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Thursday, May 26, 2011

[ALOCHONA] War Crimes Fugitive Radko Mladic Arrested



 
 
http://www.readersupportednews.org/news-section2/306-10/6055-war-crimes-fugitive-mladic-arrested-in-serbia
 
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Serbia's war crimes office said in a statement that the arrest represents "the fulfillment of justice."

 

"The victims and their families have long waited for this moment," it said in a statement. "Serbia has fulfilled its moral obligation toward the victims and their families."

 

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Comments:

 

       In the case of Bangladesh genocide of 1971, the perpetrators roam free, and had even been rewarded by various govt. positions of power.  If nowadays victims of 1971 and their family members were to speak of fulfillment of justice, they will be hooted into silence by a class of people.   Victims will be shamed into being whimperers, capable of doing nothing but singing a few emotional songs. They will be called spies of India.  Repeated attempts to hold a War Crimes Tribunal and try the well-known accused collaborators of Pakistani Army have been aborted due to political manipulations.

 

          It is internationally acknowledged that the genocide committed in Bangladesh was one of the worst genocides since World War II outstripping Rwanda (800,000) and probably surpassing even Indonesia (1 million to 1.3 million in 1965-66).

 

         Recently there has been a book written that is aimed at "busting the myth of Bangladesh War of 1971."  The author of this book, Sarmila Bose (an American of Indian-Bengali origin), claims that accounts of the crimes against humanity have been widely exaggerated by the "dominant narrative" and a mythologised history.

 

           Certain class of Bangladeshis feel 'morally obliged' to support Sarmila Bose and her 1971-Myth-busting campaign! It is not comprehensible what obligation that might be.

 

           Hope of fulfillment of justice is therefore still distant for the 1971 genocide victims and their family members in Bangladesh even though there is now, 40 years after the events, an International Crimes Tribunal set in motion in Dhaka.

 

 

              Farida Majid

 

 



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Re: [ALOCHONA] RE: International Crimes Tribunal



 
Who is this Farida Majid? Is she the new Imam of Awami Ulema League?


--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] RE: International Crimes Tribunal
To: "Alochona Alochona" <alochona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:05 PM

 
                It is encouraging to see someone showing interest in the ongoing International Crimes Tribunal in Dhaka.
 
However, there are some serious misgivings in some of the basic ideas expressed here. I will try to touch upon a few:
 
1.  Only the State, not individuals, can bring charges of War Crimes at a specially set up Tribunal (i.e. not an ordinary criminal court).
      We, the citizens, have been pressing for a trial of the war crimes of 1971 for all these years, yet no 'regime' in power, not even the Awami League led regime in 1996, had been forthcoming until this present Govt.  It should not be forgotten that one of the election campaign promises made in 2008 by the Awami League and its alliance parties was to hold the War Crimes Trial. It really was the people's mandate to hold the War Crimes Tribunal.  I  do not see how any doubt can be expressed about that.
 
             Therefore, I am not sure what  you are doubtful about.  The Tribunal has been set up due to intense pressure from the non-partisan Citizens' Groups.  And, we are already complaining about the lack of Govt. efficiency.  The Govt. funding is not adequate. Nor are there enough legal and experienced professionals manning the Prosecution.  The Jamaatis, on the other hand, are massively armed with expensive Counsels, some hired from abroad.  Talk about "dominant narrative"!  The Defence section of this Tribunal is a spectacle of DOMINANCE!  They are also very clever in spreading lies and rumors.
 
2.   An International War Crimes Tribunal has to abide by certain international Conventions and Treaties to which Bangladesh is a signatory.  The Dhaka Tribunal has been assured of logistical support by the UNDP.
 
       Your feeling that it is "trap" to punish the Opposition -- a ridiculously illogical concept to begin with -- simply flies in the face of reality.  Think of it carefully  -- members of the Opposition were either involved in war crimes of 1971 or not.  Suddenly, after 40 years, one cannot be trapped as a 'war criminal'.  Since the present Tribunal intends to bring to justice only those personnel against whom there had been proven evidence, as symbolic of the massive accounts of atrocities committed during the months of 1971, there can be no logic or basis to the allegations of setting up a trap.
 
3.  Once again, the Tribunal is an entity totally separated from the rest of the country's normal, day-to-day judiciary mechanism.
        You, and all the others should follow the progress of the Tribunal and then give your opinions in a more knowledgeable way.
        For example, here is a latest piece of news:
 
http://www.unbconnect.com/component/news/task-show/id-48496
 
         Hope I have been able to clear certain ideas.  It would be beneficial for all -- on every side of the conflict -- not to form assumptions based on deliberately disseminated misinformation.
 
                 Farida Majid 

To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: msahmed21@yahoo.co.uk
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 05:24:27 +0100
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re International Crime Tribunal

 
Undoubtedly, every victims of crime deserves sympathy and  every criminal deserve punishment for the crimes they have committed. Indeed we are in a position to offer our supports and symparhy to the victims of 1971. But unfortunately, none of us are in a position to bring the real criminals to justice.
 
The tribunal that has been set by the regime in power in Bangladesh has so far failed to convince the nation that they are actually trying to bring the real war criminals to justice. Most of none partisan citizens like my self are in doubt about the international crime tribunal and the intention of the government.
 
Many of us feel that the govt has created a trap in the name of international war crime tribunal to punish a group of people they dislike.
 
Since the present government came into power, are we convinced that the judiciary has been functioning independently? There are many verdict given by the HC and SC which are clear evidence of partisanship judgement in favour of the government. Under these circumstances, it is most likely that many innocent people will become victim of the trap that has been created.
 
Unfortunately, our nation is blindly divided into two group, one is AL and the other is BNP. When BNP comes into power, they promote their own judges, Police Officers, Attorney General etc. The same happends when AL comes into power, which is why, it is not going to be a fair trial. In fact, this trial will create a ground for another trial and our vengeance politics will continue. The only option we have to get the internal and international approval of a fair trial if we can hire some international Judges from ICC, The Hague or Nnuremberg.
 
Khoda Hafiz.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



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[ALOCHONA] FW: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] Serajur Rahman: Death toll 3 lakh in 1971 war




"A nation who can not count their dead is a dead Nation"

The word 'count' was missing in the above underlined sentence in the first email. 
 
SS  


From: shahadathussaini@hotmail.com
To: history_islam@yahoogroups.com; bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com; alochona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] Serajur Rahman: Death toll 3 lakh in 1971 war
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 07:02:08 -0400

"A nation who can not their dead is a dead Nation"
 
The caption is from an article or an email I had received earlier. It is pathetic to live with totally unfounded figures. Three millions gives us a count of 11,111 persons dead per day in a nine month period. Not only that, the statistics comes out to be 50 persons per occupying forces.
Shahadat Suhrawardy 

To: history_islam@yahoogroups.com
From: zoglul@hotmail.co.uk
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 00:10:52 +0100
Subject: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] Serajur Rahman: Death toll 3 lakh in 1971 war

 
Serajur Rahman, retired deputy head, BBC Bengali Service, London, expressed his surprise and horror at Mujib's figure of 3 million Bangladeshi war dead (because of Mujib's wild exaggeration). In a letter to the Guardian, UK, on 24 May 2011, he stated that he mentioned to Mujib, on 8 January 1972, the figure of three lakh (three hundred thousand) as their (BBC's?) estimate of the death toll in 1971 war, but Mujib in an interview with David Frost, mentioned the figure to be 3 million, which may be a mistranslation or a confusion.  
 
(However, there are people who think that the figure of 3 million was prompted to Mujib by India. Even after 40 years of the war, there has been no national or international field investigation to determine the death toll figure. Even if it is done now, it has to be done objectively, without political bias and with no scopes for distortions. The published figures, so far, vary greatly. The Hamoodur Rahman commission of Pakistan put the figure as low as 26,000 civilian casualties, whereas published books vary with figures between 200,000 and 3 million.)
 
Serajur Rahman's letter to the Guardian, UK, is as follows: 
(Please click to read)       

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/24/mujib-confusion-on-bangladeshi-deaths?INTCMP=SRCH   

 

 



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[ALOCHONA] RE: [Diagnose] USA Honors Yunus! Honors Bangladesh!



Dear Mr. Hasan:
Cough little more. Looks like you have more important information for long long time. Even today, you are trying to hide for the sake Dr. Yunus. What you are telling if truth, don't you think it as personal vendetta to pronounce 'Shudkhor' before any investigation? What about famous qoute, "Bagh O Chharre, kintu Hasina Chharren Na, Proman Yunus" by famous MP Suronjit Sengupta? I think if many Bangladeshis comtemplate 'Sk' as short form for 'Sick'  and start saying Sick Hasina, hukka hua party members or sychophants of BAL we will not be able to stop them. I suggest that let us all not be baby anymore.
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy 
 


To: diagnose@yahoogroups.com
From: khalidhasan@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 23:17:41 -0400
Subject: RE: [Diagnose] USA Honors Yunus! Honors Bangladesh!

 
HEY DONT BHAVE LIKE A CHILD. gET THE FACT ABOUT YOUNUS AND HIS MISDEEDS IN gRAMEEN RELATED ENTEPRISES.  i WONT BE SURPRISED IF NOBEL COMMITTEE RECALLS THE NOBEL TO YOUS FOR HIS DECEIT AND ABUSE OF gRAMEEN AND RAPEING THE POORS UNDER THE GUISE OF A BENEFACTOR.  PM sk hasina has nothing to do here except providing courage to Bangladesh Bank to do what is needed of them to stand against the stature of Younus.
Jumping in Younus bandwagon will not help Bangladesh cause at all.  How younus enhanced Bangladesh image when he wrote to donor agencies about fraud and corruption in the Government and his organiztion as the only non corrupt NGO to receive money instead of BD Government?
Think baby think and grow up.  Dont cry for Younus Toy.  As time passes you will know more about Younus wealth and properties and also of his family.  Younus abused his family as well by sheilding his unethical oprations in the name of many of his family members.  Wait and see. 

To: Diagnose@yahoogroups.com
From: ruptan@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 07:50:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [Diagnose] USA Honors Yunus! Honors Bangladesh!

 
Hi,
Rightfully said. Hasina is trying to destroy anything that is dear and heart to Bangladesh and trying to make this country anther province of India. She should be tried for treason for destroying the reputation of Bangladesh and being an Indian Rajakar.


On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Rahman <therahmans@yahoo.com> wrote:
 


Dear All,
 
Don't you think this is another slap on the face of our PM Sheikh Hassina and her puppet Judiciary authorities of Bangladesh?
 
She may get so jealous that she would start seriously reconsidering  our relationship with the USA. Alas ! she has so much to lose.Therefore, she has no option but to shamelessly accept the slap.Sad that she would not even be able to congratulate Dr. Yunus for this award.
 
A proud Bangladeshi. 

Haji Kazi H Rahman


--- On Sun, 5/22/11, Abu Zafar Mahmood <rivercrossinternational@yahoo.com> wrote:
Received: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 11:41 AM


 

USA Honors Yunus! Honors Bangladesh
Abu Zafar Mahmood, USA

A news page of Planet`s History that the source of knowledge, source of continuous strength for humanity.
US Embassy in Dhaka published the news in their wave page, "On Tuesday, October 5, 2010, President Barack Obama signed into law S. 846, which provides for the award of a Congressional Gold Medal to Nobel Laureate Dr. Muhammad Yunus in recognition of his contributions to the fight against global poverty.
The Congressional Gold Medal is the nation's highest civilian award given to individuals who perform an outstanding deed or act of service to the security, prosperity, and national interest of the United States. Through his Grameen Bank, Dr. Yunus has pioneered the microcredit movement and helped hundreds of millions of people around the world break out of poverty.
Dr. Yunus will become only the seventh person in history to receive the Nobel Peace Prize, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and the Congressional Gold Medal. Former recipients of the Congressional Gold Medal include George Washington, Sir Winston Churchill, Elie Wiesel, Pope John Paul II, Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and Coretta Scott King."
Let`s pay respect to White House and the global leaders for great attitude toward our lighthouse and Bangladesh. Let`s stand united in supporting President Barack H Obama.
(Writer is a free-lance Journalist and political analyst. E-mail: rivercrossinternational@yahoo.com & azmnyc@gmail.com






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[ALOCHONA] RE: [Diagnose] USA Honors Yunus! Honors Bangladesh!



Dear Mr. Hasan:
Cough little more. Looks like you have more important information for long long time. Even today, you are trying to hide for the sake Dr. Yunus. What you are telling if truth, don't you think it as personal vendetta to pronounce 'Shudkhor' before any investigation? What about famous qoute, "Bagh O Chharre, kintu Hasina Chharren Na, Proman Yunus" by famous MP Suronjit Sengupta? I think if many Bangladeshis comtemplate 'Sk' as short form for 'Sick'  and start saying Sick Hasina, hukka hua party members or sychophants of BAL we will not be able to stop them. I suggest that let us all not be baby anymore.
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy
Washington, DC 
 


To: diagnose@yahoogroups.com
From: khalidhasan@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 23:17:41 -0400
Subject: RE: [Diagnose] USA Honors Yunus! Honors Bangladesh!

 
HEY DONT BHAVE LIKE A CHILD. gET THE FACT ABOUT YOUNUS AND HIS MISDEEDS IN gRAMEEN RELATED ENTEPRISES.  i WONT BE SURPRISED IF NOBEL COMMITTEE RECALLS THE NOBEL TO YOUS FOR HIS DECEIT AND ABUSE OF gRAMEEN AND RAPEING THE POORS UNDER THE GUISE OF A BENEFACTOR.  PM sk hasina has nothing to do here except providing courage to Bangladesh Bank to do what is needed of them to stand against the stature of Younus.
Jumping in Younus bandwagon will not help Bangladesh cause at all.  How younus enhanced Bangladesh image when he wrote to donor agencies about fraud and corruption in the Government and his organiztion as the only non corrupt NGO to receive money instead of BD Government?
Think baby think and grow up.  Dont cry for Younus Toy.  As time passes you will know more about Younus wealth and properties and also of his family.  Younus abused his family as well by sheilding his unethical oprations in the name of many of his family members.  Wait and see. 

To: Diagnose@yahoogroups.com
From: ruptan@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 07:50:53 -0400
Subject: Re: [Diagnose] USA Honors Yunus! Honors Bangladesh!

 
Hi,
Rightfully said. Hasina is trying to destroy anything that is dear and heart to Bangladesh and trying to make this country anther province of India. She should be tried for treason for destroying the reputation of Bangladesh and being an Indian Rajakar.


On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Rahman <therahmans@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Dear All,
 
Don't you think this is another slap on the face of our PM Sheikh Hassina and her puppet Judiciary authorities of Bangladesh?
 
She may get so jealous that she would start seriously reconsidering  our relationship with the USA. Alas ! she has so much to lose.Therefore, she has no option but to shamelessly accept the slap.Sad that she would not even be able to congratulate Dr. Yunus for this award.
 
A proud Bangladeshi. 

Haji Kazi H Rahman


--- On Sun, 5/22/11, Abu Zafar Mahmood <rivercrossinternational@yahoo.com> wrote:
Received: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 11:41 AM


 

USA Honors Yunus! Honors Bangladesh
Abu Zafar Mahmood, USA

A news page of Planet`s History that the source of knowledge, source of continuous strength for humanity.
US Embassy in Dhaka published the news in their wave page, "On Tuesday, October 5, 2010, President Barack Obama signed into law S. 846, which provides for the award of a Congressional Gold Medal to Nobel Laureate Dr. Muhammad Yunus in recognition of his contributions to the fight against global poverty.
The Congressional Gold Medal is the nation's highest civilian award given to individuals who perform an outstanding deed or act of service to the security, prosperity, and national interest of the United States. Through his Grameen Bank, Dr. Yunus has pioneered the microcredit movement and helped hundreds of millions of people around the world break out of poverty.
Dr. Yunus will become only the seventh person in history to receive the Nobel Peace Prize, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and the Congressional Gold Medal. Former recipients of the Congressional Gold Medal include George Washington, Sir Winston Churchill, Elie Wiesel, Pope John Paul II, Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and Coretta Scott King."
Let`s pay respect to White House and the global leaders for great attitude toward our lighthouse and Bangladesh. Let`s stand united in supporting President Barack H Obama.
(Writer is a free-lance Journalist and political analyst. E-mail: rivercrossinternational@yahoo.com & azmnyc@gmail.com







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RE: [ALOCHONA] FW: Tipu Sultan- An essay in imperial villain-making




 "Have you read in today's paper about Khaled Zia's speech at the New Jersey's Senate House where she described Sheikh Mujib's rule in Bangladesh as Stalinist style totalitarian regime" ................................


Is it not true???


Probashi Bangladeshi
Australia






From: farida_majid@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 14:25:15 -0400
Subject: [ALOCHONA] FW: Tipu Sultan- An essay in imperial villain-making



          Have you read in today's paper about Khaled Zia's speech at the New Jersey's Senate House where she described Sheikh Mujib's rule in Bangladesh as Stalinist style totalitarian regime, and how the great Ziaur Rahman rescued the nation by introducing multi-party democracy?  She made no mention of her attendance record at the Parliament in the last two and half years as the Leader of the Opposition.
                            This is the 'dominant narrative' if ever there was one, and one that villifies the victim of a ruthless mass murder.
I wonder what is the engine that empowers her to take possession of this dominant narrative that is making the rounds of the corridors of the State Department and the Whitehall!
 
                             Farida Majid

Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 07:56:56 -0700
Subject: Fw: Tipu Sultan- An essay in imperial villain-making
 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2005/may/24/foreignpolicy.india


An essay in imperial villain-making

A fanatical Muslim despot was resisting the west, there were calls for regime change. We have, of course, been here before
·          
By the end of the 90s, the hardliners calling for regime change in the east found that they had a powerful ally in government. This new president was not prepared to wait to be attacked: he was a new sort of conservative, aggressive in foreign policy, bitterly anti-French, and intent on turning his country into the unrivalled global power. It was best, he believed, simply to remove any hostile Muslim regime that presumed to resist the west. 
There was no doubt who would be the first to be targeted: a Muslim dictator whose family had usurped power in a military coup. According to British sources, this chief of state was an "intolerant bigot", a "furious fanatic" with a "rooted and inveterate hatred of Europeans", who had "perpetually on his tongue the projects of jihad". He was also deemed to be "oppressive and unjust ... [a] sanguinary tyrant, [and a] perfidious negotiator". 
It was, in short, time to take out Tipu Sultan of Mysore. The president of the board of control, Henry Dundas, the minister who oversaw the East India Company, had just the man for the job. Richard Wellesley was sent out to India in 1798 as governor general with specific instructions to effect regime change in Mysore and replace Tipu with a western-backed puppet. First, however, Wellesley and Dundas had to justify to the British public a policy whose outcome had long been decided in private. 
Wellesley therefore began a campaign of vilification against Tipu, portraying him as an aggressive Muslim monster who divided his time between oppressing his subjects and planning to drive the British into the sea. This essay in imperial villain-making opened the way for a lucrative conquest and the installation of a more pliable regime that would, in the words of Wellesley, allow the British to give the impression they were handing the country back to its rightful owners while in reality maintaining firm control. 
It is a truth universally acknowledged that a politician in search of a war is not over-scrupulous with matters of fact. Until recently, the British propaganda offensive against Tipu has determined the way that we - and many Indians - remember him. But, as with more recent dossiers produced to justify pre-emptive military action against mineral-rich Muslim states, the evidence reveals far more about the desires of the attacker than it does about the reality of the attacked. 
Recent work by scholars has succeeded in reconstructing a very different Tipu to the one-dimensional fanatic invented by Wellesley. Tipu, it is now clear, was one of the most innovative and far-sighted rulers of the pre-colonial period. He tried to warn other Indian rulers of the dangers of an increasingly arrogant and aggressive west. "Know you not the custom of the English?" he wrote in vain to the nizam of Hyderabad in 1796. "Wherever they fix their talons they contrive little by little to work themselves into the whole management of affairs." 
What really worried the British was less that Tipu was a Muslim fanatic, something strange and alien, but that he was frighteningly familiar: a modernising technocrat who used the weapons of the west against their inventors. Indeed, in many ways, he beat them at their own game: the Mysore sepoy's flintlocks - as the examples for sale in an auction of Tipu memorabilia at Sotheby's tomorrow demonstrate - were based on the latest French designs, and were much superior to the company's old matchlocks. 
 
Tipu also tried to import industrial technology through French engineers, and experimented with harnessing water-power to drive his machinery. He sent envoys to southern China to bring back silkworm eggs and established sericulture in Mysore - an innovation that still enriches the region today. More remarkably, he created what amounted to a state trading company with its own ships and factories dotted across the Gulf. British propaganda might portray Tipu as a savage barbarian, but he was something of a connoisseur, with a library of about 2,000 volumes in several languages. 
Moreover, contrary to the propaganda of the British, Tipu - far from being some sort of fundamentalist - continued the Indo-Islamic tradition of syncretism. He certainly destroyed temples in Hindu states that he conquered in war, but temples lying within his domains were viewed as protected state property and generously supported with lands and gifts of money and even padshah lingams - a unique case of a Muslim sultan facilitating the Shaivite phallus veneration. When the great Sringeri temple was destroyed by a Maratha raiding party, Tipu sent funds for its rebuilding. "People who have sinned against such a holy place," wrote a solicitous Tipu, "are sure soon to suffer the consequences of their misdeeds." 
Tipu knew what he was risking when he took on the British, but he said, "I would rather live a day as a tiger than a lifetime as a sheep." As the objects in tomorrow's sale show, the culture of innovation Tipu fostered in Mysore stands record to a man very different from that imagined by the Islamophobic propaganda of the British - and the startling inaccuracy of Wellesley's "dodgy dossier" of 1799. The fanatical bigot and savage was in fact an intellectual. 
The whole episode is a sobering reminder of the degree to which old-style imperialism has made a comeback under Bush and Blair. There is nothing new about the neocons. Not only are westerners again playing their old game of installing puppet regimes, propped up by western garrisons, for their own political and economic ends but, more alarmingly, the intellectual attitudes that buttressed and sustained such imperial adventures remain intact. 
Despite over 25 years of assault by Edward Said and his followers, old-style Orientalism is alive and kicking, its prejudices intact, with columnists such as Mark Steyn and Andrew Sullivan in the role of the new Mills and Macaulays. Through their pens - blissfully unencumbered by any knowledge of the Muslim world - the old colonial idea of the Islamic ruler as the decadent, destructive, degenerate Oriental despot lives on and, as before, it is effortlessly projected on a credulous public by western warmongers in order to justify their own imperial projects. Dundas and Wellesley were certainly more intelligent and articulate than Bush or Rumsfeld, but they were no less cynical in their aims, nor less ruthless in the means they employed to effect them. 
 
· William Dalrymple is the author of White Mughals
 
FROM: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2005/may/24/foreignpolicy.india






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[ALOCHONA] RE: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] Serajur Rahman: Death toll 3 lakh in 1971 war



"A nation who can not their dead is a dead Nation"
 
The caption is from an article or an email I had received earlier. It is pathetic to live with totally unfounded figures. Three millions gives us a count of 11,111 persons dead per day in a nine month period. Not only that, the statistics comes out to be 50 persons per occupying forces.
Shahadat Suhrawardy 


To: history_islam@yahoogroups.com
From: zoglul@hotmail.co.uk
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 00:10:52 +0100
Subject: [ History Islam & Beyond . . .] Serajur Rahman: Death toll 3 lakh in 1971 war

 
Serajur Rahman, retired deputy head, BBC Bengali Service, London, expressed his surprise and horror at Mujib's figure of 3 million Bangladeshi war dead (because of Mujib's wild exaggeration). In a letter to the Guardian, UK, on 24 May 2011, he stated that he mentioned to Mujib, on 8 January 1972, the figure of three lakh (three hundred thousand) as their (BBC's?) estimate of the death toll in 1971 war, but Mujib in an interview with David Frost, mentioned the figure to be 3 million, which may be a mistranslation or a confusion.  
 
(However, there are people who think that the figure of 3 million was prompted to Mujib by India. Even after 40 years of the war, there has been no national or international field investigation to determine the death toll figure. Even if it is done now, it has to be done objectively, without political bias and with no scopes for distortions. The published figures, so far, vary greatly. The Hamoodur Rahman commission of Pakistan put the figure as low as 26,000 civilian casualties, whereas published books vary with figures between 200,000 and 3 million.)
 
Serajur Rahman's letter to the Guardian, UK, is as follows: 
(Please click to read)       

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/24/mujib-confusion-on-bangladeshi-deaths?INTCMP=SRCH   

 

 




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[ALOCHONA] BD government undermines national poet



 
That's not true. BTV is full of National Poet Nazrul's programs. Nazrul's picture is always on the screen of BTV.
 
The President of the Government of the Peoples Republic of Bangladesh His Excellency Zillur Rahman himself inaugurated the 3-Day National Program for the celebration of the 112th Birth Anniversary of the National Poet of Bangladesh, which is the highest national honour in a country for a person.
 
Poet (Kobi Guru) Rabindranath's 150th Birth Anniversary celebration was also for 3-Day Program inaugurated by the Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina.
 
Both the National Poet Kazi Nazrul Islam and Bishwa Kobi Rabindranath Tagore are the national heroes of Bangladesh and they are also always alive in the Bengali culture, literature, heritage and history. Please do not try to divide Bengalees by drawing line between the National Poet and Bishwa Kobi. Both are in the hearts of the Bengalees. Please do not try to compare them. They have made their places in the hearts of the Bengalees by their own contributions which cannot be measured and compared.
 
Please remember, it was Bangobandhu Sheikh Mujib and his Government who brought Poet Kazi Nazrul Islam to independent Bangladesh from Kolikata and made him the National Poet of Bangladesh.
 
Thank you.
 
Dr. Mohsin Ali.
 

--- On Thu, 5/26/11, Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] BD government undermines national poet
To:
Date: Thursday, May 26
 
BD government undermines national poet


This is a matter of great shame for the entire nation to witness the way Bangladesh government has recently undermined, if not dampened the great image of national poet Kazi Nazrul Islam. It may be mentioned here that the government organized huge programs and events to celebrate the 150th Birth Anniversary of Rabindra Nath Tagore, while the state-owned Bangladesh Television not only continued programs on Tagore for days, but also erected three large gates with portrait of Rabindra Nath Tagore with Bangla and Hindi greetings texts.

A private television channel also organized a grand event, which was sponsored by a local mobile phone operator, which has recently been purchased by an Indian company. It was learnt from numerous sources that millions of dollars were spent only in Bangladesh for celebrating the 150th Birth Anniversary of Tagore. On the other hand, series of albums both by Tagore singers and singers, who have never sung Tagore songs were released by a number of mostly unknown, if not non-existent audio production companies in Bangladesh. The whole plan was just to give a kind of prophetic and divine touch to the birth anniversary of Tagore, who has been able to successfully establish his self-given title of 'Biswa Kobi' [Global Poet].

I tried to learn as to which international body gave this title to Rabidra Nath Tagore. I even sent hundreds of test messages to people I know in Bangladesh, requesting information on this issue. None of them could come up with any substantial information, except the argument that as Tagore got Nobel Prize in literature, so he is global poet. I reminded them that till date hundreds of poets in the world have already received Nobel Prize in literature, and none of them ever claimed themselves to be Global Poet or Biswa Kobi.

Finally I received the following information on Rabindra Nath Tagore:

The youngest of 13 surviving children, Tagore was born in the Jorasanko mansion in Kolkata of parents Debendranath Tagore [1817–1905] and Sarada Devi (1830–1875). Tagore family patriarchs were the Brahmo founding fathers of the Adi Dharm faith. He was mostly raised by servants, as his mother had died in his early childhood; his father travelled extensively. Tagore largely declined classroom schooling. As Tagore hailed from an elegant family, his father was unwilling to send him to classroom schooling, fearing by mixing with the "low-caste" people in the class, Tagore might get polluted with low-class culture.

Tagore was sent to at a public school in Brighton, East Sussex, England in 1878 to become a Barrister. He first stayed for some months at a house that the Tagore family owned near Brighton and Hove, in Medina Villas; in 1877, his nephew and niece—Suren and Indira, the children of Tagore's brother Satyendranath—were sent together with their mother [Tagore's sister-in-law] to live with him. After staying two years in England, Tagore returned home degreeless in 1880.

It appears from the information, now available, that Rabindranath Tagore was awarded Nobel Prize in consideration of his successful attempt to intermingle the Western-Christian-Hindu philosophy. Rabindranth Tagore was not the recommendation of the Nobel Committee. The Nobel Committee named somebody else. The name of Rabindranath Tagore was not even in the short list of the Nobel Committee. Tagore was awarded the Nobel Prize neither as a Bengali nor as an Indian. He was awarded the prize as an "Anglo-Indian", while prize was accepted by the British Ambassador and it was delivered to the poet in Calcutta [now Kolkata]. Rabindranath Tagore was not very vast in literary productions in the first decade of the last century. In fact, except the limited 250-copy English edition of Gitanjali, hardly there was any English version of Rabindranath Tagore's other books. Not to speak of any Asian, until 1913 even any American was not awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature.

Rabindranath Tagore was a pro-British wealthy successor to the vast property left by his grand father Dwarakanath Tagore. In the first decade of the 20th Century he was the leading-most Bengali intellectual friend of the British Rulers in India. During the last decades of the 19th century and in the early 20th century there were popular uprisings, known as the 'Terrorist Movement' in Bengal. Khudiram Bose was young recruit by such leaders of 'Terrorist Movement' in Bengal. The British Rulers were very much disturbed by the widespread activities of the volunteers of 'Terroist Movement'. They needed to pacify the Bengalis. Nobel Prize for Rabindranath Tagore was an attempt in that direction. Rabindranath Tagore was not known to the West in the first decade of the 20thth century; hardly any body could have had access to his English edition of Gitanjali; this is obvious from the fact that Rabindranath Tagore was named in the short list of the Nobel Committee for the award of the Nobel Prize for literature in 1913. It was said that Rabindranath Tagore was known to the Swidish Academy as an 'Anglo-Indian poet' and not either as an Indian or as a Bengali.

Well, I am not either going to buy these information nor I am willing to reject it. This is not my job at all. What I want to say is, there is no room for anyone to glorify Tagore with any intention of undermining Kazi Narul. The government of Bangladesh should immediately investigate this issue and identify those culprits, who are behind humiliating the national poet.

Kazi Nazrul Islam is the national poet of Bangladesh. And, of course, undermining him is equivalent to showing disrespect to the entire nation.http://www.weeklyblitz.net/1456/bd-government-undermines-national-poet



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