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Thursday, October 27, 2011

[ALOCHONA] Awami League showing true faces

Awami League showing true faces

Abdur Rahman Khan

The two successful road marches led by the opposition BNP Chairperson
Begum Khaleda Zia and her criticism of the politicisation of war crime
tribunal has evidently angered the ruling Awami League.

Going beyond political decency, an irritated Prime Minister and Awami
League President Sheikh Hasina has vented her anger by publicly making
statements about who is rising early in the morning, offering prayers
or reciting the Holy Quran. However, more articulated political
attacks came from Hasina's cabinet colleagues, advisers and party
members in public meetings as well as in the parliament.

The garrulous State Minister for Law, Justice and Parliamentary
Affairs, Kamrul Islam in his statement said that he believes the BNP
chief has become desperate to oust the government, and alerted the
party men to remain vigilant. He said last Friday, "We don't take
Khaleda Zia's speeches lightly. She tries to play again when she
stumbles. So, we'll have to watch her activities carefully." He was
responding to Khaleda's hint for an 'ultimate' movement against the
government after the month-long programme of road marches in
October.Khaleda Zia in her speech in Chapai Nawabganj on 19 October
said: "In our road marches, we will tell the nation about the
government's tyranny and corruption. Then we will prepare for a final
match."

Awami League (AL) Presidium Member Obaidul Quader also slammed BNP
Chairperson Khaleda Zia for her remarks that the government will be
ousted by September next. "She has fixed a date to bring down the
ruling party, which is never possible," he said.

Suranjit's censure notice on Khaleda's remarks
Meanwhile, a group of senior Awami League MPs, including Suranjit
Sengupta, issued notice to discuss in parliament opposition leader
Khaleda Zia's remarks on war crimes trial.

Rashed Khan Menon, Sheikh Fazlul Karim Selim, Fazle Rabbi Mia, Prof
Mohammad Ali Ashraf and Rafiqul Islam also signed the notice. The
parliament initiated general discussion on a motion moved by senior
Awami League leader Suranjit Sengupta on October 26.

Agriculture Minister Matia Chowdhury, Amir Hossain Amu, Tofael Ahmed,
Finance Minister AMA Muhith, Jute and Textile Minister Abdul Latif
Siddiqui, Sheikh Fazlul Karim Selim, Workers' Party chief Rashed Khan
Menon, State Minister for Law Qamrul Islam and treasury bench members
Syed Ali Ashraf, Abdul Mannan, Advocate Fazle Rabbi Miah, JP member
Mujibul Huq, JSD member Mainuddin Khan Badal, participated in the
discussion that lasted for more than two hours.
Moving the motion Suranjit urged the Supreme Court to take legal
action against opposition leader Khaleda Zia on charge of obstruction
to the legal proceedings of the court that is trying War Criminals of
1971.

Moving a censure motion against Khaleda Zia for taking stand against
the motion passed by the parliament for holding trial of the war
criminals, he said Khaleda Zia spoke in favour of war criminals when
the International Crimes Tribunal began the trial.
He blamed that Khaleda hurt the spirit of the Liberation War,
obstructed the war crimes trial and maligned parliament by "siding
with the war criminals". "She will face contempt of court proceedings
if she delivers such speeches while carrying the national flag as the
opposition leader," he added.

Sengupta said seven people have been arrested on charge of committing
crimes against the humanity while charge has been framed against the
two accused.
He said the trial of the war criminals is not linked with the politics
or power, rather it is linked with the rule of law. Sengupta said the
opposition leader's statements on one hand are tantamount to contempt
of parliament and on the other are sub judice since the matter is
pending before the International Crimes Tribunal.

Earlier, senior MPs of ruling Awami League had demanded general
discussion in parliament on Khaleda's remarks on war crimes trial made
during BNP-led four-party alliance rallies in Sylhet and Chapai
Nawabganj. Khaleda demanded during road march rallies that the leaders
of Jamaat-e-Islami and BNP, who had been detained on charges of crimes
against humanity during the Liberation War in 1971, be freed.

BNP-led opposition leaders have been alleging that the International
Crime tribunal (ICT) formed by Awami League was far below
international standard and no international lawyer is allowed to plead
in defence. It was politically motivated and aimed at harassing the
political opponents, according to opposition alliance.
Sengupta, a member of the Advisory Council of Awami League , suggested
that parliament should adopt a censure motion to prevent the
opposition leader from spreading falsehood and engaging her in
unlawful activities in the name of road march.

Suranjit Sengupta, who often hits the headlines by making
controversial statements, told the parliament on an earlier occasion
that opposition leader Khaleda Zia's presentation of a shadow budget
outside Parliament was a "plot to create" another 1/11. "I can foresee
the syndromes of 1/11," he said participating in general discussion in
the House on the national budget for fiscal 2010-11.

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[ALOCHONA] Re: FW : urgent about consumers

Where did you see us two arguing?! Its not impossible but certainly didn't happen in this thread. I think your eyes that only see AL could not see that I was arguing with AL think tank Habib.

You must have dropped your spliff mate. Pick it up and stay chilled out. Sarcasm doesn't suit you.

Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: FW : urgent about consumers


Whaat a jhogra between Chittaranjan Babu aka DESH Bondoo and the Angry man from Kuwait who knows everything.

How can it be ?????


-----Original Message-----
From: Desh Bondhu
Sent: Oct 26, 2011 7:10 PM
To: "alochona@yahoogroups.com"
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: FW : urgent about consumers


.......Anti-Govt ???


It's not former Libya! It's Bangladesh.


Why the ruling party does not remember the consequences of using tools of persecution against the people???


The fresh example of Gaddafi and Mubarak are in front of them.


Some loyalists always misguide the tyrant against people for Halua-Ruti.


These loyalists(chatar Dol) destroyed Sk Mujib.


Unfortunate !!

Desh-Bondhu,
'Desher Kotha Bolay'

On 26 Oct 2011, at 18:34, "Md.Hasibul Hassan Habib" <think_tank_habib@...> wrote:


I cant understand whats wrong with u Ezajur ???
what i told and for what ur shouting ....lol ..rediculas...

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From: ezajur <Ezajur@...>
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:30 AM
Subjec! t: [ALOCHONA] Re: FW : urgent about consumers



Your Honourable Commerce Minister would never give any award to any criminal who supported AL. And you would not want him to. So what are you talking about? You can't imagine AL stopping corruption in the AL party and AL government but you are very keen about "counter intelligence system for a punishment of anti-gov activities." You would be very forgiving if RAW agents were exposed in Dhaka but you are very keen about "counter intelligence system for a punishment of anti-gov activities." And only under an AL government of course.
Hypocrisy knows no bounds in Bangladesh. Especially in blind party supporters.

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Md.Hasibul Hassan Habib" <think_tank_habib@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Fellows
>
> I think An Award Should Declear for the
> Information about Consumer and artificial crisis creator in Ramadan to
> make a counter intelligence system for a punishment of anti-gov
> activities .
>
> what you think please ?
>
> I have send the mail to Honbl'e Commerce Minister. What is your
> view please ? If you agree then you must push it and make a voice please and
> express your support to Honbl'e commerce minister to go for a bold
> step.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Habib
>
> _ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Honbl'e Commerce
> Minister
>
> I am pleased to
> propose you to go for a step that will find out some investors
> behind illegal consumers who specially encouraged the
> consumers to consume the
> products in Ramadan and made profit .
>
>
> Maximum consumers are
> businessman , may be its not possible to punish them all but obviously some of
> them can be punished.
> Specially the floating
> investors who has black money and secretly invest to the consumer businessman
> and financed them to consume , when banks were alert about allocating loans.
>
> You
> can declare award among public who will inform authentically Government about this kind of people
> please that will help to make a counter intelligence system countrywide, what
> you already did about adulterating in food and i think
> it was a revolutionary step and which has not been focused
> properly by AL and Media !
>
>
> You can take the idea
> in your kind consideration and also can implement with more artistically with your knowledge
> & prudency please.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Habib
> +8801914136443
>
> I am copying this mail
> to make a voice and attention to the idea
>
> 1. HPM
> 2. PS1 to HPM
> 3. Secretery of Min of
> Commerce
> 4. Aditional Secretery
> , Min of Commerce
>

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[ALOCHONA] Re: Dr. Dipu Moni's NY visit !!!!!!!!!!

Ah! The closet nethrist returns! Actually I didn't use the word Nethri but your appearance has reminded me of the term :)

Hows your Nethri doing?

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, shafiq013@... wrote:
>
>
> As if he was present there. Must be day-dreaming. People who make such
> remarks forget Dr. Goebbels tactics does work all the time. Believe me
> I know what will be his response. He will again take the refuge behind
> the word "Natri".
>
> Shafiq
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <Ezajur@> wrote:
> >
> > Not really. It is possible that her visa was deliberately held up in
> Washington for the past few months in order to make a point. Just
> because she got it in the end is no justified cause for gloating on your
> part.
> >
> > When the plane door opened at JFK and the PM took her first step into
> the narrow passage, Dipu Moni could not control her joy. She broke free
> from the group and hugged the PM with great happiness. Her happiness,
> and the happiness of the PM, on finally making it to the US was clearly
> visible.
> >
> > Which is what you could only expect from a Bangaldeshi PM and FM.
> >
> > Ezajur Rahman
> > Kuwait
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Muhammad Ali manik195709@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > FM Dr. Dipu Moni was in NY for a short visit. Her visit was a slap
> to the relentless fradulent propaganda by Abu Jafar and gang for last
> few months regarding denial of her visa to enter US. Now we demand Abu
> Jafar, Mohiuddin Anwar and others to come up with good explanation
> > > about this visit.
> > >
> > > Dr. Manik
> > >
> >
>


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[ALOCHONA] Re: Amnesty: No arms for Bangladesh

Yes, yes - but whatever you do please do not name the government of the day if it is formed by your party. Rather, lets talk about UK banks.

If this passes as intellectual comment we might as well legalise all drugs.

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Farida Majid <farida_majid@...> wrote:
>
>
> I have met Abbas Faiz of Amnesty International, a very nice man, and he has rightly noted:
>
> << "By failing to take proper judicial action against Rab, successive Bangladeshi governments have effectively endorsed the force's claims and conduct and given it carte blanche to act with impunity. All we have seen from the current government are broken promises or worse, outright denial," said Amnesty International's Bangladesh researcher in Dhaka Abbas Faiz in a press release. >>
>
> In the context of warning the countries that manufacture and supply arms and ammo to BD, please read John Pilger's piece on Libya, especially the first part where he describes the invovement of BIG UK banks and companies in arms sales to authoritarian Mid-East countries.
>
> http://www.truth-out.org/hail-true-victors-ruperts-revolution/1315501888
>
>
>
>
> To:
> From: bdmailer@...
> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:32:47 +0600
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Amnesty: No arms for Bangladesh
>
>
>
>
>
>
> No arms for Bangladesh Amnesty Int'l urges arms supplying countries over extra-judicial killing
> Amnesty International has called upon all countries to stop supplying arms to Bangladesh citing that they will be used by Rapid Action Battalion and other law enforcement agencies to commit extrajudicial killings.
> An AI report yesterday said since inception in 2004, Rab has been implicated in the unlawful killing of at least 700 people including about 200 after the Awami League-led government assumed power. It said the party had pledged before elections that it would bring the extrajudicial executions to an end.
> The UK-based human rights watchdog in the report released last night, titled "Crimes Unseen: Extrajudicial executions in Bangladesh", made the recommendation to the international community as the government reportedly refuses to stop extrajudicial killings. It claimed the government consistently denies stopping this despite repeated appeals from national and international rights bodies including AI.
> "In Amnesty International's view, any country that knowingly sends arms or other supplies to equip a force which systematically violates human rights may itself bear some responsibility for those violations," read the last lines of the report.
> AI mentioned 11 countries that continue to supply Bangladesh a wide range of police and military equipment including pistols, machine guns, toxic agents (like teargas), grenade launchers and helicopters. The countries include Austria, Belgium, China, Czech Republic, Italy, Poland, Russian Federation, Slovakia, Turkey and the USA.
> As an example of foreign assistance to Rab, the report mentioned the Wikileaks leak of US diplomatic cables that divulged training of Rab by UK police.
> On different occasions, the AI urged the government to stop extrajudicial killings while the New York-based Human Rights Watch in May asked the government to have Rab reformed in six months or disband it altogether.
> The report said all hopes of extrajudicial executions coming to an end vanished in late 2009 when the government, including its home minister, denied that there were extrajudicial killings going on in the country.
> "This denial has shielded Rab from justice, and released the prime minister from her pledge. It amounts to a renewed lease of impunity for Rab," said the report.
> Impunity for Rab seems to have created an environment in which other security agencies, such as the police, found the scope to follow Rab's footsteps knowing that accountability can be avoided, observed the report. It said since early 2010 police killed 30 people, portraying them as "shootouts", "gunfights" or "crossfire" just like Rab does.
> However, these remain suspected extrajudicial executions, said the report which was made following AI interviews of 20 victims in June.
> The report also blamed police for helping Rab distort records, covering up the human rights violations, biased investigations of such killings and not letting victims file cases against Rab.
> Rab is a unit of police.
> Instead of blaming even a single Rab personnel, investigations conducted by Rab and the government always end up calling the victims criminals and portraying the deaths as justified, said the report.
> "By failing to take proper judicial action against Rab, successive Bangladeshi governments have effectively endorsed the force's claims and conduct and given it carte blanche to act with impunity. All we have seen from the current government are broken promises or worse, outright denial," said Amnesty International's Bangladesh researcher in Dhaka Abbas Faiz in a press release.
> Inspector General of Police Hassan Mahmood Khandker told The Daily Star last night that he is unable to comment on the AI report since he has not read it or seen it.
> http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=200002--------Government must act now to stop police unlawful killingsThe Bangladesh authorities must honour their pledge to stop extrajudicial executions by a special police force accused of involvement in hundreds of killings, Amnesty International said today in a new report.Crimes unseen: Extrajudicial executions in Bangladesh also documents how the Rapid Action Battalion (RAB) justify these killings as accidental or as a result of officers acting in self-defence, although in reality many victims are killed following their arrest. "Hardly a week goes by in Bangladesh without someone being shot by RAB with the authorities saying they were killed or injured in `crossfire' or a `gun-fight'. However the authorities choose to describe such incidents, the fact remains that they are suspected unlawful killings," said Abbas Faiz, Amnesty International's Bangladesh Researcher. The RAB has been implicated in the killing of at least 700 people since its inception in 2004. Any investigations that have been carried out into those killed have either been handled by RAB or by a government-appointed judicial body but the details of their methodology or findings have remained secret. They have never resulted in judicial prosecution. RAB has consistently denied responsibility for unlawful killings and the authorities have accepted RAB claims. "It is appalling that virtually all alleged instances of illegal RAB killings have gone unchallenged or unpunished. There can be no justice if the force is the chief investigator of its own wrong-doings. Such investigations cannot be impartial. There is nothing to stop the RAB from destroying the evidence and engineering the outcome," said Abbas Faiz. Former detainees also told Amnesty International how they were routinely tortured in custody, suffering beatings, food and sleep deprivation, and electric shocks. At least 200 alleged RAB killings have occurred since January 2009 when the current Awami League government came to power, despite the Prime Minister's pledge to end extrajudicial executions and claims by the authorities that no extrajudicial executions were carried out in the country in this period. In addition, at least 30 people have been killed in other police operations since early 2010, with the police also portraying them as deaths in "shoot-outs" or "gun-fights". "By failing to take proper judicial action against RAB, successive Bangladeshi governments have effectively endorsed the force's claims and conduct and given it carte blanche to act with impunity. All we have seen from the current government are broken promises or worse, outright denial," said Abbas Faiz. In many cases the investigations blamed the victims, calling them criminals and portraying their deaths as justified even though available public evidence refuted that."The Bangladesh authorities must act now and take concrete steps to protect people from the alleged unlawful killings by their security forces .The government must ensure independent and impartial investigations into all suspected cases of extrajudicial executions and bring those responsible to justice."Bangladesh's police and RAB continue to receive a wide range of military and police equipment from overseas, including from Austria, Belgium, China, Czech Republic, Italy, Poland, Russia, Slovakia, Turkey and USA. In addition, diplomatic cables from the US Embassy in Dhaka, obtained and released by Wikileaks in December 2010 alleged that UK police had been training RAB officers. Amnesty International calls upon these countries to refrain from supplying arms to Bangladesh that will be used by RAB and other security forces to commit extrajudicial executions and other human rights violations. Any country that knowingly sends arms or other supplies to equip a force which systematically violates human rights may itself bear some responsibility for those violations.RAB was created in March 2004, to much public acclaim, as the government's response to a breakdown in law and order, particularly in western and central Bangladesh. Rajshahi, Khulna and Dhaka districts, armed criminal groups or powerful mercenary gangs colluded with local politicians to run smuggling rings or extort money from local people. Within months of its creation, RAB's operations were characterized by a pattern of killings portrayed by the authorities as `deaths in crossfire', many of which had the hallmarks of extrajudicial executions. They usually occurred in deserted locations after a suspect's arrest. In some cases, there were witnesses to the arrests, but RAB authorities maintained that victims had been killed by `crossfire', or in `shoot-outs' or `gunfights'. Bangladesh's two main political parties – the Bangladesh Nationalist Party and the Awami League – have shown no commitment to limiting the powers of RAB. In the first couple of months of coming to office, the Prime Minister spoke of a "zero tolerance" policy toward extrajudicial executions. Other government authorities repeated her pledge. These hopes were dashed in late 2009 when the authorities, including the Home Minister, began to claim that there were no extrajudicial executions in the country.Crimes unseen: Extrajudicial executions in Bangladesh: http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/ASA13/005/2011/en/c18ad74b-75fe-4b15-b043-5982eebdb27d/asa130052011en.pdf
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[ALOCHONA] Re: [BdOsInt Monitors] BSF kills 193 Bangladeshis since Jan 2009

You don't condemn these murders. If you did you would hold the government of the day accountable. No chance.

Bongu hypocrisy has crossed all the oceans.
Now fair New Zealand is stained with it too.

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Engr. Shafiq Bhuiyan" <srbanunz@...> wrote:
>
> I condemn these inhuman killings by Indian BSF in the border.
>
>
>
> But again condemning India for these inhuman killings – my questain why
> those (victims) fellow crossed or attempted to cross the Indian border
> illegally?
>
>
>
> I also want to know:
>
> 1. How many Bangalee were killed during last Jamat - BNP era by BSF
> around the Bangladesh - India border?
> 2. If yes, the why Jamat - BNP govt, their Ministers, leaders and their
> (overt and covert) supporters did not take any real action?
> 3. Did the number of such fatal incidents and casualties were less or
> more?
> 4. If number were more, then again why? And why Jamat - BNP govt, their
> Ministers, did not take any proper action?
> 5. Why Jamat BNP govt, their Ministers, leaders and their (overt and
> covert) supporters did not raised their strong and deafening voices and did
> not demonstrate any genuine serious concern and appropriate & practical
> action during their era - against these inhuman killings?
> 6. If number were less - then I strongly condemn present govt for
> improper actions to reduce it.
> 7. What is our problem (except those culprits - who are engaged in
> illegal "cross border smuggling" and "human trafficking") - if India erect
> barbed wire fence wall along border in their own land keeping appropriate
> distance from Bangladesh land?
> 8. Finally why we would support and sympathize to these illegal "cross
> border smugglers" and "human trafficking" agents?
>
> --
> "Sustha thakon, nirapade thakon ebong valo thakon"
>
> Shuvechhante,
>
> *Shafiqur Rahman Anu
> *
>
> N.B.: If any one is offended by content of this e-mail, please ignore &
> delete this e-mail. I also request you to inform me by an e- mail - to
> delete your name from my contact list.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Dhaka Mails <dhakamails@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Indian BSF kills 193 Bangladeshis since Jan 2009
> >
> > According to figures available with rights organisation Odhikar, 998
> > Bangladeshis were killed, 996 injured, 226 arrested, 957 abducted and 14
> > raped by BSF
> >
> > India's Border Security Force has killed 193 and inured 200 Bangladesh
> > citizens in the frontiers since January 6, 2009, when the Awami League-led
> > alliance assumed office.
> >
> > According to figures available with rights organisation Odhikar, 998
> > Bangladeshis were killed, 996 injured, 226 arrested, 957 abducted and 14
> > raped by BSF personnel or Indian hooligans and 107 went missing after being
> > attacked allegedly by them between January 1, 2000 and August 31, 2011.
> >
> > Of the victims, 75 were killed and 335 injured by the Indian civilians,
> > while the BSF soldiers were the perpetrators for the rest of the victims.
> >
> > Between January 6, 2009 and August 31, 2011, a total of 200 Bangladeshis
> > were killed, 215 injured, 74 abducted and a woman was raped in the
> > frontiers.Of the victims, 7 were killed and 15 injured by the Indian
> > civilians while others were made victim by the BSF, the Odhikar report says.
> >
> > The killing and other human rights violations by the BSF in the borders
> > still go unabated despite repeated pledges made by the Indian authorities
> > and calls by by different international organisations on the Indian
> > government to stop such human rights violations.
> >
> > New York-based Human Rights Watch in a statement on July 25 urged India to
> > take a speedy, fair and transparent criminal investigation into fresh
> > allegations of killings, torture and other abuses by the BSF in the border
> > with Bangladesh.
> >
> > The government of India should undertake a speedy, fair, and transparent
> > criminal investigation into fresh allegations of killings, torture, and
> > other abuses by the BSF in the border with Bangladesh, the statement said.
> >
> > The call had coincided with India's ruling alliance leader Sonia Gandhi's
> > brief tour of Dhaka to attend an international conference on autism.
> >
> > In December 2010, the Human Rights Watch released a report, `Trigger
> > Happy,' documenting extrajudicial killings, arbitrary detention, torture and
> > ill-treatment by the Indian border guards.
> >
> > After the release of the report, Indian authorities assured Bangladeshi
> > officials that such border killings would be stopped. The government
> > announced that it would order restraint and encourage the use of rubber
> > bullets instead of more lethal ammunition, the Human Rights Watch said in
> > Monday's statement.
> >
> > While the number of deaths by shooting has substantially decreased in 2011,
> > the Bangladeshi rights watchdog Odhikar documented at least 17 killings of
> > Bangladeshis by the BSF and other instances of severe abuse since January,
> > the statement said.Local groups have documented several cases of deaths as a
> > result of severe beatings by the BSF, the HRW said.
> >
> > The Odhikar secretary, Adilur Rahman Khan, on Tuesday told New Age that the
> > Bangladesh government must raise the issue during its formal talks with the
> > visiting Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh and formulate an effective
> > device to stop killing and other forms of human rights violations on the
> > frontiers by Indians, especially the BSF.
> >
> > http://newagebd.com/newspaper1/frontpage/32321.html
> >
> >
> >
>


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[ALOCHONA] Re: Why Bangladesh is very important to India

Of course no clear definition given below of what the malady is. If they define the malady in their own terms they will have to reveal their own biases :)

And what precisiely is the humanitarian effort that is suggested below? No definition of that either.

One thing about this class of political activist is that they hate to be pinned down and marked. They like to roam around free pretending to be neutral.


--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Farida Majid <farida_majid@...> wrote:
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> I suppose a diseased mind of one who babbles nonsense is a kind of "fact" of life.
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> But that should not compel us to live with the psychopaths without some humanitarian effort to cure their disease.
> We should be vigilant also about not getting infected by their malady.
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> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> From: shahadathussaini@...
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:45:27 -0400
> Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Why Bangladesh is very important to India
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> Probashi:
> Please keep doing what you are supposed to do to keep Bangladesh out of the Wolf. Please do not shy out. You know as well as I know that there are lot of activists who wants Bangladesh to be on the fold or lap of Hindutva Rule with akhand Bharat and wants Bangladeshis not to know the facts. They do not like facts. They are a miniscule minority with lots of persistence and are working since 1947. They will never succeed.
> Shahadat Suhrawardy
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> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
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> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 17:28:40 -0700
> Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Why Bangladesh is very important to India
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> what is the problem......zana is just reflecting on facts of life!!!!
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> we all know that and some of us try to keep these facts under the carpet.
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> khoda hafez.
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> From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@...>
> To: Alochona Alochona <alochona@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, 15 August 2011 2:27 AM
> Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Why Bangladesh is very important to India
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> Who the hell is this? Another Sunita Paul, an expert in South Asian affairs? Although it is true that India is fighting several separatist movements all over India and especially in the North-East, the talk of India wanting "unlimited access" into Bangladesh is a fruit of an overheated imbecile brain.
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> <<In recent years , India needed to have unlimited access into Bangladesh to punish, monitor and destroy all kinds of freedom movement from the north-east states of India including Chinese influence over them. Bangladesh blocks their view of monitoring and establishing domination of the central government. India needed Hasina and her BAL to fulfil their ability to control, monitor and establish Indian authority. Besides, India considers that they won Bangladesh in the Indo-Pak war.>> Let us try to diagnose the disease from which this moronic patient is suffering. Who habitually describes 1971 War of Liberation as Indo-Pak war? Where do we find the description of India's military assistance to Mukti fighters as India's 'winning' of Bangladesh in 1971? For answers to these questions look up the web site of Golam Azam of Jamaati Islam of Bangladesh.
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> You can fool some of the people some of the time. But you cannot fool all the people even for a brief period of a concocted article in the FaceBook.
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> From: bdmailer@...
> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:07:32 +0600
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Why Bangladesh is very important to India
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> Why Bangladesh is very important to IndiaZana Ghutekurani in FaceBookAfter the foundation of India and Pakistan, India became friend with USSR (& other leftist countries) and Pakistan became friend with China and USA . Need to mention that during that time USA had love-affair with middle eastern belt. Balanced power distribution, bipolar hegemony in imp for the peace process or negotiating power around the world. When USSR was unbroken, small countries had opportunity to negotiate and place its position.The Indo-Pak war (1971), which we call the war of independence (1971), the dissection of east wing from the west wing of Pakistan provided India with opportunity to establish its unipolar hegemony in this region. Thus , after 71, India did not require to look back. Specially after the killing of Khalistan movement India gained its absolute power in this region.Therefore, When India won in Indo-Pak war and occupied east wing , none of the friends of Pakistan (eg, USA , China) was happy, and did not want to recognise it as a sovereign state .After the breakdown of USSR, the dynamics in the global power distribution changed overnight. While in 1947, we witnessed bi-polar hegemony (USSR vs USA) the world begins its journey within uni-polar hegemony, and USA gained absolute power.And USA receive the opportunity to ask for anything, became a wild brat. This is very uncomfortable situation for many countries, for instance, right now the middle eastern countries are under fire. May be it will not be smarter to think that, the USA is fighting against terrorism. Note , one of the major OPEC pipe lines going via Afghanistan. ( Iraq had another one :).At present USA does not have good relation with China. USA has taken loans from China which it cannot pay back. Besides china owns many businesses in USA too. It is not good news for USA that china is becoming stronger day by day , thus threat to USA (This is why we hear that the China doesn't have democracy :P and the medias of USA are writing a lot on lack of democracy, human rights violation in China) .Now USA also needs India. Cheaper products, labour, IT/tech support etc are the plus points for USA to think India as their better recruit.From the Indian side, since the arrival of the Muslims, the proponents of the newly revived Hinduism (900 to 1300) was not very happy. The Muslims who were mostly middle Eastern, not only started to take powers in many places overthrowing recently established Hindu royalties but also brought a religion which many people started to adopt . Until the arrival of the European business people , the anti-Muslim feelings was not there , but it was produced and nurtured under the famous "divide and rule" theory of The British. The birth of India and Pakistan is the contribution of that anti-Muslim attitude.At current global situation, India's anti-muslim stand is expressed by liaison USA and also with Israel. Therefore, India became number a country to stand beside USA to assist it with spreading (USA) unipolar hegemony!Close India-Israel tie of India is also considered as anti-middle eastern or anti-Arab stand. We already know that the formation of Israel is criticised by the most Muslim countries around the globe. Thus , having 20 corer Muslims, having close tie with Israel India further clarify its anti-muslim(also anti-middle-east) stand .India is always interested to work on anything that will put Pakistan in disadvantaged condition and possible failure as a state. Not only India has its eyes on every inch of the land of Pakistani but taking opportunity to help USA and send its Army in Afghan is one step ahead of their expectation, which they never can think of losing.On the other hand, the relation between India and China relation was never good. The issues on Tibet and Kashmir , they have many disagreements. , Besides the emergence of leftists in the north-eastern side of India also makes it enemy of China.Recently ,the north-east part of India is experiencing agitation. Mostly the Indo-Tibetan and the Tibetan races live in that part . The cultures of that area which is distinct from the mainland India's culture also adds into this conflict. The influence of china there also is very important issue. The leftists parties have been able to influence people who are already disadvantaged and living in poverty.India needs immediate control over those areas. [Please note that to dominate those areas, India mainly use their Bengalis from the West Bengal]In recent years , India needed to have unlimited access into Bangladesh to punish, monitor and destroy all kinds of freedom movement from the north-east states of India including Chinese influence over them. Bangladesh blocks their view of monitoring and establishing domination of the central government. India needed Hasina and her BAL to fulfil their ability to control, monitor and establish Indian authority. Besides, India considers that they won Bangladesh in the Indo-Pak war.It is also suspicious why Bangladesh experience so much turmoil in establishing government from 2006 to 2007. It seems that, right now India's main goal is to establish a suitable situation, in which it can influence any party that comes into power (eg, BNP and BAL). BAL has its history of unquestionable loyalty towards India, after all it has helped India to ensure unipolar hegemony in this region.Now India may want other parties within the country to bargain with it in coming into power. It is considered that BAL had pre-election commitment with India long before election. Thus BAL is already India's pet.India seriously need to pet other parties too. However, India will abhor both leftist and the Islamist parties for simple reasons. Leftists because their support from China (Mao), and Islamists due to its religious stand and its support from the Middle-east.However, India is also in problematic situation in making friendship with BNP, one of the largest parties in Bangladesh. BNP has Bangladeshi `nationalism' which directly contradicts Indian interest to domesticate Bangladesh via its west Bengal citizens, it also is influenced by the Islamic countries and china which India does not like.If any leftist party , that is influenced by the leftists from the west Bengal, and also harbour strong ethnic identity as "Bengal" might also serve India's purpose, though the leftists influenced by China will not be quite expected for India to build friendship.If India does not have plan to make Bangladesh another Kashmir, It will need to find more friends in Bangladesh. BAL and many of her followers have already opened their hearts , given themselves under the feet of Bharat Mata, now let us see who else India can manage her total access into Bangladesh in future to maintain its status in this region and free its north-eatsrern side from the chinese(leftist) influence.
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FW: [ALOCHONA] Re: And now Modon Mohon Das

You haven't called me a great disseminator of communalism directly yet. But I am calling you a great disseminator of AL hypocrisy. Directly.

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Farida Majid <farida_majid@...> wrote:
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> A pattern emerging . . . I don't know what to make of it. Perhaps someone else has a better idea. The great disseminators of communalism in ALOCNONA should be ready with a commentary.
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> Farida Majid
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> To:
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> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:30:58 +0600
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: And now Modon Mohon Das
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> And now Roton Kumar Pal
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> http://www.amadershomoy1.com/content/2011/08/10/news0740.htm
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> On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Isha Khan <bdmailer@...> wrote:
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> And now Bhajan Kumar Shikdar
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> http://www.thedailysangbad.com/?view=details&type=gold&data=Car&pub_no=795&menu_id=13&news_type_id=1&val=74513
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> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Isha Khan <bdmailer@...> wrote:
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> And now Modon Mohon Dashttp://dailynayadiganta.com/2011/07/31/fullnews.asp?News_ID=291537&sec=1
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[ALOCHONA] Re: Violation of human rights in police custody rampant

But the more important thing, according to our AL hypocrites, is that our Home Minister does not wear make up or know how to use a commode - this is more important than police brutality.

Bongu hypocrites. We should record stories of them and send into the stars with the next time capsule. Bongu grade hypocrisy should be the subject of study for civilisations in distant galaxies. We should do it soon - before we screw ourselves into the sea.

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Isha Khan <bdmailer@...> wrote:
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> Violation of human rights in police custody rampant
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> Md Abdul Kader, a student of Dhaka University,was too injured to move alone
> because of police torture and he had to beproduced before a High Court bench
> on a wheel chair on July 28.In the court, Kader described how police
> tortured himbrutally in custody, violating human rights (HR).
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> In fact, violation of human rights in police custody hasbecome a regular
> phenomenon in the country, ignoring a HC judgment passed eightyears ago. The
> constitutional and the international covenantal safeguards toprevent torture
> are also being violated in the police custody, according tolegal
> experts.Experts blamed the high ups of the state for consideringthemselves
> above law and such disregard for law is slowly leading the countryto a
> failed state.
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> Under Section 167 of the Code of Criminal Procedure (CrPC),police take
> accused persons under its custody to extract information. Due toabuse of the
> law, the detained persons fall victim to physical and mentaltorture in
> custody. Many died failing to bear the torture.
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> Ain O Shalish Kendra (ASK), a human rights body, recordedthe death of 68
> persons in jail custody in 2008, 58 in 2009 and 20 in 2010.
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> According to Odhikar, another human rights body, 852 personsdied at the hand
> of law enforcers from January, 2004 to May, 2010. Of them, 420persons died
> under police custody and 364 under RAB custody. They died incrossfire,
> encounter and police custody, said Odhikar report.
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>
> It also recorded 84 deaths in custody in the first sixmonths of this year.
> Of them, 61 persons died in jail. A sick 18- month oldchild was also kept
> with her mother in prison, where she died within 12 daysdue to lack of
> treatment. Nine persons were allegedly tortured to death bypolice during the
> period, Odhikar report said.
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> To stop any torture or degrading treatment in policecustody, the HC in a
> landmark verdict on April 7, 2003 gave 15-pointdirections, ordering to
> interrogate detainees in glass-partitioned room inpresence of their lawyers
> and relatives so that they can see what is happeninginside, said concerned
> lawyers.Until such rooms are constructed, they (detainees) wouldhave to be
> interrogated in a room of jail, the judgment said.
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>
> A HC bench comprising Justice Md Hamidul Haque and JusticeSalma Masud
> Chowdhury delivered the judgment upon a Public Interest Litigation(PIL)
> filed by Bangladesh Legal Aid and Services Trust (BLAST) and others
> inNovember 1998.
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> The judgment found two sections of CrPC regarding arrest andinterrogation
> inconsistent with the constitution. It directed to bring somerecommended
> changes to the law within six months and implement the 15-pointdirectives
> immediately.
>
>
> Later, the government appealed against the judgment andsecured stay on
> operation of the recommendation, not the 15-point directions.As a result,
> the directions remain in force, Advocate Md Idrisur Rahman, one ofthe
> lawyers for the petitioners in the case, said.
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>
> The Appellate Division of the Supreme Court (SC) ordered thegovernment to
> carry out the 15-point directions literally, Advocate
> Rahmanadded.Unfortunately, the directions have remained ignored for thelast
> eight years depriving the people of justice ensured by the higher courtand
> giving a chance for police to torture people in custody, said IdrisurRahman.
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>
> When contacted last week, Home Secretary Abdus SobhanSikder, one of the
> respondents directed to comply with the directions, saiddetainees are not
> interrogated inside the jail, rather outside places includingpolice
> stations. Some of them are quizzed at the gate of jail only when
> courtsordered to do so, he added.
>
>
> However, the home secretary could not confirm whether anyglass-walled house
> was built in the country.
>
> According to the directives, remanded persons must bechecked before and
> after interrogation to know their physical condition. If anyevidence of
> torture was found, magistrates will take legal action againstconcerned
> police members under section 330 of Penal Code.
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> A study by BLAST in 2007 revealed that all the 17magistrates interviewed
> said police normally never submit such medicalcertificates.Torture in police
> custody is violation of not only the HCdirections but also the human rights
> protected in Article 35 of the country'sconstitution and some international
> covenants, which the government ratifiedand obliged to follow.
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> The international HR safeguards include Article 5 of UnitedNations
> Declaration of Human Rights (UNDHR), Article 7 of InternationalCovenant on
> Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) and UN Convention againstTorture and
> other Cruel, Inhuman and Degrading Treatment (UNCAT).
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>
> Advocate Dr Shahdeen Malik said the accused including thelawyers were
> regularly being tortured and also killed in police custody intotal disregard
> of the 2003 judgment, the constitution and laws.Mentioning recommendation of
> a minister to issue drivinglicense without examination, Dr Shahdeen Malik
> said, "When the stateconsiders itself above law, the society becomes
> lawless." The lawenforcers are left with nothing to do when the society and
> the policy makersdon't abide by law, he added.
>
>
> "With continuous disobeying of law, the country isclearly and may be slowly
> moving to a failed one," Dr Malik added.
>
> Advocate Idrisur Rahman said police were abusing the section167 of CrPC at
> will. Firstly the magistrates violated the HC directions indelivering
> remand-related orders, he said, stressing on a joint effort of
> thegovernment, law enforcers and judges for implementing the directions
> properlyin the interest of the people.
>
>
> Chairman of National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) Prof DrMizanur Rahman
> appearing before a HC bench on July 28 said the incident oftorture on DU
> student Abdul Kadar was an example of the nature and behaviour oflaw
> enforcing agencies and their treatment in custody.
>
>
> During hearing on Kadar's bail petition at a Dhaka judge court recently,
> former Law Minister Advocate AbdulMatin Khasru MP said police dress didn't
> suit to the miscreants (torturerpolice members).
>
> http://thenewnationbd.com/newsdetails.aspx?newsid=15151
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Re: [mukto-mona] Bangladesh Wins Freedom



In any case, Jogen Mondal being foolish or not, the Hindus that he represented, and the other Hindus and non-Hindus that he did not necessarily represent, had a birthright on the land. For Bangladesh to be an honorable and decent nation, it necessarily has to separate Islam from the business of the state, and treat all religious groups with equal respect.


>>>>>>> While I agree with the spirit of the statement you made ( Hindus have a birth right to be treated with fairness in Bangladesh). I don't think Islam is the problem here. Rather some greedy Muslims. It may amuse you to know that, Allah (SWT) even spoke about hypocrites who speak about Allah (SWT) and Islam but ONLY work for his/her own interest in several places.

My "Personal" opinion is Islam has a solution for all people ( Even those who do not practice Islam). Over the history Islam has shown how they can be protected without sacrificing ideals of Islam. Let me share a verse from The noble Qur'an...

And there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book, but (see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture. Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.

[ Source: The noble Qur'an (English by Yusuf Ali) chapter 2:78-79]

Also Hadith Al-Qudsi spoke about hypocrites who claims to be Muslims but Allah (SWT) knows what is in their hearts..


Hadith Qudsi 6:

On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) say:

The first of people against whom judgment will be pronounced on the Day of Resurrection will be a man who died a martyr. He will be brought and Allah will make known to him His favours and he will recognize them. [ The Almighty] will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I fought for you until I died a martyr. He will say: You have lied - you did but fight that it might be said [of you]: He is courageous. And so it was said. Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast into Hell-fire.

[Another] will be a man who has studied [religious] knowledge and has taught it and who used to recite the Quran. He will be brought and Allah will make known to his His favours and he will recognize them. [The Almighty] will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I studied [religious] knowledge and I taught it and I recited the Quran for Your sake. He will say: You have lied - you did but study [religious] knowledge that it might be said [of you]: He is learned. And you recited the Quran that it might be said [of you]: He is a reciter. And so it was said. Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast into Hell-fire.

[Another] will be a man whom Allah had made rich and to whom He had given all kinds of wealth. He will be brought and Allah will make known to his His favours and he will recognize them. [The Almighty] will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I left no path [untrodden] in which You like money to be spent without spending in it for Your sake. He will say: You have lied - you did but do so that it might be said [of you]: He is open-handed. And so it was said. Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast into Hell-fire.
It was related by Muslim (also by at-Tirmidhi and an-Nasa'i).

I am only sharing these Islamic scriptures, so you understand that our Maker knows our nature no matter how much some of us tries to hide it from the mass. He also gave clear instructions about hypocrites and those who abuse the name Islam to promote their own interests instead of serving humankind.

The bottom line is you are welcome to agree or disagree. However in order to judge Islam ( Or any religion for that matter), we need to study authentic history and scriptures of that religion. Just like we cannot study Christianity by looking at Hitler ( We need to study the Bible).

Unfortunately most people in Bangladesh are not well educated about Islam. They often follow some social practices and superstitions thinking it is Islam but often we see there is a difference between practice and what Islam says.

While I do understand where you are coming from ( From your experience with religion). I look at it a little differently. I think we (Muslims of Bangladesh) are often bad examples of Islam. Therefore, it would be fair to judge Islam based of it's authentic teaching than taking some political organizations as a representative of this global faith. Lastly I like to share what prophet Muhammad (PBUH) sanctioned for Christians of his time. Which will show that, even 1400 years ago Islam gave rights and privileges to non-Muslims along with Muslims.

PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S
CHARTER OF PRIVILEGES TO CHRISTIANS
LETTER TO THE MONKS OF ST. CATHERINE MONASTERY

In 628 C.E. Prophet Muhammad (s) granted a Charter of Privileges to the monks of St. Catherine Monastery in Mt. Sinai. It consisted of several clauses covering all aspects of human rights including such topics as the protection of Christians, freedom of worship and movement, freedom to appoint their own judges and to own and maintain their property, exemption from military service, and the right to protection in war.
An English translation of that document is presented below.

This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them.
Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them.
No compulsion is to be on them.
Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries.
No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses.
Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God's covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate.
No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight.
The Muslims are to fight for them.
If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray.
Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants.
No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world).

This charter of privileges has been honored and faithfully applied by Muslims throughout the centuries in all lands they ruled.

 

Shalom!!


-----Original Message-----
From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 27, 2011 5:04 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Bangladesh Wins Freedom

 
The fact that Jinnah made Jogen Mondal a cabinet minister of Pakistan is evidence enough for me to accept that the latter's support was important for a bigger East Bengal to be included in Pakistan. If Jinnah was alive for a bit longer, chances are that the Hindus of East Bengal would not have gotten marginalized in their motherland as fast as they did. Although I believe that Jinnah's game of using Muslim brotherhood for his personal supreme leadership clout in a sovereign country (Pakistan) would have ultimately led Pakistan to what it is today.
 
Indeed there are reasons for Hindus, especially the so-called scheduled caste Hindus, to be angry with Jogen Mondal. That is why I call him Jogen Chandal, even when I think that the caste system is the greatest stupidity in the Hindu religion/culture. I denigrate him, because he was foolish enough to fall for the false sense of security for his people in an absurd country that was being formed based mostly upon hatred. His foolishness got proven so fast that even he himself had to flee to India.
 
In any case, Jogen Mondal being foolish or not, the Hindus that he represented, and the other Hindus and non-Hindus that he did not necessarily represent, had a birthright on the land. For Bangladesh to be an honorable and decent nation, it necessarily has to separate Islam from the business of the state, and treat all religious groups with equal respect.
 
Sukhamaya Bain

From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Bangladesh Wins Freedom

"- a major portion of Bangladesh would have been with India without Jogen Mondal's vote."----Jiten Roy
 
That's what we have heard from our parents and others during our childhood. Was Muslim League so stupid that they would let 'major portion' of Bengal go with India even if Jogen Mondal did not support Jinnah? What about Radcliffe's scissors that decidedly cut the map of Bengal almost illogically. Did Radcliffe really care much about what Jogen Mondal had done? I need more specific information to continue to believe the myth (or fact) that was injected into my head in my childhood.
There are reasons for Hindus to be angry with Jogen Mondal. Capitalizing on the tension that prevailed in the relations between caste Hindus and scheduled caste Hindus, Jinnah was successful in having him on his side. Jinnah kept his promise. He made him a central minister. But irony is that he had to flee Pakistan and take shelter in a country for which he had not voted. We know Suhrawardy faced similar fate. Even there is a complaint that he was responsible for Kolkata riots and he did it in support of Jinnah's Two-Nation Theory. New facts are emerging to challenge the traditional history.

 




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[ALOCHONA] Re: trial of 1971 killing

Because AL has no idea of how to run the country, the only thing they can do to show their supporters is TRIAL. This trial that trial and every trial will be on the agenda for entire 5 years. If they fenagle into another election win, this trial will continue for another 5 years.

Trials are the only way AL can divert people's attention from real governance, and Indian chapabaji. So, dont pray for an early close to these "trials", if you are an AL supporter pray for 10 more years of trials.


--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, probashi M <meghna1900@...> wrote:
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> One of the electoral pledges that led to Awami League's landslide victory in the 2008 election has been the trial of war criminals.

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[ALOCHONA] Re: Indian BSF kills 193 Bangladeshis since Jan 2009

The closet AL supporters on this board will not and cannot complain about this. If an Indian asked them why this is happening such Deshis would come up with better explanations than most Indians!

Only Bongus can be so screw dillah.

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Isha Khan <bdmailer@...> wrote:
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> Indian BSF kills 193 Bangladeshis since Jan 2009
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> According to figures available with rights organisation Odhikar, 998
> Bangladeshis were killed, 996 injured, 226 arrested, 957 abducted and 14
> raped by BSF
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> India's Border Security Force has killed 193 and inured 200 Bangladesh
> citizens in the frontiers since January 6, 2009, when the Awami League-led
> alliance assumed office.
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> According to figures available with rights organisation Odhikar, 998
> Bangladeshis were killed, 996 injured, 226 arrested, 957 abducted and 14
> raped by BSF personnel or Indian hooligans and 107 went missing after being
> attacked allegedly by them between January 1, 2000 and August 31, 2011.
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> Of the victims, 75 were killed and 335 injured by the Indian civilians,
> while the BSF soldiers were the perpetrators for the rest of the victims.
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> Between January 6, 2009 and August 31, 2011, a total of 200 Bangladeshis
> were killed, 215 injured, 74 abducted and a woman was raped in the
> frontiers.Of the victims, 7 were killed and 15 injured by the Indian
> civilians while others were made victim by the BSF, the Odhikar report says.
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> The killing and other human rights violations by the BSF in the borders
> still go unabated despite repeated pledges made by the Indian authorities
> and calls by by different international organisations on the Indian
> government to stop such human rights violations.
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> New York-based Human Rights Watch in a statement on July 25 urged India to
> take a speedy, fair and transparent criminal investigation into fresh
> allegations of killings, torture and other abuses by the BSF in the border
> with Bangladesh.
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> The government of India should undertake a speedy, fair, and transparent
> criminal investigation into fresh allegations of killings, torture, and
> other abuses by the BSF in the border with Bangladesh, the statement said.
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> The call had coincided with India's ruling alliance leader Sonia Gandhi's
> brief tour of Dhaka to attend an international conference on autism.
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> In December 2010, the Human Rights Watch released a report, `Trigger Happy,'
> documenting extrajudicial killings, arbitrary detention, torture and
> ill-treatment by the Indian border guards.
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> After the release of the report, Indian authorities assured Bangladeshi
> officials that such border killings would be stopped. The government
> announced that it would order restraint and encourage the use of rubber
> bullets instead of more lethal ammunition, the Human Rights Watch said in
> Monday's statement.
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> While the number of deaths by shooting has substantially decreased in 2011,
> the Bangladeshi rights watchdog Odhikar documented at least 17 killings of
> Bangladeshis by the BSF and other instances of severe abuse since January,
> the statement said.Local groups have documented several cases of deaths as a
> result of severe beatings by the BSF, the HRW said.
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> The Odhikar secretary, Adilur Rahman Khan, on Tuesday told New Age that the
> Bangladesh government must raise the issue during its formal talks with the
> visiting Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh and formulate an effective
> device to stop killing and other forms of human rights violations on the
> frontiers by Indians, especially the BSF.
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> http://newagebd.com/newspaper1/frontpage/32321.html
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[ALOCHONA] Re: FW: 'People Don't Realize How Fragile Democracy Really Is'

Farida probably loves the truth-out organisation (she should) but only as long as it does not attack the political establishment of Bangladesh under an AL government.

We need to organise people who think like truth-out and take on our hypocritical politcial classes.

Hmmm....

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Farida Majid <farida_majid@...> wrote:
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> Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the Cult
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> http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/09/people-dont-realize-how-fragile-democracy-really-is/244559/
> 'People Don't Realize How Fragile Democracy Really Is'
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[ALOCHONA] Re: Mo Kha Alamgir's bank

The government wants more AL supporters and AL businessmen to open banks to redress the perceived imbalance with BNP.

Its called democracy - Bongu style.

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Isha Khan <bdmailer@...> wrote:
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> *Mo Kha Alamgir's bank*
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> </imgres?imgurl=http://www.comillaweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/mo-kha-alamgir1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.comillaweb.com/2010/09/26/6426/&usg=__8eWHwRZhVbp8eEjPCSy2G_2EaKg=&h=234&w=200&sz=22&hl=en&start=3&zoom=1&tbnid=M4LRx0oVoRcIRM:&tbnh=109&tbnw=93&ei=1ZdUTtaWKMKGrAfI8P2uDg&prev=/search%3Fq%3DMo%2BKha%2BAlamgir%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26rlz%3D1T4GGLL_enBD391BD391%26tbm%3Disch%26prmd%3Divnso&itbs=1>
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> http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-08-24/news/180768
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> He is still MP?
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> http://www.prothom-alo.com/detail/date/2011-08-24/news/180727
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