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Friday, November 29, 2013

[mukto-mona] বিএনপি-জামাতের চলমান নাশকতা প্রতিরোধের দুইটি ফর্মুলা :



বিএনপি-জামাতের চলমান নাশকতা প্রতিরোধের দুইটি ফর্মুলা :

(এক) . আটক বিএনপি-জামাতের নেতাদের ভাগ করে যাত্রীবাহী বাসগুলোতে যাত্রী হিসাবে ব্যবহার করলে প্রতিরোধকারীরা আর বাসে  আগুন দিবে না ! এরা যে বাসে থাকবে তা আগে থেকে মিডিয়াতে প্রচার করতে হবে !

(দুই)  বিএনপি-জামাতি দুর্বৃত্তরা বিনা বাঁধাতে ট্রেইন লাইন উপরে ফেলছে আর সরকার অসহায়ের মত তা দেখছে ! কিছু করার  নাই , কেননা আইন -শৃঙ্খলা বাহিনী দ্রুত সেখানে পৌছতে পারছেনা ! তাই এদের দ্রুততার সাথে  প্রতিরোধ করার জন্য আইন-শৃঙ্খলা বাহিনীকে আধুনিক "হেলিকপ্টার গানশিপ" ব্যবহার করার জন্য পরামর্শ দিচ্ছি ৷ উপর থেকে গানশিপ দিয়ে যখন গুলিবর্ষণ করা হবে তখন দুর্বৃত্তরা আর লাইন তুলবেনা , জান বাচাতে দৌড়ের উপর  থাকবে !


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[mukto-mona] Sharing my thoughts on education



Dear All,

I have articulated some of my thoughts on education in a write up (written in Bengali). The write up presents an Indian perspective, however, I believe some of the issues are common across the countries and continents.

http://sauravpeace.wordpress.com/%E0%A6%B8%E0%A6%AE%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%9C-%E0%A6%93-%E0%A6%B6%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%B7%E0%A6%BE/

Regards,

Saurav



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Tata Institute of Fundamental Research
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Mankhurd, Mumbai, India, 400 088
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Re: [mukto-mona] London slavery case: Suspects 'former Maoist activists'



The dwellers of Islamic Heaven would be rewarded with 28 young boys along with seventy two houries.  You can't blame a hujur who practices sodomy in his earthly life.


On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 12:42 AM, subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Mr. QR, please read it carefully before you jump to a conclusion. Mr. Balakrishnan was suspended from the organization in 1974 and later on he formed a "political cult". As I have mentioned before, it would be illogical to blame Islam if an Islamist Madrassa teacher rapes a boy.  


On Friday, November 29, 2013 9:32 AM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:
 
Very interesting and support my perception of communists.

Shalom!


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Subject: [mukto-mona] London slavery case: Suspects 'former Maoist activists'

 
Interesting! Et tu, Brute?
-SD

A married couple suspected of holding three women as slaves for more than 30 years are former Maoist activists Aravindan Balakrishnan and his wife Chanda, the BBC understands.
According to national Marxist records they were leading figures at the Mao Zedong Memorial Centre in Acre Lane, Brixton, south London, in the 1970s.
It was raided by police and five people, including the pair, were held.
Mr Balakrishnan, 73, and his 67-year-old wife were arrested on Thursday.
Three women were rescued from their home in Brixton a month earlier.
The couple have been linked to 13 addresses across London, the Metropolitan Police has confirmed. The force would not confirm or deny their names.
Police carried out house-to-house inquiries in and around Peckford Place, Brixton - where the women were rescued - over the weekend.
Officers said the women had suffered years of "physical and mental abuse".
They lived together as a "collective" after two of the women met the man through a "shared political ideology".
Home affairs correspondent Tom Symonds said several sources had suggested a fifth woman - who was elderly and used a wheelchair - had stayed at the house in Brixton, though it was unclear whether she was a permanent resident.
The Metropolitan Police would neither confirm nor deny the presence of another woman at the property during last week's arrest.
'Psychological cage'
Records of the Communist Party of England (Marxist-Leninist) show Mr Balakrishnan was suspended from the organisation in 1974.
He set up a splinter group in the same year called The Workers' Institute of Marxism-Leninism-Mao Zedong Thought.
It was based at Acre Lane, Brixton. The building was used as a bookshop and political commune.
Local shopkeeper Cliff McKinson said he visited the building on three occasions in the 1970s.
Acre Lane, Brixton A building in Acre Lane, Brixton, was a political commune in the 1970s and is now a restaurant
"They were just sort of gathering inside and outside; I was fascinated, I went there three times," he said.
"There were women who come and go freely, especially in the evenings. I was at work when the police came and raided it."
Professor Dennis Tourish, from the Royal Holloway University of London, said followers of Marxism often committed their lives to their beliefs.
"They develop a number of organisational rituals of which communal living is one," he said.
"The people they are working with and recruiting commit all their resources, including their time and money, and in a sense their souls to supporting the aims and objectives of the group."
Criminal psychologist Dr David Holmes said the details appeared to suggest a "kind of political cult" or "enforced commune" was in effect holding the captives "almost in a psychological cage".
Previous arrests
The three alleged victims, a 30-year-old Briton, a 57-year-old Irish woman and a 69-year-old Malaysian, are in the care of a non-governmental organisation following their rescue last month.
Police said the 30-year-old woman, who is believed to have lived her entire life in servitude, had a birth certificate but no other official papers.
She is said to have written more than 200 impassioned letters and poems to her neighbour over an eight-year period, the Daily Mail reported.
In one of the letters, she said she felt like a "fly trapped in a spider's web" and described her "unspeakable torment".
Map of Brixton
The case came to light after the Irish woman rang Freedom Charity to say she had been held against her will.
The couple were arrested on Thursday on suspicion of being involved in forced labour and slavery. They have also been arrested for immigration offences.
They have been released on bail until January.
'Complex case'
Police said they were of Indian and Tanzanian origin and came to the UK in the 1960s.
Thirty-seven officers from the Met's human trafficking unit are working on the case.
Lambeth Council said it had been working closely with the police in the weeks before the women's rescue.
A spokesperson said: "This is an extremely complex case involving a number of individuals going back decades.
"It is too early at this stage to provide the detail of any contact we may have had with them."
The council said the security, confidentiality and well-being of those involved was paramount.
 
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Re: [mukto-mona] Fw: How Bangladeshi Islamists stole a U.S. Congressional Hearing - a Madeline Brooks article



Why should you react to a barking S.O.B.?


On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 11:54 PM, subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

I agree, Mr. QR's over-reaction is unfortunate. He has not said a single word against the conspiracy that was hatched to hijack a Congressional hearing, he rather questioned this allegation and sources of fund. I don't know why he is calling the group a fanatic Jewish group.  

Personally I am OK with Zionism as a movement to establish a modern Jewish state minus expansionism. Therefore, simply by looking at "Zionism" in the agenda of the group, one should not reject any thing and every thing this group is doing or saying. I believe that Bangladesh is a moderate Muslim country which means that most of the Bangladeshi Muslims are religious but do not indulge in any sort of extremism . But an Islamist who believes in hijab, limited freedom for women, Sharia, Islamic banking, and the concept of Ahmadiyas being not full Muslims cannot claim himself a moderate Muslim. These people (mostly political or illiterate or without modern education/outlook) are the problems and are doing a great harm to our society by spreading wrong message. 

Surprisingly Mr. QR is fine with Prince Talal's policy to have Israel on his side in destroying the Shiaite states of Iran and Syria.

I don't understand why Mr. QR disagrees that the Bangladeshi minorities get scant protection from the Islamists who destroy temples and idols and grabs land belonging to a temple. I agree the social miscreants are not exclusively Islamists though. 

Mr. QR, there was forced conversion during the occupation period of 1971. Even today we see news items on abduction of Hindu girls and forced conversion. I am not aware if any thing effective has been done to stop this kind of crime. It does not matter what political party the perpetrator is coming from, the fact remains that destroying a temple or converting a Hindu girl through coercion is nothing but a worst form of Islamism.  

Mr. QR, why do you think that it is only AL who can protect the Hindus? Why are you not making the same demand to other political parties including BNP? It must be a joint effort.

Mr. QR, Jamaat-e-Islam is not a tiny party. See what they are doing during hartals. Shake off the attitude that it is a kid, it cannot do any harm. Jamaat and many Islamists have the potential to turn Bangladesh into Afghanistan. Take the warning seriously. BNP a party with modern outlook is playing with fire. No doubt, AL historically has secular agenda which have been undermined by the two generals---Zia and Ershad.

Politics is a power game. You need tactical and strategic alliances to ultimately capture power. No doubt AL has done that. AL also has been trying the war criminals most of whom are Jamaatis. Now Jamaat cannot do election. Do not put AL and BNP in the same basket. I am sure AL will restore 1972 constitution if it ever gets a chance, but BNP will never do it.

You suffer from the same "tarnishing the image of the country" phobia. We have many weak and dark areas in Bangladesh. People and organizations will try to eliminate them in their own ways. Why should a Hindu rights group include Muslims? Hiring lobbyists is common practice here. Any party which has money can do it. BNP and Jamaat are doing it. Khaleda wrote a letter to an American agency against Bangladeshi interests. You did not react at that time as you have done now.   


         


On Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:56 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
QR: "This time he is citing article from a Islamophobe writer."

One of the features of Mr. QR is to go after the messenger, not the message.

Here the writer is telling how Bangladeshi fundamentalist network has hijacked the Congressional Hearing about the plights of religious minorities in Bangladesh using their reputed international lobbyist firm. This firm is also lobbying against the War Crime Tribunal in Bangladesh.

This was a hearing on religious minority community, and there was no speaker from the religious minority community to narrate their plights. Isn't it odd? I, on behalf of BHBCUC, wrote a letter to the Chairman of the Hearing Committee recommending some speakers, but that was declined.

Instead of discussing that fact, QR is looking for dirt about the writer and trying to raise questions about the message; he is calling the writer as an Islamophobe, even though the topic was not about Islam at all.

Jiten Roy


On Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:09 AM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:
 
Like everyone member Guha has every right to speak up to improve human right situations in Bangladesh. However the institution he hangs around are well known HATE MONGERS.

Once again I see a lot of FALSE propaganda against PEOPLE of Bangladesh. Mr. Guha at it again. No matter which government is in power, he would find people to blame ONE party for everything that goes wrong in our country.

This time he is citing article from a Islamophobe writer. The organization Ms. Brooks is associated with has the following stated goal.

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So it looks like people like Mr. Guha has tied themselves with well known Zionist/Jewish lobby to influence politics inside Bangladesh. We know the realities behind these attacks. In fact most people who lost their lives in last two years are Muslims. But the false propaganda going around about "Forced conversion" and massive attacks on Hindus!!

Unfortunately attacks on public and communities are true but high lighting ONLY one community with misleading out of context news is what Rajakars did during 1971. I am sadden to see people like Guha (Who claim to be a Bangladeshi) is seeking help from a group of people who are experts in false propaganda.

I have NO problem if the information member Guha is spreading was true but he is working against Bangladesh. Let us see why do I say this..............


Bangladesh is erroneously considered a moderate Muslim country by the State Department.

>>>>>>>>>> This is a falsehood. Common people of this country are not fanatics. In fact time and again they risked their lives standing up against fanatics and sacrificed their lives to protect our natural religious character (Which is liberal).

We have a female head of state, female speaker, female foreign minister (Just resigned) and many female high officials. SHOW me ONE ISLAMIST country with such a portfolio!!

Minorities have scant protection against Islamist depredations such as murder, rape, and burning of their houses and places of worship


>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have an ISLAMIST government? Did our current government get overwhelming majority votes from our people just five years ago? Member Guha is part of BAL (USA wing) and according to this article, he is part of an "Islamist" administration. I like to get some explanation from member Guha. Please clarify your position for us.

There are some mail going around internet showing a disproportionate number of Hindus with high level jobs in Bangladesh. Which only means they have the power to stop most of these atrocities.


This land, which was once solely inhabited by Hindus and Buddhists, now has a minority population of non-Muslims of only about nine percent.  Mass murders, forced conversions, and forced flight account for the drop in numbers.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another bloody lie.

The greater Bengal was "Invaded" by seventeen horsemen. So where is the fictional army who forced the mass to convert? It was sufis who came to Bengal and people came to Islam willingly. The only mass migration was there during 40s riot (When both Hindus and MUSLIMS left their place of birth) and during 71 (When many Hindus chose not to return from India).

We do have problems with law and order but blaming ISLAM (The religion) is a bold face lie and I condemn such hate laced propaganda (Which distorted information to misguide people) against our country.


Right now is an especially frightening time for Bangladeshi minorities, because elections will happen soon.  Historically, that has always meant heightened danger, with Muslim mobs attacking vulnerable minorities no matter what the outcome of the election might be.

>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should be talking to our current government about that. Most people I know are concerned about it but our government is less concern (Our government is secular).

The incumbent party, the Awami League, is nominally secularist and offers some hope for minorities. 

>>>>>>>>> Now the bigoted writer comes to surface. Our people ELECTED a secular government (However they will become ISLAMIST when it is politically necessary!!). This is a FACT no one can deny. Maybe you should drop the false propaganda against your country (If you still claim to be Bangladeshi) and talk to BAL administration.

Opposing it is the Bangladesh National Party, allied with a group called Jamaat-e-Islami, which wants to impose a totalitarian form of Islam on everyone in that country.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Forgot to tell that, Jamaat is a tiny political party and BNP NEVER wanted to impose a totalitarian form of Islam (Yeah with the female leader it would be kinda difficult).

In the 1971 war of liberation, Jamaat was involved in war crimes against Bangladeshis, especially Hindus, who wanted freedom from Pakistan and Islamic fundamentalism.

>>>>>>>>> We have a trial going on against such people. If you folks devoted more time searching for evidence (To validate the allegations) maybe we would have seen better results in the trials.

  While some of AL's judicial practices may be questionable, at bottom, the BNP wants to spare their Jamaat affiliates from possible execution for their past deeds.


>>>>>>>>> "At bottom"??? It looks like some of our Bangu folks co-written this article. However on behalf of our falled heroes of 71, we should seek justice for criminal activities (Murder, rape, looting etc). It does not matter if BNP or BAL is in power. It should be treated as a moral issue.

 The AL views Jamaat as a potential disaster for democracy, much as we would if al-Qaeda were included in our elections,

>>>>>>>>>>> NO. Based on historical evidences it is safe to say this is not view of BAL. They have worked with Jamaat against dictator Ershad (Took part in a bogus election). They have worked in the same platform multiple times throughout the 90s. BAL is well known to be very "Flexible" in politics. For example they took part in movement against Ershad (The dictator) during 80s and now formed a coalition with the same dictator. Same goes for coalition with Jamaat. They were long time buddies until jamaat had the audacity to form coalition with BNP.

This political dance reminds me of the song "Krisno korle lila Khela ar ami korle......."

If our government or any organization strongly feel Jamaat should not be around, please present your case in front of public and make a stern choice. Political dance (Like Ershad) only erodes credibility.


Whatever its flaws might be, the AL is the only present-day bulwark against the Talibanization of Bangladesh.

>>>>>>>>>>>> I think our people are very capable of stopping fanatics. They have good track record of standing up against them. Even recently the hefazot movement was forced to alter some of their demands (Regarding status of women in society) because of mass protest against fringe interpretation of Islam.


The contentious issue of the war crimes tribunals so dominated the House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing that the problem of spreading Islamism and the persecution of minorities received short shrift.

>>>>>>>>> I think protection of minority population is a fundamental right and people of Bangladesh agrees with it. So I see all people from every religion (Islam included) supporting such move.

 BNP sidestepped the intolerance and disrespect for non-Muslims that is the root of the problem.  It was a bizarre and revolting reversal of justice.

>>>>>>>>> If this is a "hit peice" against BNP, just say so. I am not happy to watch bundle the urgent need of minority protection with our current politics. I have NO issue if this type of article is distributed inside the country but this politics should be separated from to need to protect minorities and people with low income. I am concerned that such falsehood is being presented to US congress. ONLY true rajakars/traitors are known to do such things.

The hearing appears to have been hijacked.  Hindu activists believe that a strong BNP lobby is operating in Washingto

>>>>>>>>> The Hindu activists are seeking help from Jewish lobby and India. Unfortunately they kept Muslims out of this issue (Better protection for minorities) and going no where. Long before the time when terms like Islamist, Terrorist etc was known to common people, our mainstream population stood up to seeks right to protect Bangla language and (During 71) to protect our dignity. Most of the time they had the tough reality of standing up against fellow Muslims. It is really unfortunate so called "Hindu activists" (Who claim to be from Bangladesh) do not have faith in our mainstream population. They are too busy promoting false information about Bangladesh and going to India lobby, Jewish lobby and anti-Muslim groups. Such idiotic strategies can backfire. Since the US administration is known to consistently engaged with all political groups. Thus the US administration does not share the extremely biased view of so called "Hindu activists". 

 It is already established that a major lobbying firm, Cassidy & Associates, represents war criminal Mir Abdul Qasim Ali (pictured left), who is held in custody in Bangladesh awaiting trial and possibly execution

>>>>>>>>> That is why it was more important to build a solid case. If the case is solid no lobby group can effect the process. However even gonojagoron mancha (Not a taleban supporter) feels government is NOT serious about war crimes tribunal.

 He is a senior member of Jamaat who supports Wahhabist values

>>>>>>>>>> Did you know that the US is one of the biggest promoters of "Wahabist values" to the globe? Currently sending money to wahabists in Syria? 

Apparently Hartley does not object to working for Islamists, even if they would limit his own freedom if they came to power in the U.S.

>>>>>>>>>> Limit his own freedom? This is one of the biggest crock of shit I have ever seen (Since the fictional ground zero mosque movement--a fiction supported by the same author).



An inescapable question arises: was a paid campaign waged to discredit the war crimes tribunal at the Foreign Affairs hearing in order to spare Hartley's client?


>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it is a good question to ask and answers should be shared to people of Bangladesh. ALSO I like to know WHO is paying for such false campaign against Bangladesh? How much was paid to this fanatic zionist group to write such a erroneous article against people of Bangladesh?

Were Hindus kept off the panel so that they could not give evidence of the complete Islamist take over Bangladesh is facing, and of the persecution that minorities are suffering even now?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My guess would be consistent reliance on false information by self proclaimed "Hindu activists" maybe behind this. It is very unfortunate our poor Hindus have such idiots as their leaders who cannot resists to gain political points by spoiling a just cause like protection of minorities in Bangladesh. Let me say this again, most people support protection of our minority population and our Hindu brothers and sisters should seek more intelligent leaders to make their case (Hopefully include fair minded Muslims in the process). 

A similar question must be raised about the alarming editorial in the NY Times published on the same day.  The Times lays the blame for Bangladesh's growing instability solely on the AL

>>>>>>>>>>> Really how pathetic is this argument? Those who live in the USA and families with NYT must be shocked (or rolling out of their chairs) with such idiotic argument. I guess this one sentence neutralize everything said before about Fictional Islamist government (Bangladesh Awami League!!).

Lastly, Ms. Brooks wrote passionately against "Ground Zero mosque", while such masjid did not even exist on "Ground Zero". Maybe member Guha should seek out better spokesperson for whatever cause he is trying to sell. It seems Guha is stuck with hate-mongers, human right violators (Zionists) or some sort of addict (No other explanation for fictional piece).

Now on a serious note, I (Along with most people I know) are very concerned about law and order situation in Bangladesh. Maybe we should form a non-political forum to raise national issues (Such as better governance and protection for minorities). Those forum needs to work with all leading political parties and get their firm commitment to take measurable actions to solve national crisis.

Renting American "Rajakars" will not help anyone or help our country.

My two cents....


Shalom!




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Subject: [mukto-mona] Fw: How Bangladeshi Islamists stole a U.S. Congressional Hearing - a Madeline Brooks article

 
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Subject: How Bangladeshi Islamists stole a U.S. Congressional Hearing - a Madeline Brooks article

November 27, 2013

How Islamists Stole a Congressional Hearing

By Madeline Brooks
Oppressed Hindus from Bangladesh asked for a congressional committee hearing to make known their victimization by Islamists.  They got their hearing, but they were not given a chance to speak; instead, Islamists took over.

Not one Hindu was invited to be on the panel of speakers.  The Islamists trashed the only political movement in Bangladesh that offers some hope of secularism.

Evidence suggests that an American lobbying firm working for a Bangladeshi war criminal bought influence with the hearing.  The same day, the NY Times wrote a staggeringly pro-Islamist editorial, raising the question that perhaps they too were bought with lobbyist money.

On November 20, 2013, a group of loyal Hindu Bangladeshi American citizens were granted a long-awaited hearing by the U.S. House Foreign Affairs Committee.  The Hindus wanted to ask the U.S. to stay the hand of the religious extremists who are pushing their compatriots remaining in Bangladesh toward genocide, described more fully here.

Bangladesh is erroneously considered a moderate Muslim country by the State Department.  Hindus and other minorities -- Buddhists, Christians, animists, and atheists -- live in continuous anxiety, even terror.  Minorities have scant protection against Islamist depredations such as murder, rape, and burning of their houses and places of worship, as well as theft and discrimination in the Bangladeshi legal system.  Protection from the police is uncertain, since Bangladeshi police often either ignore minorities' complaints or are themselves the perpetrators.  This land, which was once solely inhabited by Hindus and Buddhists, now has a minority population of non-Muslims of only about nine percent.  Mass murders, forced conversions, and forced flight account for the drop in numbers.

Right now is an especially frightening time for Bangladeshi minorities, because elections will happen soon.  Historically, that has always meant heightened danger, with Muslim mobs attacking vulnerable minorities no matter what the outcome of the election might be. 

Two major forces vie for control of Bangladesh: secularists and Muslim fundamentalists.  The incumbent party, the Awami League, is nominally secularist and offers some hope for minorities.  Opposing it is the Bangladesh National Party, allied with a group called Jamaat-e-Islami, which wants to impose a totalitarian form of Islam on everyone in that country.  In the 1971 war of liberation, Jamaat was involved in war crimes against Bangladeshis, especially Hindus, who wanted freedom from Pakistan and Islamic fundamentalism.

The AL is currently conducting trials of the war criminals, which the BNP objects to on procedural grounds.  While some of AL's judicial practices may be questionable, at bottom, the BNP wants to spare their Jamaat affiliates from possible execution for their past deeds.  The AL views Jamaat as a potential disaster for democracy, much as we would if al-Qaeda were included in our elections, and is trying to keep Jamaat out of the electoral process.

Whatever its flaws might be, the AL is the only present-day bulwark against the Talibanization of Bangladesh. 

The contentious issue of the war crimes tribunals so dominated the House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing that the problem of spreading Islamism and the persecution of minorities received short shrift.  Although the BNP members did mention minorities in passing, not one Hindu or other minority was on the panel.  The drift of the BNP position was that by excluding Jamaat, there would -- somehow, mysteriously -- be disturbances which would destabilize the country and affect minorities, too.  BNP sidestepped the intolerance and disrespect for non-Muslims that is the root of the problem.  It was a bizarre and revolting reversal of justice.

altThe hearing appears to have been hijacked.  Hindu activists believe that a strong BNP lobby is operating in Washington.  It is already established that a major lobbying firm, Cassidy & Associates, represents war criminal Mir Abdul Qasim Ali (pictured left), who is held in custody in Bangladesh awaiting trial and possibly execution.  Ali was implicated in a wartime killing spree and is a major fundamentalist player.  He is a senior member of Jamaat who supports Wahhabist values, and he heads a Saudi-based bank that launders money for Jamaat and terrorists. 

altGregg Hartley (pictured right), vice chairman and CEO of Cassidy & Associates, has been conducting a publicity campaign in Europe and the U.S. to get Ali released from jail, according to his home-state newspaper, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.  Disclosures of lobbyist records show that Cassidy and Associates has received more than $500,000 in the past year from Ali and his very wealthy family. 

Hartley's battle to free Ali involves discrediting the purpose as well as the methods of the war crimes tribunals, thereby legitimizing Islamism and its abuses.  Hartley also lobbies for Pakistan and other Islamist clients, as stated on his firm's website. 

Apparently Hartley does not object to working for Islamists, even if they would limit his own freedom if they came to power in the U.S.

An inescapable question arises: was a paid campaign waged to discredit the war crimes tribunal at the Foreign Affairs hearing in order to spare Hartley's client?  Were Hindus kept off the panel so that they could not give evidence of the complete Islamist take over Bangladesh is facing, and of the persecution that minorities are suffering even now?  This is a very reasonable speculation, and an investigation of Cassidy's activities and finances is in order.

A similar question must be raised about the alarming editorial in the NY Times published on the same day.  The Times lays the blame for Bangladesh's growing instability solely on the AL and states that Jamaat should be legitimized by including it in the upcoming elections.

Remember that Germany voted the Nazis into power.  A similar fate could await this vulnerable country, already teetering on the brink of totalitarian Islam.  One has to wonder why the NY Times took such a disastrous editorial position. 

Madeline Brooks is a counter-jihad activist and writer, based in New York City.  She can be reached at mailto:ResistJi%20%20had@aol.com.









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Re: [mukto-mona] Angola Bans Islam, Destroys Mosques



Religious duties that are nuisances or violations of the rights of others should not be allowed. People who commit such nuisances and violations are necessarily backward, too brainwashed with nonsensical prescriptions of their religions, and callously indifferent/disrespectful to other people's discomfort/inconvenience. The right to religious duties should be allowed only when they are totally personal, if there is such a thing. Even when the wife wants to sleep, while the husband wants to open the door to heaven for himself by praying loudly to his God sitting in the common bedroom, the husband would be wrong, and his 'religious duty' should not be allowed.
 
Of course, serious crimes for propagating religion should be seriously punished. The question is who should give the punishment? A gang of criminals from another religious group, or civilized people who seek justice with no hatred? I am for the latter. It may be too frustrating to see that too many otherwise good people are not strong/serious enough in the work of removing hatred and injustice from the world, but I am totally convinced that one group of criminals taking revenge on another group of criminals would not improve the world.
  
Sukhamaya Bain
 
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From: ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Angola Bans Islam, Destroys Mosques

 
I agree with you in matters of principle. But where do you draw the line between the 'personal rights to religious duties' and the encroachment on 'human and citizenship rights' of others? 
When in Dhaka and elsewhere, blaring mega speakers wake up people at 4 o'clock in the morning with prayer calls, does that not violate 'human and citizenship rights' of others? When in the evenings, speakers from mosques blare out in mega decibels their interpretation of God's messages and stop students from concentrating on their work, does that not encroach on their rights? When the streets around a mosque in my village in England get clogged up two to three times a day for about half an hour at a time making us take a detour of about a mile, does that not encroach on our citizenship rights? The list of mutually exclusive rights is literally endless. 
So taking a stand on high moral ground may be an utopia, but that does not solve the practical problem. 

- A Rahman

From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Friday, 29 November 2013, 1:38
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Let me address some of the points made over the last couple of days by quite a few people in this forum.
 
I have no problem banning all religions. As I wrote before on this thread, I think Angola has done it wrong particularly because it banned only one religion.
 
While I can see that most religions, especially the ones that are based upon fearing what is known as God, have a lot of stupidity and hatred in them, I think the real problem is with people. If people had the mind of reasoning and thinking freely, the religious nonsense and hatred would be rendered irrelevant, people would naturally give up religions. The modern educated societies and nations are actually doing quite a bit of that. If we look around the developed world, it would be obvious that atheists and agnostics constitute an increasing percentage of the population. A lot of Christians in the developed countries do not try to follow the Bible as much as millions of Muslims try to follow the Koran, for example. Religion as a commodity is sold a lot more in uneducated and backward societies than in educated and advancing societies.
 
I think a methodical removal of religious nonsense, hatred and injustice is what needs to happen in this world. That process has to begin with separating religion from the state, and end with making it absolutely personal.
 
For example, I do not see any problem if someone thinks he can go to heaven by praying to the goddess Kali or to Allah. However, the civilized world should not tolerate anything like people thinking, and acting upon that thought, that they can go to heaven by killing themselves for the purpose of establishing their religion on Earth, for example.
 
Society/state should not meddle in other people's religion, only if religion is kept at an absolute personal level. When the practice of one's religion goes against other people's human and citizenship rights, the phrase of 'meddling in other people's religion' should be trashed; the society/state/world should do whatever is needed to stop such practices of religions. 
 
Well, that is all for now.
 
SuBain 
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[mukto-mona] DHAKA DAILY DISH (26th Issue, 29th Nov. Mr Serajur Rahman) [2 Attachments]

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To bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com
Today at 9:54 PM

Dear All

Pl take my Salam.

Mr Serajur Rahman, former Chief of Bengli Service in BBC
usually writes once a fortnight.  We used to wait eagerly
to get his new write up - to get his thoughtful opinions on
country condition.  As it is detoriorating at a faster alarming
rate, he had to accelerate his writing.  After 24th Nov, it is
his 3rd issue today at this column.  Thanks.   

'ঝাঁপ দিলি তুই মরণ যমুনায়'
সি রা জু    মা   Amar Desh, Post Editorial, 29th Nov '13

Haque

Pl Note :
এবার আওয়ামী লীগের টিকিট বাদ পড়েছেন পদ্মা সেতুর দুর্নীতির সঙ্গে জড়িত বিতর্কিত সৈয়দ আবুল হোসেন As appeared in today's newspapers in Bangladesh.
It is surprising, because this Abul was strongly defended by Honb'le PM - as a most patriotic person of the country. Alas, he did not get AL nomination !
 


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