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Friday, November 11, 2016

Re: [mukto-mona] RE: A low point in democracy when bully. win!



No, it is not an 'against' vote, it's a 'for' vote for most people, like me.
 
This is how I saw it. There are two issues to consider – 1) Policy and 2) Personal issues. Once we can isolate issues in these categories, it becomes easier to make the right decision.
I believe, while policies affect every citizens, personal issues only affect family and the affected individuals. I, also, firmly believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty.
Naturally, when I heard about personal accusations against Trump, some of which were decades old, I deferred my judgement until those accusers can prove him guilty, which I doubt they can. If they could, they would not have waited for decades to bring him to justice. So, I concentrated on his policies, and found them truly good for America. As you know, when America does well, most people do well as well.
Jiten Roy



From: "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: A low point in democracy when bully. win!

 
I think this election was really an "against vote", as opposed to a "for vote".

Against: Policies that caused loss of jobs in the USA; dishonesty of Hillary Clinton; dishonesty of establishment politics, including the Democratic and Republican parties; dishonesty of the mass media that manipulate elections; dishonesty and naivete of the claimers of progressive politics who tolerate creeping Islamic fanaticism in the USA; and irresponsible immigration policies.

I think most people in the USA did not like Donald Trump's personality and temperament; although they did like some of his policy statements. They did not have a very good choice, and they ended up voting for Trump, as the better of the two unlikable candidates.

SuBain

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On Friday, November 11, 2016 11:13 AM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
 
 
I have been reading recent comments from some political novices in this forum, and trying to understand what's wrong with them.  
What I found out is that - their political  thoughts are still immature, and inconsistent. Even though some of these people have spent many decades in the USA and many other Western developed countries, yet their thought is still immature; they think like a young street protester, chanting "Not My President."
Bottom line is – when election is free and fair - that's where all complains should end. Whether you accept the President or not – what difference does it make, as Hillary would say? I learned this simple fact 8 years ago after ultra-liberal Barak Obama became the President.
Political traction of Trump candidacy was apparent, to me, right at the beginning of the Primary Battle, which most veteran politicians also missed. They are now admitting that - they misread the palse of the most ordinary people.
Trump read and understood the mood of the general public correctly better than any other veteran politicians, and he used it perfectly. The reason why he could understand it was because - he was an outsider, just like the ordinary people. As he was giving out his policies, I found him speaking my mind as well. So, it was quiet natural that I should support him.
During the last 8 years of Barak Obama Administration, America has been witnessing a weak leadership since Carter Administration.  At the end of both instances, Americans  were starving for a strong leader. Hillary can't fulfill that tall shoe by extending Barak Obama policies. Naturally, Americans were looking for alternative candidates for their leader.
If you remember those 17 candidates, who ran for nomination, Trump appeared to be the strongest of all. So, it's not unnatural that, end of Obama, they will chose Trump, just like they chose Regan  at the end of Carter Administration. It's a logical conclusion, isn't it?
Now, those who are crying, are the people, who either due to political naivety or foggy political mindset, created by 24/7 media brainwashing, or certain ideological prejudice.
Unfortunately, Americans are basically politically naïve, especially, white people; they are not insignificant in number, unfortunately. They are the ones, who are bring argument for popular vote to justify their claim that Trump does not represent them. This is a self-centered destructive thought, devoid of any consideration for the welfare of the country. They do not know why US President is not elected by popular votes. May be they should get educated on that issue first before they become eligible to vote. Very sad to see such political immaturity in so many highly educated people.
 
 
Jiten Roy
 
 
 
 
 



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Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 7:40 AM
Subject: [mukto-mona] RE: A low point in democracy when bully. win!

 
To: Othithee,
 
Your unnecessary ranting is unjust and sort of stupid bullying. America badly needed leader like Trump. And America got it right. Your comments are: "Adar beparir Jahazer Khabor" –the famous Bengali adage. Stop this nonsense comment please! Stay good because—this is no backbone-less Obama now. This is the mighty Trump who will keep trumping left and right soon.
 
 
KC
 
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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:09 PM
To: Khoniker Othithee
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Subject: Re: A low point in democracy when bully. win!
 
A rule is a rule! There are problems with both systems. If we go with popular votes, only few large states can elect presidents. That would be bad too. American founders saw it through and settled with the best system. These founders were simply brilliant minds!
American presidency is a powerful position. Is Trump bully? Was not Bill Clinton a bully? Is not Chinese Prime minister another bully? What about Putin? I heard same noise from from liberals when Modi got elected. No, he was not a bully but polarizing. What about Muslim countries and their favorite Kings/dictators for life? I am intentionally avoiding Muslim democracy because that simply does not exists at all. Muslims should be the last people to complain about bullies and dictators.

Watch American version of 'House of Cards'! great serial played by Kevin Spacey and Robin Wright.
 
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:
If popular votes indictes anything, it means majority of Americans rejected bullying , sexism from dark ages, that is, also from seventh centuries, if not earliers.

But to the dismay of founding fathers in their graves, bully successfully circumvent the majority rule leveraging federalism. Now it is the nightmare for the parents of young children, especially the girls.

Enlightened American are questioning the winner of this election to advance the democracy. So, please feel free to speak up aslong you don't impose notions of darkness from centuries back.
 

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Subject: Re: A low point in democracy when bully. win!
Sent: Thu, Nov 10, 2016 2:04:11 PM
 
This a free world, dear and people have spoken. Accept the verdict or stay on the sideline. What Asian Hindus/Muslims, Arabs, Latinos and pigmies think.... is irrelevant. There is a regime change and lets follow the rule of democracy. When Modi came to the power, we heard the same noise about sky to fall while many Muslims were forced to abandon their own Muslim dominated countries. Isn't that an odd phenomenon? And, these same people have the audacity to criticize secular democracies for their choices. Should Muslims dictate what kind of democracies others should have when Muslims are still living with the 7th century mentality? "We do not need to change but you do?"
 
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:54 AM, 'Khoniker Othithee' via Bangladesh Progressives <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Bully looses in popularity but still wins!

Now that a bully is the designated top dog of the nation, some of the parents of young chdren, especially girls are worried. Older boys are palying infamous audio clip, in which Trump bragging about grabbig female by pussy, as if it is the national anthem.

The defense for Trump is "men talk like that"; true, but not the resposible men. Some men rape for thrill too, does that make it acceptable.

He has contempt for women, that was confirmed when he encrouged a talk show host refer to his daughter Ivanka as pu. Or ass( this might be expected from a guy who makes a living as a pimp in bordello) . Now women should leave for Canada becuase a pimp won in questionable election. This first the time fbi was a party to a campaign. It took took less 2 days to read 35000 mail when senator Ried pointed that it had broken laws. FBI figured if it give a favorable review to Hillary,, her campaign will find it hard to blame them. But they have done the damge to her chances by playing with timing to influence early votes. Only CBS raised the question if they really review all tens of thousand email, or just a ruse to cover a crime.

Trump's win can be attributed to confluence of many concerns, some are legitimate like terrorism and crime , when others are despicable as racist, xenophobia, sexist and contempt for decency.

The number of victims from terrorism in the last decade is pale compared to number of children got killed by adult bullies over the same period with no comparale demand for addressing the issues; that fact shows some dont see children as fellow citizen , when it matters but excuse terrorism as a excuse vote for bully and against gun control .

The budget allocated for children welfare is smaller than what is for terrorism. The people who voted for trump is perfectly comfortable with that arrangement. They see the money allocated in budget for children welfare is socialism. It shows their judgement is skewed, so them voting for pimp didnt suprise me.

US native have some reservations of imigrants; those are somewhat reasonable. Though many immigrants make good use of western experiences and make contribution here. When fews are like pigs; pig looks for clean places to relieve it self, to make it suitable for them live in , that is shitty place. For example ey bring BNP/BAl or BJP/Congress politics here.

On the topics of asian imigrant ( that includes muslim and hindu) I would say they have contempt for western world out of jelousy. They both reduce their religion to politics


After defeating soviets in afganistan, some muslim grew a false confidence that , they can beat on super power. Those moron forget or dont realize tbey were just second fiddle to another super power in that fight. In last 2 decades these morons decided to take upon their boss. They saw succes in blood letting. Untill recently some didnt realize their folly.

Hindus dodn"t bring violence here, but dishonesty is, for many of them a staple mode of opernadi as with muslim and people from other continent.

http://m.bdnews24.com/en/ detail/us-elections-2016/ 1240650
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[mukto-mona] বিএনপি মা ও ছেলের রাজনৈতিক সমিতি : সাক্ষাৎকারে ড. শাহেদা ওবায়েদ



সাক্ষাৎকারে ড. শাহেদা ওবায়েদ
বিএনপি মা ও ছেলের রাজনৈতিক সমিতি

ছলিম উল্লাহ মেজবাহ
Published : Saturday, 12 November, 2016 at 12:35 AM
 
বিএনপি মা ও ছেলের রাজনৈতিক সমিতিবিএনপি কোনো রাজনৈতিক দল না এটা মা ও ছেলের রাজনৈতিক সমিতি বলে মন্তব্য করেছেন গড়ব বাংলাদেশের আহ্বায়ক প্রফেসর ড. শাহেদা ওবায়েদ। তিনি বলেন, দলের পদ পদবি পাওয়ার জন্য কোটি টাকার বাণিজ্য হয়, তাই এটাকে কোনো রাজনৈতিক দল না বললেও ভুল হবে না। কারণ এ পার্টি দলের চেয়ারপার্সন বেগম খালেদা জিয়া ও ছেলে তারেক রহমানের কথায় পরিচালিত হয়। তাই এই দলটি মা-ছেলের সমিতি হয়ে দাঁড়িয়েছে। শহীদ রাষ্ট্রপতি জিয়াউর রহমানের দল বলা যাবে না। সম্প্রতি মানবকণ্ঠের সঙ্গে একান্ত সাক্ষাৎকারে তিনি এ অভিযোগ করেন তিনি।
এক প্রশ্নের জবাবে ড. শাহেদা বলেন, বিএনপির এখন গণমুখী জনমুখী কোনো কর্মসূচি নেই। প্রেস রিলিজনির্ভর। নির্বাচন প্রসঙ্গে বলেন, ২০১৯ সালে হওয়ার কথা। আন্তর্জাতিক পরাশক্তির চাপের কারণে নির্বাচন দিলে সেটি ভিন্ন কথা। তবে এটা ভালো হবে না। কারণ বিদেশি শক্তিরা তাদের এজেন্ডা বাস্তবায়ন করবে। সে কারণে বিএনপির লাভ হবে না। তাদের লাভ হবে আন্দোলন করে আগাম নির্বাচন আদায় করতে পারলে। পরিতাপের বিষয় যে বিএনপির আন্দোলন করার ক্ষমতা নেই।
আরেক প্রশ্নের জবাবে তিনি বলেন, আওয়ামী লীগ স্বেচ্ছাচারী কর্মকাণ্ড চালাচ্ছে, যেহেতু কোনো বাধা ও প্রতিবাদ নেই। বর্তমানে এক কথায় একটি রাজনৈতিক দল আছে আওয়ামী লীগ।  আমিই রাজা আমিই সব। সেই দলকে চ্যালেঞ্জ করার কেউ নেই। তাই মাঠ খালি। বর্তমানে যারা আছে তারা যদি স্বেচ্ছাচারী করে ঠেকাবে কে?
প্রধানমন্ত্রীর নির্বাচন প্রস্তুতি প্রসঙ্গে ড. শাহেদা বলেন, নির্বাচন কবে হবে প্রধানমন্ত্রী বলেননি। তবে দলীয় নেতাকর্মীদের নির্বাচনের জন্য প্রস্তুতি নিতে বলছেন। শেখ হাসিনা বলেছেন স্বাভাবিকভাবে নির্বাচন হবে। বিএনপির কঠোর সমালোচনা করে শাহেদা বলেন, বিদেশি পরাশক্তিদের আশ্রয়-প্রশ্রয়ে ক্ষমতা যাবে এ চিন্তা বিএনপি জোটকে বাদ দিতে হবে। আগামী সংসদ নির্বাচন করার ইচ্ছা আছে জানিয়ে শাহেদা বলেন, নির্ভর করবে রাজনৈতিক পরিস্থিতির ওপর। কোন আসন থেকে নির্বাচন করতে পারেন এমন প্রশ্নে তিনি বলেন, এখন বলব না, মনের মধ্যে নির্ধারণ আছে। নিজ হাতে গড়া গড়ব বাংলাদেশ প্রসঙ্গে বলেন, এটি একটি অরাজনৈতিক সামাজিক সংগঠন। আমরা রাজনৈতিক, অর্থনৈতিক ও সামাজিক সচেতনতা বাড়ানোর জন্য কাজ করে যাচ্ছি। দেশকে মঙ্গলের চিন্তা করার জন্য তরুণ সমাজকে উদ্বুদ্ধ করছি।

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Re: [mukto-mona] RE: A low point in democracy when bully. win!



I think this election was really an "against vote", as opposed to a "for vote".

Against: Policies that caused loss of jobs in the USA; dishonesty of Hillary Clinton; dishonesty of establishment politics, including the Democratic and Republican parties; dishonesty of the mass media that manipulate elections; dishonesty and naivete of the claimers of progressive politics who tolerate creeping Islamic fanaticism in the USA; and irresponsible immigration policies.

I think most people in the USA did not like Donald Trump's personality and temperament; although they did like some of his policy statements. They did not have a very good choice, and they ended up voting for Trump, as the better of the two unlikable candidates.

SuBain

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On Friday, November 11, 2016 11:13 AM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
 
 
I have been reading recent comments from some political novices in this forum, and trying to understand what's wrong with them.  
What I found out is that - their political  thoughts are still immature, and inconsistent. Even though some of these people have spent many decades in the USA and many other Western developed countries, yet their thought is still immature; they think like a young street protester, chanting "Not My President."
Bottom line is – when election is free and fair - that's where all complains should end. Whether you accept the President or not – what difference does it make, as Hillary would say? I learned this simple fact 8 years ago after ultra-liberal Barak Obama became the President.
Political traction of Trump candidacy was apparent, to me, right at the beginning of the Primary Battle, which most veteran politicians also missed. They are now admitting that - they misread the palse of the most ordinary people.
Trump read and understood the mood of the general public correctly better than any other veteran politicians, and he used it perfectly. The reason why he could understand it was because - he was an outsider, just like the ordinary people. As he was giving out his policies, I found him speaking my mind as well. So, it was quiet natural that I should support him.
During the last 8 years of Barak Obama Administration, America has been witnessing a weak leadership since Carter Administration.  At the end of both instances, Americans  were starving for a strong leader. Hillary can't fulfill that tall shoe by extending Barak Obama policies. Naturally, Americans were looking for alternative candidates for their leader.
If you remember those 17 candidates, who ran for nomination, Trump appeared to be the strongest of all. So, it's not unnatural that, end of Obama, they will chose Trump, just like they chose Regan  at the end of Carter Administration. It's a logical conclusion, isn't it?
Now, those who are crying, are the people, who either due to political naivety or foggy political mindset, created by 24/7 media brainwashing, or certain ideological prejudice.
Unfortunately, Americans are basically politically naïve, especially, white people; they are not insignificant in number, unfortunately. They are the ones, who are bring argument for popular vote to justify their claim that Trump does not represent them. This is a self-centered destructive thought, devoid of any consideration for the welfare of the country. They do not know why US President is not elected by popular votes. May be they should get educated on that issue first before they become eligible to vote. Very sad to see such political immaturity in so many highly educated people.
 
 
Jiten Roy
 
 
 
 
 



From: "'Khurshed Chowdhury' chowdhuryk@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Cc: 'bangladesh-progressives' <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>; 'yahoogroups' <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; 'Asgar Googlegroup' <msa40@aol.com>; poplu@hotmail.com
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 7:40 AM
Subject: [mukto-mona] RE: A low point in democracy when bully. win!

 
To: Othithee,
 
Your unnecessary ranting is unjust and sort of stupid bullying. America badly needed leader like Trump. And America got it right. Your comments are: "Adar beparir Jahazer Khabor" –the famous Bengali adage. Stop this nonsense comment please! Stay good because—this is no backbone-less Obama now. This is the mighty Trump who will keep trumping left and right soon.
 
 
KC
 
From: DeEldar [mailto:shahdeeldar@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:09 PM
To: Khoniker Othithee
Cc: bangladesh-progressives; yahoogroups; Asgar Googlegroup; Khurshed Chowdhury; poplu@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: A low point in democracy when bully. win!
 
A rule is a rule! There are problems with both systems. If we go with popular votes, only few large states can elect presidents. That would be bad too. American founders saw it through and settled with the best system. These founders were simply brilliant minds!
American presidency is a powerful position. Is Trump bully? Was not Bill Clinton a bully? Is not Chinese Prime minister another bully? What about Putin? I heard same noise from from liberals when Modi got elected. No, he was not a bully but polarizing. What about Muslim countries and their favorite Kings/dictators for life? I am intentionally avoiding Muslim democracy because that simply does not exists at all. Muslims should be the last people to complain about bullies and dictators.

Watch American version of 'House of Cards'! great serial played by Kevin Spacey and Robin Wright.
 
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:
If popular votes indictes anything, it means majority of Americans rejected bullying , sexism from dark ages, that is, also from seventh centuries, if not earliers.

But to the dismay of founding fathers in their graves, bully successfully circumvent the majority rule leveraging federalism. Now it is the nightmare for the parents of young children, especially the girls.

Enlightened American are questioning the winner of this election to advance the democracy. So, please feel free to speak up aslong you don't impose notions of darkness from centuries back.
 

From: DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>;
To: bangladesh-progressives googlegroups <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; Msa40 <msa40@aol.com>; Khurshed Chowdhury <chowdhuryk@gmail.com>; Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>;
Subject: Re: A low point in democracy when bully. win!
Sent: Thu, Nov 10, 2016 2:04:11 PM
 
This a free world, dear and people have spoken. Accept the verdict or stay on the sideline. What Asian Hindus/Muslims, Arabs, Latinos and pigmies think.... is irrelevant. There is a regime change and lets follow the rule of democracy. When Modi came to the power, we heard the same noise about sky to fall while many Muslims were forced to abandon their own Muslim dominated countries. Isn't that an odd phenomenon? And, these same people have the audacity to criticize secular democracies for their choices. Should Muslims dictate what kind of democracies others should have when Muslims are still living with the 7th century mentality? "We do not need to change but you do?"
 
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:54 AM, 'Khoniker Othithee' via Bangladesh Progressives <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Bully looses in popularity but still wins!

Now that a bully is the designated top dog of the nation, some of the parents of young chdren, especially girls are worried. Older boys are palying infamous audio clip, in which Trump bragging about grabbig female by pussy, as if it is the national anthem.

The defense for Trump is "men talk like that"; true, but not the resposible men. Some men rape for thrill too, does that make it acceptable.

He has contempt for women, that was confirmed when he encrouged a talk show host refer to his daughter Ivanka as pu. Or ass( this might be expected from a guy who makes a living as a pimp in bordello) . Now women should leave for Canada becuase a pimp won in questionable election. This first the time fbi was a party to a campaign. It took took less 2 days to read 35000 mail when senator Ried pointed that it had broken laws. FBI figured if it give a favorable review to Hillary,, her campaign will find it hard to blame them. But they have done the damge to her chances by playing with timing to influence early votes. Only CBS raised the question if they really review all tens of thousand email, or just a ruse to cover a crime.

Trump's win can be attributed to confluence of many concerns, some are legitimate like terrorism and crime , when others are despicable as racist, xenophobia, sexist and contempt for decency.

The number of victims from terrorism in the last decade is pale compared to number of children got killed by adult bullies over the same period with no comparale demand for addressing the issues; that fact shows some dont see children as fellow citizen , when it matters but excuse terrorism as a excuse vote for bully and against gun control .

The budget allocated for children welfare is smaller than what is for terrorism. The people who voted for trump is perfectly comfortable with that arrangement. They see the money allocated in budget for children welfare is socialism. It shows their judgement is skewed, so them voting for pimp didnt suprise me.

US native have some reservations of imigrants; those are somewhat reasonable. Though many immigrants make good use of western experiences and make contribution here. When fews are like pigs; pig looks for clean places to relieve it self, to make it suitable for them live in , that is shitty place. For example ey bring BNP/BAl or BJP/Congress politics here.

On the topics of asian imigrant ( that includes muslim and hindu) I would say they have contempt for western world out of jelousy. They both reduce their religion to politics


After defeating soviets in afganistan, some muslim grew a false confidence that , they can beat on super power. Those moron forget or dont realize tbey were just second fiddle to another super power in that fight. In last 2 decades these morons decided to take upon their boss. They saw succes in blood letting. Untill recently some didnt realize their folly.

Hindus dodn"t bring violence here, but dishonesty is, for many of them a staple mode of opernadi as with muslim and people from other continent.

http://m.bdnews24.com/en/ detail/us-elections-2016/ 1240650
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[mukto-mona] Re: My associate, a Bangladeshi-American's comment



Yes, hypocrisy has been exposed explicitly! Dying left is merging with Islamist with the thought that... the marriage will be blessed in the heaven. Or, this is a marriage of convenience until some naive leftists loose their precious heads for trivial blasphemy jokes/offenses.
I am waiting for Noam Chomsky and Bagdaddi standing shoulder to shoulder on the same podium and addressing the world?

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Jamal Hasan <poplu@hotmail.com> wrote:


Shared the clip on my wall, along with this header:

Many Muslim immigrants, soaked full of Leftist propaganda against Trump, as well as Muslims around the world, are worried about the future of Muslims in the United States with Trump as President.

The hysteria is laughable and moronic. I have zero sympathy for it because it is NOT founded on fact. As for Trump's comment about Muslim immigration, let me point out: Muslims are in a giant denial that Jihadist terrorism has an Islamic root. As such, they are doing precious little to stamp out Jihadism in their societies. Here in the US the same denial is shamefully obvious, as well.

In what way do Muslims have the right to immigrate to the US when they refuse to pick out their Jihadists? WHO decided it would be better for the US as a whole to ignore citizen safety by letting in Muslims KNOWING many are supremacist Jihadi goons?

Next is Trump's specific comment about Muslim refugees, about stalling their immigration UNTIL our government figured out how to catch the ISIS goons among them. It's not up for debate those goons have infiltrated their ranks. It's also not up for debate more refugees means more ISIS goons! (do the math, stupid!)

A general question to my Muslim friends: Why is it so important for Muslims to get in here when many of 'em HATE our secular culture, our Constitution, and our women's equality in the eye of the law? Let's be honest: Many of you hate these, as well. But, so long as you personally benefit from our economy, you spew the hate only at Friday Jumah camaraderie to affirm your surface "Muslim solidarity" with your community!

Watch the 6m 9s clip. While I appreciate the mullah's demystification of the anti-Trump Leftist hype, I couldn't help noticing his larger "Islamic" opinion about the world which has little rational value.






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