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Tuesday, November 26, 2013

[mukto-mona] পিকেটারদের আগুনে দগ্ধ সিএনজি অটোরিকশা চালক



পিকেটারদের আগুনে দগ্ধ সিএনজি অটোরিকশা চালক

ইত্তেফাক রিপোর্ট

রাজধানীর হাতিরপুলের ইস্টার্নপ্লাজা মার্কেটের সামনে পিকেটারদের দেয়া আগুনে পুড়ে আহত হয়েছেন সাবেদ আলী (৩৩) নামের এক সিএনজি অটোরিকশা চালক। মঙ্গলবার দুপুরে এ ঘটনা ঘটে। তাকে আহত অবস্থায় ঢাকা মেডিক্যাল কলেজ হাসপাতালের বার্ন ইউনিটে চিকিত্সা দেয়া হচ্ছে।

আহত সাবেদ আলী জানান, মঙ্গলবার বেলা একটার দিকে গুলশান এক নম্বর থেকে এক যাত্রীকে নিয়ে হাতিরপুলের উদ্দেশ্যে রওয়ানা দেন। হাতিরপুলের নাহার গার্ডেনের সামনে যাত্রীকে নামিয়ে দিয়ে ভাড়া নিতেই কয়েকজন পিকেটার তার গাড়িতে পেট্রোল ঢেলে আগুন ধরিয়ে দেয়। গাড়ি থেকে বের হওয়ার আগেই তার শরীরের কাপড়ে আগুন ধরে যায়। পরে পথচারীরা চালকের আসনের গ্রীল খুলে সাবেদ আলীকে উদ্ধার করে। 

ঢাকা মেডিক্যাল কলেজ হাসপাতালের বার্ন ইউনিটের আবাসিক সার্জন ডা. পার্থ শঙ্কর পাল জানান, সাবেদ আলীর নাভী থেকে মুখ পর্যন্ত পুড়ে গেছে। তার শরীরের ১৫ শতাংশ অগ্নিদগ্ধ হয়েছে। 

আহত সাবেদ আলী তার পরিবারের সাথে সবুজবাগের বাসাবো রাজারবাগ কালিমন্দিরের ৫২ নম্বর বাড়িতে ভাড়া থাকেন। সাবেদ আলী গাইবান্ধা জেলার সুন্দরগঞ্জ থানার চন্ডীপুর গ্রামের নোয়াব আলীর ছেলে।

এদিকে, সোমবার সন্ধ্যায় জয়পুরহাট শহরে পিকেটারদের ছোঁড়া ককটেলের আঘাতে আহত হন পুলিশ কনস্টেবল দুলু মিয়া। তার মাথা ও দুই চোখ ককটেলের স্প্লিন্টারে ক্ষতবিক্ষত হয়। মঙ্গলবার ভোরে জয়পুরহাট থেকে তাকে ঢাকা মেডিক্যাল কলেজ হাসপাতালে ভর্তি করা হয়। বর্তমানে তিনি ১০৩ নম্বর ওয়ার্ডে চিকিত্সাধীন রয়েছেন। ঢাকা মেডিক্যাল কলেজ হাসপাতালের জরুরী বিভাগের কর্তব্যরত চিকিত্সক জানিয়েছেন, দুলালের ডান চোখ নষ্ট হয়ে গেছে। এছাড়া তার মাথায় আঘাত বেশ গুরুতর হওয়ায় তার অবস্থা আশঙ্কাজনক।
http://www.ittefaq.com.bd/index.php?ref=MjBfMTFfMjdfMTNfMV8xXzFfODg4MjI=

People the victims again

Arif, 3, the son of auto rickshaw driver Sabed Ali, top, cries his heart out after seeing his father burnt and bandaged at the burn unit of Dhaka Medical College Hospital. Alleged opposition activists hurled a petrol bomb at Sabed's vehicle in front of Eastern Plaza during the opposition enforced nationwide blockade yesterday. Photo: Amran Hossain

Arif, 3, the son of auto rickshaw driver Sabed Ali, top, cries his heart out after seeing his father burnt and bandaged at the burn unit of Dhaka Medical College Hospital. Alleged opposition activists hurled a petrol bomb at Sabed's vehicle in front of Eastern Plaza during the opposition enforced nationwide blockade yesterday. Photo: Amran Hossain

burnt driver.






Seven-year-old Rakib at DMCH

Seven-year-old Rakib at DMCH


BGB Man Among 7 Killed

Districts delinked

BNP-led opposition activists torch, derail trains; burn election office on the first day of 48-hour blockade


বুধবার, ২৭ নভেম্বর ২০১৩, ১৩ অগ্রহায়ন ১৪২০
এই সন্ত্রাস কত দিনের এবং কী জন্য?
আবদুল গাফ্ফার চৌধুরী
লন্ডন, ২৬ নবেম্বর, মঙ্গলবার, ২০১৩ ॥
চতুরঙ্গ - বুধবার, ২৭ নভেম্বর ২০১৩, ১৩ অগ্রহায়ন ১৪২০




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Re: [mukto-mona] Angola Bans Islam, Destroys Mosques



I think the line of thoughts below is almost all wrong.
 
Let me say it clearly again, 'Saudi Arabia is a barbaric state' is no good reason for any good/just person/nation to turn barbaric.
 
Now, does that mean that a just person/nation should accept Saudi Arabia to remain barbaric? NO.
 
I think good/just people should remain good/just and try their best to discourage barbaric/unjust behavior everywhere. They should also penalize/fight hatred and injustice where needed. Fighting the barbarians with "justice for all" philosophy is not barbarian by any means.
 
It is very unfortunate that for short-term and short-sighted interests, and for their mostly perceived weakness, many otherwise decent people/nations accept, tolerate, and even encourage unjust and barbaric behavior in people and nations.
 
Let me give an example from the Indian subcontinent. In India, the so-called secular forces are too short-sighted and idiotic; they do not seek just one set of laws (uniform civil code) for all citizens. The uniform civil code, which is a serious secular phenomenon, gets hijacked by the Hindutwa fanatics. What a shame!
 
Now talking about some realities, I can see that in some places in the world, one group of hate-mongers seems to be better in fighting another group of hate-mongers. That reality, to me, is too unfortunate and wrong. The fight really should be between the hate-mongers and people who do not hate; and it should be executed with utmost conviction by people who do not hate. Until this present reality is changed, I do not see much hope in this world.
 
Sukhamaya Bain
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From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Angola Bans Islam, Destroys Mosques

 

You said Saudi Arabia, being a barbarian state, can do such things, but that should not be repeated by others. Unfortunately, Saudi Arabia is very influential world power; whatever they do, many others emulate. There are many other countries, where  persecution of religious minorities are rampant. Also, as you know, millions of people have no problem with Saudi religious practices. They will support it until they are subjected to such discrimination, as is the case in Angola.

You must have noticed that – there are no outcries over such unjust practice in Saudi Arabia also. That could be because most people love to take the moral high ground, as you did. They people have mindset of "we are not one of them." The result is – such practices have been going on unabated for thousands of year in Saudi Arabia. Iran has jailed a Christian Priest, recently, because he has been holding prayer meetings at private residences there. There are many such examples in many countries around the world.
 
When we say – Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc. are barbarian states, we kind of give them a pass to do anything there. This sort of moral high ground usually leads to vulnerability.
 
Most wrongdoers are lowlife people, but we still have to engage them to fight wrongdoings. In covert operations, good people have to act like bad people to fight wrongdoers. Sometimes, you have to use a thorn to pull out another thorn. Let's think about this fact – if a mugger gets mugged one day, I believe, he will learn a better lesson than sitting in the jail with free food, free lodging, and free entertainment.
 
One of the human characteristics is – we feel and understand some of our actions when it happens directly to us. Banning any religion anywhere is wrong; but sometimes it may be the best way to open up eyes and consciousness of some people, who otherwise won't learn lesson.

Jiten Roy
 





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Re: [mukto-mona] মার্ক্সবাদীদের প্রতি



Exactly, that's what I was pointing to. I think in this very forum once I mentioned that the poem "Africa" was written many years before the novel "Roots" (remember the TV serial) was written. Every one should read this poem which is readily available. 

I think I also mentioned that Rabindranath was a rare Intellectual who looked at the 1857 great revolt with a positive attitude. 

Rabindranath was in favor of people's history---not the history of ups and downs of kings. His motto was to look at the common people as a very important element of the historical process. Many historians have now this new look at history. Romila Thapar is one of them. 

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On Nov 25, 2013, at 9:36 PM, "Sankar Kumar Ray" <sankarray62@rediffmail.com> wrote:

 

Subimalbabu:
The poem, Africa, I agree with Pareshda, is the most profound analysis of what colonialism was all about. A London newspaper (Spectator?) carried its English version (done by the poet) but it's not traceable. Why not try to locate this through your source in London?
Best,
SR

From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 06:13:30
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মার্ক্সবাদীদের প্রতি
 

1. SankarDa, I have no doctorate degree. 

2. There has been a misunderstanding: I did not mean that you said that Rabindranath read or mentioned Marx. I am curious and asked the question every one in the forum. 

3. Please read my few comments on "Rashiyar Chithi". He understood in 1930 the excesses the communist leaders were doing. 

4. Have you noticed that Rabindranath used the word "sobhara(sorbohara)" in one of his poems--his God used to live among those who had lost every thing? 

5. His reading list was lot longer than one can imagine by reading him superficially. He constantly kept himself updated with the latest developments. The poem "Africa" is an example of the ability he had to grasp the core idea of "people's history". In his "Shesher Kobita" ( probably) Amit is found to read James Williams's "Pragmatism". We can come up with many such examples. The bottom line is that it may not be impossible that Rabindranath was somehow exposed to EPM. 

Regards. 

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On Nov 24, 2013, at 1:04 PM, "Sankar Kumar Ray" <sankarray62@rediffmail.com> wrote:

 

I thank Dr Subimal Chakrabarty to comment on my posting. But there are some misunderstanding. I never stated that Rabindranath read or mentioned Marx. At least I do not know.
I have three points to note. First, one doesn't find any mention of ' alienation' in Lenin's writing. One may say that Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844 (Marx) wasn't known to Lenin as it was discovered by Riazanov eight years after Lenin's death. But Rabindranath referred to 'alienation' almost directly much before the publication of EPM.
On the 150th birth anniversary of Rabindranath, I wrote in an article in Hindustan Times, "Differences notwithstanding, Marx and Tagore had the same goal: emancipation of individuals. Marx envisioned "a reunion of free individuals". Tagore harped on the same point in every sphere of life. They had a striking similarity in the ideation of alienation. Two workers in Tagore's play Red Oleanders (1925) introduce themselves as '47-O' and '69-E', an idea propounded by Marx in his 'Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844', which wasn't known in India even during the Stalin era. "The worker", Marx wrote, "only feels himself outside his work" and gives in to "forced labour". In his lyric 'The Tame Bird Was In A Cage', Tagore says "They flutter their wings in yearning, and sing, 'Come closer, my love!'/The free bird cries, 'It cannot be, I fear the closed doors of the cage.'/The cage bird whispers, 'Alas, my wings are powerless and dead.'" . (http://www.hindustantimes.com/comment/edits/brotherhood-of-man/article1-695456.aspx).

Second, Marx (Engels too) did not differentiate between socialism and communism, but perceived them as synonymous. Other synonyms are republic of labour, society of free and associated producers, reunion of free individuals, society of free and associated producers etc.This basic understanding was demolished by Lenin, subsequently by Bolsheviks , later by Stalin, Mao and the entire 20th Century socialism (?)  (Farida may kindly note that this understanding made me refer to Rabindranath's 'Amra Sabai Raja Amader-er Rajar rajotwe and I have no reason to revise my perception).
Third, Rabindranath did not endorse the violent ( crudely anarchic) path but never opposed the endeavour for freedom. He differed with the means, not the ends.
Anyway, let's debate but not in an irrational, obstinate and/or malignant way.




From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 22:46:57
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মার্ক্সবাদীদের প্রতি
 

No doubt Rabindranath should not be compared with Marx. Rabindranath was great in his own way. I am not sure if he has ever written or said any thing about Marx. In one of his articles late Dr. Ahmad Sharif (ex-professor of Dhaka University and a recipient of Ananda Puroshkar) mentioned that Rabindranath lived in England when Marx was still active. He wondered why Rabindranath had no curiosity about this man who was at that time writing all the radical stuff.

Those who have read Sarat Chandra's novel "Pother Dabi" may remember that the said novel indulged in radical thinking and actions. An underground political party was working among the proletarian class in the then Burma with an ultimate objective to free India from the British colonial rule. Although he himself was a veteran Congress leader his hero of the novel dreamed of a "kind of free India" that the Congress party was not fighting for. The book was banned. Sarat requested Rabindranath to protest the ban which the latter declined to do. We cannot say that Rabindranath was in favor of British rule. We can only say that although basic ultimate objective may be same, tactics and strategies may differ let alone the desired time frame.      


On Saturday, November 23, 2013 9:15 AM, Sankar Kumar Ray <sankarray62@rediffmail.com> wrote:
 
Dear Farida:
Thanks for the article on Hobsbawm, a hot favourite, and  a legendary historian but not a great Marxist. Did you find any reference on two of the greatest Marxists of the 20th Century - M Rubel and Anton Pannenko? They and Riazanov were unquestionably the 3 greatest Marx scholar, much much above Lenin, Trotsky, Bukharin and even Lukacs and Gramsci.

About Rabindranath. Please read Paresh Chattopadhyay's Manusher Mukti-Marx in Saradiya Anustup of 1417. PC, drew parallel between Rabindranath and Marx. BS. Rabindranath understood alienation as the fall-out of aggressive capitalism in not only essays of co-operation but in Raktakarabi.
Farida, kindly read communism of Marx and Engels. Marx called of 'collective self-authority'.. Rabindranath- sammilito atmokortritwa.Marx and Rabindranath had different world outlook but they had no difference on the dangers of State and society of free and mutually cooperative society unlike Lenin,Stalin,Mao and Trotsky too.

I think moderrators too did not read the papers I sent. I am helpless. I maintain that Amra Sabai Raja encapsulates the essence of communist or socialist society. 

Best,
Sankarda




From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 04:22:29
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মার্ক্সবাদীদের প্রতি
 
  Sankar da,
                     Don't be fooled with "amra sobai raja".  It is a stunt! I have never reconciled with Rabindranath's Raja-preeti.  Here is an article on Eric Hobsbaum that I think you will enjoy.

 
 
 
The Nation
Published on The Nation (http://www.thenation.com/)

The Man Who Knew Almost Everything

Ramachandra Guha | November 12, 2013

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To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:27:42 -0800
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মার্ক্সবাদীদের প্রতি

 

I am not sure what these people are humping on but this quiz show might help some of our diehards to alleviate their gas and other ailments. Enjoy! 
-SD

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"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:40 PM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
"Marx had a Math Manuscripts, one Manuscript on chemistry, several on geology and ethnology."

Mr. Ray, what does the above statement mean?

You said Marxism is a jungle; I think your above statement reflect that jungle. It appears to me that - you have been spending enormous amount of your time and effort studying and promoting Marxism. What's the objective? Do you see Marxism is coming back slowly, and it will be fully implemented someday? Or, you see a new social philosophy is being born in America, China, Russia, and Europe out of fusion of Capitalism and Marxism. I see the latter scenari


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[mukto-mona] 'কি বিচিত্র এই দেশ সেলুকাস!!!'



'কি বিচিত্র এই দেশ সেলুকাস!!!'
বাংলাদেশ থেকে এক তরুণ বন্ধু লিখেছেন: 'আমাদের দেশের রাজনিতীবিদগণ সর্বদলীয় সরকার গঠন করতে অসমর্থ হলেও, সংখ্যালঘুদের বাড়ি-ঘর, ব্যবসা প্রতিষ্ঠান  ধর্মীয় উপাসনালয়ে হামলা করতে সর্বদলীয়ভাবে ঐক্যবদ্ব।'
শিতাংশু গুহ 
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Re: [mukto-mona] “Amra Sobai Raja Amader Aai Rajar Rajatteye ….”



Let see what I said in my previous post. I started with … some people are dragging Rabindra Nath into the discussion of Marxism because of his infamous quote: Amra Sobai Raja …. I just wanted to expand on this particular line of thought.

So, I posed a rhetorical question - if Rabindra Nath was a Marxist or not, and I argued against the notion that he was a Marxist. I think, you will also agree with me there. That can't be an outrageous or slanderous or malicious act. I never accused you of calling him a Marxist; it was my rhetorical question. You must have misunderstood my point.

My intent was to give my interpretations of the quote: Amra Sobai Raja ….. That's all. That can't be an outrageous or slanderous or malicious act.  Can it?

Regards'
 
Jiten Roy
 


On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 6:09 PM, Sankar Kumar Ray <sankarray62@rediffmail.com> wrote:
 
Where did I say, Rabindranath was a Marxist? Did Dr Subimal Ckakraborty say so?
It is outrageous to say just because Rabindranath looked after revenue administration, he had no right to denounce feudalism. It is slanderous and malicious. Read his introduction to Pramatha Chaudhuri's Rayoter Katha (রায়তের কথা) & Amitabha Chowdhury's     জমিদার রবীন্দ্রনাথ. 




From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 07:32:55
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [mukto-mona] "Amra Sobai Raja Amader Aai Rajar Rajatteye …."
 
I know some people in the forum are trying to drag Rabindra Nath into Marxism because Rabindra Nath wrote:
 
"Amra Sobai Raja Amader Aai Rajar Rajatteye …."
 
Was he a Marxist?
 
In my view, the above quote is much more meaningful in the spiritual world, not in the context of the natural world affairs. No doubt - Rabindra Nath was conscious about the social circumstances, but he was much more conscious about the spiritual world. This is my personal opinion only.
  
Not being a scholar or even an avid reader of Tagore-literature, I can only express my own views on the meaning of the above quote. I think, he meant that – we are not insignificant in the kingdom of God; we are all parts of the king of the universe?
 
 
Why do I think so? As far as I know - Rabindra Nath was very much involved in the tax-collection efforts of the family Zamindari business. So, he could not denounce Zamindari. If that is true, he can't denounce feudalism. Otherwise, he may have meant to stand against the British Rajtantra; it's quite plausible. That's why - I believe, above quote has very little meaning in the context of the social revolution.
 
 
Jiten Roy

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