a Jeffersonian democrat. Our BNP brothers/sisters need to study how plural democracies are/were being created in various parts of the world. You do kill elected government to promote democracy. Zia was the sole beneficiary of 1975 military coup. He did not call an election right away to handover the power to a civilian government. Please stop idolizing a dictator with blood in his hands. The man should be prosecuted posthumously for the murders. Please, make no bones about it! Thank you very much.
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 9:15 PM, 'Quazi Nuruzzaman' via Bangladesh Progressives <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Fantastic.Full of facts. Absolutely correct. No single deviation of statements or words. We are still alive, and  the life witness of those days, not the eye witness of 3rd to 7th November, 1975, in Dhaka or Cantonment, but the newspapers and radio witness of those days as a political news junky of those days, who used to memorize these, as friends and relatives ridicule or make fun of me.

If a single thing is found lie or wrong or exaggeration, I am ready to lose the right and privilege of discussing any politics to the people of the community. This is for the people who are younger and were born after those incidents.

Dr. Moazzam Hossain Kazi is a brilliant scholar and a dedicated patriotic Bangladeshi-American. We all appreciate it and admire him highly. God bless him for his sense of indebtedness for the country back home left behind for our livelihood here.

Quazi Nuruzzaman
 

On Friday, May 29, 2015 4:24 PM, Muazzam Kazi <kazi4986@yahoo.com> wrote:

Zia is embedded as the father of modern Bangladesh and as the one who 'constitutionalized' and established multi-party democracy and Bangladeshi nationalism. Writes Muazzam H. Kazi, Ph.D., Diplomat of American Board of Radiology.  
 
 
 
If we want to Sketch his life, we have to divide his life into four parts.
1. Soldier Zia
2. Freedom fighter Zia
3. 7th of November and Zia
4. Father of multi-party democracy in Bangladesh.
 
 
 
Soldier Zia: Zia joined Pakistani military in fifty's and fought against Indian army in the Khemkaran sector in Punjab. His unit received the highest numbers of gallantry awards for heroic performances in the war. Ziaur Rahman himself won the distinguished and prestigious Hilal-e-Jurat medal (Crescent of Courage) is the second highest military award of Pakistan. As a professional soldier he delivered his wisdom and courage between India and Pakistan wars in 1965.
Freedom Fighter Zia: Zia with most of the Bengali army officers were worried for the intense situation in Bangladesh during early days of 1971. Zia was stationed in Chittagong with Col. M R Chowdhury and Brigadier Majumdar. Brigadier Majumdar was the most senior Bengali army officer in Chittagong. At the eve of operation search light the supreme Bengali leader Seikh M Rahman arrested by Pakistani army. This is unprecedented in the history, where supreme leader arrested by the enemy with out any blood shade.
When whole nation was in disarray and in panicky situation, Zia risked his and his family's life to safeguard the people and the country. Zia not only revolt against Pakistani military establishment he also declared the independent of Bangladesh.
His unit received the highest numbers of gallantry awards for heroic performances in the war. Ziaur Rahman himself won the distinguished and prestigious Bir Uttam medal is the second highest military award of Bangladesh. As a professional soldier he delivered his wisdom and courage between Bangladesh and Pakistan war in 1971. The declaration of our independent was vividly described by Hymeyan Ahmed in his book Jusna and Jononir golpo.
7th of November and Zia:
On 3rd of November, 1975 Brig. Khaled Mosharraf and Shafat Zamil took over power from Mustaq Ahmed and they arrested Zia and dismissed him from the army. Zia was a captive inside his home from 3rd of November to 7th of November, 1975. Khaled tried to consolidate power during this time, but he was not able to convince his fellow army officers and general soldiers.
On the morning of 7th of November 1975, general soldiers started mutiny against Khaled and Zamil. Ziaur Rahman was freed by the 2nd Artillery regiment under Lt. Col. Rashid and re-appointed him as army chief.
When Zia came out from the house arrest, he told his fellow soldiers to lay down their arms and follow the instructions of their respective officers. This time was one of the most crucial times in our entire history. If Gen Zia failed to back the army to the cantonment, Bangladesh would turn into a fail country.
Let see General Syed Asrafuzzaman comments about 7th of November.
"On November 07, 1975 ordinary soldiers, who mutinied against the newly appointed army chief Brig Gen Khaled Mosharraf, rather forced Gen Zia to become the army chief. There being no government in existence in those tumultuous days Gen Zia had no choice but to proclaim himself as the CMLA too. Later he had to become the president under circumstances beyond his control. At that time I was posted as a staff officer in the AHQ. I am an eye witness to many of the incidents that took place in those days in the army. Those who blame Gen Zia for usurping power are not correct. Let me also add here that at that critical time there was no other senior armed forces officer who was acceptable as a commander and leader to the unruly armed soldiers. Gen Zia was acceptable because of his clean and courageous image as a sector commander in the Liberation War, and for his personal honesty, integrity, efficiency and, above all, his charismatic leadership qualities. There was no one else who could beat him in this regard. I was personally present in the meeting in 2nd Field Regiment Artillery in Dhaka Cantonment wherein the armed soldiers (officers present were unarmed and without badges of rank) were insisting upon Gen Zia (the only officer with badges of rank on) to take the command of the army. Gen Zia was not willing to do so. Finally the senior officers present also requested Gen Zia to take over. Gen Zia in his usual way bullied the soldiers for being unruly. He also admonished the officers for failing to exercise command over their respective troops. Finally he came out with some preconditions both for the soldiers and the officers. His preconditions were accepted by all. Gen Zia became the army chief. The army started getting back into discipline. Finally chain of command was restored. If Gen Zia had refused to be the army chief on that day only God knew what would have been the fate of the army and the country".
Zia the father of multiparty democracy: Zia is embedded as the father of modern Bangladesh and as the one who 'constitutionalised' and established multi-party democracy in Bangladesh. Bangladesh Awami League, Jamata Islam, communist Party, NAP emerged as a political party under the blessing of Ziaur Rahman.
Zia not only save the country at this turmoil time of our history, he also entry in the political domain and state governance, and that the political dynamics are no longer confined to one party (as was during and immediately after the war of independence) or to a political ideology. He introduces Bangladeshi nationalism and multi-party democracy in Bangladesh.
Any country to flourish and progress, patriotic and visionary leaderships are indispensable. Such leaderships may come from founding fathers and from visionaries such as Zia who with correct guidance steered the future of the country on the right path.
Vision of Zia:
  • Face and tackle flood through digging rivers and cannels.
  • Confined the population growth through effective birth control policy.
  • Fight against illiteracy.
  • Consulates the press freedom.
  • Effective foreign policy to safe guard the sovereignty and economical diversity.
  • Promote free market economy to bolster economical growth.
  • Mandatory participation of SSC and HSC student to tackle illiteracy.
  • Send human expertise to wealthy country to earn foreign currency.
 
The stature Zia enjoys today in Bangladesh, even after almost thirty three years since his passing away, is unprecedented, given the short period during which he governed and his unplanned and circumstantial entry into politics and governance. Hence, Zia's name and the goodwill it carries will triumph in its own right as he has earned it and the people of Bangladesh have evidently reciprocated their respect for him. The fact remains that Zia and his legacy still lives on and will prevail.
Zia has been granted his rightful place in the history of this country by those who hold actual power – the people, the ultimate owners. And it is a place where no leaders have treaded before or since, where Zia is entrenched as a true patriot, an honest leader, a legendary visionary, and an effective governor.
References:
  • Ziaur Rahman encyclopedia
  • General Syed Asrafuzzaman
  • Tamina Mahmud Chowdhury is a research associate/lecturer at the Institute of Governance Studies, Brac University.
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Re: [mukto-mona] বিবিসির সিরাজুর রহমান আর নেই - BBC বাংলা



This story needs to be looked at with proper perspective. Someone must have given the English transcript of the speech of Sheikh Mujib before the interview. I believe, he did not make the number out of the thin air. I also believe, at that moment, he did not know the real story behind the liberation of Bangladesh. So, he must have depended on people around him for the facts and figures before the interview. If he used the figure 3 million (instead of 0.3 million), so be it. 

Mr. Sirajur Rahman used this issue to serve his own interest, and was, in fact, serving the interest of the anti-liberation cohorts.      

Jiten Roy

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Sirajur Rahman might have resorted to tall talks at the fag end of his life, but his forceful disclosure that Sheikh Mujibur Rahman mistranslated 3 lack of war dead to 3 million had been testified by the person who gave him that figure in the first place. Abdur Razzaque was Mujib's most trusted lieutenant and from him Mujib got this figure (which was itself wildly exaggerated) before going to the foreign press briefing. So it seems Sirajur Rahman got this story right. 

- AR 



On Tuesday, 2 June 2015, 3:06, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
God bless this liar. I bet Bongo-Bandhu did not care to pay much attention to this poor radio fellow?
 




On Monday, June 1, 2015 6:29 PM, "Farida Majid farida_majid@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
বিবিসি বাংলা বিভাগের সাবেক উপ-প্রধান সিরাজুর রহমান লন্ডনের একটি হাসপাতালে আজ মারা গেছেন।
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বিবিসি বাংলা বিভাগের সাবেক উপ-প্রধান সাংবাদিক সিরাজুর রহমান লন্ডনের একটি হাসপাতালে মারা গেছেন। তার বয়স হয়েছিল ৮১ বছর। তিনি দীর্ঘদিন যাবত ফুসফুসের রোগে ভুগছিলেন।
bbc.co.uk

I used to know him well when I lived in London and did occasional voice work for BBC Bangla. He used to be a bombast even in those days but certainly not the pathological liar he turned out to be late in life. His tall story and allegations of Sheikh Mujib's mistranslation of 3-lakh to '3 million' dead in 1971 War has been proven a complete lie by persons who were present on the occasion of Mujib's arrival in London from Pakistani jail, or David Frost's interview of Mujib.








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Sirajur Rahman might have resorted to tall talks at the fag end of his life, but his forceful disclosure that Sheikh Mujibur Rahman mistranslated 3 lack of war dead to 3 million had been testified by the person who gave him that figure in the first place. Abdur Razzaque was Mujib's most trusted lieutenant and from him Mujib got this figure (which was itself wildly exaggerated) before going to the foreign press briefing. So it seems Sirajur Rahman got this story right. 

- AR 



On Tuesday, 2 June 2015, 3:06, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
God bless this liar. I bet Bongo-Bandhu did not care to pay much attention to this poor radio fellow?
 




On Monday, June 1, 2015 6:29 PM, "Farida Majid farida_majid@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
বিবিসি বাংলা বিভাগের সাবেক উপ-প্রধান সিরাজুর রহমান লন্ডনের একটি হাসপাতালে আজ মারা গেছেন।
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বিবিসি বাংলা বিভাগের সাবেক উপ-প্রধান সাংবাদিক সিরাজুর রহমান লন্ডনের একটি হাসপাতালে মারা গেছেন। তার বয়স হয়েছিল ৮১ বছর। তিনি দীর্ঘদিন যাবত ফুসফুসের রোগে ভুগছিলেন।
bbc.co.uk

I used to know him well when I lived in London and did occasional voice work for BBC Bangla. He used to be a bombast even in those days but certainly not the pathological liar he turned out to be late in life. His tall story and allegations of Sheikh Mujib's mistranslation of 3-lakh to '3 million' dead in 1971 War has been proven a complete lie by persons who were present on the occasion of Mujib's arrival in London from Pakistani jail, or David Frost's interview of Mujib.






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