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Wednesday, December 26, 2012

[mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [Bangladesh-Zindabad] জেনারেল জিয়াই যুদ্ধাপরাধী শাহ আজিজকে প্রধানমন্ত্রী করেছিলেন : হাসান ইমাম





2012/12/26 Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
And who released Shah Azizur Rahman and sent a car to give him a ride home?  Who, by the way, reestablished Saka Chowdhury?


2012/12/26 Muhammad Ali <manik195709@yahoo.com>

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জেনারেল জিয়াই যুদ্ধাপরাধী শাহ আজিজকে প্রধানমন্ত্রী করেছিলেন : হাসান ইমাম
ঢাকা, ২৬ ডিসেম্বর ২০১২ (বিডিএনএন২৪) :- বঙ্গবন্ধু সাংস্কৃতিক জোট আয়োজিত সমাবেশে বক্তরা বলেছেন, বিএনপি চেয়ারপার্সন বেগম খালেদা জিয়া বাংলাদেশকে পাকিস্তানের অঙ্গরাজ্য বানানোর ষড়যন্ত্র করছে। তারা বলেন, খালেদা জিয়া রাষ্ট্রীয় ক্ষমতায় এসে জঙ্গীবাদ ও সন্ত্রাসের রাষ্ট্র কায়েম করার জন্য যুদ্ধাপরাধীদের দিয়ে একের পর এক অপকর্ম করিয়েছেন। সারা দেশে তারা বোমা মেরে বাংলাদেশকে একটি তালেবান রাষ্ট্র বানানোর চেষ্টা করেছে। আজ বুধবার দুপুরে জাতীয় প্রেসক্লাবের সামনে বঙ্গবন্ধু সাংস্কৃতিক জোট আয়োজিত মানববন্ধন ও সমাবেশে বক্তরা এ কথা বলেন। যুদ্ধাপরাধী পুনর্বাসনকারীদের বিচার ও মানবতাবিরোধী অপরাধীদের বিচারের রায় কার্যকর করে জাতিকে কলঙ্কমুক্ত করার দাবীতে এ মানবন্ধন ও সমাবেশের আয়োজন করা হয়।
সংগঠনের সহ-সভাপতি মোবারক শিকদারের সভাপতিত্বে সভায় সাংস্কৃতিক ব্যক্তিত্ব সৈয়দ হাসান ইমাম, কৃষক লীগের সহ সভাপতি এম এ করিম, জোটের কেন্দ্রীয় নেতা কবি রবীন্দ্র গোপ, স্বাধীন বাংলা বেতার কেন্দ্রের কণ্ঠশিল্পী মনোরঞ্জন ঘোষাল, জোটের সাধারণ সম্পাদক অরুন সরকার রানা, মানবাধিকার কর্মী ফাতেমা জামান সাথী প্রমুখ বক্তব্য রাখেন। মুক্তিযুদ্ধের স্বপক্ষের শক্তিকে ঐক্যবদ্ধ হওয়ার আহ্বান জানিয়ে সাংস্কৃতিক ব্যক্তিত্ব সৈয়দ হাসান ইমাম বলেন, যুদ্ধাপরাধীমুক্ত জঙ্গীবাদ, সাম্প্রদায়িকতার বিরুদ্ধে জননেত্রী শেখ হাসিনার নেতৃত্বে আমাদের সবাইকে ঐক্যবদ্ধ থাকতে হবে। তিনি বলেন, ৭১'র পরাজয়ের প্রতিশোধ নেয়ার জন্যই জেনারেল জিয়াউর রহমান কুখ্যাত যুদ্ধাপরাধী শাহ আজিজুর রহমানকে বাংলাদেশের প্রধানমন্ত্রী করেছিলেন, যুদ্ধাপরাধী আব্দুল আলিমকে মন্ত্রী পরিষদে স্থান দিয়েছিলেন, গোলাম আজমকে বাংলাদেশের নাগরিকত্ব দিয়ে দেশ ও জাতির সাথে বেঈমানী করেছেন।
 






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Re: [mukto-mona] About communalism and non communalism--please see my writeup as lot peole accuse Islamists of communalism--please circulate



" How do you use your God? Meditate on  Him? If yes, how? Any rituals? And why do you need it any way? Do you pray? And if yes, what are your prayers? I mean what do you pray for?"

I use God whenever I need it for psychological support. I do not pray without specific need, and there is no special language or verse for prayer. 

Someone was about to die of lung cancer. When the news spread, people arranged a mass-prayer session in the a temple. They asked me to join the prayer, and I did. About 200 people gathered in the temple. Everybody was praying for his recovery from this dreadful disease. I was hoping that at least someone in the crowd will be able to draw the attention of God through his/her prayer, and a miracle will occur. Two days later, I heard the news of his death. 

 

In my view - prayer is for psychological help only. Those who attended prayer felt that they have done something for that person at the time of his need; that helped them console themselves after his death.

 

Jiten Roy



--- On Wed, 12/26/12, Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] About communalism and non communalism--please see my writeup as lot peole accuse Islamists of communalism--please circulate
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 26, 2012, 9:04 AM

 

By the word "creed" Jung may have meant what is commonly known as "organized religion". Even those who belong to an organized religion may have quite different images or ideas of God. My father and mother, for example, had different constructs of God. While my father's connection to a God was mostly mystical and spiritual, my mother's one was a mixture of mysticism and prayers for some mundane benefits. 
May I ask you some personal questions? How do you use your God? Meditate on  Him? If yes, how? Any rituals? And why do you need it any way? Do you pray? And if yes, what are your prayers? I mean what do you pray for? 
I know even atheists pray or wish for things. 
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On Dec 25, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

"But how do you distinguish this customized God from a God, for example, a specific religion? And why should one prefer a customized God to a God that he has acquired through social training?"
 
Well, I said make your own God because - the image of God that comes through the social training comes with a baggage, called religion. And, religions are divisive phenomena, to all in our societies, but not God, at least to most people.
 
Jiten Roy

 

 

--- On Tue, 12/25/12, subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] About communalism and non communalism--please see my writeup as lot peole accuse Islamists of communalism--please circulate
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 10:44 AM

 
So you are saying that religions and all the related rituals, etc. are man made. I agree. Is God man made or no? Are there not many Gods like religions? Yes, you have given the answer already: create your own God. But how do you distinguish this customized God from a God, for example, a specific religion? And why should one prefer a customized God to a God that he has acquired through social training? 
Now let me talk about Jung. I do not think Jung had a conventional Christian God. Despite the risk involved in providing isolated quotes, I will make some quotes from Jung whenever I will deem it necessary. Jung distinguishes clearly between "creed" and "religion". "A creed gives expression to a definite colletive belief, whereas the word religion expresses a subjective relationship to a certain metaphysical, extramundane factors." "----- the meaning and purpose of religion lie in the relationship of the individual to God (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) or to the path of salvation and liberation (Buddhism)." Looks like he is O.K with a religion with God or without God. But he is advocate of infinite freedom of an individual. He does not seem to approve of the intervention of the state (example, a communist state) or a creed (example, represented by a church) in the world of an individual.
My comments are based on my understanding of the content of a 113-page small but not necessarily an easy book by Jung (ideas came when he was 83.) This seems to be a wonderful book although we may not agree with him on every assertion he made.
    

From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] About communalism and non communalism--please see my writeup as lot peole accuse Islamists of communalism--please circulate
 
Yes, Jung could not negate religion because he could not think of the existence of God without religion. Most people cannot separate God and religion; it's a foreign idea to them, but – not to me. I know - religion is not created by God. How do I know? Well, if He did, there would have been only one religion, not hundreds. Therefore, when I see hundreds of religions, I immediately ask myself who created all those religions on earth, and I know who did. It's created by the human.

I alluded before, most people need a God, but do not need hundreds of religions. In my view – all those rituals, prayers, worshiping, etc. are introduced by humans, not God. God does not need any of these religious rituals and mumbo-jumbo practices. Therefore, just do the right things, and use the image of God in your own way whenever you need; you will be just fine. 

Jiten Roy


--- On Sun, 12/23/12, subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] About communalism and non communalism--please see my writeup as lot peole accuse Islamists of communalism--please circulate
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2012, 11:58 AM

 
"-------it can bring psychological solace from grief, emotions, and distresses."---Jiten Roy.
 
I cannot agree more. But are grief, emotions, and distress not major issues in human life? Jung has seen the modern man overwhelmed with all this and that's why he has not negated religion. He has rather has seen religion as a vital necessity.
I am not saying that I completely agree with Jung. However, personally I have been doing fine without a God since I realized that I do not need it 45 years ago. I have developed my own defense mechanism with moral and ethical values, ideological and political beliefs, and other branches of knowledge. As I have said before, I have been living happily with and among the believers. I do not get along well with the peddlers of religions and communalists. I never ridicule the believers although I criticize the hypocrats.    
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] About communalism and non communalism--please see my writeup as lot peole accuse Islamists of communalism--please circulate
 
"I got the impression that Dr. Roy believes religion to be at the root of all evils.  Hope he would confirm it."
Dr. Das, you are right, and I agree with you on the subject of religion. Religion was needed in the past to motivate and educate illiterate people to do right things. It helped bringing us to the point where we are today. In the developing phase of humanity, there was no other intention for religion other than bring people in the right path. It's like teachers using various aides in the kindergarten and primary schools to explain various concepts to the student. There is no other way they could do it. But, as students builds up the concept  and knowledge  bases in higher grades, teachers do not need those silly aides anymore and gradually phase them out, and stop bringing  those aides into the classroom. If teachers still bring some of those kindergarten aides in the college or university level classes, students will start laughing at them. 
 
Unfortunately, believers in religion never graduated from the kindergarten school.  Their mental maturity never occurred. That's because - religion peddlers made sure that they never graduate from kindergarten to exploit them for their personal and political interests. For example, many religions will forbid any changes or modifications to the edicts; they are set in stones. Followers either do it that way or not at all; there is no other way. In my view, such rigidity was introduced to perpetuate personal interests forever. 
 
I agree with you, in this day and age, religion has very limited utility. I understand there are some convicts and drug addicts still use religion to come to the right path. There will always be some of those people who will find religion useful.  But, the division, hatred, and destruction in life and property, created by religion, in the human society out-way whatever gains it will bring to our lives. So, there is no net-positive for religion; in fact, it's a public nuisance, in my view.  
 
Having said all these, I still feel that - some sort of image of God is important to explain many unknowns of our lives; it can bring psychological solace from grief, emotions, and distresses.  
 
I hope that - this will clarify my position on the subject.
 
Jiten Roy
--- On Fri, 12/21/12, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] About communalism and non communalism--please see my writeup as lot peole accuse Islamists of communalism--please circulate
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 21, 2012, 11:51 PM

 
I got the impression that Dr. Roy believes religion to be at the root of all evils.  Hope he would confirm it.  I, however, am less sure about the evil nature of religion.  I consider religion was necessary item to unite the primitive society.  In today's universe, it is unnecessary.  Even when the priests ruled the societies, they knew the emptiness of the concept.  One of the Caesars, Caligula, insisted on his statue being placed in the reconstructed Jewish Temple in Jerujalem(Dar-es-Salam in Islamic parlance).  His advisers reminded him t


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কাশিম-কুটিরের কথপোকথন !!
শমশের মুবিন : গুড ইভিনিং মেডাম , হঠাত করে এই গভীর রাতে তলবের কারণ ?
খালেদা : আপনিতো ভালো করেই জানেন যে দু:শ্চিন্তায় পরলেই আপনাকে তলব করি , দলের
নীতিনির্ধারকদের বাদ দিয়ে আপনার উপদেশ নিয়ে থাকি বিশেষ করে সরকারের বিরুদ্ধে নানা রকম
ষড়যন্ত্র করার বিষয়ে
শমশের : মেডাম , এবার আপনার দু:শ্চিন্তার বিষয়ে বলুন , দেখি তার নিরসনে এই বান্দা কিছু করতে পারে কিনা ?
খালেদা : এই সরকার ক্ষমতায় আসার পর থেকেই বিডিয়ার হত্যাকান্ড থেকে শুরু করে কত ষড়যন্ত্রই না করলাম , তার পরেও
সরকারকে টলানো যাচ্ছে না , উল্টো বিদেশী পত্র-পত্রিকায় দেশের উন্নয়নে সরকারের সাফল্যের খবর যে ভাবে
প্রচারিত হচ্ছে তাতে আগামী নির্বাচনে জেতার কোনো সম্ভাবনা দেখছিনা !
শমশের : না মেডাম , আপনি হতাশ হবেন না , ইতিমধ্যেই আমরা আওয়ামী লীগের "সংখ্যালঘু ভোট ব্যংকে " বড় রকমের আঘাত
হেনেছি ! রামুর ঘটনা এবং চীন সফর করে আমরা বৌদ্ধদের মন ইতিমধ্যেই জয় করে ফেলেছি , আগামী নির্বাচনে তার ফল
দেখবেন ৷ আর ভারত সফর আর বিশ্বজিত হত্যাকান্ডের পর হিন্দু সম্প্রদায়ের ভোট আগামী নির্বাচনে কিন্তু আমাদের বাক্সেই
পরবে , এ সবই মেডাম আমার ষড়যন্ত্রের ফসল , তাই আগামী নির্বাচনে জিতলে আমাকে মূল্যায়ন করতে ভুলবেন না কিন্তু !
খ্লালেদা : আরে , "গাছে কাঠাল ,গোফে তেল" এর মত কথা বলবেন না ! কোনো রকমে ক্ষমতায় আসলে আপনি পরবর্তী পররাষ্ট্র মন্ত্রী , এ ব্যপারে
নিশ্চিত থাকবেন , মোর্শেদ খানকে নিয়ে চিন্তা করবেন না ! ইলিয়াস আলীকে গুম করে দিয়ে আপনার নমিনেসন পাওয়ার পথ
সহজ করে দিয়েছি , তাই এলাকায় যেয়ে কাজ করুন ৷ আরে আসল কথা বলতেই ভুলে গেছি , এই বিশ্বজিত কে নিয়ে আমরা যেই
নাটক করেছি তা কিন্তু ধীরে ধীরে জনগনের নিকট খোলাসা হয়ে যাচ্ছে ! দেখবেন পরে যেন "বিশ্বজিতের এই নাটক ফ্লপ হয়ে বিশ্ব-চিট
না হয়ে যায় ! আমার আর ভালো লাগছেনা , এই সরকারকে ক্ষমতাচুত করতে কিছু একটা করুন !
শমশের : মেডাম , আমার মাথায় একটা বুদ্ধি এসেছে , অনুমুতি দিলে বলতে পারি ৷৷
খালেদা : বলুন , ফ্লপ হলেও আপনার পরামর্শ এর আগেও নিয়েছি !
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Re: [mukto-mona] About communalism and non communalism--please see my writeup as lot peole accuse Islamists of communalism--please circulate



By the word "creed" Jung may have meant what is commonly known as "organized religion". Even those who belong to an organized religion may have quite different images or ideas of God. My father and mother, for example, had different constructs of God. While my father's connection to a God was mostly mystical and spiritual, my mother's one was a mixture of mysticism and prayers for some mundane benefits. 
May I ask you some personal questions? How do you use your God? Meditate on  Him? If yes, how? Any rituals? And why do you need it any way? Do you pray? And if yes, what are your prayers? I mean what do you pray for? 
I know even atheists pray or wish for things. 
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On Dec 25, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

"But how do you distinguish this customized God from a God, for example, a specific religion? And why should one prefer a customized God to a God that he has acquired through social training?"
 
Well, I said make your own God because - the image of God that comes through the social training comes with a baggage, called religion. And, religions are divisive phenomena, to all in our societies, but not God, at least to most people.
 
Jiten Roy

 

 

--- On Tue, 12/25/12, subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] About communalism and non communalism--please see my writeup as lot peole accuse Islamists of communalism--please circulate
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 25, 2012, 10:44 AM

 
So you are saying that religions and all the related rituals, etc. are man made. I agree. Is God man made or no? Are there not many Gods like religions? Yes, you have given the answer already: create your own God. But how do you distinguish this customized God from a God, for example, a specific religion? And why should one prefer a customized God to a God that he has acquired through social training? 
Now let me talk about Jung. I do not think Jung had a conventional Christian God. Despite the risk involved in providing isolated quotes, I will make some quotes from Jung whenever I will deem it necessary. Jung distinguishes clearly between "creed" and "religion". "A creed gives expression to a definite colletive belief, whereas the word religion expresses a subjective relationship to a certain metaphysical, extramundane factors." "----- the meaning and purpose of religion lie in the relationship of the individual to God (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) or to the path of salvation and liberation (Buddhism)." Looks like he is O.K with a religion with God or without God. But he is advocate of infinite freedom of an individual. He does not seem to approve of the intervention of the state (example, a communist state) or a creed (example, represented by a church) in the world of an individual.
My comments are based on my understanding of the content of a 113-page small but not necessarily an easy book by Jung (ideas came when he was 83.) This seems to be a wonderful book although we may not agree with him on every assertion he made.
    

From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] About communalism and non communalism--please see my writeup as lot peole accuse Islamists of communalism--please circulate
 
Yes, Jung could not negate religion because he could not think of the existence of God without religion. Most people cannot separate God and religion; it's a foreign idea to them, but – not to me. I know - religion is not created by God. How do I know? Well, if He did, there would have been only one religion, not hundreds. Therefore, when I see hundreds of religions, I immediately ask myself who created all those religions on earth, and I know who did. It's created by the human.

I alluded before, most people need a God, but do not need hundreds of religions. In my view – all those rituals, prayers, worshiping, etc. are introduced by humans, not God. God does not need any of these religious rituals and mumbo-jumbo practices. Therefore, just do the right things, and use the image of God in your own way whenever you need; you will be just fine. 

Jiten Roy


--- On Sun, 12/23/12, subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] About communalism and non communalism--please see my writeup as lot peole accuse Islamists of communalism--please circulate
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, December 23, 2012, 11:58 AM

 
"-------it can bring psychological solace from grief, emotions, and distresses."---Jiten Roy.
 
I cannot agree more. But are grief, emotions, and distress not major issues in human life? Jung has seen the modern man overwhelmed with all this and that's why he has not negated religion. He has rather has seen religion as a vital necessity.
I am not saying that I completely agree with Jung. However, personally I have been doing fine without a God since I realized that I do not need it 45 years ago. I have developed my own defense mechanism with moral and ethical values, ideological and political beliefs, and other branches of knowledge. As I have said before, I have been living happily with and among the believers. I do not get along well with the peddlers of religions and communalists. I never ridicule the believers although I criticize the hypocrats.    
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] About communalism and non communalism--please see my writeup as lot peole accuse Islamists of communalism--please circulate
 
"I got the impression that Dr. Roy believes religion to be at the root of all evils.  Hope he would confirm it."
Dr. Das, you are right, and I agree with you on the subject of religion. Religion was needed in the past to motivate and educate illiterate people to do right things. It helped bringing us to the point where we are today. In the developing phase of humanity, there was no other intention for religion other than bring people in the right path. It's like teachers using various aides in the kindergarten and primary schools to explain various concepts to the student. There is no other way they could do it. But, as students builds up the concept  and knowledge  bases in higher grades, teachers do not need those silly aides anymore and gradually phase them out, and stop bringing  those aides into the classroom. If teachers still bring some of those kindergarten aides in the college or university level classes, students will start laughing at them. 
 
Unfortunately, believers in religion never graduated from the kindergarten school.  Their mental maturity never occurred. That's because - religion peddlers made sure that they never graduate from kindergarten to exploit them for their personal and political interests. For example, many religions will forbid any changes or modifications to the edicts; they are set in stones. Followers either do it that way or not at all; there is no other way. In my view, such rigidity was introduced to perpetuate personal interests forever. 
 
I agree with you, in this day and age, religion has very limited utility. I understand there are some convicts and drug addicts still use religion to come to the right path. There will always be some of those people who will find religion useful.  But, the division, hatred, and destruction in life and property, created by religion, in the human society out-way whatever gains it will bring to our lives. So, there is no net-positive for religion; in fact, it's a public nuisance, in my view.  
 
Having said all these, I still feel that - some sort of image of God is important to explain many unknowns of our lives; it can bring psychological solace from grief, emotions, and distresses.  
 
I hope that - this will clarify my position on the subject.
 
Jiten Roy
--- On Fri, 12/21/12, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] About communalism and non communalism--please see my writeup as lot peole accuse Islamists of communalism--please circulate
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 21, 2012, 11:51 PM

 
I got the impression that Dr. Roy believes religion to be at the root of all evils.  Hope he would confirm it.  I, however, am less sure about the evil nature of religion.  I consider religion was necessary item to unite the primitive society.  In today's universe, it is unnecessary.  Even when the priests ruled the societies, they knew the emptiness of the concept.  One of the Caesars, Caligula, insisted on his statue being placed in the reconstructed Jewish Temple in Jerujalem(Dar-es-Salam in Islamic parlance).  His advisers reminded him t


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