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Re: [mukto-mona] Al-Qaeda Attack Survivor Says Quran Makes Her 'Such a Good Atheist'



One actually would not need to be attacked by a religious terrorist to turn into an atheist. Reading the so-called holy books that claim to contain the words and wishes of the so-called all-knowing almighty and applying human common sense on them would do it.

SuBain

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On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:22 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/10/11/al-qaeda-attack-survivor-says-quran-makes-her-such-a-good-atheist/
Al-Qaeda Attack Survivor Says Quran Makes Her 'Such a Good Atheist'
By Bridget Johnson October 11, 2016
Al-Qaeda Attack Survivor Says Quran Makes Her 'Such a Good Atheist'
Avijit Roy and Rafida Bonya Ahmed
A survivor of a 2015 machete attack by al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent told a conference in Pittsburgh this past weekend that she only has to read the Quran to confirm her atheism.
In February 2015, Bangladeshi-American secularist blogger Avijit Roy was hacked to death on a Dhaka street. "The target was an American citizen.. 2 in 1. #America recently martyred 2 of our brothers in #Khurasan & #Shaam. #Revenge+#Punishment," Ansar al-Islam Bangladesh tweeted afterward.
Roy and his wife, Rafida Bonya Ahmed, lived in suburban Atlanta and were visiting Bangladesh for a month.
"I am a Bangladeshi American writer, blogger and also one of the moderators of the Bengali blog Muktomona – which is the first freethinking blog in the Bengali language," Ahmed said while accepting the "Forward" award from the Freedom From Religion Foundation. "My late husband Dr. Avijit Roy founded this online platform in 2001 as a Yahoo forum, way before the very, very noisy days of blogging."
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"My husband and I were attacked by the Indian Subcontinent [branch] of al-Qaeda, on Feb. 26, 2015, when we were visiting Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh, for a book signing event," she said. "This claimed Avijit's life and I barely escaped… I suffered four machete stabs on my head, a sliced-off thumb, and numerous other injuries all over my body."
"What was our fault? Avi and I were, are atheists, blogger, writer, and above all secular humanists. Avijit wrote and edited 10 books... two of his books titled Philosophy of Disbelief and Virus of Faith, they made him exceedingly popular among young adults and progressive readers."
But those titles, Ahmed said, "also fueled hostility and anger towards Avijit from religious fundamentalists."
"The online blogging platform Muktomona also became the name of a secular humanist movement for Bangla-speaking people. I wrote a book on evolution and wrote many other blogs," she added. "I guess that would be it -- a pretty good summary of our crimes in the eyes of the Islamic terrorist groups."




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[mukto-mona] A Pakistani Christian mother facing execution for bogus blasphemy



Not sure why West is not imposing sanctions on Pakistan and Pakistanis? Easy way to target an infidel and his/her family? Islamic justice?


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[mukto-mona] Al-Qaeda Attack Survivor Says Quran Makes Her 'Such a Good Atheist'




https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/10/11/al-qaeda-attack-survivor-says-quran-makes-her-such-a-good-atheist/
Al-Qaeda Attack Survivor Says Quran Makes Her 'Such a Good Atheist'
By Bridget Johnson October 11, 2016
Al-Qaeda Attack Survivor Says Quran Makes Her 'Such a Good Atheist'
Avijit Roy and Rafida Bonya Ahmed
A survivor of a 2015 machete attack by al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent told a conference in Pittsburgh this past weekend that she only has to read the Quran to confirm her atheism.
In February 2015, Bangladeshi-American secularist blogger Avijit Roy was hacked to death on a Dhaka street. "The target was an American citizen.. 2 in 1. #America recently martyred 2 of our brothers in #Khurasan & #Shaam. #Revenge+#Punishment," Ansar al-Islam Bangladesh tweeted afterward.
Roy and his wife, Rafida Bonya Ahmed, lived in suburban Atlanta and were visiting Bangladesh for a month.
"I am a Bangladeshi American writer, blogger and also one of the moderators of the Bengali blog Muktomona – which is the first freethinking blog in the Bengali language," Ahmed said while accepting the "Forward" award from the Freedom From Religion Foundation. "My late husband Dr. Avijit Roy founded this online platform in 2001 as a Yahoo forum, way before the very, very noisy days of blogging."
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"My husband and I were attacked by the Indian Subcontinent [branch] of al-Qaeda, on Feb. 26, 2015, when we were visiting Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh, for a book signing event," she said. "This claimed Avijit's life and I barely escaped… I suffered four machete stabs on my head, a sliced-off thumb, and numerous other injuries all over my body."
"What was our fault? Avi and I were, are atheists, blogger, writer, and above all secular humanists. Avijit wrote and edited 10 books... two of his books titled Philosophy of Disbelief and Virus of Faith, they made him exceedingly popular among young adults and progressive readers."
But those titles, Ahmed said, "also fueled hostility and anger towards Avijit from religious fundamentalists."
"The online blogging platform Muktomona also became the name of a secular humanist movement for Bangla-speaking people. I wrote a book on evolution and wrote many other blogs," she added. "I guess that would be it -- a pretty good summary of our crimes in the eyes of the Islamic terrorist groups."


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[mukto-mona] Ghana To Remove Gandhi Statue



Ghana To Remove Gandhi Statue Because Of His 'Alleged Racism'

Students argue that Gandhi made comments that were racist about Africans and that statues on the Accra campus should be of African heroes.

10/12/2016 12:23 pm ET
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Thursday, Sept. 22, 2016 photo shows a statue of Indian independence leader Mohandas Gandhi in Accra, Ghana, Ghana has expressed its intention to remove a statue of Indian independence leader Mohandas Gandhi from a university in the capital, citing a controversy over what critics call his "racist identity."

Ghana will move a statue of Mahatma Gandhi from its main university because of his "alleged past racist comments", the foreign ministry said, while paying tribute to Gandhi's role as a civil rights leader.

A group of lecturers and students began campaigning for the Indian nationalist leader's statue to be removed shortly after it was installed at the university in June as a symbol of friendship between Ghana and India. They argue that Gandhi made comments that were racist about Africans and that statues on the Accra campus should be of African heroes.

In a statement late on Thursday, the ministry said it was concerned by the acrimony the campaign had generated.

"The government would therefore want to relocate the statue from the University of Ghana to ensure its safety and to avoid the controversy ... being a distraction (from) our strong ties of friendship," it said.

Noting that Gandhi had inspired movements for civil rights and freedom across the world, the statement urged Ghanaians to "look beyond the comments attributed to ... Gandhi and acknowledge his role as one of the most outstanding personalities of the last century."

A senior Indian diplomat said the ministry's "very good statement" had sought to set the life and work of the advocate of peaceful resistance in a broader context and that the statue would be moved from the university to a safer place.

Amar Sinha also told reporters in New Delhi the two governments had discussed the debate over Gandhi that had flared in Ghana and South Africa.

He said comments interpreted by some as racist had been made relatively early in the life of the Indian protest leader.

India's struggle against British colonialism under Gandhi was an inspiration to a generation of African independence leaders, including Ghana's Kwame Nkrumah, who in 1957 managed to persuade British authorities to grant Ghana independence ― one of the first African nations to get it.

Gandhi lived in South Africa at the turn of the 20th century, where he campaigned for rights for the descendents of Indian indentured laborers brought there to work sugar plantations in its northeast Natal province, now KwaZulu-Natal.

Although his philosophy of peaceful protest would later inspire the African National Congress in its resistance to white Apartheid rule, historians say Gandhi himself was no believer in equality between races, at least not earlier in his career.

In his book, Gandhi: the True Man Behind Modern India, broadcaster Jad Adams quotes him as referring to black people as "kaffirs", a deeply offensive term, in a speech in 1896:

"Ours is one continual struggle against a degradation sought to be inflicted upon us by the Europeans, who desire to degrade us to the level of the raw kaffir," he quotes him as saying.

"And whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy his wife with and then pass his life in indolence and nakedness."

He later seems to have changed his views, saying stereotypes of Africans as "barbarians" are wrong, the author writes.

(Reporting by Tim Cocks; Additional reporting by Douglas Busvine in New Delhi; Editing by Catherine Evans)

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Talk:Thomas Babington Macaulay, 1st Baron Macaulay 

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[mukto-mona] IS defectors looking for safe homes in Europe and US



EU, US and other countries should not be fooled by these thugs for the second time. If these people ever come back, put these animals in jails rather than giving free tax-payers funded therapies. They won't change. 


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RE: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} Forum Discipline // PFC-Friends



"My savior is Satan. Even your Allah is scared of him!!"- By Muhammad Asghar.

 

 

Wow! This is the real answer for Razzak Mullah.

 

 

KC

 

 

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My savior is Satan. Even your Allah is scared of him!!

 

 

 

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Wow 😳😳😳😳, Blue blooded Insane, Certifying the believers who didn't know his biological parents, until his human sense were grown, 

Watch yourself in the mirror when you wake up n before you go to bed and ask yourself where n how your soul passed these durations? What could happen, if you wouldn't wake up? Where would be your affiliates? Would they be your saviours? 

 

None can escape it. Don't waste your valuable time for money, either or your financier God father wouldn't be save themselves nor you.

Razzak A. Syed

 

 

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On 12 Oct. 2016, at 12:29 am, Shah DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:

I bet, captain is ready to see Mr. Bagdadhi being exterminated by a hell-fire missile.... now that Maulana Osama is having fun in the heaven? We love to see these cousins die as miserably as possible if captain has no love for them? Can captain volunteer for the job as a soldier or the man is having a soft heart for these muzahedins??

 

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 10:45 PM, Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com> wrote:

They are your cousins too, aren't they?

 Razzak A. Syed

 

 

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"You bunch DH and hypocrites living on funding from the anti Islamic fanatics, who are always follo wing the Devils."- Capt. Razzak.

 

Are you being funded by the Islamic fanatics, such as ISIS and Boko Haram, to defend Islam and its inane precepts?

 

 

 

Mohammad Asghar

 

 

 

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Your faces are open now. You bunch DH and hypocrites living on funding from the anti Islamic fanatics, who are always following the Devils. 

 

When Allah's wraths will come, your Devil lord will desert you, as he did during the first battle of 'Badar', if you remember his word  "what you see, I can see, but what I can see, you can't see. I also fear Allah(SWT) & I never can go against his will."

It's obvious, none of us were there, but you may ask your ancestors like Abu Zahel or Abu Lahaab

Razzak A. Syed

 

 

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On 11 Oct. 2016, at 10:51 am, Khurshed Chowdhury <chowdhuryk@gmail.com> wrote:

 

"It's not worth to argue with irrational personal who's attitude is like Nekre Kukur, never stops playing the same songs. Whom Allah guides, will be guided, whom he doesn't, none can. 

Better leave with Allah(SWT), soon will realise, because none knows when the last breath will be."
Razzak A. Syed

 

 

Folks:

 

This is the identity of Capt. Razzaak who believes in Islam blindly and he considers Koran is true like gold! But, Capt. Razzak is utterly ignorant (so called) Muslim who not only does not know anything about the Koran and islam; he also highly ignorant about the origins of various human names in the world. He should be ashamed of his utter ignorance. He has no idea how names were originated in the various parts of the world. I asked him to give me the meaning or justifications of the # 19 in Koran. But, he is not giving me that silly # 19 which I will prove a bogus thing only. Koran is full of contradictions and errors of all types. I will bring the subject later in this forum.  Thanks.

 

KAC

 

 

 

 

 



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[mukto-mona] Outcome of the Islamic conference in Grozny



The conference did more: it declared that Salafis are not Sunnis.

In fact, the conference agenda was to define what or who comprise Ahl al-Sunnah wa-al-Jama'ah. The final communiqué stated that Sufis, Ash'aris, and Maturidis are all part of Ahl al-Sunnah wa-al-Jama'ah. The Saudis have traditionally railed against these groups placing them outside the fold of Islam. Now the shoe was on the other foot. There was very strong reaction from the Saudi court preachers. How dare anyone, especially the alims of al-Azhar who were present in large numbers at the conference, show such ingratitude when the Saudis have not only funded al-Azhar but also shored up the Egyptian regime? <<<


http://www.crescent-online.net/.../outcome-of-the-islamic...

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http://www.ibtimes.com/oil-prices-2016-saudi-arabia-cuts-oil-egypt-2429556
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Saudi Aramco has halted the shipment of refined oil products to Egypt, possibly over political disputes.

Oil Prices 2016: Saudi Arabia Cuts Off Oil To Egypt



From: Mayraj Fahim <fmayraj@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 5:55 PM
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"With the prolonged decline in oil revenues, the stakes for ensuring stability and continued financial flows both into the Gulf, and the profitability of ventures flowing out of the Gulf, are high. "


Gulf states are torn between economic sense and military ambition




"If their final communique was any indicator, the group of distinguished scholars had a very particular message for the Muslim world: Wahhabism - and its associated takfirism - are no longer welcome within the Sunni fold. Specifically, the conference's closing statement says this:
 
"Ash'arites and the Maturidi are the people of Sunnism and those who belong to the Sunni community, both at the level of the doctrine and of the four schools of Sunni jurisprudence (Hanafi, Hanbali, Shafi'i, Maliki), as well as Sufis, both in terms of knowledge and moral ethics."
 
In one fell swoop, Wahhabism, the official state religion of only two Muslim countries -Saudi Arabia and Qatar - was not part of the majority Muslim agenda any longer.

The backlash from the Saudis came hard and fast, honing in on the participation of Egypt's Grand Imam Ahmed al-Tayeb of Al Azhar, the foremost center for Sunni theological study in the Islamic world."

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Saudi Arabia has, after all, subsidized the flailing Egyptian economy to the tune of billions of dollars in the past few years, alongside its Wahhabi neighbor Qatar, which has in turn bank-rolled the Muslim Brotherhood – a group also excluded from the Grozny meeting.While Tayeb did not single out the Saudis in his conference speech, his elevated position in the global Sunni hierarchy lent a great deal of weight to the proceedings. And Al Azhar's prominence in the Sunni world is rivaled only by the relatively new role of the Al Saud monarch as the custodian of the two holy sites, Mecca and Medina.Just last year – in Mecca, no less - Tayeb slammed extremist trends during a speech on terrorism, lashing out at "corrupt interpretations" of religious texts and appealing to believers "to tackle in our schools and universities this tendency to accuse Muslims of being unbelievers."
It is Wahhabism that is most often accused of sponsoring this trend globally. The radical sect, borne in the 18thcentury, deviates from traditional Sunni doctrine in various ways, most notably sanctioning violence against nonbelievers - including Muslims who reject Wahhabi interpretation (takfirism).
Saudi Arabia is the single largest state contributor to tens of thousands of Wahhabi-influenced mosques, schools, clerics and Islamic publications scattered throughout the Muslim world – many of them, today, feeders for terrorist recruitment. By some accounts that figure has reached almost $100 billion in the last three decades or so. In Grozny, conference participants made reference to this dangerous trend, and called for a "return to the schools of great knowledge" outside Saudi Arabia – in Egypt, Morocco, Tunisia and Yemen."

The House of Saud's Journey to the Islamic Desert














For the first time, Saudi Arabia is being attacked by both Sunni and Shia leaders

What, the Saudis must be asking themselves, has happened to the fawning leaders who would normally grovel to the Kingdom?









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hajj-5.jpg Iran boycotted the Hajj, the Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca, this year after rising tensions between the nations AP
The Saudis step deeper into trouble almost by the week. Swamped in their ridiculous war in Yemen, they are now reeling from an extraordinary statement issued by around two hundred Sunni Muslim clerics who effectively referred to the Wahhabi belief – practiced in Saudi Arabia – as "a dangerous deformation" of SunniIslam. The prelates included Egypt's Grand Imam, Ahmed el-Tayeb of al-Azhar, the most important centre of theological study in the Islamic world, who only a year ago attacked "corrupt interpretations" of religious texts and who has now signed up to "a return to the schools of great knowledge" outside Saudi Arabia.
This remarkable meeting took place in Grozny and was unaccountably ignored by almost every media in the world – except for the former senior associate at St Antony's College, Sharmine Narwani, and Le Monde's Benjamin Barthe – but it may prove to be even more dramatic than the terror of Syria's civil war. For the statement, obviously approved by Vladimir Putin, is as close as Sunni clerics have got to excommunicating the Saudis. 
Although they did not mention the Kingdom by name, the declaration was a stunning affront to a country which spends millions of dollars every year on thousands of Wahhabi mosques, schools and clerics around the world.
Wahhabism's most dangerous deviation, in the eyes of the Sunnis who met in Chechenya, is that it sanctions violence against non-believers, including Muslims who reject Wahhabi interpretation. Isisal-Qaeda and the Taliban are the principal foreign adherents to this creed outside Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
The Saudis, needless to say, repeatedly insist that they are against all terrorism. Their reaction to the Grozny declaration has been astonishing. "The world is getting ready to burn us," Adil Al-Kalbani announced. And as Imam of the King Khaled Bin Abdulaziz mosque in the Saudi capital of Riyadh, he should know.
As Narwani points out, the bad news kept on coming. At the start of the five-day Hajj pilgrimage, the Lebanese daily al-Akhbar published online a database which it said came from the Saudi ministry of health, claiming that up 90,000 pilgrims from around the world have died visiting the Hajj capital of Mecca over a 14-year period. Although this figure is officially denied, it is believed in Shia Muslim Iran, which has lost hundreds of its citizens on the Hajj. Among them was Ghazanfar Roknabadi, a former ambassador and intelligence officer in Lebanon. Iran's supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, has just launched an unprecedented attack on the Saudis, accusing them of murder. "The heartless and murderous Saudis locked up the injured with the dead in containers..." he said in his own Hajj message.
A Saudi official said Khameni's accusations reflected a "new low". Abdulmohsen Alyas, the Saudi undersecretary for international communications, said they were "unfounded, but also timed to only serve their unethical failing propaganda".
Yet the Iranians have boycotted the Hajj this year (not surprisingly, one might add) after claiming that they have not received Saudi assurances of basic security for pilgrims. According to Khamenei, Saudi rulers "have plunged the world of Islam into civil wars". 
However exaggerated his words, one thing is clear: for the first time, ever, the Saudis have been assaulted by both Sunni and Shia leaders at almost the same time.
The presence in Grozny of Grand Imam al-Tayeb of Egypt was particularly infuriating for the Saudis who have poured millions of dollars into the Egyptian economy since Brigadier-General-President al-Sissi staged his doleful military coup more than three years ago. 
What, the Saudis must be asking themselves, has happened to the fawning leaders who would normally grovel to the Kingdom? 
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"In 2010, Saudi Arabia was crossing borders peacefully as a power-broker, working with Iran, Syria, Turkey, Qatar and others to troubleshoot in regional hotspots," Narwani writes. "By 2016, it had buried two kings, shrugged off a measured approach to foreign policy, embraced 'takfiri' madness and emptied its coffers." A "takfiri" is a Sunni who accuses another Muslim (or Christian or Jew) of apostasy.
Kuwait, Libya, Jordan and Sudan were present in Grozny, along with – you guessed it – Ahmed Hassoun, the grand mufti of Syria and a loyal Assad man. Intriguingly, Abu Dhabi played no official role, although its policy of "deradicalisation" is well known throughout the Arab world.
But there are close links between President (and dictator) Ramzan Kadyrov of Chechenya, the official host of the recent conference, and Mohamed Ben Zayed al-Nahyan, the Abu Dhabi Crown Prince. The conference itself was opened by Putin, which shows what he thinks of the Saudis – although, typically, none of the Sunni delegates asked him to stop bombing Syria. But since the very meeting occurred against the backcloth of Isis and its possible defeat, they wouldn't, would they? 
That Chechenya, a country of monstrous bloodletting by Russia and its own Wahhabi rebels, should have been chosen as a venue for such a remarkable conclave was an irony which could not have been lost on the delegates. But the real questions they were discussing must have been equally apparent. 
Who are the real representatives of Sunni Muslims if the Saudis are to be shoved aside? And what is the future of Saudi Arabia? Of such questions are revolutions made.


















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