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Sunday, September 11, 2016

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} In memory of a criminal act



I was there on that clear, beautiful September morning in 2001 on my way to teach an English class at Hunter College of CUNY in mid-town Manhattan. Please do NOT believe the official version -- we, New Yorkers, did not believe it THEN.

There was no evidence of any Osama bin Laden involvement, and when a bin Laden video via Al Jazeera turned up praising (not claiming any part of) the disaster, media had a laugh.  My friend and colleague, Dr. Mildred Ware, rtd. Prof. of English at York College, CUNY, found bin Laden very attractive, and even likened his looks to Jesus Christ (she was Irish Catholic)! Newsweek wrote about bin Laden's white turban draped fashionably over his shoulder and called it "Outlaw chic"!

I made a speech at a hurriedly called campus-wide Faculty Meeting at BMCC, CUNY and urged everyone to consider the event as a new, dramatic tactics of terrorism, a dastardly criminal act, that is dying to pose as a political, or even a religious war.  My colleagues agreed with me that we must not let our students be swayed by the Administration's fear-mongering rhetoric. There were media attempts to compare it with Pearl Harbor , and President George W. Bush said, "We are at War."

Most of my students at entry-level English classes were young and immature, and visibly shaking in fear.  I asked them to look up the definition of 'war' in the dictionary, and write an essay on what they felt -- whether President Bush & his chest-thumping team were right.  They found out, by themselves, that we were NOT at war, and recognized the baloney by Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld -- I did not have to lecture them.


-- Farida Majid


From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Sitangshu Guha guhasb@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 1:20 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} কারা বাংলাকে দ্বিখণ্ডিত করলো এবং কার স্বার্থে
 
 

Today is 9/11, the day, the Islamic terrorists killed almost 3000 innocent people in the name of religion. These heinous Islamic terrorists are still killing innocent people and that includes in Bangladesh. We condemn those Islamic terrorists and their sympathetic supporters all around. These heinous, coward Islamic killers are bound to face justice. 
Tomorrow is EID, greetings to everybody excluding terrorists and their supporters. 
Sitangshu Guha

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 10:59 AM, ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Jiten Roy is absolutely right that Muslims, Christians, Jews or even Hindus are converts at one time or other. There is no shame in it. The new religion may have been forced on us or our ancestors may have found the new religion to be better than the old one. For example, Prophet Mohammad was a Pagan by birth and when he started Islam he became a Muslim. If somebody like Capt Syed wants to deny that, then he should read history properly. Also Capt Syed would find that a lot of Muslim rituals come from Paganism and Judaism. Please watch the attached video clip and you will learn a lot.

- A R

 The history of Hajj
 
 
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On Sunday, 11 September 2016, 15:37, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Persians and Mongols were not originally Muslim, they became Muslim-converts after the invasion of their land by Arabians, as did Indian subcontinental Muslims. Even Arabian Muslims were converts as well.

All Monotheistic believers, far along the ancestry-tree,  are converts within a few thousand years. So, this captain is demonstrating his ignorance about his ancestry.

Jiten Roy





From: "Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} কারা বাংলাকে দ্বিখণ্ডিত করলো এবং কার স্বার্থে

 
Unfortunately, the poor man is not a Saudi but calls himself a proud fire worshiper, Persian. While Saudis can collect welfare checks from their charitable government, a Persian may not have that luxury in his homeland. He will be a janitor no matter where he goes.

Cleanliness is good and highly appreciated in the West!



On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:16 PM, ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com> wrote:
It is amazing that Asghar is such a kind hearted man. Despite all the acrimonious exchanges with Capt Syed, Asghar is giving him a very friendly advice to leave America at the earliest to save his life. For living in the land of infidels and defying Allah's clear instructions to oppose same sex marriages,  Allah will not spare even Capt Syed's life. So hurry before it is too late.

- AR


On Saturday, 10 September 2016, 17:39, Msa40 <msa40@aol.com> wrote:


 
Capt. Syed.
 
In the time of prophet Lut, Allah destroyed his entire race because they had become homosexual. In His rage, Allah did not spare even Lut's wife,
but let his two daughters live so that they could have sex with their biological father and create a new generation of humans!
 
Their descendants are now living in our midst. Can you identify them?
 
America, where I believe you live, has approved same sex-marriage. This is in total defiance of Allah's Will. So He is going to destroy America very
soon.
 
Before this happens, leave this country to save your life. Otherwise, you stand to lose your life for the fault of others. This is just a friendly advice!
 
 
Mohammad Asghar
 
 
 
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"আর হে আমার জাতি! আমার সাথে জিদ করে তোমরা নূহ বা হুদ অথবা সালেহ (আঃ) এর কওমের মত নিজেদের উপর আযাব ডেকে আনবে না। আর লূতের জাতি তো তোমাদের থেকে খুব দূরে নয়।"

Surah Hud (11:89)

Razzak A. Syed


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On 11 Sep 2016, at 2:11 AM, Msa40 <msa40@aol.com> wrote:

 
All Gods always spoke through their "loudspeakers"!
 
With Moses' death, God lost His loudspeaker. With Christ's death, God lost His loudspeaker and with Prophet Muhammad's death,
God lost His last loudspeaker on earth!!
 
MA
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Khurshed Chowdhury <chowdhuryk@gmail.com>
To: 'ANISUR RAHMAN' <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com >; 'Msa40' <msa40@aol.com>; shahdeeldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>
Cc: bangladesh-progressives <mailto:bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>; pfc-friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com> ; mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; amsmel <amsmel@aol.com>; mahfuzur <mahfuzur@aol.com>; kanizs <kanizs@hotmail.com>; akhairuzzaman <akhairuzzaman@gmail.com>
Sent: Sat, Sep 10, 2016 6:10 am
Subject: RE: {PFC-Friends} কারা বাংলাকে দ্বিখণ্ডিত করলো এবং কার স্বার্থে

Folks:
 
Believe me, I am dumfounded! Why? Because: arguments given by both Mr. Asghar and Dr. A. Rahman are damn correct. We cannot make any good arguments against their opinions. Plain truth indeed! If we read Bible, Koran and some other ancient holy books—we can find that, Allah, God, Zehuba—they all were sooooo lively, talkative like parrot, and were unbelievably so much alert that, they used to talk, give instructions, give threats, give vivid dreadful pictures of hell fire, and unlimited goodies inside heaven etc. etc.  God was always with those Prophets day and nights, inside their private home, with their wives, and God was so vivid and alive in those ancient times. Now a days, our world is under so much turmoil, and Islamic terrorists are causing so much havocs almost daily basis. But, God is completely silent! Why? Why God cannot talk like before? Any thought about it?
 
 
KC
 
 
 
From: ANISUR RAHMAN [mailto:anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 7:10 AM
To: Msa40; chowdhuryk@gmail.com; shahdeeldar@gmail.com
Cc: mailto:bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com; pfc-friends@googlegroups.com; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; amsmel@aol.com; mahfuzur@aol.com; kanizs@hotmail.com; akhairuzzaman@gmail.com
Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends}
কারা বাংলাকে দ্বিখণ্ডিত করলো এবং কার স্বার্থে
 
Yes, Yahweh was all over the place during the lives and times of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. There were personal Yahwehs, more like personal trainers. Then gradually such proliferation of Yahwehs had diminished and one super powerful God (and then Allah) had been invented. All these things can be found in great details in Karen Armstrong's book on "A History of God".   
 
Those mullahs, priests and Rabis who spent their lives spreading the gospel of God are just wasting their lives. They just want to cling on to their ignorance. By far the largest human group which is totally block headed and imbecile is the followers of Islam. So sad!!! 
 
On Saturday, 10 September 2016, 1:28, Msa40 <msa40@aol.com> wrote:
 
 
In the seventh century Arabian peninsula, Allah was all over it. He talked to people; argued with them and threatened them with severe punishments.
 
Even before that era, He spoke to strangers on the street and performed miracles. He does nothing of the above these days.
 
What does His silence imply?
 
Have dead ever spoken after they were buried?
 
 
-MA
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Khurshed Chowdhury <chowdhuryk@gmail.com>
To: msa40 <msa40@aol.com>; 'Shah DeEldar' <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>; 'ANISUR RAHMAN' <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com >
Cc: bangladesh-progressives <mailto:bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>; pfc-friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com> ; mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; amsmel <amsmel@aol.com>; mahfuzur <mahfuzur@aol.com>; kanizs <kanizs@hotmail.com>; akhairuzzaman <akhairuzzaman@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 9, 2016 5:01 pm
Subject: RE: {PFC-Friends}
কারা বাংলাকে দ্বিখণ্ডিত করলো এবং কার স্বার্থে
  "No. He died in 632 A.D!!"
 
 
Subahanallah! Mr. Asghar and Mr. DeEldar they both are giant expert in sexology of Divine world. Their theories of making Adam (with wet clay) and Adam (with Sperm and egg) could be Allah's divine magic. But, I don't know how these were at all possible! Again, Mr. Asghar brought even more puzzles by saying:  "No. He died in 632 A.D!!". My question is: How can Allah ever dies? If Allah dies then this whole Universe will start spinning like crazy. Mr. Asghar please explain your opinion about the demise of Allah.
 
Now, regarding the actual size of the Allah's instrument by which He pushed his Sperms right inside the holy vagina of Hawa (first woman) we can make a very good guess. Say, it has been told in the holy book: Kasa sul Ambia---the actual size of Adam when Allah first made him with wet clay, Adam's size was 90 feet long. Now somebody good in math can easily determine the size of that holy instrument. My guess is: it should be 9 feet long with a diameter of 2 feet. This guess may not be correct. You guys please make your own guess about it. I am eagerly waiting to know the actual result.  Thanks.
 
KC
 
 
 
From: msa40@aol.com [mailto:msa40@aol.com?]
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 6:56 PM
To: Shah DeEldar; ANISUR RAHMAN
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Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends}
কারা বাংলাকে দ্বিখণ্ডিত করলো এবং কার স্বার্থে
 
No. He died in 632 A.D!!
 
Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
 
------ Original message------
From: Shah DeEldar
Date: Fri, Sep 9, 2016 3:28 PM
To: ANISUR RAHMAN;
Subject:Re: {PFC-Friends} কারা বাংলাকে দ্বিখণ্ডিত করলো এবং কার স্বার্থে
 
I would be interested to know the exact measurement of that instrument that had been u sed to supply the goods to the virgin vulva? Is He still in business?
 
2016-09-09 14:16 GMT-04:00 ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com >:
You guys are too concerned with the woman and/or the egg to produce Adam. But there is a missing element - who supplied the sperm which fertilised the egg? It must have been Allah himself as there was no man around. If that is the case, then Allah had a fantastic time with the virgin woman. It may even be that he got into the habit of fertilising more women after saying "kuns" to create more women. Allah had very busy time.
 
- AR
 
On Friday, 9 September 2016, 17:21, Msa40 <msa40@aol.com> wrote:
 
 
"But, why Allah did not need any egg to make the second Adam?"
 
 
Mr. Chowdhury,
 
We must not forget that when Allah says, "Kun," ("Be"), whatever He wants to create "becomes"!
 
That is why He did not need female eggs to create Adam, but needed a woman for the purpose. The zillion dollar question is: when did He
create that woman and how?
 
Was it the command "Be" that created that woman, and if it was, then why He failed to create Adam in the same process?
 
< div dir="ltr">"Daal may kutch kala hai" (There is something awfully wrong)!
 
 
-MA
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Khurshed Chowdhury <chowdhuryk@gmail.com>
To: 'Msa40' <msa40@aol.com>; shahdeeldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>; bangladesh-progressives <mailto:bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>
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Sent: Fri, Sep 9, 2016 6:32 am
Subject: RE: {PFC-Friends}
কারা বাংলাকে দ্বিখণ্ডিত করলো এবং কার স্বার্থে
Mr. Asghar,
 
Thanks for your very interesting and colorful story of how the first Adam (made from only wet clay) and the second Adam (made with sperm only) were created by Merciful Allah in the heaven situated over the 7th sky. But, why Allah did not need any egg to make the second Adam? Was it mentioned by Allah in the Koran (the holy book of all knowledge) that Allah created second Adam only by the Sperm? Why only now we the human need to have both sperm and egg—to make any baby? Could you please clarify this Allah's Kudrot (mysertery) for us to learn?  This is another Islamic puzzle to me!  My head is spinning even faster now. Thanks.
 
 
KC
 
From: Msa40 [mailto:msa40@aol.com?]
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 9:21 PM
To: chowdhuryk@gmail.com; shahdeeldar@gmail.com; bangladesh-mailto:progressives@googlegroups.com
Cc: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; amsmel@aol.com; mahfuzur@aol.com; anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com; kanizs@hotmail.com; akhairuzzaman@gmail.com
Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends}
কারা বাংলাকে দ্বিখণ্ডিত করলো এবং কার স্বার্থে
 
 
"So, you are telling me that Adam the first human made of wet mud was a muslim?" - Mr. Chowdhury.
 
 
No Sir, I am talking about another Adam - not the first one!
 
After creating the fi rst Adam out of the "essence of clay," Allah dissolved him into sperm. Then Allah placed this sperm in the womb of a woman who was loitering in heaven. From her womb, Allah created the second Adam who came down to earth with his wife and resided in Arafat, Mecca.
 
How Allah placed the sperm into the woman's womb remains a mystery. I guess He did it thru artificial insemination - a technique that is being used by the infidels today!
 
There was no other way for Allah to put sperm into the womb of the mysterious woman, was there any?
 
By the way, do you know if Allah could create a human being in the womb of a woman without using her "eggs"?
 
He has done it. That is why world famous professors tell us that the process Allah had used in the creation of Adam is absolutely scientific?
 
 
Mohammad Asghar 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Khurshed Chowdhury <chowdhuryk@gmail.com>
To: 'Msa40' <msa40@aol.com>; shahdeeldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>; bangladesh-progressives <mailto:bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>
Cc: pfc-friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com> ; mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; amsmel <mailto:amsmel@aol.commahfuzur@aol.com>; anisur.rahman1 <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com >; 'KANIZ SHIREEN' <kanizs@hotmail.com>; 'Akm Khairuzzaman' <akhairuzzaman@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 8, 2016 4:36 pm
Subject: RE: {PFC-Friends}
কারা বাংলাকে দ্বিখণ্ডিত করলো এবং কার স্বার্থে
Mr. Asghar said:
 
"In fact, it was Adam who had started the first Open-Air-University at the plains of Arafat, which is located in the vicinity of Mecca. Adam was a Muslim,
because just after his "birth," he had said:
 
La illaha Illallah - Muhammadur Rassol Allah - No lesser Allah but Allah and Muhammad is a Rasool of that Allah."
 
Masaallah! Massaallah!! So, you are telling me that Adam the first human made of wet mud was a muslim? That means he was the first mumeen musalman? But, why Adam had to recite: "La illaha Illallah - Muhammadur Rassol Allah - No lesser Allah but Allah and Muhammad is a Rasool of that Allah." shahada of making someone a muslim? Does it mean that the first human Adam had to accept Muhammad as the Prophet of Islam? Are you crazy? Why the first human Adam was not the Prophet of Islam? This is totally crazy to me. My head is pinning very first after reading your theory of Islamic puzzle!. Mr. Asghar you must be out of your mind!
 
 
KC
 
 










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Re: [mukto-mona] Hillary Clinton 'collapse': Video shows Democrat 'fainting' at 9/11 memorial




Hillary is seriously ill; what she needs now is treatment, not constant dragging from one political rally to another.
I think, she won't care much about her illness also. She will make sure, her illness remains a mystery. Unfortunately, it could be suicidal if she trades health for political aspirations. In that case, it will not only be another poor judgment and careless mishandling of her own health, but also be the greatest deceit done to American people, who are cheering for her.
Did Biden start practicing for debates already?
JR



From: "Shah Deeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Hillary Clinton 'collapse': Video shows Democrat 'fainting' at 9/11 memorial

 
Hilary is having Parkinson disease? Side effects of Levadopa?





On Sunday, September 11, 2016 2:43 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
 
 
Hillary Clinton 'collapse': Video shows Democrat 'fainting' at 9/11 memorial
The Democratic presidential candidate was 'overheated' and was carried into a car






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Re: [mukto-mona] Hillary Clinton 'collapse': Video shows Democrat 'fainting' at 9/11 memorial



Hilary is having Parkinson disease? Side effects of Levadopa?





On Sunday, September 11, 2016 2:43 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
 
 
Hillary Clinton 'collapse': Video shows Democrat 'fainting' at 9/11 memorial
The Democratic presidential candidate was 'overheated' and was carried into a car




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Posted by: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>


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